Mini-FM II: Day 3/Night 3 - V is for Vhat?

[Fragos]

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As if Mafia Family, two maniacs and jailor wasn't enough, there appeared another man, who could also kill people without any hesitation.

That night, an intruder breaked inside McPwnage's house. Right after breaking in, without saying any word or warning, the masked intruder immediately shot McPwnage right into the head. Shortly after killing him, the intruder dissappeared, leaving behind a single scrap of paper with one word on it: V

When the town wakes up, they found McPwnage's dead body with "V" on the scrap, and decided to check is background. To their shock, McPwnage was the local Sheriff. He left a last will:

I'm the real sheriff bitches, just so you know bbmola is cleared I checked him because I mistook his noobishness for suspcious play day 1. I am checking dust tonight, I believe sumikoko is innocent but we shall see.

Was that really a vengeance that "V" desired?


Meanwhile, one of the citizens decided to swip in a lake at early morning. He dives inside the cold water, and then he saw something that caused him to nearly lose his breath. In the bottom of the lake, there was a drowned body of BBmolla... with his legs encased in cement. The swimmer, still naked, runned towards the town hall, and warned other people about his dread discovery. When BBmolla's body was recovered from the bottom of the lake, they found a small paper on him. It was difficult to read because the paper nearly eroded in water, but it was unmistakably BBmolla's last will, which revealed him as Investigator:

Check..d Luna n1, she's eit..er Lo..kout, Bla..kma.ler, or Fram..r. Che..ked Gorem..ncer tonig..t.

And so another day begins. Noone could feel safe here anymore. Especially Zane, the Town Leader, who was disturbed the most. He knew that the worst has yet to happen.

Graveyard:

Illidan (Debt Collector) - Found electrocuted in town hall (Night 0)
Raiden (Politician) - Found electrocuted in town hall (Night 0)
Elixir (Therapist) - Found incinerated in his own house (Night 0)
DarkRevenant (Witness Protector) - Found incinerated in his own house (Night 0)
FalseTruth (Skyper) - Found incinerated in his own house (Night 0)
Dimwit (Doctor) - Shot several times in the back inside his house(Night 1)
Rocshi (Veteran) - Executed in a jail cell (Night 1)
McPwnage (Sheriff) - Shot in the head by person with alias "V" (Night 2)
BBmolla (Investigator) - Drowned at bottom of the lake, his legs cemented (Night 2)

Current role list:

Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia

Electro Maniac
Arsonist
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral

Jailor
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Hidden Mafia roles: Consigliere, Consort, Framer, Blackmailer, Janitor, Mafioso
Hidden Neutral roles: Jester, Executioner, Witch, Survivor, Amnesiac
Hidden Town roles: Vigilante, Escort, Detective, Lookout, Bus Driver, Journalist, Bodyguard, Veteran, Armorsmith, Coroner, Mason


Player List:

Sumikoko
Kromos
wolfcheese
Deathfire123
Zane
Guardian
TheWaaagh
Dust
jaczac
RandomNumbers0
CmG
Borkbot
Nick
Luna
Zack
Goremancer

The Day 3 has began, you may begin your discussion. It takes 9 votes to lynch a person. Night 3 will begin in 24 hourse or when a player is lynched.

[Dust]

McPwnage was a vigilante kill?

[Kromos]

McPwnage made it painfully obvious he was sheriff by how angry he was at me :)

[Luna]

I was jailed last night. The Jailor wishes me to pass on a message (let me go find it quickly).

[Luna]

INFORMATION ROLES SHOULD GIVE THEIR RESULTS ON THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE: BBmolla, Luna, Dust, Guardian, Zane, Sumikoko, Nick

I HAVE DECIDED TO JAIL ONE OF THESE AND I NEED ALL THE INFORMATION POSSIBLE

[Dust]

It is just like googling myself. I want to learn what other people know about me

[Luna]

It surprises me that BBmolla was investigator, you'd think he would've led the mass-claim at the beginning and gone for Town Leader?

[Luna]

-vote Dust

Oh yeah and I want to keep true to my notes and vote Dust. You want to be top of my scum list, Captain, I shall oblige xD

Now I have to go watch more NFL, laters peeps (gz V btw, maybe it was a good thing Rocshi was a veteran, town killing roles aren't helping us much this game!)

[Luna]

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - Luna

[Dust]

Luna, how could you? Voting hurts.

Each vote is this to me "ouch. that hurts a lot"

Don't hurt me anymore

[Kromos]

I am the detective like I claimed yesterday. Deathfire is scum, he visited Dimwit.

vote Deathfire

[Dust]

I believe Kromos,

Vote Deathfire

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - Luna
Deathfire123 (2) - Kromos, Dust

[Nick]

Damn. A fail vigilante and a fail jailor. Town is self destructing. These two are potential LVP candidates.

[BorkBot]

Considering Zane's vote couldn't have been led by the sheriff nor the investigator, it's time to get rid of our mafia mayor before we can't even lynch scum anymore.

-vote Zane

[Dust]

Put the damn tally up

Vote Tally:

Dust (1) - Luna
Deathfire123 (2) - Kromos, Dust
Zane (1) - BorkBot

[Kromos]

Deathfire and Zane need to role claim or be destroyed.

[BorkBot]

Dust (1) - Luna
Deathfire123 (2) - Kromos, Dust
Zane (1) - BorkBot

I will NOT remove my vote from Zane unless he roleclaims. There's no guarantee anymore that anyone can find his allegiance.

[Dust]

Deathfire and Zane need to role claim or be destroyed.
I've been voted but you do not ask me to role-claim. Why?

[Nick]

Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Electro Maniac
Arsonist
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Jailor
Hidden Town - Vigilante
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

No Journalist.
No Bus Driver, Escort, Mason?

[Kromos]

I take it you claim lookout, Luna. What clues can you give us?

[Luna]

Sorry Dusty Boy ^^

-unvote Dusy
-vote Deathfire123



Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (1) - BorkBot


I'd like some pressure on Deathfire, as I suspect he could be a neutral killer.

[BorkBot]

There could still be an escort.

Kromos, were you bus driven night 1 as we suspected you were?

[Nick]

BBmolla is obvious town.

Vigilante is fail unless there is a Witch.

[Luna]

I take it you claim lookout, Luna. What clues can you give us?

Absolutely none.

And I don't claim Lookout Kromos, I claim nothing xD

$

[Dust]

BBmolla is obvious town.

Vigilante is fail unless there is a Witch.
McPwnage was the vigilante kill...

[Kromos]

Absolutely none.

And I don't claim Lookout Kromos, I claim nothing xD

$

In that case do you claim blackmailer or framer? You have 3 options unless ofc you were framed yourself.

[Kromos]

There could still be an escort.

Kromos, were you bus driven night 1 as we suspected you were?

I don't know about a bus driver but I was guarded both nights. That is the only action to happen to be at night.

[Luna]

I doubt there is a Blackmailer in this game from the looks of things, so there's a high chance of a Framer.

$

[Nick]

McPwnage was the vigilante kill...

My bad. Uum... why random kill McPwnage? Secondary objective. Kill 2 townies?

I'm going for bandwagon. We need a lynch. Success is 50-50.

vote Deathfire123

Deathfire123 (4) - Kromos, Dust, Luna, Nick
Zane (1) - BorkBot

[BorkBot]

Alright, then we have a bodyguard. Good to know. Hopefully the viglante won't shoot his target.

[BorkBot]

Guys, don't pile up too many votes on Deathfire. I want Zane to role claim. If we put 6 votes on Deathfire, all he has to do is hammer and not claim at all.

[Luna]

I think Zane hammering really early is information in itself

[Nick]

To lynch list:
1) Deathfire123
2) Zane
3) Luna
4) Lurkers - jaczac, RandomNumbers0, Guardian

[wolfcheese]

Luna is mafia. I will probably die soon but I am going to honor the investigator's death.

I am the lookout.

If you don't believe me, remember when I said this?


The only thing I have to say right now is that I think BBmolla may know more about Luna than he let on.

That's because I watched Luna night 1 and saw BBmolla visit her. I decided to watch BBmolla last night but unfortunately I picked the guy that the godfather went after :rolleyes: (though I can at least say no one else visited him).

-vote Luna

By the way, I was doused last night.

[Luna]

Nick, you aren't charged or doused right?

[Nick]

Nick, you aren't charged or doused right?

You mean Day2 or Day3?

[Kromos]

Luna is mafia. I will probably die soon but I am going to honor the investigator's death.

I am the lookout.

If you don't believe me, remember when I said this?



That's because I watched Luna night 1 and saw BBmolla visit her. I decided to watch BBmolla last night but unfortunately I picked the guy that the godfather went after :rolleyes: (though I can at least say no one else visited him).

-vote Luna

By the way, I was doused last night.

Ugh, bad role claim. There can be 2 lookouts you know and Luna didn't even claim lookout. Luna could easily have been framed which would give the inves the information for a random living mafia role (e.g. the framer)

[BorkBot]

Unless you guys are of course trying to skip the day ASAP again. In which case Dust/Nick/Luna are highly likely to be mafia.

And CmG pointed out yesterday that Guardian may have been Blackmailed. So that unlikely BM of yours doesn't hold up, Luna. Especially considering you say DF is likely to be a neutral killer while Dimwit was killed by the MAFIA.

And Kromos, why didn't you follow Deathfire again tonight to confirm your suspicions?

[wolfcheese]

Ugh, bad role claim. There can be 2 lookouts you know and Luna didn't even claim lookout. Luna could easily have been framed which would give the inves the information for a random living mafia role (e.g. the framer)
BBmolla was the only person to visit Luna, so she could not have been framed. She didn't even visit herself.

[Kromos]

I think anyone who is charged or doused should say now.

[Nick]

Problem is Guardian didn't even say "I'm blackmailed"

[Dust]

I think anyone who is charged or doused should say now.
Quoted because its true

[Luna]

Luna is mafia. I will probably die soon but I am going to honor the investigator's death.

I am the lookout.

If you don't believe me, remember when I said this?



That's because I watched Luna night 1 and saw BBmolla visit her. I decided to watch BBmolla last night but unfortunately I picked the guy that the godfather went after :rolleyes: (though I can at least say no one else visited him).

-vote Luna

By the way, I was doused last night.

I think your move was too bold - lynching me will certainly mean Town does NOT have a numerical majority, and the chance of many more deaths tonight is high, but you overplayed your hand early.

I don't even think you're a framer (with no investigator there was no need for the framer to accuse me as he can't be checked).

Needless to say, I am the Lookout. wolfcheese knows that by lynching me, the Town is pretty much done for with very little in the way of investigative roles left :S

-vote Wolfcheese

[Kromos]

BBmolla was the only person to visit Luna, so she could not have been framed. She didn't even visit herself.

Ok but she could still be a second lookout or you are lying.

[wolfcheese]

Ok but she could still be a second lookout or you are lying.
She could be, but sure isn't willing to share any results (unless she had even worse luck than I did).

[Nick]

Wait a minute...

Godfather cannot be detected. And I don't think they will bother sending a lackey...

unvote Deathfire123

I will let him talk first.

vote Zane

Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (2) - BorkBot, Nick

[Luna]

2 lookouts, technically possible... but I still think it could be a mafia ploy.

Framers wouldn't appear to a Lookout if one did visit me, but BBmolla did say he checked me out.

[Luna]

She could be, but sure isn't willing to share any results (unless she had even worse luck than I did).

I observed Nick night 1 and no one visited him, which was why I wondered if he was doused or charged.

[Kromos]

She could be, but sure isn't willing to share any results (unless she had even worse luck than I did).

I find it odd that you didn't observe me considering I was the most likely to be charged / doused / attacked. I think I agree with Luna that you are mafia but Deathfire is a more definitive choice atm.

[Dust]

Deathfire123 (2) - Kromos, Dust
Zane (2) - BorkBot, Nick
Wolfcheese (1) - Luna

[Luna]

Some response from Zane would be great right about now, if Zane isn't Town then we've already lost vote majority.

[Nick]

Vigilante should tout his gun and force everyone to reveal.

I hope Fragos will extend the day. Timezone problems.

[wolfcheese]

you overplayed your hand early.
Probably, but as I said I was doused last night. If the arson has two people doused now, I will die tonight in most likeliness.

I do not have much to lose.


I find it odd that you didn't observe me
I figured you would be a night kill. The only people I can really find are the arson and electromaniac, I was hoping one of them would go after BBmolla.

[BorkBot]

Ugh, bad role claim. There can be 2 lookouts you know and Luna didn't even claim lookout. Luna could easily have been framed which would give the inves the information for a random living mafia role (e.g. the framer)
Except Luna probably isn't a lookout. My guess is Blackmailer.

Kromos' claim doesn't prove anything because the GF killed Dimwit as well and he wouldn't be able to follow Deathfire if he was the killer. It's possible that Deathfire is arsonist/electromaniac, but he could be any power role other than bodyguard/invest/sheriff/doc.

I think it's BS that neither the detective nor the lookout can follow the GF, but whatever.

Looks like Luna's a good lynch. Still, I want to hear from Zane. Please allow Deathfire to speak in his defense too. He likely won't be on for a few more hours.

NOTE THAT LUNA CAN'T BE FRAMED. Framer isn't detection immune and wolfcheese would have seen him.

[Luna]

I figured you would be a night kill. The only people I can really find are the arson and electromaniac, I was hoping one of them would go after BBmolla.

So why did you observe me?

$

[Kromos]

I was hoping one of them would go after BBmolla.

You said you checked Luna not BBmolla...

[wolfcheese]

So why did you observe me?

$
Because you were nice enough to vote for me the first day. ;)

[wolfcheese]

You said you checked Luna not BBmolla...
Night 1 was Luna, night 2 was BBmolla.

[Nick]

Mafia is very good at reading between the lines. They suspected that BBmolla might be investigator because of him demanding role claims. I think that there are high caliber people in mafia.

Possible suspects (FM veterans): Zack, Deathfire123, Zane

[Kromos]

Because you were nice enough to vote for me the first day. ;)

I think wolfcheese of full of shit. Luna is a much more convincing lookout imo and we should be focusing on deathfire first as well

[Luna]

Because you were nice enough to vote for me the first day. ;)

Aww now I'm voting you again for less nice reasons :(

Who is your Godfather?

[Nick]

If Deathfire123 is Electromaniac or Arsonist, I want to keep him alive for a while. I'll try to get Mafia first.

[Kromos]

My Scum List

Deathfire123
wolfcheese
Zane
CmG

[Dust]

If Deathfire123 is Electromaniac or Arsonist, I want to keep him alive for a while. I'll try to get Mafia first.
If deathfire is one of the neutral killers. I bet nick is the other one because of this post

[Nick]

Kromos. What do you think Deathfire123 is?

[Dust]

Question: Why am I not considered scum anymore?

[Luna]

Question: Why am I not considered scum anymore?

Because I just saw the end of Pirates of the Caribbean and Jack Sparrow is actually a nice man

[Nick]

Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia
Electro Maniac
Arsonist
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral
Jailor
Hidden Town - Vigilante
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

No Journalist.
No Bus Driver, Escort, Mason?

Role claims:

Detective: Kromos
Lookout: Luna
Lookout: wolfcheese
Citizen: BorkBot

[Kromos]

Kromos. What do you think Deathfire123 is?

He could be the arsonist as no one said they were doused on day 2. He could also be the mafia member sent to kill Dimwit if the gf was blocked. When I accused him he denied even visiting Dimwit and voted for me so i think he must be scum.

[BorkBot]

Wolfcheese is not full of shit.

He pointed out that he knew that BBMolla visited Luna on the first night. He also voted along with BBMolla because he believed he might have discovered something. How would he know that if he wasn't a lookout?

Note that if a Framer had visited Luna, wolfcheese wouldn't have seen BBMolla visit her.

She was not framed. And earlier in the thread she said there was probably a framer.. now she's suddenly lookout. Really, wtf :p

I smell scum.

And Dust, you're still scummy too :p

[Dust]

I smell scum.

And Dust, you're still scummy too :p
Thank you

[Luna]

I said there was probably a framer because it looks like there is no blackmailer.

Now having two lookouts in the setup and no blackmailers or framers... highly unlikely, but Fragos could be royally fucking with our heads.

I don't believe it though. Oh and Borkbot, I have my own special theories about you...

[Kromos]

Wolfcheese is not full of shit.

He pointed out that he knew that BBMolla visited Luna on the first night. He also voted along with BBMolla because he believed he might have discovered something. How would he know that if he wasn't a lookout?


He only pointed this out after BBmolla's last will. Instead of proving wolfcheese's claim this makes it look even more doubtful as all he had to do was read BBmolla's lw.

[Nick]

Luna is also acting suspicious by posting spam. When town is in deep trouble. I would have to agree with BorkBot.

[Fragos]

Please correct your vote tally. You did not include wolfcheese's vote

[Luna]

Borkbot, my main suspicion of you is this: You went for the Citizen play, then you went for the Mason play. Now, I know what kind of things you think about in setups; in a Town with 3 mafia, 2 neutral killers, 2 other neutrals and only 3 citizens, did you think a Mason was likely? My guess is - no, you didn't.

I think you engineered a cunning play to make yourself look like a citizen by being the only claim, establish yourself as one by claiming masoned, and giving yourself a chance to backpeddle by claiming it was a play to help Town. I think you are the Godfather, pretty pleased that the investigator is dead even though he would have validated your claim as Citizen.

[Luna]

Luna is also acting suspicious by posting spam. When town is in deep trouble. I would have to agree with BorkBot.

My dear boy, you have been the one posting spam ^^ I visited you night 1 because I was certain you'd be visited by at least 1 killer.

[BorkBot]

Yes Kromos, but he did vote along with BBMolla yesterday and he did state that he thought BBMolla might have found something, which he did.

It makes perfect sense. Wolfcheese is either lookout or he deserves MVP for setting up a trustworthy lookout claim without even knowing what BBMolla was.

I think your own detective claim is far less likely to be true because you saw Deathfire visit a dead target who got killed by someone else. You are an executioner in my eyes until you can reveal more visits from people.

And Luna, your theory about me is BS and you know it. Would I really claim citizen on day 1 with the risk of masons checking me out? I take risks yes, but that would just be screwing my team over IF I had been on the mafia. Which I'm not.

[Luna]

Meh I want to come off my computer and finish watching this game, this day has had quite an exciting start on the whole.

My vote still stands, I still think wolfcheese has deliberately gunned for me knowing that we don't have any way of validating our claims without wasting more town resources and directing traffic.

Mafia knows that they can afford to spare one of their players, especially since Town will soon lose vote majority and their Godfather is fairly safe from night kills.

Now I really am off, I've stated my case and suspicions and we see where the dice come down :)

[Kromos]

Yes Kromos, but he did vote along with BBMolla yesterday and he did state that he thought BBMolla might have found something, which he did.

It makes perfect sense. Wolfcheese is either lookout or he deserves MVP for setting up a trustworthy lookout claim without even knowing what BBMolla was.

I think your own detective claim is far less likely to be true because you saw Deathfire visit a dead target who got killed by someone else. You are an executioner in my eyes until you can reveal more visits from people.

And Luna, your theory about me is BS and you know it. Would I really claim citizen on day 1 with the risk of masons checking me out? I take risks yes, but that would just be screwing my team over IF I had been on the mafia. Which I'm not.

These are my night actions.

Night 1 - Deathfire123 visited Dimwit
Night 2 - BBmolla visited Goremancer

As you can see I didn't get anything useful from last night.

[Dust]

ZANE IS HERE!

[Nick]

Curses. Everyone's claim is full of holes. I don't even know where to start.

[Nick]

I'm 2 hours past my bedtime. See you tomorrow.

[Dust]

I think the question that we have to ask is this: Would Fragos put in doubles of a role?

[BorkBot]

Alright Kromos, I'm interested in your night 3 action. Because that night 2 action is kind of convenient (and wolfcheese's choice to watch someone he suspected of being an investigator or sheriff makes more sense than yours).

I think the bodyguard should be on wolfcheese, since he's probably the most trustworthy townsperson alive at this point. Unless Zane reveals and proves himself a town role who hasn't been charged yet.

Besides all this business, I wonder if

[BorkBot]

Meh, cut off by an accidental key press :p

I wonder if Sumikoko has anything interesting, non-cryptic to say today.

[Dust]

Is Fragos evil enough to do this to us?

Does he think that this would make it interesting?

More questions that help to answer the bigger question

[Dust]

Do you know what the answer to the Question is?

Its in the next post

[Dust]

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[Dust]

Zane, impart to us your infinite wisdom even though we cannot hope to comprehend it.

[Zane]

I still believe that my lynch on Sumikoko was good. She is doing nothing else than "blabla bs blablabla bs".
Kromos confuses me like always, I put him in the jester box or mafia.

I am the greatest town banana that ever existed. It's funny that I'm being focused when some townies die.

And I need to read the other days again.

[BorkBot]

Also as a belated rebuttal to Luna's "unlikely mason" nonsense. There were 6 hidden town PRs, 11 possible roles and noone except masons would be able to confirm a Godfather find. Plus there were some citizens that could be recruited. Yes, I did think it very likely that there would be masons. And it sucks that there aren't any because now we're stuck with one lookout, a lying blackmailer/framer and an executioner who claims to be a detective as our only investigative roles. Lol.

[Dust]

Your great wisdom astounds us. Peradventure your wisdom could grace our unworthy ears.

[Kromos]

I still believe that my lynch on Sumikoko was good. She is doing nothing else than "blabla bs blablabla bs".
Kromos confuses me like always, I put him in the jester box or mafia.

I am the greatest town banana that ever existed. It's funny that I'm being focused when some townies die.

And I need to read the other days again.

Thanks for the input Zane, I guess you will be disappearing for the rest of the day npw. I wonder why you have never been attacked, charged or doused, especially as there is no doc now.

[BorkBot]

Zane, the reason we're suspecting you was your lynch on Sumikoko without any arguments mentioned and some suspicious individuals electing you for Town Leader on the first day.

As well as the loss of our investigator. We need to know what side you're on.

[Dust]

Perhaps his majesty would grace our ears with the sound of his role.

[Kromos]

Also as a belated rebuttal to Luna's "unlikely mason" nonsense. There were 6 hidden town PRs, 11 possible roles and noone except masons would be able to confirm a Godfather find. Plus there were some citizens that could be recruited. Yes, I did think it very likely that there would be masons. And it sucks that there aren't any because now we're stuck with one lookout, a lying blackmailer/framer and an executioner who claims to be a detective as our only investigative roles. Lol.

I think it strange that you are so sure that I am an executioner. Most people thought Deathfire was suspicious before I accused him. He is been lurking all game and was extremely defensive when I accused him. You don't need to be a PR to work out that he is scum.

You are now on my scum list as the godfather, you have been defending Deathfire and wolfcheese way too much for a citizen that cannot find out anything at night. I am starting to believe Luna's idea about you.

[CmG]

Hi guys!, Luna Bm until Guardian posts somebody today. Dust doesn't know if his mafia pal gets lynched today so he tries to be neutral. Remember his post about the butter zone thats where he revealed his strategy for this M-FM.

Laters guy oh btw Deathfire Town. byebye

[Dust]

Hi guys!, Luna Bm until Guardian posts somebody today. Dust doesn't know if his mafia pal gets lynched today so he tries to be neutral. Remember his post about the butter zone thats where he revealed his strategy for this M-FM.

Laters guy oh btw Deathfire Town. byebye
Good to know someone is thinking

[CmG]

fixed:


Hi guys!, Luna Bm until Guardian posts something today. Dust doesn't know if his mafia pal gets lynched today so he tries to be neutral. Remember his post about the butter zone thats where he revealed his strategy for this M-FM.

Laters guy oh btw Deathfire Town. byebye

[CmG]

Good to know someone is thinking

not sure if troll öÖ

[Dust]

not sure if troll öÖ
Scum. That is what I am.

[Kromos]

Hi guys!, Luna Bm until Guardian posts somebody today. Dust doesn't know if his mafia pal gets lynched today so he tries to be neutral. Remember his post about the butter zone thats where he revealed his strategy for this M-FM.

Laters guy oh btw Deathfire Town. byebye

If Guardian was blackmailed he would have posted "I am blackmailed" yesterday. He did not so it is obvious that he is lurking and hasn't been blackmailed. Please illuminate us on why Deathfire is town. Remember that you are on my scum list as well.

[Zane]

In my eyes CmG & Luna & Nick are mafia. But that's just guessing.

I won't reveal my role. I am not the moustache.

[Dust]

Zane, What am I in your eyes?

[Zane]

A troll.

-vote Luna

Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (2) - BorkBot, Nick
Luna (3) - Zane

[Kromos]

I can now narrow down who are the mafia:

BorkBot - Godfather
wolfcheese - Framer (or second lookout)
Deathfire123 - Mafioso

Other suspicious people (the neutrals):

CmG (mafia if wolfcheese is the lookout)
Zane
Dust

[BorkBot]

Kromos: I never said that Deathfire is not scummy. It just doesn't make sense that you didn't check him a second time to see his next target as the first didn't teach you anything whatsoever. Except that he's not a janitor.

Your "sheriff" Mcpwnage: "BS!" then your "ok I'm detective" stuff from yesterday just doesn't make your information very reliable.

You could be a detective, but you haven't proven it yet. And I'm not voting to lynch deathfire because if you are an executioner after all, Deathfire has to be a townie.

The reason why I'm speaking up loudly in defense of wolfcheese is because I don't trust you and Luna and I don't want you to run this joint. We've already lost too many important town players and one lynch of a townie means it's game over. A mafia member needs to die today.


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[Dust]

I'm not neutral.

[CmG]

If Guardian was blackmailed he would have posted "I am blackmailed" yesterday. He did not so it is obvious that he is lurking and hasn't been blackmailed. Please illuminate us on why Deathfire is town. Remember that you are on my scum list as well.

reread his post and think about some town roles he could be. While reading. I am sure you will find something.

There is still a possibility of a witch or a Busdriver. Blackmailed target got swapped with guardian who is mafia or evil neutral. Blackmailer got witched and hit a evil neutral or mafia.

Luna thinks Kromos is the executioner and she did a slip up yesterday where she looked like a hidden neutral herself or like she knows who the other evil neutral is... Because she is the blackmailer who got witched.

Ez mode.

now laters

[CmG]

I can now narrow down who are the mafia:

BorkBot - Godfather
wolfcheese - Framer (or second lookout)
Deathfire123 - Mafioso

Other suspicious people (the neutrals):

CmG (mafia if wolfcheese is the lookout)
Zane
Dust


You clearly are the executioner now for fishing Mafia votes against Deathfire. :D

[CmG]

vote Luna

[Fragos]

You forgot to include wolfcheese's vote.

Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (2) - BorkBot, Nick
Luna (5) - Zane, wolfcheese, CmG

[Zane]

I want to change my opinion a bit.

For now BorkBot and Luna are mafia in my eyes.

[wolfcheese]

I think wolfcheese of full of shit. Luna is a much more convincing lookout imo and we should be focusing on deathfire first as well

Of course you think that cause i didnt waste a night watching you. Seriously when you explicitly asked for a lookout, you made yourself the worst lookout target and the neutrals wouldnt risk going to you. That is beside the fact that you are untrustworthy especially after taking me and gore for a run with your "im detective but not really" show.

Trying to do this on a phone is a bad idea so ill wait until later to continue.

[Deathfire123]

Hi guys. I'm here, but I won't be for much longer, Christmas party with some friends (got another one on the 22nd just as a heads up, and the 21st I'm making a pie, so I'll still contribute but not like shitloads) Anyways. Kromos, it is painfully obvious you are either an Executioner or a Jester or some sort of neutral, because I don't think, the mafia would be stupid enough not to send their godfather when he A: Can't be tracked/invested in any way, B: Immune to night kills, so safe from the Veteran, and C: (not sure bout this one) Can't be role blocked. If he can, all three of the members can be role blocked, so the only sane option should be the godfather.

This proves, that not only am I NOT a mafia member (as you think), you are also NOT a detective.

[Deathfire123]

Also, Luna, I'm sorry, but you need to play scum better :(

-vote Luna

Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (2) - BorkBot, Nick
Luna (6) - Zane, wolfcheese, CmG, Deathfire123

[BorkBot]

Guys, I just found incriminating evidence against Luna. Yes, I know I'm a citizen, but take a look at this bit posted by her:


Mafia knows that they can afford to spare one of their players, especially since Town will soon lose vote majority and their Godfather is fairly safe from night kills

She is literally suggesting that she should be sacrificed so a certain someone gains trust from the town.

Now remember the following quote from Zack in the FAQ:

Lookout/Framer/Blackmailer = 99% lynch, no defense will work. Worse than the previous one really.


Zane only utters more BS and votes Luna, because he agrees to her terms. Everyone thinks Luna is scum (even executioner Kromos, who's just making his allegiance to the mafia known right now) and by voting to lynch Luna, Zane is trying to make himself less suspicious while going ALONG with Luna stating that I (a claimed citizen) am probably the GF.

Very convenient that Luna voted to elect me on day one, which was basically a frame because she expected an investigator to check her out at some point and she was pretty sure that Zane was going to win that election anyway (before my eternity buddies - may they rest in peace - joined the election vote on me and made me a contender).

Seeing a whole bunch of people pointing me out as Godfather now makes me quite sure that it was part of their plan to do so in night chat.

Regardless of how this makes me look (I figured out what Luna was getting at and by voting her I'm basically doing the same as Zane), I'll jump on the Luna band wagon and hopefully we can make her sacrifice in vain. Either way, she needs to die.

-unvote Zane
-vote Luna

Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (2) - Nick
Luna (7) - Zane, wolfcheese, CmG, Deathfire, BorkBot

[Deathfire123]

Deathfire123 (3) - Kromos, Dust, Luna
Zane (1) - Nick
Luna (7) - Zane, wolfcheese, CmG, Deathfire, BorkBot

fix'd

[Deathfire123]

Oh right, Dust is mafia/neutral killer this time. He'd be using logic otherwise.

[BorkBot]

At present, my roles prediction is as follows:

Luna: Framer/Blackmailer
Zane: Godfather
Dust: Consigliere

Kromos: Executioner
Sumikoko: Arsonist
Zack: Electromaniac

[Sumikoko]

Here is my breakdown on all the people I find suspicious as someone not the Mafia, because Sumi really needs to go write her college essays and cannot check this this thread every 5 minutes. Probably will have to check in 2 hour intervals. These are mostly my observations. I have not pieced together the pieces yet, so if you townies want to do that, go ahead.

Zane, as Borkbot said, voted me on Day 2 without any reason and it was prior to me saying anything that day. I'm afraid that does not make sense at all. Yes, I will willingly admit I did my share of trolling on Day 1, but that was after his mayor-ship had pretty much been finalized. This, you can check for yourself. I do not believe he's the Mafia I'm not, however. A neutral killing role though, I can imagine, though I have no solid proof on this.

I do feel Luna is indeed suspicious as the Mafia I'm not. I have nothing to add to her other than what you guys have already said.
-vote Luna

Now, Kromos. He is by far the least credible in my eyes. I would have written him off as the Mafia I'm not except for the reasons Bork provided that he's executioner, which also makes a lot of sense. He is indeed constantly diverting attention to Deathfire since Day2. He said Day 1 (from the first half of the day, cause I got tired of reading after that lol) that he did not want the position of mayor. However, he did not seem to mind it when people started piling votes on him and demanded that a credible person should only be one that role claims, which essentially, is asking for role claims. He claimed Sheriff Day 1, and said not many people would believe him if he were indeed not the Sheriff. Well. He was right.

I feel as if there's a connection between Luna and Kromos. On Day 1 (I didn't bother reading Day 2 again), for at least the first couple of pages, they said almost the exact same thing right after each other. Even eventually shifting both their "trust" on Bork being the citizen. Today, Kromos is defending Luna with the viewpoint that Wolf is the Mafia I'm not, and it's very hard to believe Wolf is, based on his words (unless you have a master strategist in the Mafia I'm not telling Wolf what to say the next day). The two of them seems a little too buddy buddy with each other in my eyes.

Bork said something that amused me. I don't quite believe he's the Mafia I'm not, but inconclusive on this one. My first instinct would be to believe him though.

I don't believe CmG is the Mafia I'm not either. He may be a neutral killer though.

I am extremely wary of Dust as well. He, as CmG said, gave a lot of steam to the train that wanted to lynch me yesterday. He said he would offer his analysis of me, which I was dying to hear, and almost did. And the best he could offer was that I did not see him as scum, which I do now, and that I was riding "under the radar," which, if you townies thought I was doing that yesterday, then we have different definitions of what would be going under the radar, or lurking, as it's most commonly called. I bugged him about it, and afterward, he just ignored me.

Okay, whew, essay writing time. Cutting too close to the deadline.

[Kromos]

I can see Deathfire won't be lynched today so I will get more proof tonight. I didn't check him on night 2 because I didn't think there was any point wasting another night on him as he is obviously scum. I underestimated the town's intelligence and that was a mistake.

I will join your vote on Luna if you all think she is guilty but if I am to die tonight you must remember to lynch Deathfire the following day. I can ask the bg to protect me again but I'm not so sure I will get his support this time. I will leave my night actions in my lw just in case.

vote Luna

[Kromos]

Deathfire123 (2) - Dust, Luna
Zane (1) - Nick
Luna (9) - Zane, wolfcheese, CmG, Deathfire, BorkBot, Sumikoko, Kromos

I just hammered right?

[Sumikoko]

Oh gosh, this soon into the day? Has the jailer even made preparations to jail yet...?

[CmG]

Hopefully not if you did you are giving our 4 Lurkers again another day they slipped away.

[BorkBot]

Kromos, if you are the detective you claim to be, you may want to consider following wolfcheese if Luna turns out to be mafia.

If you declare your finds before wolfcheese speaks, you can clear yourself. Might be worth considering. Deathfire is still a good detective target as well. Up to you.

Sorry for posting after the hammer :p

[Kromos]

I didn't realise I was the hammer vote. I would have waited longer if I had known.

[BorkBot]

Jailor: Can jail only if there was no lynch, or if there were 2 consecutive lynches. Can jail on first night. Executing ignores immunities, and the captive will be roleblocked and protected for that night. Can make only 2 executions.


No problem, sumi.

[CmG]

@ Host ending the day now is not fair for the US Players.

[CmG]

Deathfire123 (2) - Dust, Luna
Zane (1) - Nick
Luna (9) - Zane, wolfcheese, CmG, Deathfire, BorkBot, Sumikoko, Kromos

I just hammered right?

I didn't realise I was the hammer vote. I would have waited longer if I had known.


hurr durr herp derp

[CmG]

Jailor: Can jail only if there was no lynch, or if there were 2 consecutive lynches. Can jail on first night. Executing ignores immunities, and the captive will be roleblocked and protected for that night. Can make only 2 executions.


No problem, sumi.

she means she hopes the jailor was on at Daytime to send his target to the host u fool!

[Kromos]

hurr durr herp derp

I only realised after I posted the vote. I didn't even read Sumi's post before I posted mine so I thought the vote was still at 7.

[TheWaaagh]

Hey guys, so I just finished reading the thread and then saw Kromos hammered a lynch in mega early. I really feel like we need to take care of him either tonight or tomorrow.

Sumi, the jailor can't jail and lynch in this game, so it doesn't matter. Though it's still odd that Kromos rushed the hammer like that.

CmG, I'm pretty sure there's no reason to not use the blackmailer if the mafia have one. The only strategic use I could of in keeping the role a secret would be to use it at a later date when there's less people, but then you'd essentially be telling the rest of the town that this one guy is innocent. So I think we can safely rule that out.

I find two things interesting about last night, one being that no one visited me (not even a charge or a douse) I thought for sure something was going to happen after I grilled Sumi. But nothing. The other thing that I find interesting is that Sumi survived despite saying out loud that she was an important town role.

And I'm pretty sure wolfcheese is the real lookout, if for no other reason than the fact that yesterday BBMolla was one of only a few people to say Luna was scum, and then he ends up dead today. This could be an elaborate setup, but wolfcheese hasn't really done anything shady yet in my eyes, whereas Luna's been acting like a troll on and off.

[Deathfire123]

I can see Deathfire won't be lynched today so I will get more proof tonight. I didn't check him on night 2 because I didn't think there was any point wasting another night on him as he is obviously scum. I underestimated the town's intelligence and that was a mistake.

I will join your vote on Luna if you all think she is guilty but if I am to die tonight you must remember to lynch Deathfire the following day. I can ask the bg to protect me again but I'm not so sure I will get his support this time. I will leave my night actions in my lw just in case.


Why would they do that when it would show you being the executioner

[Kromos]

CmG, why do you think Deathfire is town? You never answered me.

@TheWaaagh

How do you know no one visited you?

[Kromos]

Why would they do that when it would show you being the executioner

Good question, Deathfire. I think people can work that out for themselves.

[Deathfire123]

CmG, why do you think Deathfire is town? You never answered me.

@TheWaaagh

How do you know no one visited you?

I'd say because you are pretty piss poor at playing executioner

[TheWaaagh]

@TheWaaagh

How do you know no one visited you?

I wasn't role-blocked, doused, charged, healed, attacked, protected, switched, or controlled. So someone might've stalked me last night, but I wouldn't know about that.

[CmG]

I'd say because you are pretty piss poor at playing executioner

Because you are clearly the executioner or mafia and both want to see town dead.

@ TheWaaagh when did you become so dumb?
I never said anywhere that the Blackmailer would not use his ability. I said he got witched or other things happened like Busdriver driving.

[Deathfire123]

Edit: Question answered

[BorkBot]

I think so. Unless Kromos was bluffing about the bodyguard thing.

TheWaaagh: or maybe you were investigated by Dust the Consigliere.

[Dust]

I think so. Unless Kromos was bluffing about the bodyguard thing.

TheWaaagh: or maybe you were investigated by Dust the Consigliere.
Perhaps he was...

[TheWaaagh]

Because you are clearly the executioner or mafia and both want to see town dead.

@ TheWaaagh when did you become so dumb?
I never said anywhere that the Blackmailer would not use his ability. I said he got witched or other things happened like Busdriver driving.

I think the question CmG, is when did you become so dumb. The only way your theory works that a blackmailer is out there is if they haven't been using their ability. If the blackmailer was witched or his victim was switched via a busdriver, someone would still get blackmailed. There's literally no reason to not say "I've been blackmailed". Because, even if you're a member of the mafia, being legitimately blackmailed by accident will make you look innocent to the rest of the town.

If you actually take two seconds to think about it, you'll see that the odds of a blackmailer existing are pretty damn low. Unless the targets hit so far have been dumbasses and didn't know they could say "I've been blackmailed" or whatever the phrase is.

[BorkBot]

Thewaaagh:
It does work for one specific role. A blackmailed Witch might not make it known.

[Dust]

I've been blackmailed

[Deathfire123]

Thewaaagh:
It does work for one specific role. A blackmailed Witch might not make it known.

Suggesting Guardian is witch now?

[BorkBot]

I lold :p

Dust is a Consigliere Jester Pirate.

[BorkBot]

Deathfire, I wasn't suggesting anything. I only said that it was possible for someone who was blackmailed not to say anything about it because it's beneficial to them.

This was the same scenario CmG suggested before, I believe.

[Dust]

I lold :p

Dust is Captain Consigliere Jester Pirate.
Fix'd

[TheWaaagh]

Thewaaagh:
It does work for one specific role. A blackmailed Witch might not make it known.

Wait, you're going to have to explain that one to me. If a witch was blackmailed it would prove they're not mafia, and likely keep the town off their back for a while. Why wouldn't they want to do that?

[BorkBot]

Because the mafia would know that their blackmailed target could be a potential ally. Someone they shouldn't kill.

More witches die to the mafia than to lynches. At least that's how it is in SC2, heh.

[Deathfire123]

Deathfire, I wasn't suggesting anything. I only said that it was possible for someone who was blackmailed not to say anything about it because it's beneficial to them.

This was the same scenario CmG suggested before, I believe.

I think it's pretty obvious Guardian has been blackmailed twice now.

[Deathfire123]

OMG I JUST HAD A BRAIN BLAST!

Zane didn't color his vote red and bold, does it still count?

[Dust]

I think it's pretty obvious Guardian has been blackmailed twice now.
He knows that guardian has been blackmailed and it trying to say that it is obvious

[Dust]

Deathfire123 = Mafia

[Dust]

I proved it

[Fragos]

The votes are locked on Luna. She is about to be lynched soon. I have a choice of either lynching her now, or go to sleep and wait for 10 more hours before starting Night 3. Make up with your choice.

[Deathfire123]

Deathfire123 = Mafia

Dust=Blackmailer.

[Dust]

uuuuuuh. Lynch her now is my vote

[Deathfire123]

The votes are locked on Luna. She is about to be lynched soon. I have a choice of either lynching her now, or go to sleep and wait for 10 more hours before starting Night 3. Make up with your choice.
-vote 10 more hours (fair for US+CANADA)
10 hours (1) : Deathfire123
Now (1) - Dust

[Dust]

Its completely fair for the americans. I'm american and I say that we lynch her now

[TheWaaagh]

Yeah I'd rather have 10 more hours, it'd suck if someone has important information that they didn't get to share just because we jumped the gun.

vote 10 more hours


10 hours (2) : Deathfire123, TheWaaagh
End Early (1): Dust

[Dust]

You two are no fun...

[Fragos]

Personally I want to stay on the "mini" accent on the Forum Mafia, and proceed to lynch now. If you want to comply some more, you will have 10 more minites while I am preparing to show you her last will.

[Dust]

CmG is a genius:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bEBbu-wkKrs

[Zack]

I am blackmailed :push:

Really, not lying, I can't type anything. You are imagining this extra text, entirely.

BorkBot thinks i'm electro, just because I have this electic guitar doesn't mean I electrify people with it! Terribly rude I must say.

Hey driver, don't start the engine yet k? I'm not ready for the long drive home.

[Deathfire123]

Personally I want to stay on the "mini" accent on the Forum Mafia, and proceed to lynch now. If you want to comply some more, you will have 10 more minites while I am preparing to show you her last will.

Fine

[Dust]

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/5100000/funny-pic-pirates-of-the-caribbean-5115618-500-462.jpg
Some shameless advertising

[Fragos]

Time surely goes fast. While performing the discussions, the people haven't noticed the sunset. Eventually, with the assistance of the Town Leader, the towndecided to lynch Luna today. Zane decided to use an insteresting method of execution. Zane, wolfcheese, CmG, Deathfire, BorkBot, Kromos and Sumikoko were each given a gun and the Town Leader said that only one of then has a loaded gun; the rest of the have blank shot. Everyone standed into position, then Zane asked Luna: "Would you like to speak some last words?"

And so, Luna began speaking her final words, full with inspiration:

Well everyone, yes indeed I was the Framer.

The Jailor is Dust. I figured my mafia buddies would like to know that xD

Well it was fun, and you'll never guess who my mafia buddies were, that's just how I roll. I go down in a blaze of confusion, Lionel-style.

I also know who the neutrals are (not the killers), and what they are. Your secrets are safe with me.

No wonder BBmolla kept gunning for me day 2, when your result is "Lookout, Framer of Blackmailer" you'll go for the lynch every time, even if you get a lookout as collateral damage.

Obviously Borkbot is not the Godfather, I just randomly came up with that but it was worth a try eh? ^^

To my mafia buddies; make sure to keep an eye on Deathfire123.

And to wolfcheese, I WILL COME DOWN UPON YOU LIKE THE GUST OF A THOUSAND WINDS ^^


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhn7xqtCAeA

After Luna finished her speech, seven men (well six me and one woman) aimed their guns at Luna and started shooting.
BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! All shots hit Luna at the same time and she died almost immediately.
As it later turned out, all seven guns were really loaded with bullets. In responce of the surpised town, Zane said that it was "security measures".

Now that one of the Mafia Family is dead, will be there a road to peace?

The Day 3 is over, you cannot post here anymore. You now can submit Night 3 actions to me. You will have 24 hours as usual.

[Fragos]

Also, for 10 more hours, I won't respond to your actions. Good night.

[Fragos]

As of now, all night actions were submitted. I will relay the results to you soon. The Day 4 however, will start at the same time as Day 3, so keep that in mind.