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DJarJar
January 5th, 2018, 11:57 AM
Hotkey/In-game Name/number/Role

Cntrl 2 / SirMad / 6 / Bodyguard
Cntrl 6 / JAILOR BOI / 12 / Mass Murderer

Ok so the Mass Murderer which is number 12 chooses to visit number 1 night one. The Bodyguard which is number 6 chooses to protect 12 (the MM) n1.
I checked and there is not a single bus driver or witch in the game. There is a beguiler but he is player 8 so he's not involved in either of these actions.

The bodyguard ends up dying to the MM along with the players who actually visited player 1.


Is this a bug or is it intended that since the BG was protecting the MM, he followed him to the target house and then got killed there?

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BoxerRebellion
January 5th, 2018, 12:08 PM
Oh shit I was the amnesiac in that game. Haha

Cryptonic
January 6th, 2018, 12:16 PM
Intended.

powerofdeath
January 6th, 2018, 02:24 PM
Yeah I believe using this mechanics, BG can fight off the MM. If BG visited let say 3, and 3 visited 1, then this way BG fight off MM in a duel. I could be dead wrong.

DJarJar
January 6th, 2018, 03:52 PM
no no, the BG did not visit the MM's target and die in a duel,
the BG targeted the MM, who targeted somebody completely different, and the BG got eviscerated by the MM.

Yukitaka Oni
January 8th, 2018, 11:38 AM
Intended.
I’m going to explain why this is intended
Think about mm logic as a real life. The bodyguard choose to protect the mm so HE FOLLOWED the mm to the mm target house. Therefore it’s considered that bodyguard has follow mm to his target house so, the mm kill everyone in that house including the bodyguard

DJarJar
January 8th, 2018, 04:09 PM
I’m going to explain why this is intended
Think about mm logic as a real life. The bodyguard choose to protect the mm so HE FOLLOWED the mm to the mm target house. Therefore it’s considered that bodyguard has follow mm to his target house so, the mm kill everyone in that house including the bodyguard

Thank you for the explanation! That's what I was assuming was the reason I just wasn't sure if that was the mechanic or not. It's cool how there are always more little nuances of the game to learn.

OzyWho
January 8th, 2018, 06:57 PM
Does everyone who targets the MM visit the same house that MM does?

Or is it role-specific? Doctor and BG would always be near the MM, while investigator wouldn't. What about lookout/detective?

Can anyone make a full list of roles that target the MM-targeted-house and list of roles that target the MM-house? Could be a worthy addition to http://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Murderer


A Doctor will save someone who is targeted by the Mass Murderer and stays in their "home", the Doctor will still die.
A Bodyguard will kill a Mass Murderer who attacks the Bodyguard's target at the target's home.
Lookouts and Detectives do not survive if they visit the Mass Murderer's target.
Escorts and Consorts do survive if they visit the Mass Murderer and the Mass Murderer is visiting himself.
Learn something new every day. Btw - that highlighted part in that quote. I assume nothing in that sentence would chance if that highlighted part would be removed? Why is it here? It must have some purpose that I don't understand.

DJarJar
January 8th, 2018, 07:13 PM
Does everyone who targets the MM visit the same house that MM does?

Or is it role-specific? Doctor and BG would always be near the MM, while investigator wouldn't. What about lookout/detective?

Can anyone make a full list of roles that target the MM-targeted-house and list of roles that target the MM-house? Could be a worthy addition to http://sc2mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Murderer


Learn something new every day. Btw - that highlighted part in that quote. I assume nothing in that sentence would chance if that highlighted part would be removed? Why is it here? It must have some purpose that I don't understand.

it's prolly just included to make it extra clear that it is ONLY true if the BG visits MM's target rather than the MM himself

OzyWho
January 8th, 2018, 09:23 PM
How many roles follow their target and how many roles visit their targets house only?
Important info when we talk about MM.

Cryptonic
January 9th, 2018, 05:53 AM
I’m going to explain why this is intended
Think about mm logic as a real life. The bodyguard choose to protect the mm so HE FOLLOWED the mm to the mm target house. Therefore it’s considered that bodyguard has follow mm to his target house so, the mm kill everyone in that house including the bodyguard

yep, just like how the TC phrased it in the OP when he asked it if was intended that way or not.

Yukitaka Oni
January 9th, 2018, 12:28 PM
How many roles follow their target and how many roles visit their targets house only?
Important info when we talk about MM.
Sheriff, investigator visit people house
Detective, doctor, bodyguard followed their target
The list could go on but I haven’t play mafia again to re-check if there is anything updated
It’s funny the town always consider me a mafia for....being a smartass in this little details. Meh, this is why I play lurk as a mafia, because if town is dumb then don’t ask me why I am not being nice to’em

Ganelon
April 1st, 2018, 06:08 AM
I've just been in a game where a Detective successfully detected the Mass Murderer visiting his target without being attacked. So, this might actually be a bug...

Cryptonic
April 1st, 2018, 10:09 AM
I've just been in a game where a Detective successfully detected the Mass Murderer visiting his target without being attacked. So, this might actually be a bug...

It's not a bug

Ganelon
April 1st, 2018, 02:40 PM
It's not a bug

The detective did NOT die.

Cryptonic
April 4th, 2018, 06:10 AM
The detective did NOT die.

He's not supposed to
BG fights MM When protecting MM. What does Detective have to do with this mechanic.

dooglrig
June 4th, 2018, 04:04 PM
oni said a detective "follows" a mm to mms target. and gets attacked by mm in consquence, but thats not true. i just played a game where i found mm as det and i was not attacked.