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[Damus_Graves]

Werewolf

Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
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Werewolf
Bite a player at night. Choose between death and conversion. Citizens only can be converted

Citizen
Can be turned into a minion.

Minion
Ally of werewolf.

Priest
Prevents conversion

Hunter
One shot kill at night.

Lunatic
Check player at night, Sees Town as Werewolf and the Werewolf as town. Tl;dr naive sheriff

Lookout
See all visitors on your target

Doctor
Heals target if attacked

Sheriff
check a player at night. Sees if target is werewolf or Town. Can detect minions



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OoO:
Lookout
Werewolf
Doctor - Affects kills
Priest - Affects conversion
Hunter
Lunatic



Win Condition:
Werewolf: convert/kill all town; have yourself or a minion survive to the end.
Town: kill all werewolves and minions
Minion wins ties

Mechanics:
Day/night: 48/24 hrs
Majority lynch
No nightchats
The Minion is considered a possible town power role
If the werewolf dies and a minion is alive. The minion will become a werewolf
Werewolves are capped at having two minions recruited.


Codes of conduct;
No OOG communication
Don’t directly quote your rolecards
Don’t personally attack other players

[Gerik]

Werewolf
Bite a player at night. Choose between death and conversation. Citizens only can be converted


So... Come here often?

[creedkingsx]

Minions should be red. Lunatics are neutral?

[Cryptonic]

Who wins ties, town or minions

[Banshis]

So... Come here often?

Exactly what I thought.

[Damus_Graves]

Minions should be red. Lunatics are neutral?
I am not changing the color of either role just because they are both town roles even tho minion cannot win with town.


Who wins ties, town or minions
Minion win ties

[creedkingsx]

I am not changing the color of either role just because they are both town roles even tho minion cannot win with town.


Minion win ties

That doesnt sound like a town role.
If their win con is to kill the werewolf and minions and both the roles win specifically not in that situation...

[Damus_Graves]

That doesnt sound like a town role.
If their win con is to kill the werewolf and minions and both the roles win specifically not in that situation...

That’s fine. The wincondition kid both roles are clearly stated

[Kenny]

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Win Condition:
Werewolf: convert/kill all town; have yourself or a minion survive to the end.
Town: kill all werewolves and minions
Minion wins ties


I am not changing the color of either role just because they are both town roles even tho minion cannot win with town.
Minion win ties

That’s fine. The wincondition kid both roles are clearly stated
So minions have to kill themselves to win? Because they are town?

[Damus_Graves]

The win conditions for minions are clearly stated. But for extra clarity. No. Minions win with werewolves and win ties against town.

[Kenny]

The win conditions for minions are clearly stated. But for extra clarity. No. Minions win with werewolves and win ties against town.So they have the werewolf wincon, they do not have the town wincon, they win ties against the town, but they themselves actually are town

[Damus_Graves]

It is a similar concept to mafia traitor

[creedkingsx]

You understand this doesnt have to be this confusing, right? Lmfao literally just treat it like a cultist/jester (post executioner failure).

[Kenny]

Bite a player at night. Choose between death and conversation. Citizens only can be converted

Is "Citizens only can be converted" supposed to mean everyone can be converted, but only power roles can be killed? Or should it be the opposite?
Mainly asking because the citizen rolecard specifically mentions "can be turned into a minion" but others don't

[Damus_Graves]

Is "Citizens only can be converted" supposed to mean everyone can be converted, but only power roles can be killed? Or should it be the opposite?
Mainly asking because the citizen rolecard specifically mentions "can be turned into a minion" but others don't

Only citizens can be converted

[Cryptonic]

Is "Citizens only can be converted" supposed to mean everyone can be converted, but only power roles can be killed? Or should it be the opposite?
Mainly asking because the citizen rolecard specifically mentions "can be turned into a minion" but others don't

Lol ur such a dick

[Slaol]

Explain lunatic

[creedkingsx]

Explain lunatic

Jester

[Slaol]

Jester

I need more than that

[Damus_Graves]

Insane sheriff tied with jester.
Purpose of the role is to impact the mindset of depending on sheriff claims and provide additional challenge to town so they can’t just Lynch one and done.

[Cryptonic]

Insane sheriff tied with jester.
Purpose of the role is to impact the mindset of depending on sheriff claims and provide additional challenge to town so they can’t just Lynch one and done.

but sheriff isn't possible :(

[Slaol]

but sheriff isn't possible :(
Damus_Graves

This is what im getting at

[Damus_Graves]

are you suggesting that I remove the role? I can definitely do that since werewolf has a cult mechanic as well as killing.

My inital thought was that town was a bit strong so that’s why I had it in the setup

[Slaol]

are you suggesting that I remove the role? I can definitely do that since werewolf has a cult mechanic as well as killing.

My inital thought was that town was a bit strong so that’s why I had it in the setup

You need to just kind of clean it up and make sure its fluid. Like sheriff needs to be in game...

[Damus_Graves]

Bet

[Slaol]

The Hunter to Lunatic mechanic is not good in its current form. The Town losing 2 players because of a night action is not balanced.

[Damus_Graves]

The Hunter to Lunatic mechanic is not good in its current form. The Town losing 2 players because of a night action is not balanced.

Would removing the jester aspect of the role better suit the game? Im concerned about Sheriff check breaking the game. Could add that Sheriff does not know if lunatic or not and change hunter to a one shot instead.

[Slaol]

Would removing the jester aspect of the role better suit the game? Im concerned about Sheriff check breaking the game. Could add that Sheriff does not know if lunatic or not and change hunter to a one shot instead.

Reverse sheriff is better than fully insane sheriff, but consider making each one unique if there is a sheriff/hunter>sheriff occurance so one may be sane and the other insane.
Removing jester would be good.

Ive wanted to use an insane sheriff who didnt know he was evil for some time but having it go from town to anti town is imba. Especially when the game is already doing that.

Hunter>some sheriff means it loses a town, gets a weaker night action, and needs 2 nights to figure itself out. Thats plenty a nerf imo. No need for it to change alignment

[Damus_Graves]

Adjusted lunatic to reverse sheriff. Do you see any other issues?

[Damus_Graves]

Marshmallow Marshall
If I can this approved we can add it to the queue.
Do you see any adjustment needing to be made

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I feel like the werewolf is very likely to win this because of the unlimited amount of conversions per game. I think capping it at 3 is a good idea, because else, if the Werewolf(s) are good at finding who's citizen, they can just... convert forever, even if the minions die. If 3 towns are converted, town is in a very bad position anyway, and it would allow for more interesting LYLO plays IMO.

That's all I see that could be adjusted, the other stuff is neat.


Questions for clarity:

- If doctor successfully heals, who gets feedback (if anyone gets any)?
- Does the Lunatic know that he's a Lunatic, or does he think he's a Sheriff? If he does know it... why does the role exist, without wanting to be an asshole?
Damus_Graves

[Damus_Graves]

I feel like the werewolf is very likely to win this because of the unlimited amount of conversions per game. I think capping it at 3 is a good idea, because else, if the Werewolf(s) are good at finding who's citizen, they can just... convert forever, even if the minions die. If 3 towns are converted, town is in a very bad position anyway, and it would allow for more interesting LYLO plays IMO.

That's all I see that could be adjusted, the other stuff is neat.


Questions for clarity:

- If doctor successfully heals, who gets feedback (if anyone gets any)?
- Does the Lunatic know that he's a Lunatic, or does he think he's a Sheriff? If he does know it... why does the role exist, without wanting to be an asshole?
Damus_Graves

I’ve capped at two max recruits.
Doctor gets successful heal feedback
Lunatic role does not know if lunatic
Lunatic role is basically naive sheriff and I love the role

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I’ve capped at two max recruits.
Doctor gets successful heal feedback
Lunatic role does not know if lunatic
Lunatic role is basically naive sheriff and I love the role

Oh, I had misunderstood it as "two recruits cap at the same time". My bad.
K
Makes sense lol
That does too. Maybe write it on the setup though because it's not 100% clear :P

[Damus_Graves]

Oh, I had misunderstood it as "two recruits cap at the same time". My bad.
K
Makes sense lol
That does too. Maybe write it on the setup though because it's not 100% clear :P

Boom

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Setup approved