Night 3 Discussion

[fm Suicidaln00b]

Shall we begin?

[fm Fred]

This game is fucking pissing me off, oops is a giant douchebag and nothing is going according to plan. I am going to try and start a train on Crimson tomorrow since he went against the Elixir lynch.

[fm Suicidaln00b]

It is quite aggravating, but I think we found the arsonist. >:) ganondorf

[fm TheJackofSpades]

As you got ready to shoot Narks, you reached into your pocket and discovered a horrible truth. You Gun was Stolen! You were unable to kill Narks without it.

You make a personal note to pick up another gun from the mafias stash when you get back
so thief knows what i am and yes, ganondorf never mentioned note.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

And with the modkill replacements we have bigger problems.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

oh and by the way, feel free to edit and add what you know.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?pli=1&key=0AhcY65fUF_qddEZYaWN0NkFYQ0podDhTWFZQeE80ZkE#g id=0

[fm Fred]

If thief knows what you are should we send suicidal to do the killing? I don't want to have another kill stolen from us again. As for kill targets I am thinking of cptkirk right now. Capatalier can't be sheriff given we didn't frame Narks

[fm TheJackofSpades]

If thief knows what you are should we send suicidal to do the killing? I don't want to have another kill stolen from us again. As for kill targets I am thinking of cptkirk right now. Capatalier can't be sheriff given we didn't frame Narks

Suicidal can't kill unless he is level 2, aka my death occurs. I figure either Ambient, or rumple is thief since they constantly VOTE me without reason or cause. I am so pissed narks didn't die, and what the fuck are the other killers doing? masturbating?

[fm Suicidaln00b]

Suicidal can't kill unless he is level 2, aka my death occurs. I figure either Ambient, or rumple is thief since they constantly VOTE me without reason or cause. I am so pissed narks didn't die, and what the fuck are the other killers doing? masturbating?

Correct. And yeah idk...it's so lame having them hide and not kill anyone..I mean really..1kpn is really lame

[fm Fred]

I still think we are owed one extra mafia, given we got two mafias modkilled and only one back

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Correct. And yeah idk...it's so lame having them hide and not kill anyone..I mean really..1kpn is really lame
we could've had 2 kpn if elixir used the gun instead of waiting, bad move. :/
If narks was dead this day would've gone better. Luna is ML, I believe.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

I still think we are owed one extra mafia, given we got two mafias modkilled and only one back

2 of which are out to KILL US, sumi is VERY DANGEROUS, northstar too. FUCK!

[fm Suicidaln00b]

Ok and as it turns out if the arsonist can undouse someone if they do not douse anyone that night.
Here is what Yayap said.


Quote Originally Posted by fm Suicidaln00b
So I'm guessing the arsonist will ignite ALL doused people whenever he triggers the detonator?
Not just individuals at will?

ALL, the arsonist can however choose to undouse whoever he wants and as many as he wants by not dousing at night.

So i mentioned this to the public so ganondorf could see it and possibly undouse me tonight. however he has no one else doused and we did not give him any new targets to douse tonight. So he might undouse me or douse someone else. But I think we can pretty much sum up that he is the arson, otherwise I would be dead by now.

And yes, they are starting to suspect us. But we might be able to throw some more mud around and dirty the waters.

[fm Suicidaln00b]

Also I did not get a Night 2 PM. So i'm assuming nothing important happened to me..
Anyone else?

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Ok and as it turns out if the arsonist can undouse someone if they do not douse anyone that night.
Here is what Yayap said.

So i mentioned this to the public so ganondorf could see it and possibly undouse me tonight. however he has no one else doused and we did not give him any new targets to douse tonight. So he might undouse me or douse someone else. But I think we can pretty much sum up that he is the arson, otherwise I would be dead by now.
And yes, they are starting to suspect us. But we might be able to throw some more mud around and dirty the waters.
yeah we have to, we need to get sumi to be silenced a whole day, and silence someone else.
get zack,nick, and cpt kirk to fight.

[fm Lysergic]

Good Kill/Silence Targets: Rumpel, CptKirk, Nick
We will use Boots to perform the kill, because GF cannot do it, Jack is going to get stolen from, and Fred is going to get blocked.
We need to use the silencing drug on someone. We can't make it too obvious, so its best to use it on someone who is already cleared of being town.

I think Yayap was the stupid blacksmith that gave stuff to Elixir for no reason.

As for now, I think Rumpel knows something he shouldn't and is the best kill target. He could possibly be the thief that is fucking with all our actions.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Good Kill/Silence Targets: Rumpel, CptKirk, Nick
We will use Boots to perform the kill, because GF cannot do it, Jack is going to get stolen from, and Fred is going to get blocked.
We need to use the silencing drug on someone. We can't make it too obvious, so its best to use it on someone who is already cleared of being town.

I think Yayap was the stupid blacksmith that gave stuff to Elixir for no reason.

As for now, I think Rumpel knows something he shouldn't and is the best kill target. He could possibly be the thief that is fucking with all our actions.

KILL RUMPLE

[fm Kromos]

I'd let nick be considering most of town thinks he is scum as it is.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

I'd let nick be considering most of town thinks he is scum as it is.

same with cptkirk and another Gore?

[fm Lysergic]

Or we could kill Gore and clear Kromos? Either works just fine.

[fm Kromos]

I am already pretty much cleared.... I'd be more worried about yourself because if that escort keeps talking about the baseball note you will be found out...

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Or we could kill Gore and clear Kromos? Either works just fine.

Rumple and ambient are on my cock, we need to get rid of them fast but not in a way that makes people look back at their notes to suspect me, and who said that we can't get rid of last wills now? lol I can delete the last wills.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Rumple and ambient are on my cock, we need to get rid of them fast but not in a way that makes people look back at their notes to suspect me, and who said that we can't get rid of last wills now? lol I can delete the last wills.

Which in return makes the doctor be a corner instead of healing ;)
by the way we need to kill the thief and get another gun.

[fm BlastYoBoots]

Nothing of note for me or dimwit, no pms at all.

[fm Lysergic]

Nothing of note for me or dimwit, no pms at all.
It's not looking good for you Goon, its looking like another loss to taint your record...

WILL GOON EVER WIN A GAME OF FORUM MAFIA?

[fm Landstander]

Guess who's back from the dead, bitches.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

The only thing we can do is do something CRAZY something unexpected. with only 6 deaths we have 42 people left. 34/42 are "town" And with only 1 kpn since we no longer have elixirs extra gun we are screwed. We need to take out the power talkers first. and silence anyone who has tarnished my name. Not to mention I need to start "helping" the town. ONLY PROBLEM IS! Until the thief who took my gun is dead, I am FUCKED. Only thing is I need to make sure to be #5 on the town lynch list. as of current I always 2 votes on the lynch train. I just have to get rid of those 2.
My kill list: Rumple, Ambient, Sumi. technically "in" that order. If ganondorf is ACTUALLY arsonist we are in luck. We just need to partner with him and douse 2 win, They expect us to attack the masons, that would be super stupid, or attack nick, zack, or herr. They do not have enough protection for them all so we pick off "weaker town" like my top 3. Then we need to roleclaim AS NEEDED. Lysergic SHOULD be in the clear, Suicidal seems to be #2 on the lynch list, and if we get the arson to use bm to start a lynch train on "zack" or another "not so innocent role" the mafia can live as 6 another night/day.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Guess who's back from the dead, bitches.

THANK GOD!!!
We NEED to use your talents ;)
Now more then ever.

[fm Landstander]

Do we know if Narks had invul/vest (not BS) or if he was healed?

Oops has to die. He was right about me (Elixir) which means there's credibility in his accusation of Lysergic and Suicidal.

And at this point, are we to assume that the Traitor is dead? We've well established that we're fine with him being back-up GF, as suicidal is going to die at some point; I wouldn't be surprised if he was shot at tonight. So if you're here, anywhere, there's no issue with you, just let us know who you are so we can plan for it.

And before you give me shit for my defense yesterday, I really was at my GFs house on my phone, so I wasn't able to mount a proper defense, and with the speed at which votes were piling, I had to say something; and I was hammered before I even mounted my actual defense with doctored PMs and such; too bad I missed that FAQ question, so that was my fault, but it didn't matter anyways.

It was a very aggravating situation, so I should appologize for having somewhat of a public-day meltdown; but it was a gamble lynch that they got lucky on, so I'm out for fucking blood now. No hard feelings to anyone of you that voted me; it had to be done and it should help that you guys were some of the first to vote (not that it helped the train any, but whatevs).

BUT, it was a good thing. It proves that Town will lynch anyone that sounds good coming from even a quasi-trusted source. I think, if Oops defends anyone we know to be a baddie, we need to get that baddie lynch, no matter who it is, so Oops isn't as trusted as he now is. Even though half of town was saying, "Lysergic is town" they are now weary because of Oops. We need to discredit Oops. Any ideas would be awesome; we need a lot of them as one big plan just won't do it (as I proved).

[fm Landstander]

And also, not using the BS gun, in retrospect was obviously not the best idea, but I was laying low and I was going to use it to kill a neutral to gain the trust of town while I was laying low. The manor in which I got lynched was just a lucky shot for town; no matter who Oops blocked last night, with no mob kill, he would have used it to implicate them and get them lynched; it just happened to be me.

[fm Fred]

I'm not mad about your defense I am mad about you giving away the fact we have two mafioso's in your rage speech. It is better now anyways since we have two hookers that gives us A LOT more options. Hooker is probably our strongest mafia role. We can't go after Oops since he is a way too obvious heal target and there are multiple doctors to ensure that happens. He is onto me too because oops is a little bitch with hacks. We have already decided to send blastyoboots to do the kill last time I checked and I will probably hide lysergic since there is the most heat on him.

Today if our kill fails to go through again we need to have our consort claim as an escort and we will be able to lynch who we role block. If we are thinking about the thief than we should role block Rumpel as well as kill him gambling on the fact he is the thief. Also with our second consort we should get someone the silencing pill, I would say oops but he is going to get healed so maybe Illidan.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Do we know if Narks had invul/vest (not BS) or if he was healed?

Oops has to die. He was right about me (Elixir) which means there's credibility in his accusation of Lysergic and Suicidal.

And at this point, are we to assume that the Traitor is dead? We've well established that we're fine with him being back-up GF, as suicidal is going to die at some point; I wouldn't be surprised if he was shot at tonight. So if you're here, anywhere, there's no issue with you, just let us know who you are so we can plan for it.

And before you give me shit for my defense yesterday, I really was at my GFs house on my phone, so I wasn't able to mount a proper defense, and with the speed at which votes were piling, I had to say something; and I was hammered before I even mounted my actual defense with doctored PMs and such; too bad I missed that FAQ question, so that was my fault, but it didn't matter anyways.

It was a very aggravating situation, so I should appologize for having somewhat of a public-day meltdown; but it was a gamble lynch that they got lucky on, so I'm out for fucking blood now. No hard feelings to anyone of you that voted me; it had to be done and it should help that you guys were some of the first to vote (not that it helped the train any, but whatevs).

BUT, it was a good thing. It proves that Town will lynch anyone that sounds good coming from even a quasi-trusted source. I think, if Oops defends anyone we know to be a baddie, we need to get that baddie lynch, no matter who it is, so Oops isn't as trusted as he now is. Even though half of town was saying, "Lysergic is town" they are now weary because of Oops. We need to discredit Oops. Any ideas would be awesome; we need a lot of them as one big plan just won't do it (as I proved).

He wasn't invun, my gun got stolen by thief.
whom I think is rumple. SO I'm fucked if my gun gets stolen again or i get blocked for whatever reason.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

I'm not mad about your defense I am mad about you giving away the fact we have two mafioso's in your rage speech. It is better now anyways since we have two hookers that gives us A LOT more options. Hooker is probably our strongest mafia role. We can't go after Oops since he is a way too obvious heal target and there are multiple doctors to ensure that happens. He is onto me too because oops is a little bitch with hacks. We have already decided to send blastyoboots to do the kill last time I checked and I will probably hide lysergic since there is the most heat on him.

Today if our kill fails to go through again we need to have our consort claim as an escort and we will be able to lynch who we role block. If we are thinking about the thief than we should role block Rumpel as well as kill him gambling on the fact he is the thief. Also with our second consort we should get someone the silencing pill, I would say oops but he is going to get healed so maybe Illidan.

Yes if I am right then rumple is traitor I am safe, but on the other hand it may be Ambient who also suspected me. And what about cap and his sheriff claim he went silent fast, Illidan does need to be silenced, if a doc revives someone during the day does that mean they cant use their coroner skill?

[fm Fred]

If doc levels up he can both heal and perform autopsies otherwise no they have to choose. Like I said we should both roleblock and kill who you suspect of being the thief. Of course they may decide to actually use their item and shoot someone instead of stealing from you again which would be helpful towards the cause of eliminating players.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

If doc levels up he can both heal and perform autopsies otherwise no they have to choose. Like I said we should both roleblock and kill who you suspect of being the thief. Of course they may decide to actually use their item and shoot someone instead of stealing from you again which would be helpful towards the cause of eliminating players.

Yes that would be much better, and looking at the role list there is a max of 2 thieves, so hopefully we eliminate the one that stole from me, first if there are 2.

[fm Fred]

Also when we kill we should put something like "Narks is NOT a mason, he actually has a bulletproof vest and given evil neutrals know who each other are him and Luna are probably both evil neutrals" in the death note. At the very least it will cause confusion, distract from mafia being suspected and possibly reveal the mason leader.

[fm Fred]

"Narks is NOT a mason, we shot him and he actually has a bulletproof vest and given evil neutrals know who each other are him and Luna are probably both evil neutrals" - fixed

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Also when we kill we should put something like "Narks is NOT a mason, he actually has a bulletproof vest and given evil neutrals know who each other are him and Luna are probably both evil neutrals" in the death note. At the very least it will cause confusion, distract from mafia being suspected and possibly reveal the mason leader.

Good plan, speaking of why couldn't goremancer be converted, and why does he say narks is not mason?

[fm TheJackofSpades]

"Narks is NOT a mason, we shot him and he actually has a bulletproof vest and given evil neutrals know who each other are him and Luna are probably both evil neutrals" - fixed

Who said they got a bulletproof vest last night?
I will add him to the note I.E
"Either this guy is lying or narks is not mason, since he can't be killed at night.

[fm Fred]

NaRkS iS nOt A mAsOn! We sHoT hIm NiGhT 2 aNd It AcTiVaTeD hIs bUlLeTpRoOf VeSt. EvIl NeUtRaLs kNoW eAcH oThEr In ThIs SeTuP. NaRkS aNd LuNa ArE bOtH eViL nEuTrAlS tHaT ArE cOvErInG fOr EaCh OtHer.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

NaRkS iS nOt A mAsOn! We sHoT hIm NiGhT 2 aNd It AcTiVaTeD hIs bUlLeTpRoOf VeSt. EvIl NeUtRaLs kNoW eAcH oThEr In ThIs SeTuP. NaRkS aNd LuNa ArE bOtH eViL nEuTrAlS tHaT ArE cOvErInG fOr EaCh OtHer.

Only problem with this is if the "blacksmith" came out saying he gave narks one.
Or oops saying dont believe mafia filth, or sumi.. >.> he's scary and takes excellent notes.

[fm Suicidaln00b]

That doesn't seem like a bad idea. We can either get thief to reveal, the doctor, or something. I'm not sure I see a downside to that.

I have a feeling that something will happen involving me very soon. Lol.
Frankly, I'm surprised I'm still alive. Anyone have any requests they want me to put in my last will?

[fm Suicidaln00b]

Only problem with this is if the "blacksmith" came out saying he gave narks one.
Or oops saying dont believe mafia filth, or sumi.. >.> he's scary and takes excellent notes.

Either they believe us or not. I'm not sure there's anything better to put into a death note.
And at least that would reveal blacksmith....

[fm Fred]

Actually the death note might implicate me since I pointed out he wifomed town power. Bah shouldn't have done that! A pro to the death note is that town will know we didn't frame Narks and capatalier lied about his sheriff result.

[fm Landstander]

Elixir got a bullet proof vest last night. He gave me a gun and a vest.

[fm Kromos]

The only thing we can do is do something CRAZY something unexpected. with only 6 deaths we have 42 people left. 34/42 are "town" And with only 1 kpn since we no longer have elixirs extra gun we are screwed. We need to take out the power talkers first. and silence anyone who has tarnished my name. Not to mention I need to start "helping" the town. ONLY PROBLEM IS! Until the thief who took my gun is dead, I am FUCKED. Only thing is I need to make sure to be #5 on the town lynch list. as of current I always 2 votes on the lynch train. I just have to get rid of those 2.
My kill list: Rumple, Ambient, Sumi. technically "in" that order. If ganondorf is ACTUALLY arsonist we are in luck. We just need to partner with him and douse 2 win, They expect us to attack the masons, that would be super stupid, or attack nick, zack, or herr. They do not have enough protection for them all so we pick off "weaker town" like my top 3. Then we need to roleclaim AS NEEDED. Lysergic SHOULD be in the clear, Suicidal seems to be #2 on the lynch list, and if we get the arson to use bm to start a lynch train on "zack" or another "not so innocent role" the mafia can live as 6 another night/day.

Ill make sure your not lynched.... I don't know if there is a spy that can see anything we say but if your ever on the spot a modified night PM will be your life line.

[fm Suicidaln00b]

All the spy can do it tell what happened that night. They get an audio clip from the gm and they have to interpret it. i.e. gunshots, stabbings, etc.
As far as I know...
Correct me if I'm wrong gm, the more knowledge we have the better :D

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Ok so far we know:
Capitilizer is lying.
Narks was never framed he is suppose to be dead.
Ambient, Rumple, and Crimson all voted me at least once.
Zack is a "citizen" Which I do not believe.
Oops is a "sheriff", possible sk that is not killing.

[fm Landstander]

Ok so far we know:
Capitilizer is lying.
Narks was never framed he is suppose to be dead.
Ambient, Rumple, and Crimson all voted me at least once.
Zack is a "citizen" Which I do not believe.
Oops is a "sheriff", possible sk that is not killing.

Oops is an Independant Hooker. Oops did block Elixir Night 2. At least, no one else claimed to gave blocked me and how is Oops going to know that someone did?

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Oops is an Independant Hooker. Oops did block Elixir Night 2. At least, no one else claimed to gave blocked me and how is Oops going to know that someone did?

So kill oops 4th unless otherwise needed.

[fm Lysergic]

Hai guys, I'm going to get down to business. I'm going to runt hrough the thread in its entirety and try to come up with some plan to save ourselves. We can then decide night actions. As for Elixir, I don't blame him. oops got extremely lucky that Jack had his gun stolen. I only wish town could have been punished for the premature lynch had oops blocked someone else.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Hai guys, I'm going to get down to business. I'm going to runt hrough the thread in its entirety and try to come up with some plan to save ourselves. We can then decide night actions. As for Elixir, I don't blame him. oops got extremely lucky that Jack had his gun stolen. I only wish town could have been punished for the premature lynch had oops blocked someone else.

Yeah he thought he found the only killer. How did he get the list of fucking names though?! seriously.
and the return of "claw" could help us.

[fm BlastYoBoots]

Boots will roleclaim spy or bg and dimwit will claim citizen.

We could use the knock out pill on suicidal to help keep him alive and thus put pressure on Philie. Also, someone post the spy microphone info I cant fucking find it.

Finally tonight I need to keep hiding. With my night 1 visit to lysergic being proven by the private eye, claiming I thought him to be a killer and picked him per BG role ability would pass.

Also tomorrow im going full retard on boots, willbe fun.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

Boots will roleclaim spy or bg and dimwit will claim citizen.

We could use the knock out pill on suicidal to help keep him alive and thus put pressure on Philie. Also, someone post the spy microphone info I cant fucking find it.

Finally tonight I need to keep hiding. With my night 1 visit to lysergic being proven by the private eye, claiming I thought him to be a killer and picked him per BG role ability would pass.

Also tomorrow im going full retard on boots, willbe fun.

only one bg is allowed though and he is dead so can't claim that.
and yes full on retard works.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

[Spy]
Listen into someones house each night to see what is happening by placing a hidden microphone in his house and on the target himself.

Lvl 1-
Hear all actions done to target.

Lvl 2-
Hear all actions done to 2 targets.

To Lvl UP: Listen to a non-town role visit your target and correctly interpret the sound. (interpreting should be easy and comical...)
You will be notified when you level up.

spy info.

[fm Fred]

I have school all day tomorrow so I am going to have to decide on a night action before I go to bed tonight or I won't be able to send it. I am going to hide Lysergic I'm just not sure of what roles. I am thinking citizen/private eye/student/wizard/veteran I like putting citizen in there cause it prevents them from leveling up and veteran because it makes it so that they think there is only 4 roles cause if they checked vet they would be dead.

[fm TheJackofSpades]

I have school all day tomorrow so I am going to have to decide on a night action before I go to bed tonight or I won't be able to send it. I am going to hide Lysergic I'm just not sure of what roles. I am thinking citizen/private eye/student/wizard/veteran I like putting citizen in there cause it prevents them from leveling up and veteran because it makes it so that they think there is only 4 roles cause if they checked vet they would be dead.

Like it!

[fm Landstander]

I'm almost determined to Purple Pill Oops just to keep him from saying another fucking word. I haven't sent my action in, but I am going to bed. I'll be at work, but the boss's laptop is there so I should have no issue getting my actions in before the deadline.

If there's no consensus just before deadline, I'll actually probably Purple Pill Crimson or Narks. Open to suggestions.

[fm Fred]

Problem with the purple pill is healing negates it, if you go with anyone go for illidan since he is less likely to be healed than oops. Narks isn't a real threat in the day chat I think a better idea would be to roleblock oops to prevent him from roleblocking one of us.

[fm BlastYoBoots]

spy info.

No there was a post with all the microphone what they heard. If I am to claim spy I need dis infos.

[fm Suicidaln00b]

No there was a post with all the microphone what they heard. If I am to claim spy I need dis infos.
Yeah, that might be a problem.


I'll be at work, but the boss's laptop is there...
Lol