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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
How do we change that?? Start a toxic shitfest by tunneling?!?!? OwO
i'm tunneled on frinck OWO
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
How do we change that?? Start a toxic shitfest by tunneling?!?!? OwO
YES
NOW VOTE PRINGLES
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
Overly serious at the start of the game? Scum.
-vote theoneceko
You want less serious discussion? -vote Ganelon
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
Please may I ask that people only post if it has valid content. Spamming or out of game context is hard work and I've got an I'll child atm. So I don't want to waste my time scrolling through pages of civ6 or symbol spams.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
You want less serious discussion?
-vote Ganelon
At the start of the game being overly serious is indicative of try-hard scum. Scum are very self conscious and do not know how much trolling is ‘too much’ so they try to avoid trolling as much as they can. Newb scum do this by trying too hard.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
..i don't like this
why not solve the game with us?
No, that is a town post.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
aamirus
You know, in the signup thread gyrlander said we were gonna go with path 1.5 and I thought that was a legit setup change and checked, got really confused, then finally realized he was talking about the game start time
Does that mean you got scum and were hoping to get a new role in a different setup?? :P
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
aamirus
shit can we lynch stealth for shits and giggles?
yes, down with the reptilian overlords
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
At the start of the game being overly serious is indicative of try-hard scum. Scum are very self conscious and do not know how much trolling is ‘too much’ so they try to avoid trolling as much as they can. Newb scum do this by trying too hard.
I doubt your theory. I find that scum tend to avoid initiating serious discussion. The longer the troll last the more benefit for the scum.
Starting a serious discussion is not a scummy. Complaining about it certainly is though.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
People who need to do shit:
@Varcron
your posts are fluff. 2 post and you deliver 0. So I have a question for you, which player do you think you will struggle reading the most?
I think I will struggle reading Frinckles. I haven't had much interaction with them and since they are a developer I feel as if there is a lot about them and how they play that I don't know about.
@Frinkles &
@Renegade
need to wake up.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
My thoughts on the past 5 hours. All those who have posted during that time are confirmed town.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
renegade was reading the thread then left? smh
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
People who need to do shit:
@
Varcron
your posts are fluff. 2 post and you deliver 0. So I have a question for you, which player do you think you will struggle reading the most?
I think I will struggle reading Frinckles. I haven't had much interaction with them and since they are a developer I feel as if there is a lot about them and how they play that I don't know about.
@Frinkles &
@
Renegade
need to wake up.
I'm here give me some time to catch up THANKS
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
naz
renegade was reading the thread then left? smh
OMG I know I'm popular but damn!
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
naz
renegade was reading the thread then left? smh
That's just as helpful as you posting that.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
So far treko is leaning town to me since they are engaged and not trying to coast the whole game (though he deserved the win the last game cuz town let him do that but w/e) but maybe he rolled a goonie and realized that strat can't work again, not sure, but I'm thinking geko is town ATM.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
As some others have pointed out, the nature of the setup dictates that more information will be gained by votes rather than other means.
This makes these goofy troll votes very unhelpful and a distraction. Ugh
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
As some others have pointed out, the nature of the setup dictates that more information will be gained by votes rather than other means.
This makes these goofy troll votes very unhelpful and a distraction. Ugh
Theres nothing goofy or troll about my vote.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
That's just as helpful as you posting that.
well if he didn't come back it would have let people know he was lurking :3
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
So far treko is leaning town to me since they are engaged and not trying to coast the whole game (though he deserved the win the last game cuz town let him do that but w/e) but maybe he rolled a goonie and realized that strat can't work again, not sure, but I'm thinking geko is town ATM.
who is treko and who is geko?
& same my vote isn't goofy or troll
i'd lynch frinckles
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
Does that mean you got scum and were hoping to get a new role in a different setup?? :P
Yes
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
Fine then let’s begin
-vote Frinckles
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
Please may I ask that people only post if it has valid content. Spamming or out of game context is hard work and I've got an I'll child atm. So I don't want to waste my time scrolling through pages of civ6 or symbol spams.
Roger chief. This is one of the few places where I'll refrain from shitposting.
Sincerely,
UwU ceko. OWO
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
Roger chief. This is one of the few places where I'll refrain from shitposting.
Sincerely,
UwU ceko. OWO
Don’t be serious or ganelon will suspect you. Don’t be a troll or SuperJack will suspect you. These are trying times to be a scum
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
I wont unvote Pringles until I get a claim outta him
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
For my own edification and to understand the save, I ran the probabilities of random lynches every day and this is in fact set up to be a 50% chance win for either side with random lynches.
Now of course, that is probably not the best approach as we can gather much more information to inform our lynch decisions so they are not random, especially basing it off of the d1 voting patterns. I wonder if there is some kind of bayesian statistics we could apply here... hmmmmmmmm
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
people always bring up the win percentage of random voting and I wonder, how would you accomplish random voting anyway? Wouldn’t you have to take into account the percent chance the person who is chosen to pick the random targets is a scum?
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
I'm not suggesting it by any means at all. I'm just saying it we were to take all the names and drop it into R or something and produce all possible lynch orders and select one at random, there is a 50/50 shot the list of players (player 1, player 2, ...., player 10) would end up in a win for either side.
Now of course this game can't go past day 5 from what I gather, in fact the game could end by EOD2 with two goonie lynches in a row. All I'm saying is it points to a balanced setup and I found it interesting enough to share.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
aamirus
Yes
gettem bois can’t get more straightforward than this -vote aamirus
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves
This is what I'm saying about the GOOFY troll votes obfuscating things for us.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
SuperJack
I doubt your theory. I find that scum tend to avoid initiating serious discussion. The longer the troll last the more benefit for the scum.
Starting a serious discussion is not a scummy. Complaining about it certainly is though.
That depends on the scum. Good scum will mimic town behavior and act moderately trolly or moderately serious depending on the circumstances. Being overly serious at the start of the game is bad.
-vote theoneceko
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
This is what I'm saying about the GOOFY troll votes obfuscating things for us.
Yeah, I’m not following an activity policy lynch, especially not on Frinckles. Efe ain’t in the game, either, so let’s not policy lynch anyone, please
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
At the start of the game being overly serious is indicative of try-hard scum. Scum are very self conscious and do not know how much trolling is ‘too much’ so they try to avoid trolling as much as they can. Newb scum do this by trying too hard.
Last game I was scum, and I barely posted because I didn't want to appear scummy. How can I change my playstyle so drastically from last game? As you said, I'm a "newb."
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Btw this goes without saying. Do not, even for a second think that scum wouldn’t bus in this setuo. The benefits of bussing in this setup are of truly monumental proportion. According to, I believe, the MafiaScum website, scum LOVE the hardbus in this setup.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
No, that is a town post.
My post is town or NozBug's posts??
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
Last game I was scum, and I barely posted because I didn't want to appear scummy. How can I change my playstyle so drastically from last game? As you said, I'm a "newb."
You barely posted, but you were serious the entire time that you were in the game. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
theoneceko
My post is town or NozBug's posts??
Noz’s
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
Does that mean you got scum and were hoping to get a new role in a different setup?? :P
Or she got town and wanted to be scum?
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
I'm here give me some time to catch up THANKS
Your avatarchagngedUWU
Also, welcUM, uVu
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
aamirus
Don’t be serious or ganelon will suspect you. Don’t be a troll or SuperJack will suspect you. These are trying times to be a scum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyEBeHvNJvE
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
why are 3 people voting a guy who hasn’t even posted? In all likelihood he didn’t know the game had started... besides, if he’s actually NOT HERE, he will be replaced by one of our 10,000,000 reserves
he had to confirm the PM, so he knew the game was starting. he was whining for game to start and now its here WOW but he has time to play other games than come check in. he's a threat as scum. it's not a troll vote, it's day 1 and someones gotta go. it's not an activity policy lynch lmao i'm just game to lynch him for benefit of town
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
Man hasn’t posted. He is AFK, what does his lynch tell us? Nothing.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
If he is genuinely AFK he will be replaced, if not, he’ll come and interact with us. Since when is Frinckles scum meta to AFK?
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Renegade
For my own edification and to understand the save, I ran the probabilities of random lynches every day and this is in fact set up to be a 50% chance win for either side with random lynches.
Now of course, that is probably not the best approach as we can gather much more information to inform our lynch decisions so they are not random, especially basing it off of the d1 voting patterns. I wonder if there is some kind of bayesian statistics we could apply here... hmmmmmmmm
If town has natural advantage over scum, then you can bump town's % of winning even higher.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
No. This setup is deceptive. Scum wins this setup a lot more often than you’d expect based on random lynching. Do not rely on statistics.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
Yeah, I’m not following an activity policy lynch, especially not on Frinckles. Efe ain’t in the game, either, so let’s not policy lynch anyone, please
I'm not policy lynching him. He's scum. I'm the host role. I know this.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
Man hasn’t posted. He is AFK, what does his lynch tell us? Nothing.
Why you defending him so hard? Let him come defend himself
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
Overly serious at the start of the game? Scum.
-vote theoneceko
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Originally Posted by
Ganelon
That depends on the scum. Good scum will mimic town behavior and act moderately trolly or moderately serious depending on the circumstances. Being overly serious at the start of the game is bad.
-vote theoneceko
You vote me twice and don't unvote in between. How badly do you want me dead?
I know this is my third FM. However, in the first game, I was the only town (besides Light, but he was an investigative role) that tried to lynch a scum who was pocketing everyone. In the second, I barely lost as neutral killing because the neutral benign sided with town.
Perhaps you don't see me as "newb," but as a competent townie you want dead ASAP.
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Re: S-FM 300: Black Flag Nightless [LADDER] GAME THREAD
I’m defending him because you guys are about to lynch a lurker lol. That’s a random lynch. No way I’m lynching someone who can’t defend themselves.