S-FM: Clown town

[Slaol]

13 player game where everyone is a jester in addition to being their role.

3 mafia
9 town, guaranteed at least 3 PRs and at least 3 Cits
1 neutral which may be evil or neutral

- Jester Facts -
Mafia jesters can pick their jester kill upon lynch
Town jesters are randomized
Neutral evils kill half the voters. 1 random and the others are chosen alphabetically
Neutral benign remove the power role of all voters

- KEY FEATURES READ THIS SETUP SKIMMERS -
No role claiming at all under any circumstance. No referencing anything from the role card PM at all. Instant modkill on first offense no warnings love you thanks bye, cirer
Lynch vote will be 33.33% rounded up, unless a mayor reveals in which case he will have the only vote and can not suicide by a town role
Grave will have roles revealed with no alignment revealed.

Roles, including crier, can be any of the followint. Sheriff, doctor, crier, veteran, vigilante, jailor, detective, investigator, lookout, crier, mafioso, bodyguard, godfather, consigliere, crier, janitor, escort, crier, consort, coroner, serial killer, cultist, mason, arsonist, crier, survivor, jester, executioner, crier, marshall, citizen, witch doctor, witch, bus driver, beguiler, framer, blackmailer, drug dealer i guess for mostly wifom
Role settings can be unique to the player, for example 2 vigilantes may have different shots or a citizen may have a vest, etc
OoO is from Sc2
Win cons like Sc2
Days will be determined by a formula that follows as such. Hours = 24 + players + (lynch the previous day x 4) - hours left after the lynch + (players dead at night x 0.5) - neutrals
Nights will be a surprise but no shorter than 24 hours, crier

Wip

Who do i need to @ to get this approved asap

[AIVION]

Marshmallow Marshall

This looks sexy. :3

[Ganelon]

What's the factional wincons?

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Marshmallow Marshall

This looks sexy. :3

Thanks.
Slaol, you say this is a WIP (and it is) so I cannot approve it right now, obviously. The idea is good, though, so I'm looking foward to more stuff added to it! Now, some questions.

You say that the roles can be "any from sc2", but that alignments aren't revealed upon death. Does that mean that there can be a Mafia Doctor or something like that? In other words, can any role be of any alignment?

I assume that the OoO is the same than the one on the mod (which can be found here (http://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Mechanics))?

Concern: Killing all voters might be a tiny bit gamebreaking, plus it discourages putting votes, which is a bad thing. I really think this needs to be either changed or balanced by something else somewhere.

will edit later

[Slaol]

What's the factional wincons?

Same as sc2. Including benigns

[Slaol]

Thanks.
Slaol, you say this is a WIP (and it is) so I cannot approve it right now, obviously. The idea is good, though, so I'm looking foward to more stuff added to it! Now, some questions.

You say that the roles can be "any from sc2", but that alignments aren't revealed upon death. Does that mean that there can be a Mafia Doctor or something like that? In other words, can any role be of any alignment?

I assume that the OoO is the same than the one on the mod (which can be found here (http://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Mechanics))?

Concern: Killing all voters might be a tiny bit gamebreaking, plus it discourages putting votes, which is a bad thing. I really think this needs to be either changed or balanced by something else somewhere.

will edit later

Yes. As well the benign win con could be any of the benign win cons while the role is unrelated. For example, a jester wincon on a neutral benign doctor

Yes OoO is the standard. Do people still stress this with a competant host?

Your concern need not be as it is.

Also while the formatting of this is currently WIP frankly i have already decided everything and im ready to host.

[Slaol]

Ill add some color so people feel good about it

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Yes. As well the benign win con could be any of the benign win cons while the role is unrelated. For example, a jester wincon on a neutral benign doctor

Yes OoO is the standard. Do people still stress this with a competant host?

Your concern need not be as it is.

Also while the formatting of this is currently WIP frankly i have already decided everything and im ready to host.

Ok

Ok, you should probably put that link to OoO in the setup just so you don't get spam asked what happens when :P also are you asking if we are applying the OoO's of our setups....???? Of course we do.

. . . . . well it still stands and I'd like it to be discussed, please.


A complete rule set would also be useful, and so would day/night lenght.

The roles on the mod have a lot of settings, so it would be good to list the roles with their pertinent rulings, or simply a list of special stuff if you're not wanting to do a full list.

The Judge role being impossible to use on here, will the FM variant (narrow the lynch pool to two people, if noone gets voted to death both die at EoD) be used? Will you need the Crier account?

Saying that any roles from the mod can be used needs more details about the said roles, the questions above are just some examples.

[Slaol]

No im asking if we are assuming a competent host cant manage a game.

I said OoO will be like Sc2. Specific settings can be custom to a player.

Crier just makes a post before the day. Fuck.
Okay ima just pop down a list of roles gimme 8 seconds

[Slaol]

Hows that

[Marshmallow Marshall]

No im asking if we are assuming a competent host cant manage a game.

I said OoO will be like Sc2. Specific settings can be custom to a player.

Crier just makes a post before the day. Fuck.
Okay ima just pop down a list of roles gimme 8 seconds

...Okay, let's not get in a pissing contest here please :P

So the possible roles with their attributes aren't totally known, right?

Oh, that kind of crier? OK lol

Yay

[Slaol]

...Okay, let's not get in a pissing contest here please :P

So the possible roles with their attributes aren't totally known, right?

Oh, that kind of crier? OK lol

Yay

Its not a pissing match. Just silly i should have just said "fuck it setup is hidden" lol.

No any player could have any role, with any custom specialization

[Ganelon]

13 player game where everyone is a jester in addition to being their role.

3 mafia
9 town, guaranteed at least 3 PRs and at least 3 Cits
1 neutral which may be evil or neutral

- Jester Facts -
Mafia jesters can pick their jester kill upon lynch
Town jesters are randomized
Neutral evils kill all voters
Neutral benign remove the power role of all voters

- KEY FEATURES READ THIS SETUP SKIMMERS -
No role claiming at all under any circumstance. No referencing anything from the role card PM at all. Instant modkill on first offense no warnings love you thanks bye
Lynch vote will be 33.33%+1 unless a mayor reveals in which case he will have the only vote and can not suicide by a town role
Grave will have roles revealed with no alignment revealed.

Roles can be any of the followint. Sheriff, doctor, veteran, vigilante, jailor, detective, investigator, lookout, crier, mafioso, bodyguard, godfather, consigliere, janitor, escort, consort, coroner, serial killer, cultist, mason, arsonist, survivor, jester, executioner, crier, marshall, citizen, witch doctor, witch, bus driver, beguiler, framer, blackmailer, drug dealer i guess for mostly wifom
Role settings can be unique to the player, for example 2 vigilantes may have different shots or a citizen may have a vest, etc
OoO is from Sc2
Win cons like Sc2

Wip

Who do i need to @ to get this approved asap

Interesting setup. This reminds me a lot of Vengeful.

I myself see nothing wrong with it.

There is, however, the question of how you're going to deal with potential paradoxes like bus driver/escort/witch/beguiler combinations.
Normally in SC2, the sequences would be run a random number of times to avoid gamebreaking results, and I've personally seen an FM where the sequences were run as many times as necessary.

I hope this is actually true hahaha

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Its not a pissing match. Just silly i should have just said "fuck it setup is hidden" lol.

No any player could have any role, with any custom specialization

Ok great!

Two last things: the neutral evil, I still want to know what you're gonna do with it lol. Couldn't it be just... kill one guy of your choice and audit all other voters? I hate the idea of seeing 6 (or 7?) deaths on D1 xD it doesn't work

When you'll have time, it'd be nice to make the role list more visually good to read. More eye-huggy <3

[Slaol]

Day and night added

[Slaol]

Day 1 lynch is only 5 people. Im using 33.3% as a lynch, not majoriry

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Interesting setup. This reminds me a lot of Vengeful.

I myself see nothing wrong with it.

I hope this is actually true hahaha

I nearly posted a novel about Vengeful game and the tons of flaws it had. But this solves it: town doesn't get to choose their kill! So there's no weird ass lynching your townreads to avoid giving mafia a kill.

The setup is pretty good yep

YESSSS :D

[Slaol]

More eye-huggy <3

Werent you a dude earlier

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Day 1 lynch is only 5 people. Im using 33.3% as a lynch, not majoriry

Yes, + the neutral evil himself. That's 5 + 1 = 6 deaths on D1. Nearly half the game dead. It's not balanced: it's gamebreaking. And it would be on D2 too, where deaths would probably be like 4? One role should not have the ability to make the game do a 180 only by its role. I literally cannot approve this setup if this stays like that. Unless you want the game to become a meme :calix:

[Ganelon]

Yes, + the neutral evil himself. That's 5 + 1 = 6 deaths on D1. Nearly half the game dead. It's not balanced: it's gamebreaking. And it would be on D2 too, where deaths would probably be like 4? One role should not have the ability to make the game do a 180 only by its role. I literally cannot approve this setup if this stays like that. Unless you want the game to become a meme :calix:
Problem is that neutral evil doesn't want to get lynched. So they won't exactly be in any hurry of acting scummy lol

[Slaol]

Interesting setup. This reminds me a lot of Vengeful.

I myself see nothing wrong with it.

There is, however, the question of how you're going to deal with potential paradoxes like bus driver/escort/witch/beguiler combinations.
Normally in SC2, the sequences would be run a random number of times to avoid gamebreaking results, and I've personally seen an FM where the sequences were run as many times as necessary.

I hope this is actually true hahaha

Im gonna modkill the fucking shit out of role claimers.

Ill solve it though basic logical steps. Ill also not put in too many damned roles to cause it.

[Slaol]

Yes, + the neutral evil himself. That's 5 + 1 = 6 deaths on D1. Nearly half the game dead. It's not balanced: it's gamebreaking. And it would be on D2 too, where deaths would probably be like 4? One role should not have the ability to make the game do a 180 only by its role. I literally cannot approve this setup if this stays like that. Unless you want the game to become a meme :calix:

Yet you allow arsonist in

[Slaol]

Gg dude. If town grabs up a cute little neuteal evil lynch the first day im cool with it

[Slaol]

Fine hold on

[Slaol]

Halved it

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Halved it

Good. If you really want more explainations on that, pm me on discord (The Dark Lord on there, with a zeratul avatar) and I'll be glad to :)

And now, Approved. When would you like to host this? The Turnabout game should take a while, and the FM event shouldn't be in too long... idk when to put it honestly, would you be able to host it in something like a week? I can put it right after Turnabout in the queue.

I still think it's a good idea to polish the setup's look when you have time btw.

:slaol: Slaol :slaol:

[Slaol]

Good. If you really want more explainations on that, pm me on discord (The Dark Lord on there, with a zeratul avatar) and I'll be glad to :)

And now, Approved. When would you like to host this? The Turnabout game should take a while, and the FM event shouldn't be in too long... idk when to put it honestly, would you be able to host it in something like a week? I can put it right after Turnabout in the queue.

I still think it's a good idea to polish the setup's look when you have time btw.

:slaol: Slaol :slaol:

Id like to jump Turnabout if thats okay. Turnabout needs some player talent and Cryptonic told me he was sitting out a bit so i may have come up with this specifically to try to kill time for him to come back for a quality game of turnabout.

If thats uncool im still all about this game but that was my original idea

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Id like to jump Turnabout if thats okay. Turnabout needs some player talent and Cryptonic told me he was sitting out a bit so i may have come up with this specifically to try to kill time for him to come back for a quality game of turnabout.

If thats uncool im still all about this game but that was my original idea

The signups are kinda already open and I have already delayed Turnabout twice for other games... I think I'd just put this one after Turnabout. Nothing says it won't get re-hosted, nor that Crypt won't sign if it takes more time to get people (but yes it's doubtful). Would you really mind to go right after Turnabout?

[Slaol]

I wouldnt, especially if youve postponed already, but straight up i came up with this setup while driving home because i saw Xryptonic was gonna miss turnabout and i wanted to prevent that.

Ill follow turnabout

[Marshmallow Marshall]

I wouldnt, especially if youve postponed already, but straight up i came up with this setup while driving home because i saw Xryptonic was gonna miss turnabout and i wanted to prevent that.

Ill follow turnabout

That's 100% honourable lol. If I hadn't already delayed the game and that signups weren't posted I'd say yes, but yea. Thanks ♥ (pls no dating :p)

Updating queue and going to bed now, it's 11 am... pm me/post here if you have any questions or whatever and I'll be here tomorrow.

Btw you could post signups when Turnabout is ending soon, you don't have to wait until game is officially over to lauch signups. Somewhere like on D4 or D3 if there aren't a lot of people alive should be good.

[Slaol]

♥ (pls no dating :p)

Dont tell me how to live my life

[Marshmallow Marshall]

Dont tell me how to live my life

Don't tell me how to live mine either

and u kinda just did

time for circlejerk though

or sleep...

[Cryptonic]

Post signups meow and just dont start until later. Signups fill slowishly