McPwnage's next MFM setup

[McJesus]

Godfather
Mafioso
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Evil Neutral
Evil Neutral
Benign Neutral
Sheriff
Investigator
Doctor
Lookout
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Hidden Mafia: Cosigliere, Hooker, Framer, Blackmailer, Witch, Drug Dealer, Lawyer
Evil Neutral: Serial Killer, Arsonist, Spree Killer, Cult Leader, Soul Thief
Benign Neutral: Survivor, Jester, Executioner, Amnesiac
Hidden Town: Sheriff, Investigator, Doctor, Lookout, Detective, Bus Driver, Jailor, Escort, Vigilante, Vetrean, Mayor

The theme is simple, everyone playing was kidnapped and put into a computer simulation of a mafia game. I was originally intending on doing a back to basics mfm for my next mfm hosting job however after getting pumped for forum mafia x I have decided to incorporate the concept of levelling into my mfm. This is version 1 meaning it is not final and will probably change based on my opinions of what works and what doesn’t in fmx

This is my mfm idea, I intend to wait until other people have hosted a few times to host again because I’m a nice person but when the time is right I will copy this thread into setup approval so this probably won’t happen for a month or two at least.

Any feedback would be appreciated!

[McJesus]

*reserved for (more) role cards and leveling up*

Godfather:
-Level 1: Is immune to night death and appears to investigators as citizen.
-Level 2: Loses all immunities but gains ability to pierce healing and clean role.
Level up: Be the last mafia member alive. (notified of leveling up)

Mafioso:
-Level 1: Ability to kill
-Level 2: Kill and clean role and last will
Level up: Successfully kill 3 people (notified of leveling up)

Cosigilere:
-Level 1: Gets investigative parings
-Level 2: Detects exact role
Level up: Find information on four different targets or fake claim investigator and successfully lynch a town role you have investigated (notified of leveling up)

Hooker:
-Level 1: Target Recieves Notification they were roleblocked
-Level 2: Target Does not receive notification they were roleblocked
Level up: Block Three Non Citizen Roles or Block 1 investigative role who is targeting a mafia member (not notified of leveling up)

Framer:
-Level 1: Frames Target as mafia role of framer’s choosing
-Level 2: Target will also appear to have targeted the player the mafia attempts to kill that night to detectives and lookouts
Level up: Frame one target who is checked by an investigative role on the same night (not notified of leveling up)

Blackmailer:
Limits the targeted person to only being able to type –vote player or else they will be modkilled. No leveling up

Witch:
-Level 1: Targets will be notified of witching
-Level 2: Targets will not be notified of witching
Level up: Successfully witch three non citizens (not notified of leveling up)

Drug Dealer:
-Level 1: Can choose a fake effect to give the player, possible effects are:
-player was witched
-player was bus driven
-player was attacked and healed
-Level 2: fake soul was stolen drug is added
-Level 3: drug dealer can now target two players
Level up: (2) successfully drug three people using a minimum of two different drugs (3) drug an additional person after reaching level 2 (notified of leveling up)

Lawyer:
-Level 1: Hides a member of the mafia as a town role of the lawyer’s choosing
-Level 2: Lookouts and detectives will not see who the target visited
Level up: hide a member of the mafia when they are investigated by an investigative role (not notified of leveling up)

Serial Killer:
-Level 1: Can kill one person per night
-Level 2: Gains Night Immunity
Level up: successfully kill three people in a row

Arsonist:
-Level 1: Selects player to douce/undouce at night, can burn all douced players during the day
-Level 2: Gains night immunity
-Level 3: level 2 abilities + Burning cleans roles, last wills and pierces immunities
Level up: (2) burn three people at once (3) burn four people at once (notified of leveling up)

Spree Killer:
-Level 1: Kills target and anyone who visits target
-Level 2: Gains night immunity
-Level 3: level 2 abilities + kills person victim targets
Level up: (2) kill three people at once (3) kill four people at once (notified of leveling up)

Cult Leader:
Recruits player to cult, secretly changes their alignment. The cult leader will be killed if they try to recruit godfather. The cult leader does not level up.

Soul Thief:
The soul stealer steals someone’s soul, giving you the powers of their role and giving them the awesome abilities of a citizen. Both the soul thief and their victim's alignment remains the same. This ability may only be used once, however if you try and steal the soul of a citizen you will still be able to try and steal someone else's soul. The soul stealer does not level up however steals the level progress of the target they steal. Their leveling up objectives will be changed to suit their alignment for example if they steal a vigilante they will level up for killing town roles instead of evil roles.

roles soul thief cannot steal: citizen, jester, executioner, amnesiac

Survivor:
Has four one time use bullet proof vests, does not level up

Jester:
Must be lynched to win
A random guilty voter will die upon success
Does not level up

Executioner:
Must successfully lynch their target to win
The target is town aligned
If their target dies by means other than lynching they will be given a new town aligned target to execute
A random guilty voter will die upon success
Does not level up

Amnesiac:
Picks a role from the graveyard to become, will inherit their role, alignment and level progress. If Amnesiac does not pick a role a role their objective will be to survive


Sheriff:
Level 1: Detects Mafia Roles
Level 2: Detects Evil Neutral Roles
Level 3: Detects level 1 godfather
Level Up: (2) successfully investigate a member of the mafia (3) successfully investigate an evil neutral (notified of leveling up)

Investigator:
-Level 1: Gets investigative parings
-Level 2: Detects exact role
Level up: Find information on four different targets or claim investigator and successfully lynch a non town role you have investigated. (notified of leveling up)

Doctor:
Heals Target, does not level up

Lookout:
-Level 1: Sees who targeted the watched player
-Level 2: Also sees who the watched player targets
Level up: Follow your target on the night of their death (notified of leveling up)

Detective:
-Level 1: Sees who the followed player targets
-Level 2: Also sees who targeted the followed player
Level up: Successfully see your target kill someone

Bus Driver:
-Level 1: Swaps two targets making all night actions target the other player
-Level 2: Can swap target with self
Level up: Redirect a kill onto an evil role (notified of leveling up)

Jailor:
Jailor selects a target to jail during the day and has the option of executing the target at night. Pierces all immunities and provides night immunity from all other attacks for jailed target
-Level 1: Has two execution, can only jail and execute on no lynch days
-Level 2: Gains an additional execution, can jail on lynch days but can only execute on no lynch days
-Level 3: Gains an additional execution, can jail and execute on lynch days
Level up: (2) Execute a non town role (3) Reach level 2 and execute an evil role (notified of leveling up)

Vigilante:
-Level 1: Has two night shots to kill people with
-Level 2: Gains one day shot
-Level 3: Gains one more day shot and two more night shots
Level up: (2) Kill a non town role (3) Kill non town roles with all your shots (notified of leveling up)

Veteran:
-Level 1: Can go on alert two times, becoming night immune and killing anyone who targets them
-Level 2: Is always on alert, alert pierces immunity
Level up: kill an evil role who targets you or survive a killing attack and have not killed any town members on your previous alert (notified of leveling up)

Mayor:
appears as citizen until revealed
Level 1: vote counts for three
Level 2: vote counts for four and gains a one use pardon that lets them nullify a lynch
Level up: Hammer an evil role while revealed (notified of leveling up)

Citizen:
has the power of voting and does not level up

[Kromos]

I like this setup, the leveling system is simpler and well thought out. I'm also a huge fan of the cult but I haven't been in a game with them yet. The cult leader is so much more powerful than the other neutral killers so that will impact the game a lot.

I don't think the neutral killers should gain invulnerability and other OP abilities after they have killed a certain amount of players. This will just make them stronger as the town gets weaker. If they are to get immunity they should get a 1-shot passive vest instead. I can't really comment on balance because it's quite variable. There could be 1 KPN or there could be 3. The cult also can't be balanced as the cult leader could die day 1 or he could cult a mafia and the jailor and go on to win. There are a lot of power roles and a lot of scum so a mass role claim is very likely even with the risk of the soul thief.

How many cultists will die when the cult leader dies (if any)?
Can the drug dealer make someone look like they've been blocked or maybe even blackmailed?

[McJesus]

I am still working on the town's level ups, town gets stronger over time too! I just posted the factions I have finished. All cultists die if cult leader dies.

As for the evil neutrals leveling up their objectives are hard. Three in a row means the serial killer can't be roleblocked, jailed, or target an immune player. The spree killer has to be really lucky to get three or four kills in one night. It is hard to get a triple kill off as an arsonist and almost impossible to get a quadruple kill. Oh if they kill 4 at once they will level up before they actually pull the kill off so all 4 will be sanitized!

I debated that however I think the additional effects in forum mafia x would be overpowered.

[McJesus]

all roles are now up

[Luna]

I'm a big fan of simple setups, I like the original role list a lot.

Not really in the frame of mind to think about the implications of the levelling up stuff right now (though a quick look did tell me that under 'Blackmailer' you've got stuff about witching?).

I'd wait to see how FMX progresses before commenting on the levelling up system.

[McJesus]

I'm a big fan of simple setups, I like the original role list a lot.

Not really in the frame of mind to think about the implications of the levelling up stuff right now (though a quick look did tell me that under 'Blackmailer' you've got stuff about witching?).

I'd wait to see how FMX progresses before commenting on the levelling up system.

That was a typo I fixed, thanks for pointing it out. What are your predictions on the balance of fmx? Personally I like the idea of leveling and I think I balanced it to work for a smaller mfm game but that remins to be seen.

[Luna]

I think the levelling system is a cool twist. I think it might be a million times easier to balance and plan if only a few roles could level up - I don't think it's necessary to give pretty much every Power Role extra abilities. It's not just a question of balancing the game but also balancing the player experience. I'm looking forward to FMX but trying to remember how everyone levels up and the implications of EVERY ROLE and EVERY LEVEL might make my brain implode.

Even in the M-FM setting with fewer players I'd consider including less roles that can level up, and a maximum level of two.

[McJesus]

I think after the first couple days of fmx this setup takes what works from it and scraps what doesn't (5 random investigation results and other such things). We still have to see how things will go however.

[Blazer]

It looks cool!