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@<a href="https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=34329" target="_blank">Frinckles</a>
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Does it not bother anyone else that blinkskater is essentially telling Mesk to have the same reads as him in order to be town-read? To me it reads as blinkskater trying to persuade Mesk, who is known to be a 'loud' player in game, to vote his way for town credit. Nobody else seemed to find this weird either.
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Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I'm not sure why, but blinkskater seems to be avoiding heavy opinions on Mesk one way or the other. You'll never get a correct read on Mesk if you say "mafia and town can make this post". Scum-reading blink right now, don't think Mesk is with him right now but it is a possibility.
This makes me feel pretty good on Unknown. It seems to be a push at me coming from a town mindset. It's nothing piggy backed off another player it's an original thought, a thought alone to warrant a scum read on myself with legit valid reasoning.
I have been unwilling to make a stance on mesk at the time because I was saying that I didn't take what she's said as AI from her as a player. What mesk said early on I could see her saying as either alignment so I didn't have any type of read on here to lean either way. I didn't want to slot her untill I was more sure of her alignment. I see the flaw in my post now, I essentially unbeknownst to me gave her a way into my town reads, kind of like I left in a hurry and forgot to lock my door type of thing. I was not trying to persuade her to do anything (=
And the fact you don't see us as a team because I was hesitant to slot her each way seems to be coming from a town mindset so right on.
October 17th, 2019, 12:30 PM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Firstly to the Mag thing again, i must of misread then, i dont tend to read slowly when we have a lot of pages, quick skim read to gauge whats happening and ya know sometimes ya get messed up like that. As for the rest of the old Gameoid I will need to look over the game and gauge some greater reads as time goes on, a lot of my reads so far are pretty base line but ya know ill try.
To DS i call anybody a Geezer dont need to be old fam.
October 17th, 2019, 12:30 PM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I would like to urge everyone who hasn't spit out a Cvote yet to please do so ASAP because there are many many people who havn't voted.
October 17th, 2019, 12:31 PM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
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Originally Posted by blinkskater
No I'm scum reading you for straight up discrediting my suggestion right off the back, no discussion with me no nothing. Just a mono tone pair of discredits. Never once did I say I scum read you for saying you didn't like my system lol. Keep trying to toss the red paint mate.
Who says that you're "right" about the practicality of the system? What all knowing power came in and said frinckles is right? are you serious dude? You're terribly scummy for reasons I have stated, not the reasons that you make up lol.
I will gladly thunderdome you today because I believe you have a very high chance of flipping scum. I didn't double down on shit prove it .
My thought process isn't that complicated and it's similar to why I have Magoroth as my second FOS.
He says some shit about vigilante, what do you do if you're cop? Check him? Waste a night? What if he's scum? He flies under the radar.
The suggestion was alarming to me because besides the fact that it'd be an easy way for scum to fly under the radar; I didn't agree with your implementation of it and I didn't understand the rationale for needing it.
This wasn't scum-painting, this is pointing out something that from my point of view was inherently anti-town. If you don't believe so, fine -- np.
Unknown was just using the system in an efficient way, take a look. Practicality doesn't equal better or best. You're jumping the shark on that one.
October 17th, 2019, 12:31 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
If you're playing mafia to "be nice" you may want to find a different game to play.
I fucking despise you
/s
October 17th, 2019, 12:32 PM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I have to go in.. approximatively right now but going to post a little bit.
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Originally Posted by Clank
Greetings Comrades!:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clank
We must be nicer!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clank
Lynching is bad for the soul.
Welcome! Do you have any Mafia experience?
And don't you worry, lynching is good for the soul when you lynch things that are bad for the soul. :)
October 17th, 2019, 12:33 PM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frinckles
My thought process isn't that complicated and it's similar to why I have Magoroth as my second FOS.
He says some shit about vigilante, what do you do if you're cop? Check him? Waste a night? What if he's scum? He flies under the radar.
The suggestion was alarming to me because besides the fact that it'd be an easy way for scum to fly under the radar; I didn't agree with your implementation of it and I didn't understand the rationale for needing it.
This wasn't scum-painting, this is pointing out something that from my point of view was inherently anti-town. If you don't believe so, fine -- np.
Unknown was just using the system in an efficient way, take a look. Practicality doesn't equal better or best. You're jumping the shark on that one.
I will gladly let you have the last word I'm not spiraling the thread into my set of replies, then your set of replies.
To me you're scum that probally wont change until I see you flip sorry bud.
October 17th, 2019, 12:34 PM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
@Frinckles
anymore back and forth between you and I will just flood the thread, you've said yours and I've said mine we'll let everyone evaluate us, and If you want to thunder dome I will willingly oblige.
Sure, we can chill for now while a few others hop on but don't expect me to ignore you for the rest of the day if something pops up.
I expect the same in return.
October 17th, 2019, 12:35 PM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
I'm not sure why, but blinkskater seems to be avoiding heavy opinions on Mesk one way or the other. You'll never get a correct read on Mesk if you say "mafia and town can make this post". Scum-reading blink right now, don't think Mesk is with him right now but it is a possibility.
Blink doesn't avoid his scummates. But you are right that he's weirdly hedging on her... I still townread him though, because he's not used to playing with Mesk for now :P she can be confusing to read at times with the "I'M ALWAYS TOOOOWN" meta, and he relies a lot of meta.
And yes, I just defended Blink... can y'all watch him please? :D
Going off now.
October 17th, 2019, 12:36 PM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Didn't see your reply a while ago, sorry.
I don't much care for the last word, I have the power of OneNote :O
Aite so I do like this response from SB16 a little bit. Sometimes I take for granted the players on this site for not really playing on other sites. EOD on day one elsewhere usually consists of the top 2 trains at the time making there cases as to why they are town. Generally everyone else in game at that time usually has to join one of the trains and give reason as to why. Yes sometimes players generally feel good about both players and are at a crossroads and can vote elsewhere, if the reasoning is good enough IMO that's fine, but scum generally have a harder time coming up with plausible reasoning.
So stealth YES on other sights lynches can be cleanly controlled in FM games when the game is full of good + active players. When people actually take this game seriously most players make it an obligation to at least be there around EOD to at least cast a vote. I merely offered a way to make this "bird bot voting" a little bit more honed in.
So if you're actually scum reading me because I offered an idea which you say is trying to "limit" the lynch then that's fine because my intent here is to make the EOD lynch more like other sites, where IMO is a bit better then on this site.
Last minute lynch changes EOD rarely yield scum flips, most of the time last minute changes flip town. So the two most scum read players EOD are still being lynched, I just proposed a unique scenario which I think would allow the information tree to bear more fruit.
I
Alright, I suppose this makes sense. I do disagree with the spirit of this still- it goes against the benefits of bird voting. I’ll move you out of my upper bird box when I update it.
I’ll take this moment to address the fact that I may not be here at EoD.
October 17th, 2019, 12:38 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
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Originally Posted by Mesk514
yeah, thats slightly unfair as again, pree sure he's new. I mean, look at Efe, he never really does anything anyways... people give him a pass based on meta and whatever just cause you know him... shrugs
of course I want you to alter your thoughts, i know i dont belong up there, i suspect at least clank as well doesn't belong there, so your list is looking a little off...
In regards to clank, assuming he's new, you have to understand new players will sometimes have a hard time joining the conversation. especially when theres an overwelming amount of content already.
I second this. Why are y’all shitting on clank/ds and giving efe and light a free pass
October 17th, 2019, 12:44 PM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
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Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
I second this. Why are y’all shitting on clank/ds and giving efe and light a free pass
well DS hasn't been shit on by any birds, clank I think has been scummy with the little bit he''s posted.
efe and yagami get a free pass from me because of meta, I explained it somewhere.
October 17th, 2019, 12:44 PM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
I will discuss mag with you frinckles.
I believe he was shit posting, it was during the honorary "shitposting" phase If you can't figure that out that ones on you lol
hey, he wanted a reaction. he got one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Thunderdome?
ThunderNote
October 17th, 2019, 12:47 PM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Efe, Clank, Yagami, Unknown, DS all need to drop a cvote.
we can just policy lynch everyone who doesn't want to share their votes, if scum wins so be it.
October 17th, 2019, 12:48 PM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
Efe, Clank, Yagami, Unknown, DS all need to drop a cvote.
we can just policy lynch everyone who doesn't want to share their votes, if scum wins so be it.
I don't see a reason to scum read him then for posting something to fish out a reaction during day 1. He was open that he wasn't vigi shortly after.
NoNo it's ThunderDOME
October 17th, 2019, 12:51 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
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Originally Posted by Magoroth
if you actually knew efe at all you'd know this to be false. efe's one of the best when it comes to reading people, even though he rarely acts on his reads.
Thanks for the random compliment its all partially true but right now I seriously want him dead because of that ugly profile picture
October 17th, 2019, 12:51 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
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Originally Posted by Huey The Long
To Blink who asked about my take on Mag. I may of misread and please say if i did however Mag said he was against Discord, that Discord and the creation of Discord was a scummy move and then he went ahead and started doing such, flinging shit in every which way and also his claim which firstly caused a lot of hoohah and secondly is a very strange move to undertake on the first day.
I welcome DS to the game and hope the geezer shall bring a lot to the table. Also Efe whats wrong with me >:C
Everything probably idk
October 17th, 2019, 12:52 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
@Magoroth
pick a topic
1. Unknown + Blink
2. Blink vs Frinckles
3. Mesk in relation to anybody
I want your input on something. Write your thoughts on whatever you think you can best speak on. Extra credit if you write in full AEC/SAR format
October 17th, 2019, 12:52 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
@Clank
Where Is Ratchet? Just Wondering.. Everything Seems Fuzzy This Morning..
Because, I In General Dont Trust His.. If I Was Scum Id Contribute More.
October 17th, 2019, 12:55 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
well DS hasn't been shit on by any birds, clank I think has been scummy with the little bit he''s posted.
efe and yagami get a free pass from me because of meta, I explained it somewhere.
Stop this meta shit. Either one of these two people, particularly efe, is absolutely capable of playing to their town meta. They are experienced FM players by this point. Yagami has probably been in more FMs than I have. If you are only reading them on meta then you should have them lower.
October 17th, 2019, 12:56 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Because, I In General Dont Trust His.. If I Was Scum Id Contribute More.
“If i were scum I’d play the game” huh
October 17th, 2019, 12:57 PM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
“If i were scum I’d play the game” huh
In Lay Mans Terms I Dont Trust Him..
October 17th, 2019, 12:58 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Btw How To CVote?
October 17th, 2019, 12:59 PM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Stop this meta shit. Either one of these two people, particularly efe, is absolutely capable of playing to their town meta. They are experienced FM players by this point. Yagami has probably been in more FMs than I have. If you are only reading them on meta then you should have them lower.
I disagree with this 100% and I will not stop meta reading them sorry.
October 17th, 2019, 12:59 PM
Frinckles
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
I don't see a reason to scum read him then for posting something to fish out a reaction during day 1. He was open that he wasn't vigi shortly after.
NoNo it's ThunderDOME
I can certainly scum-read him for it. Mechanical implications do exist and I don't believe he retracted it until.. what, an hour ago?
Honestly though, I actually didn't fos Magoroth much prior to that. I even pointed out that I think he was just stirring the pot but as I thought about the more -- I realized how much of a handicap it could be to the town.
Can you find a quote for me that best signifies this in your eyes?
One Moment As I Process This Request..
October 17th, 2019, 01:02 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Stop this meta shit. Either one of these two people, particularly efe, is absolutely capable of playing to their town meta. They are experienced FM players by this point. Yagami has probably been in more FMs than I have. If you are only reading them on meta then you should have them lower.
Thanks for the random compliment
October 17th, 2019, 01:03 PM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mesk514
juicy content doesnt really come from me unless im scum. town mesk herpaderps and prays for the best
I can certainly scum-read him for it. Mechanical implications do exist and I don't believe he retracted it until.. what, an hour ago?
Honestly though, I actually didn't fos Magoroth much prior to that. I even pointed out that I think he was just stirring the pot but as I thought about the more -- I realized how much of a handicap it could be to the town.
All who are under the Skipday Divider are people I dont want them to die
Efe You Realize You Put Your Self As Your Top Scum Read Right?
October 17th, 2019, 01:21 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
LOL I CAN ALSO SEE WHAT OTHERS VOTE ABOUT ME
IM GONNA DESTROY YOU ALL
OLD EFEKANNN02 MODE ENGAGE
IM CITIZEN SUPER MARIO AND I WILL LYNCH YOU ALL
October 17th, 2019, 01:22 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
This calculator will edit votes to set themselves as last priority. even if you try to submit yourself as #1.
this is because there's no self voting in this setup according to naz.
October 17th, 2019, 01:22 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Efe You Realize You Put Your Self As Your Top Scum Read Right?
Its Not A Scumread Its A Condoctorate Voting And I Literally Want To Die
(somehow this comfirms me as town and I dont like any of the looks of this)
October 17th, 2019, 01:22 PM
Unknown1234
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Spoiler : cvote :
blinkskater,rumox,Frinckles,Marshmallow Marshall,Efekannn02,Mesk514,DS,Magoroth,Clank,Ligh t_Yagami,Huey The Long,Stealthbomber16
If I did this wrong let me know, it's my first time doing one lol.
@Stealthbomber16
did you ever answer me about my thoughts on your read off of Efekannn02 being very inconsistent between votes? If not could you please do so.
@blinkskater
I saw your posts, I have to go out soon but if I have time before I leave I will address your comments towards me.
October 17th, 2019, 01:23 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voss
This calculator will edit votes to set themselves as last priority. even if you try to submit yourself as #1.
this is because there's no self voting in this setup according to naz.
You're cruel
Can I still vote myself above Skipday though?
October 17th, 2019, 01:24 PM
Marshmallow Marshall
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by blinkskater
well DS hasn't been shit on by any birds, clank I think has been scummy with the little bit he''s posted.
efe and yagami get a free pass from me because of meta, I explained it somewhere.
I assume DS replaced Clank?
Also, I stay for more or less an hour now :P
October 17th, 2019, 01:24 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Tbh I Should Have Pudding Stealth Over Mesk Because Stealth Is Nicer Right Now And I No Want Him To DIE! AHAHA... wait where were we?
October 17th, 2019, 01:24 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Efekannn02
You're cruel
Can I still vote myself above Skipday though?
no
October 17th, 2019, 01:25 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voss
no
I want you and naz lynched
October 17th, 2019, 01:26 PM
Voss
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Spoiler : cvote :
blinkskater,rumox,Frinckles,Marshmallow Marshall,Efekannn02,Mesk514,DS,Magoroth,Clank,Ligh t_Yagami,Huey The Long,Stealthbomber16
If I did this wrong let me know, it's my first time doing one lol.
@Stealthbomber16
did you ever answer me about my thoughts on your read off of Efekannn02 being very inconsistent between votes? If not could you please do so.
@blinkskater
I saw your posts, I have to go out soon but if I have time before I leave I will address your comments towards me.
looks good.
October 17th, 2019, 01:27 PM
Efekannn02
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
I want to find a loophole in the system which will sadly then get fixed...
I think I skipped a step, this might be better lol
October 17th, 2019, 01:28 PM
blinkskater
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Spoiler : cvote :
blinkskater,rumox,Frinckles,Marshmallow Marshall,Efekannn02,Mesk514,DS,Magoroth,Clank,Ligh t_Yagami,Huey The Long,Stealthbomber16
If I did this wrong let me know, it's my first time doing one lol.
@Stealthbomber16
did you ever answer me about my thoughts on your read off of Efekannn02 being very inconsistent between votes? If not could you please do so.
@blinkskater
I saw your posts, I have to go out soon but if I have time before I leave I will address your comments towards me.
How is someone who's posted literally once the top town read player?
How am I not the top town read player? ^.^
October 17th, 2019, 01:44 PM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Im gonna be here for like 15 mins and then i wont be here till tomos btw dudes and gals
October 17th, 2019, 01:44 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown1234
Spoiler : cvote :
blinkskater,rumox,Frinckles,Marshmallow Marshall,Efekannn02,Mesk514,DS,Magoroth,Clank,Ligh t_Yagami,Huey The Long,Stealthbomber16
If I did this wrong let me know, it's my first time doing one lol.
@Stealthbomber16
did you ever answer me about my thoughts on your read off of Efekannn02 being very inconsistent between votes? If not could you please do so.
@blinkskater
I saw your posts, I have to go out soon but if I have time before I leave I will address your comments towards me.
I don’t think I did and I don’t think it was intentional? Probably just forgot to move efe. I submitted my first bird vote on pc and obviously it doesn’t remember my pc bird vote on my phone where I’ve been posting since. In any case I will stand by it because rather than efe moving up, everyone else has just been moving down and he looks scummy by comparison.
October 17th, 2019, 01:44 PM
Stealthbomber16
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huey The Long
Im gonna be here for like 15 mins and then i wont be here till tomos btw dudes and gals
Holy shit is that Ryan Higa? I think I remember this video lol it was right around the time that one movie came out about brain power that hard Morgan freeman in it
October 17th, 2019, 01:50 PM
Huey The Long
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
What are your thoughts
On the game so far? It seems pretty chill at the moment after all the Magoroth stuff happened, Mag has said some stuff since then that has made me adjust my position of him, same with Unknown, unknown was originally p high on my list but he has fallen right down since he has said stuff. I dont know what to think about Efe or Mesk, i think Mesk has gone up in my scum ratings, Light is still pretty high on my scum ratings but i might knock em down for meta reasons (they haven't said much explicitly scummy but they are doing actions that are in line with normal meta but are generally scummy like being anti day 1 lynch).
DS needs to contribute more before i move him about really, I wanna go through some people and maybe ISO them tommorow, Frinckles being one of them because i have them pretty towny rn but not for any major reason other then my skim reading, i need to proper go through the posts of theres. Rumox is still on my scum list for some earlier comments and Blink and yourself are still in my town zone. I need to update my Votes but ill do it tomos after ive gone done some more looking, searching and maybe an Iso or 2.
October 17th, 2019, 01:50 PM
Light_Yagami
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stealthbomber16
Holy shit is that Ryan Higa? I think I remember this video lol it was right around the time that one movie came out about brain power that hard Morgan freeman in it
Its Keanu Reeves In Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure/Bogus Journey
October 17th, 2019, 01:52 PM
DS.
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Contributions will be contributed once I can reasonably remember who is saying what. I want to say that the shaggy guy is town on tone, but I've only read like 3 pages so far
October 17th, 2019, 01:52 PM
DS.
Re: S-FM 288: La Cosa Nostra
Quote:
Originally Posted by Light_Yagami
Its Keanu Reeves In Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure/Bogus Journey