Mini-FM II: Day 2/Night 2 - Burden of Leadership

[Fragos]

Zane has been succesfully elected as newTown Leader. However, he knew that with great power also comes great responcibility. He also knew that should he make one misstep, he would be easily killed by his yet unknown enemies. And the first day of his work as Town Leader is already going to be rough...

Dimwit was found dead in his house. It appears that he was riddled by bullets from behind. Apparently, he never expected that he would die, so he didn't left any last will. He was the town's only Doctor.

It looks like someone have decided to carry judgement on his own. Rocshi was found dead in a jail house. He was executed inside the gas chamber. He was a deranged war Veteran. Before his death, he had written his last will, which was also found after checking his body:

O, that this too too solid flesh would melt
Thaw and resolve itself into a dew!
Or that the Everlasting had not fix'd
His canon 'gainst self-slaughter! O God! God!
How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable,
Seem to me all the uses of this world!

If I am actually executed, I will laugh so hard at whoever the fuck the jailor is. Tried to manipulate a newbie into following some weird complex strat that had so many holes that it would have just gotten me lynched instead.
Anyway, this was an interesting experience.

I bid you adieu.

The rest of town felt thenselves unease at first, but then they have remembered that they have a person they could rely on - the Town Leader. Zane already realized that it would be very hard and dangerous work, but he nevertheless acknowledged himself as new Town Leader and decided to gather the rest of the town himself to continue the forum. Now that they gathered once again, the time has come to the first judgement day.

Graveyard:

Illidan (Debt Collector) - Found electrocuted in town hall (Night 0)
Raiden (Politician) - Found electrocuted in town hall (Night 0)
Elixir (Therapist) - Found incinerated in his own house (Night 0)
DarkRevenant (Witness Protector) - Found incinerated in his own house (Night 0)
FalseTruth (Skyper) - Found incinerated in his own house (Night 0)
Dimwit (Doctor) - Shot several times in the back inside his house(Night 1)
Rocshi (Veteran) - Executed in a jail cell (Night 1)

Current role list:

Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia

Electro Maniac
Arsonist
Hidden Neutral
Hidden Neutral

Sheriff
Investigator
Jailor
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Hidden Mafia roles: Consigliere, Consort, Framer, Blackmailer, Janitor, Mafioso
Hidden Neutral roles: Jester, Executioner, Witch, Survivor, Amnesiac
Hidden Town roles: Vigilante, Escort, Detective, Lookout, Bus Driver, Journalist, Bodyguard, Veteran, Armorsmith, Coroner, Mason


Player List:

BBmola
Sumikoko
Kromos
wolfcheese
Deathfire123
Zane
Guardian
TheWaaagh
Dust
jaczac
RandomNumbers0
CmG
Borkbot
McPwnage
Nick
Luna
Zack
Goremancer

The Day 2 has began, you may begin your discussion. It takes 10 votes to lynch a person. Night 2 will begin in 24 hourse or when a player is lynched.

Also, if you look at Mini-FM II FAQ thread again, you may find out that some role options have changed.

[Zane]

Good morning and yes I know I have great responsibility now. I will do everything to give you bananas.

[Nick]

Sad. M-FMII jailor trying to copy M-FMI jailor. Result is fail.

[Nick]

Anyone who is charged should reveal now.

[Kromos]

I suggest you use your action on me again. Otherwise I will probably be dead :)

[Kromos]

I'm not charged and I found someone who I previously thought to be mafia to be innocent.

[Nick]

-vote skip day

skip day (1): Nick

[Kromos]

-vote skip day

skip day (1): Nick

lol at least wait until some more people have come on.

[Kromos]

I take it we have no journalist as no article was published. I would like to hear:

Who was doused.
Who was charged.
Some investigation results if you think you have found scum.
Any leads from day 1 chat.

[Nick]

I also want to know if Borkbot is masoned.

[Deathfire123]

O Rocshi, you used Hamlet in your Last Will +10 respect.

[Luna]

-vote skip day

skip day (1): Nick

Well that was a ridiculously early skip move, I can only conclude that you are Town wanting to provoke some people into calling you out on this ;)

[Luna]

On a side note, noooooo Rocshi, I thought you would be the exciting newcomer which would win the game!

At least you can't kill any good guys with your Veteran abilities now.

[Dust]

-Vote Skip Day

This jailor is pro. Lets have him jail again.

skip day (2): Nick, Dust

[Dust]

I'm not charged and I found someone who I previously thought to be mafia to be innocent.
That person could be the godfather if you really think he's mafia

[Goremancer]

Hi guys I'm on nao :D. I g2g in 2 minutes tho :(

[Luna]

Hi guys I'm on nao :D. I g2g in 2 minutes tho :(

We must conduct a quick and thorough examination then:

Are you mafia? Y/N?

[Goremancer]

N :D

[Luna]

N :D

Only scum would say that, any respectable townsperson would have said 'Y' and gone for maximum WIFOM.

We need no further evidence, you may leave xD

[Goremancer]

I has fencing now :( all dem haters downstairs saying i need to stop playing mafia

[Luna]

I has fencing now :( all dem haters downstairs saying i need to stop playing mafia

So you admit you're playing as a mafia eh?

[Luna]

I am just killing time until people start waking up and we can begin fo' reals ^^

[Kromos]

That person could be the godfather if you really think he's mafia

That's possible.


I also want to know if Borkbot is masoned.

I would also like to know this. If we have masons then one citizen should reveal themselves or subtly hint that they are cit so that they can be recruited. Having masons would make it a lot easier to find the gf and the more confirmed town the better.

[Kromos]

@jacazc

Are you and your brother always going to vote together?

[Zack]

Good morning guys, I had a good night's sleep, so quiet.

So, what do we have?

[Kromos]

Good morning guys, I had a good night's sleep, so quiet.

So, what do we have?

We don't seem to have anything. No one has posted anything useful yet.

[Nick]

Good night guys.

[Kromos]

If no one posts any clues in the next hour, I will reveal who a member of the mafia is.

[Zack]

Didn't you say you found someone to be innocent mr. sheriff? Just wondering, you know.

[jaczac]

I want clues :D
and my response is i had no time, so i wagoned...

Meh.

[Kromos]

Didn't you say you found someone to be innocent mr. sheriff? Just wondering, you know.

As many of you guessed, I am not the sheriff.

[Zack]

Oh fire lord, my heart burns for thee!

[Kromos]

As not much people are on, I will reveal the mafia 3 hours from now. I don't want the day to end early so I will be withholding this information for now. I also don't want people to vote he/r straight away.

[Dust]

wouldn't that be him/her?

[wolfcheese]

To be fair let's say him/her/it.

[Kromos]

wouldn't that be him/her?

I know what your game is, Dust.

[Dust]

To be fair let's say him/her/it.
Are you referring to yourself with that last option? Hmmm?

[Dust]

I know what your game is, Dust.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=D5Pl22j0SKw

[wolfcheese]

Yes I was dust. Whenever cheese is cut, it murders those in the vicinity with its explosions of methane.

[Kromos]

@wolfcheese

Weren't you just killed? 0.o

[CmG]

Ohaioo SPRINGFIEELD!


@Failor the jailor: fail fail execution! I think i know now who the jailor is. Not that it matters much

the only Doc is dead. Gz :(

@Kromos: I see no sense in hiding the information Kromos. If you know who mafia is tell us so we can lynch him? I still think you are executioner. Fits you the best right now from all possible roles.

[wolfcheese]

@wolfcheese

Weren't you just killed? 0.o

I was last game, yes. Believe me, when that shovel came down on my head I stunk it up quite a bit for dear old Waaagh.

[Dust]

Kromos has good reason to hide the information.

Shove off of him.

[Kromos]

Ohaioo SPRINGFIEELD!


@Failor the jailor: fail fail execution! I think i know now who the jailor is. Not that it matters much

the only Doc is dead. Gz :(

@Kromos: I see no sense in hiding the information Kromos. If you know who mafia is tell us so we can lynch him? I still think you are executioner. Fits you the best right now from all possible roles.

Then you will be happy to know that I will die tonight with no doc to heal me.

You want to lynch who I accuse yet you think I'm an executioner? I assume you are one of the killing neutrals then if you want to lynch an executioner's target. My reasons for withholding the info should be obvious.

[wolfcheese]

Hm. Is there a reason I should be dead, Kromos? This is curious.

[Kromos]

Hm. Is there a reason I should be dead, Kromos? This is curious.

If your scum then that's a good reason :)

[CmG]

Then you will be happy to know that I will die tonight with no doc to heal me.

You want to lynch who I accuse yet you think I'm an executioner? I assume you are one of the killing neutrals then if you want to lynch an executioner's target. My reasons for withholding the info should be obvious.


Fail logic is fail.
I want to know your target because I FEAR MAFIA. If you are town bullshitting around like last game comes second.

[Kromos]

Fail logic is fail.
I want to know your target because I FEAR MAFIA. If you are town bullshitting around like last game comes second.

Your right, the killing neutrals do FEAR MAFIA.

[Dust]

Whoa whoa whoa.

Last game I tried these tactics of withholding info to get results.

Is Kromos the jailor with some of Rocshit's suspicions?

[wolfcheese]

If your scum then that's a good reason :)
It is, but that doesn't explain why you thought I was dead when I wasn't. (unless you really were talking about last game, in which case I'm all up for grabbing a few drinks and relishing over the good ol' days.)

[Zack]

@Kromos: I see no sense in hiding the information Kromos. If you know who mafia is tell us so we can lynch him? I still think you are executioner. Fits you the best right now from all possible roles.
Then you will be happy to know that I will die tonight with no doc to heal me.

You want to lynch who I accuse yet you think I'm an executioner? I assume you are one of the killing neutrals then if you want to lynch an executioner's target. My reasons for withholding the info should be obvious.

Kromos took CmG's post out of context. Just saying.

[Dust]

Zack, Zack, tell us your wisdom please

[CmG]

Then you will be happy to know that I will die tonight with no doc to heal me.

You want to lynch who I accuse yet you think I'm an executioner? I assume you are one of the killing neutrals then if you want to lynch an executioner's target. My reasons for withholding the info should be obvious.

No, it's not obvious. Like claiming sherriff on Day 1 and on Day 2 you are magically not the sherriff anymore but you found mafia. Wtf dude. If you are town you get the mafia you found out that we can lynch him. If mafia really thinks you know the target they will possible kill you anyway at night and you get the target in your lw and we lose a good lynch?

You make no sense to me and i think i am not the only one who doesn't get you.

[Dust]

I get Kromos. He is the only one making any sense today.

[Zack]

Zack, Zack, tell us your wisdom please

CmG can explain his own post, for some reason he didn't say anything. Take a good look, its simple to understand.

[Dust]

I was requesting that your majesty impart all of his wisdom peradventure he deems it necessary.

[Zack]

Are you in a hurry Dust? I'm no royalty to be addressed as such, at the moment I have nothing further to add.

[Dust]

His Eminence deems it unnecessary to enlighten the peasants further. Peradventure His Majesty could impart the list of those peasants who are villains.

[CmG]

Btw killing Dimwit looks like somebody has still some grudges against him from last FM. Just saying.

[Goremancer]

I'm back guys :)
*reads Dust's post, looks at Zack's title*

[CmG]

Some Borkbot did the same to me in M-FM 1

hf lurking Zack together with Sumikoko. Cya tomorrow

[Luna]

I still think the most interesting info of the day could possibly be from Rocshi's last will. I think Kromos is a Town PR, god knows if he's sheriff, this debate does not interest me until he comes up with mafia suspects ^^ But this line interests me:



If I am actually executed, I will laugh so hard at whoever the fuck the jailor is. Tried to manipulate a newbie into following some weird complex strat that had so many holes that it would have just gotten me lynched instead.

I wonder what strat this is. I'm also wondering whether this execution was indeed a 'fail' - is this part of some master plan, where Rocshi and the Jailor figured a Veteran might be worth sacrificing to start some intricate WIFOM? I mean, obviously this isn't the case because the last will doesn't really set anything up, but it was worth mentioning.

The loss of the Veteran in a setup with 2 neutral killers does hurt us though, especially with no doctor. The way Rocshi worded his last will initially made me think a FM vet might be jailor, but I reconsidered that opinion. I believe I know who the jailor is. Revealing this info is of course anti-Town. I would be interested in reading the dialogue between Rocshi and our Jailor though once this game is over :)

[Luna]

Btw killing Dimwit looks like somebody has still some grudges against him from last FM. Just saying.

Not the most specific list xD

[Goremancer]

I am completely lost :s

[Dust]

I have one question for the day. It comes in the next post. Brace yourselves.

[CmG]

We don't know where your fucking Rum is! :(

[Dust]

http://benisawesome.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/tumblr_ljnq9xqywd1qb6qyro1_500.gif

[Goremancer]

*answer*
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[BorkBot]

-vote Dust

He was obviously anti-mason yesterday and now he wants the day to be over ASAP. Walk the plank, pirate! Arr.

I won't say whether or not I was masoned until Kromos spits out his info. I think he's going to claim detective, saying he watched someone whom he thought to be mafia but ended up dousing/charging himself.

[Goremancer]

-vote Dust
Been suspecting him since day 1

[Goremancer]

-vote Dust
Been suspecting him since day 1

Tally

Dust (2): Goremancer, Borkbot

[Dust]

You two are going to regret those votes. Savvy?

[BorkBot]

Yeah I know. You will get Zane to kill us.

[Dust]

Zane thinks the same way you do about me. Read day 1. He won't vote you for voting me.

[Dust]

Don't lynch me while I'm gone. kthxbai

[BorkBot]

I call WIFOM for him pointing you out as scum. You could easily be scum on the same team.

I wonder what Deathfire has to say about this.

[Goremancer]

seems like most ppl are either afk or lurking

[TheWaaagh]

Hey, just stopped by, I could be wrong, but I think this might be one of the worst starts to Day 2 in town history. Doc's dead, Vet's dead, and the Jailor's down one of his two executions. WTF?

I see Kromos is pulling a FalseTruth from FMVI. And just like I was then, I'm pissed that our "sheriff" has information that they're withholding. I fail to see how someone not sharing a possible mafia lead can be "pro-town". If you're going purely off of scumtells Kromos, you should at least share them because the investigator (who doesn't have to reveal unless they found a maf of their own last night) can check your not susp target to confirm they're not the godfather.

Then again, FalseTruth didn't have any leads at the time in FMVI either, and he was actively working against the town as a sinner, so you realize Kromos, that by pulling the same tactic, you're doing the same thing right?

Unless you actually speak up, I have to agree with CmG's assessment of you.

[Luna]

I genuinely peg Kromos as a minor town power role, trying to force counter claims or people with actual evidence to come forward.

[Luna]

If he's a Citizen I shall be most annoyed, because he is very unlikely to be targeted at night for a kill now because scum likes divisive elements in the town.

Or, of course he could be adapting, knowing that many people from M-FMI are in this game and are on to his tricks. Could be scum of some sort.

So apparently to sum up my point; he is either a Town power role, a citizen, or scum. GG, Luna, G fucking G

[CmG]

No possibility of Dust being Jester then? So you believe Kromos is executioner and you are the second hidden neutral? GG, CmG, G fucking G!

[McJesus]

No my Eternity buddy Dimwit!!!!!!!!!!!! Well at least that clears me of being mafia, I would never shoot him night one.

Anyways I find it very suspicous dust and nick want to skip to night and I really don't understand the reasoning behind the action, logically or wifiom wise. Kromos should just reveal his lead or risk being called full of shit again, it is interesting to hear what role he is given he said he lied about being the sheriff.

Also people should adjust the rules so that jailor can't kill first night, vigi isn't allowed to fail night one by taking a blind shot why should the jailior be allowed to fail? Given they should still roleblock

[CmG]

Because the jailor gets his night chat to find out if he is scum. The vigi has only the retarded Day 1 chat.

[Luna]

Also people should adjust the rules so that jailor can't kill first night, vigi isn't allowed to fail night one by taking a blind shot why should the jailior be allowed to fail? Given they should still roleblock

I suppose there's the argument that the Jailor gets to see all the day 1 chat, and can speak to his victim at night (and there's not much chance for him to do anything else once the game gets started and we begin lynching).

At this stage, the fact that Dust is still alive concerns me, I can only assume he is at least doused or charged. The possibility that he is scum scares the crud out of me, since I know I'll probably fall for his web of deceit.

[Goremancer]

no one's gonna vote?

[CmG]

I wait for Kromos first, if he is full of shit we still can random lynch somebody... "rolleyes"

[TheWaaagh]

no one's gonna vote?

With the information we have right now (none), who would you vote for?

[Luna]

The more I think about it, Kromos claiming sheriff day 1 is extremely suspicious to me now. He has set a precedent where he might be able to say "Guys I was just trying to make a play, I'm not really sheriff, trying to force a counter-claim/etc.". He made a bold play for Town Leader, failed, and has a possible out. He could even be fine with getting investigated (i.e. Godfather). I look forward to Kromos coming out with some info ^^ Until then, might as well vote as I'm off for a bit.

-vote Kromos

[Luna]

With the information we have right now (none), who would you vote for?

We actually have a fair bit of info thanks to a day 1 which was more tactical than most, I don't hold out much hope for a big role-claim today without a doctor.

[TheWaaagh]

We actually have a fair bit of info thanks to a day 1 which was more tactical than most, I don't hold out much hope for a big role-claim today without a doctor.

I don't see suspicions as being the same as info. I think that's a distinction our dear Jailor forgot to make last night, and look what happened there.

[Luna]

I don't see suspicions as being the same as info. I think that's a distinction our dear Jailor forgot to make last night, and look what happened there.

Well my vote still stands, the biggest chance at info we'll get in the near future is off Kromos (who I bet is wishing the Doctor is still alive if he is indeed the Sheriff)

[Goremancer]

With the information we have right now (none), who would you vote for?

When that happens i pretty much assume everyone is lying and everyone is a scum/mafia. Maybe that's why I'm not really contributing :S

[Luna]

When that happens i pretty much assume everyone is lying and everyone is a scum/mafia. Maybe that's why I'm not really contributing :S

My cunning interrogation at the beginning of the day has already confirmed you as scum 8)

[Goremancer]

My cunning interrogation at the beginning of the day has already confirmed you as scum 8)
LUNA GETS COOKIEZ!!11! I r skum :D

[Zane]

i liek cake

[Dust]

I'm actually disappointed that you guys haven't got any more votes on me. It looks like I'm not suspicious enough.

[BorkBot]

I liek caek as well, but I still don't understand how that caused people to trust you enough to elect you town leader.

Electing someone who acts like a jester/troll all the time is only in the best interest of scum, really.

[Dust]

Also, Luna is scum

[BBmolla]

inb4 people think I'm the jailor.

Also, Dust just ninja'd me, Luna is indeed scum.

[BBmolla]

Also shouldn't the charged player claim?

[Dust]

Also shouldn't the charged player claim?
Yes, very much so, unless they be scum.

[Goremancer]

Dust are you charged? Or maybe BBmolla is charged

[Dust]

I am not charged

[BBmolla]

Not charged here.

[Goremancer]

It's ok Dust. We all trust you :)

[Dust]

It's ok Dust. We all trust you :)
I'm sure you do.

[Luna]

I am Yuffie :(

[BorkBot]

It's possible that one of the dead people was charged.

What's funny though is that Dust suggested that people should only admit to being charged if they are town. So if he's scum, he doesn't have to admit to being charged at all :p

Anyone doused?

[Luna]

Nope, but without a doc we couldn't do much about it anyway.

Unless the town plumber installs a shower in our houses

[Dust]

If someone claims to be charged we won't visit that person out of fear for being charged that night

[Dust]

...and dying.

[Dust]

Vigilante, shoot Luna tonight

[Goremancer]

Nope, but without a doc we couldn't do much about it anyway.

Unless the town plumber installs a shower in our houses
If Mario and Luigi existed inside Mafia what would be their alignment? Abilities?

[Dust]

If Mario and Luigi existed inside Mafia what would be their alignment? Abilities?
They are Italian so they would be Mafia aligned

[BorkBot]

If someone claims to be charged we won't visit that person out of fear for being charged that night
Who is "we"? You and your mafia bros? Do you want to let a vigilante shoot Luna because your Godfather was charged and your consigliere found out that Luna is the electromaniac?

Was "I liek cake" a code?

[CmG]

You all troll too much. Seriously, Dust, Luna and Goremancer are all scummy as hell. There can only be 1 Jester if there is one. And you trolled on Day 1 also where a doc was still around..

I am not charged.

[Dust]

We = town

I don't see whats so hard to understand about my posts.

I really don't

[Goremancer]

You all troll too much. Seriously, Dust, Luna and Goremancer are all scummy as hell. There can only be 1 Jester if there is one. And you trolled on Day 1 also where a doc was still around..

I am not charged.
I r skum. Do i get cheese cakez? Cookiez?

[BorkBot]

It must be your avatar, Dust. Just look at that shifty picture of Jack, it's very scummy.

Your shifty comments and Vigilante directions without basis aren't helping you either.

[Dust]

Parley?

[Dust]

Don't lynch me while I'm gone. kthxbai

[Luna]

Zane super-trolled and got Town Leader. We 'trolls' survived night 1. I then try and start analysing last wills and intentions while Dust trolls us with Rum jokes.

Dust you are a superb player, I would say you and BBmolla were scum-chums if it weren't for the fact I am convinced he is Town ^^

[BorkBot]

I lold :p

Alright. What are you offering? Why should we (the town) spare your life, Dust?

[CmG]

Dust y u play like exactly like me and Thewaaagh combined on Day 1 at the other M - FM ? The analysis you took there on Thewaaagh and me is almost identical with your playstyle here.

[Luna]

Don't lynch me while I'm gone. kthxbai

I agree with this sentiment, I'm about to go out I'd appreciate it if a bandwagon didn't fall on me while I'm gone. kthxbai

[CmG]

btw my lovely lurkers how about we use the time without the scum to discuss why you should claim beeing charged and when not.

I start with if you are a Town PR role you should definetly claim if you got charged on N1.

[McJesus]

No one lynch me either, I'm not jesus or the jester this time

[TheWaaagh]

Dust y u play like exactly like me and Thewaaagh combined on Day 1 at the other M - FM ? The analysis you took there on Thewaaagh and me is almost identical with your playstyle here.

It's almost like he's trying to get lynched.

[CmG]

It's almost like he's trying to get lynched.

I smell a hidden objective.

[CmG]

thats why i assume there are masons in the game because it would be a very good hidden objective for a citizen don't you agree?

[CmG]

most likely citizen hidden objective: catch a kill, get masoned
most likely Doc hidden objective: save 1 -3 people from Dead
most likely investigator objective find mafia, arso, maniac
most likely sherriff objective, find mafia, arso, maniac
most likely executioner objective, get elected as major
most likey jailor objective, kill 1-2 non town roles.

go on


had to edit it to clarify something with the host.

[RandomNumbers0]

brofists to jac!
no time BROS!!!

[Goremancer]

I'm back and I"m more confuzzled than evah :D not sure what this whole hidden objective is. I've read the past posts and I'm still not sure what's going on. Well i'm off. BAI!!!
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[BorkBot]

btw my lovely lurkers how about we use the time without the scum to discuss why you should claim beeing charged and when not.

I start with if you are a Town PR role you should definetly claim if you got charged on N1.

If you are charged, absolutely. It'll be a warning that it's dangerous for other town PRs to visit you. Even if they aren't charged yet, if they get charged the next night and decide to visit you, both you die. Of course it's a warning for scum as well and the arsonist will have less reason to douse you, but the benefits of declaring you're charged (avoiding the risk of losing 2 townies as well as the ability for detectives/lookouts to identify an electromaniac) vastly outweigh the benefits of not declaring it.

If you get doused and you are a town PR, you should also tell it. It helps a detective/lookout to identify an arsonist, and it gives the electromaniac less incentive to charge you and the mafia less incentive to attack you. This means you can keep visiting people without risk of dying to electrocution, except if the arsonist incinerates his targets.

[BorkBot]

Ignore.

[McJesus]

does it notify you if you are doused and/or charged?

[CmG]

abusing the rolecard is cheating bork. Read the rules. I assume you are full of shit here.

[BorkBot]

Where was that stated? I'll edit it out for the time being until I know the answer.

[CmG]

Don't get me wrong if you try to wifom there i don't care but its really contraproductive in any way. So don't come running crieing to me if you get mod killed.

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[CmG]

Copy pasted from Day 1

Here are some notable rules:

1) Each thread will start at DAY. I will use the SAME thread to begin the night – once you see the night post, you may not post here anymore.
2) Once the time limit is up, or a lynch has been hammered, the day will end. If a lynch is hammered while I am not present, the lynch will be locked but day chat may still continue. Once I post in the thread declaring the end of the day, you may not post in the thread anymore.
3) All night actions must be PM'd to me here, on Fragos.
4) Obviously you may not talk about this game outside of the day/night threads, or outside of dead chat.
5) Anyone attempting to interfere with this game from the outside, or any griefing from the players, will be noted and your participance in future FM games will be unlikely.
6) Everyone has secondary objectives. You are not allowed to talk about then: only Mafia can share their objectives between each other.
7) If you have any questions, PM them to me directly. Before asking then, don't forget to check Mini FM II FAQ thread, though.


I asked Fragos and its ok to speculate what the other roles have as hidden objectives.

[BorkBot]

Got it. In that case, we should both get mod killed because you are talking about them as well. You're starting a discussion on the topic, which was why I countered.

Sorry mason bro if Fragos decides to modkill me :(


Makes no sense that you can discuss them because it's easy enough to imply which role you are by stating your "guesses".

[CmG]

Nigger, as long i don't tell mine its ok to speculate over it. I asked fragos per PM. Your fault for revealing information like that seriously. I didn't even attended ppl to be that stupid. Thx for framing me there with your dumb behaviour.

[CmG]

You sound now scummy too gj there bork.

[BorkBot]

Dumb behaviour maybe, but I simply forgot about that rule.

Fine, modkill me. Not that it makes that big of a difference.

[BorkBot]

I now think CmG is scum for tricking gullible me into being modkilled with his stupid discussion subject. :evil:

[CmG]

Believe what you want i am not the one useing such lame tactics in games you should have catched that already. Thats more the style of the other faggots like Dust and co. I still think you are the one who abuses now this situation at its fullest!

[Kromos]

Hi guys, I know I said I would give you a name for a mafia member a while ago but I've been out. After I've read through your posts and watched Merlin ofc I will say who s/he is. Give me an hour :)

[BorkBot]

Anyway... yes, I'm a mason now. And I'd like a citizen to come forward so that the other mason (not revealing him) gets a fresh recruit tonight.

[Fragos]

I'm watching you... but this time I'll go to bed again, so for the next 10 hours you should continue the discussion without my attention.

Also, there were some votes at beginning, but I don't see any current vote tally. Please keep track of it everytime you vote.

[BorkBot]

Tally

Dust (2): Goremancer, Borkbot
Skip (2): Dust, Nick

[Fragos]

Didn't someone tried to vote Kromos?

[wolfcheese]

Here you go.

The more I think about it, Kromos claiming sheriff day 1 is extremely suspicious to me now. He has set a precedent where he might be able to say "Guys I was just trying to make a play, I'm not really sheriff, trying to force a counter-claim/etc.". He made a bold play for Town Leader, failed, and has a possible out. He could even be fine with getting investigated (i.e. Godfather). I look forward to Kromos coming out with some info ^^ Until then, might as well vote as I'm off for a bit.

-vote Kromos

[wolfcheese]

Dust (2): Goremancer, Borkbot
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna

[Zane]

-vote Sumococo

Dust (2): Goremancer, Borkbot
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (3): Zane

[Deathfire123]

-vote Sumococo

Dust (2): Goremancer, Borkbot
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (3): Zane


Explain. Until then

-vote Dust

CmG is trolling less than you, you should be ashamed

[Zane]

Lurkerkiller Zane activated and ready to crush heads babyboy uuuuuh

[wolfcheese]

Dust (3): Goremancer, Borkbot ,Deathfire123
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (3): Zane

[Goremancer]

Zane wake up! There is a banana on the table :D

[CmG]

Explain. Until then

-vote Dust

CmG is trolling less than you, you should be ashamed

Why is this guy still alive?

[Kromos]

Im the detective. Deathfire visited Dimwit.

[Goremancer]

Im the detective. Deathfire visited Dimwit.
I am pretty sure that someone had called you being a detective out.

[Kromos]

I am pretty sure that someone had called you being a detective out.

They are probably the investigator.

My internet connection is really bad atm so if I take a while to respond to posts or I suddenly stop talking then that will be why.

[Kromos]

vote Deathfire123

I better come up with excuses fast.

[Kromos]

He* :p

[Goremancer]

What's the tally again?

[Kromos]

There is a chance (a very small one) that deathfire is a town PR who just happened to visit the dead guy like Zane in M-FM I. However I would encourage pressure voting him to talk. I don't think he's said anything all day.

Dust (2): Goremancer, Borkbot
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (3): Zane
Deathfire123 (1): Kromos

[wolfcheese]

I'll bite. It would be pretty damn unnerving though if you really just pulled off the "I'm sheriff except a different town PR" thing twice in a row.

-vote Deathfire123

Dust (3): Goremancer, Borkbot ,Deathfire123
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (3): Zane
Deathfire123(2): Kromos, wolfcheese

[wolfcheese]

This would make me wonder though, why not send the godfather to do the kill? He can't be tracked. But I'm not used to FM mafias so maybe someone else can see why it'd be beneficial to send someone else.

[Kromos]

This would make me wonder though, why not send the godfather to do the kill? He can't be tracked. But I'm not used to FM mafias so maybe someone else can see why it'd be beneficial to send someone else.

The mafia work in strange ways :)

[Goremancer]

-vote Deathfire123

I'm probably just being manipulated but I'll believe in kromos for now

[Goremancer]

Tally
Dust (2):Borkbot ,Deathfire123
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (3): Zane
Deathfire123(3): Kromos, wolfcheese, Goremancer

[wolfcheese]

The mafia work in strange ways :)
True, I wouldn't put it past them. I guess it could be a WIFOM thing and they hoped the detective would say "I actually saw him visit the dead guy, so he's probably not mafia." If deathfire's ability wasn't something he wanted to use yet (or he's just a mafioso) then it might not be the worst strategy.

[Kromos]

My internet connection is about to go down so I'm gonna need to say this now as I might not be on again before the end of the day.

I'm not the detective (failed at accusation anyway :p). I didn't investigate Deathfire. I claimed to know who a member of the mafia was to generate a response as nothing was happening before this. I accused Deathfire because he hasn't said anything all day and looked suspicious the day before as well. He also isn't the guy I found innocent last night.

I will keep my vote on Deathfire because he really does need to talk although I have no proof on him. We still need to hear who was doused (why wouldn't you reveal?) and who was charged. A citizen should also reveal themselves before the day ends to be converted by the masons.

I think I will be killed tonight so I will leave my inno read in my lw. I think I have a pretty good idea who at least one scum is so will be following that up tonight. Good luck for the rest of the day. Will try to be on for the last few hours if I can.

[Goremancer]

This is my first time playing FM but my god this is sluggish

[wolfcheese]

Well then. At least things make more sense that way. I'll keep my vote there too just for kicks.

[Zack]

Activity times just differ...

Don't worry Kromos, i'l stop by your house to take your stuff after you are killed. I'm such a nice guy.

Also, you guys fail at tallying votes. Not that i'm volunteering to do it myself o.o

[Goremancer]

This is gonna be my last post. But who do you suspect Zack? I don't trust my own opinion

[BorkBot]

Activity times just differ...

Don't worry Kromos, i'l stop by your house to take your stuff after you are killed. I'm such a nice guy.

Also, you guys fail at tallying votes. Not that i'm volunteering to do it myself o.o

Wait. Did you just claim disguiser? Are you pulling my leg? :o

[BorkBot]

I don't trust Kromos one bit. Seems like a very executioner-like action he performed there, relying on M-FM 1 WIFOM to get people to vote with him. I was the one who predicted he'd claim detective and I'm definitely not an investigator. Just predicting Kromos' movements. I can tell you he's not the other mason and if he's a citizen trying to draw attention from killers he is utterly failing because the killers have him right where they want him (being suspicious).

I don't really trust Deathfire either, but I'm keeping my vote on Dust because his behaviour has been the scummiest thus far. I also do not trust Zane. I really hope he isn't the investigator, because if he is then we'll have nobody to confirm him being clear until he role claims. Which isn't going to happen any time soon because the doc is dead.

The town looks to be in a really bad position right now, so all the more reason for another citizen to reveal so that we (masons) can clear more people.

[Sumikoko]

From what I garnered in the reading:
If I were the Mafia (which I'm not), I would kill Dimwit first too, not because I was a Roman, but because he clearly proved himself in FMVI to either be extremely adept at reasoning and shepherding the right people, or have the Angels of Luck on his side, literally, for following someone who was visited by both Lucifer and Tiberius the same night. Knowing he's not on my team, he is therefore a huge threat. I would be rejoicing now at finding out I took care of a major town power role and possible town leader in one go. But of course, I'm not the Mafia, so I am not rejoicing.

If I were the Mafia (which I'm not), I would want everyone to tell who's charged as well so in the case that my Mafioso/other killing role was charged, I would know who to kill without facing retribution. Also, I would most likely be the first one to say I am charged, even if I'm not. Because the arsonist and the electromaniac needs each other's cooperation to win more easily, the arsonist would not visit someone who's charged, and vice versa to kill the maximum number of people in one go. Therefore, if I say I'm charged, the townies would be reluctant to visit me, so it makes it irrelevent even if the electromaniac knows I'm not charged and comes charge me (which s/he'd be a fool to if I were Mafia because the town are currently in power and would redirect all their fury on the two of them if my faction were wiped out).

If I were the Mafia (which I'm not), I would also want to know who the arsonist doused so I can choose the other people to kill to wipe out the townies quicker, and figure out who I need to backstab once half the townies die in a conflagration.

But of course, since I'm not the Mafia, I don't know why I said all that.

:)

Oh yeah, did I mention I'm charged?

[BorkBot]

You're saying how you would act if you were mafia, and then you do exactly the same as you would in that situation.

Are you mafia?

Or are you the arsonist? (never denied, and you were suggesting how the arsonist and electromaniac should communicate)

Or are you the electromaniac taking advantage of the fact nobody else claims to be charged?

Sumikoko just got +scum rep with Mason BorkBot.

Of course, you could be a WIFOM-ing town PR. If you are telling the truth and a town PR, I suspect Zack of being the electromaniac because no one would ever suspect him. He voted you to be town leader after all.

[BorkBot]

For the sake of investigation, I find it tempting to lynch Sumikoko so that we have a better idea of what Zane is up to.

-unvote Dust
-vote Sumikoko

Dust (1): Deathfire123
Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (4): Zane, BorkBot
Deathfire123(3): Kromos, wolfcheese, Goremancer

[Deathfire123]

I didn't visit dimwit, what did I say, Kromos is executioner, easy execution. Nice try.

No point in getting rid of an executioner, go ahead and invest Kromos, he won't have detective as one of his possible roles.

Way to make it obvious Kromos
-unvote Dust
-vote Sumikoko

Sumi on the other hand lurks like no tomorrow.

Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (1): Luna
Sumikoko (5): Zane, BorkBot, Deathfire123
Deathfire123(3): Kromos, wolfcheese, Goremancer

[McJesus]

sumi could be charged or she could be hiding something and doesn't want to be investigated. I would claim charged too if I was mafia. Kromos needs to stop fake roleclaiming, Deathfire just isn't used to surviving this long man, cut him some slack. Pressure for a real roleclaim

-vote Kromos

[Goremancer]

-unvote Deathfire
-vote Sumikoko

Easily influenced. Now this is honestly my last post. Honestly

[Deathfire123]

Edit: Need to read, looks like he was lying.... -.-

[TheWaaagh]

So I hop back on to see how things have gone, and what a surprise, Kromos didn't have shit and was just trying to get the spotlight on him.

Sumi claims being charged, I'm 50/50 on this. On the one hand, no one else has claimed being charged, so it's entirely possible she's telling the truth about it. On the other hand though, Dimwit did point out her Day 1 fear of the arsonist as being a possible scumslip that she is in fact the Electromaniac.

Also, I'm just going to throw this out there: Zane voted for Sumi before the day ended yesterday for Town Leader, and today he leads a vote to lynch her, I find this interesting. I'm not sure what exactly it means, but it's worth noting.

[Sumikoko]

Zane has no basis for voting me. Unless he's the Mafia I claim not to be.

[BorkBot]

Thanks, TheWaaagh. Good to know I'm not the only one who noticed that.

It could mean Zane is something important besides being town leader, for better or for worse. Or he could be a jester. His lack of actual writing makes it hard to figure him out, which I find annoying.

[Deathfire123]

I'm getting fucking sick of Kromos and his stupid ass gambits that never work

-unvote Sumikoko
-vote Kromos

He's doing exactly what I did in FM7, he's making up a bunch of bullshit and pretending its real info to hide the fact he's evil.

[McJesus]

Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (3): Luna, McPwnage, Deathfire123
Sumikoko (5): Zane, BorkBot, Goremancer
Deathfire123(2): Kromos, wolfcheese

[BBmolla]

These fake claims are stupid.

-vote Luna

[BorkBot]

These fake claims are stupid.

-vote Luna

Funny that you say that, followed by a vote for someone who hasn't claimed anything at all.

Care to explain why you voted for Luna?

[wolfcheese]

unvote

Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (3): Luna, McPwnage, Deathfire123
Sumikoko (5): Zane, BorkBot, Goremancer
Deathfire123(1): KromosLuna(1): BBmolla

[wolfcheese]

Skip (2): Dust, Nick
Kromos (3): Luna, McPwnage, Deathfire123
Sumikoko (5): Zane, BorkBot, Goremancer
Deathfire123(1): Kromos
Luna(1): BBmolla

Fixed.

[BBmolla]

Funny that you say that, followed by a vote for someone who hasn't claimed anything at all.

Care to explain why you voted for Luna?
-vote Luna
^Just to make sure

Luna is most likely scum, reread their play yesterday and today. It's scummy as hell.

If we're not mass claiming I don't have a point in claiming.

[Zane]

good night

[BorkBot]

-vote Luna
^Just to make sure

Luna is most likely scum, reread their play yesterday and today. It's scummy as hell.

If we're not mass claiming I don't have a point in claiming.

Far less scummy than yourself, in my opinion. I'd rate them a 4 and you're a 7 right now.

Not saying you have to claim, but with no specific reason for your lynch vote you're not giving yourself much credibility.

EDIT:
Good night, Zane. Thanks for your amazing contribution today. *cough*

[Zack]

Luna is clearly evil, because she claimed being the moon, and we all know that role is not even in the role list.

Sumi is teaching us the meaning of the word WIFOM, heh

[BBmolla]

I'd type up a case, but I don't know if people actually do that here, so I'd probably be called dumb some more if I did anyway. Kind of pointless.

I'll just throw my vote up and sit back and let you guys do your thing.

Also, I'm glad you think I'm scummy, makes me not a night kill target, ty.

[BorkBot]

I'd type up a case, but I don't know if people actually do that here, so I'd probably be called dumb some more if I did anyway. Kind of pointless.
Or a jail/execution target.

Oh wait, you're the jailor, aren't you?

Please do type up that case. People do actually do that here (look at Dust in M-FM1). It's not dumb, it'll make you MVP.

[CmG]

Borkiboy you behave not like town the last 3 posts...

[BorkBot]

I'm not behaving like a town "power" role, that's right. I'm behaving like a mason who is trying to extract information from people so that I actually have something to discuss tonight.

[CmG]

so you say you wanna reveal the jailor that you can discuss something tonight? Aww cmon Borkbot i know you can better then this.

[BorkBot]

If he's not going to respond, he is probably the jailor and scum would do well to kill him tonight.

If he's not the jailor, he should speak up and share his observations and theories.

[Dust]

I just read all this.

I agree completely that Sumikoko is scum.

I'm in a hurry so I can't copy paste the last tally. sorry

-Vote Sumikoko

Reasons incoming (when I get back(

[wolfcheese]

Skip (1): Nick
Kromos (3): Luna, McPwnage, Deathfire123
Sumikoko (6): Zane, BorkBot, Goremancer, Dust
Deathfire123(1): Kromos
Luna(1): BBmolla

[wolfcheese]

Actually, I have been thinking about BBmolla's accusation of Luna. He might be on to something.

vote Luna

Skip (1): Nick
Kromos (3): Luna, McPwnage, Deathfire123
Sumikoko (6): Zane, BorkBot, Goremancer, Dust
Deathfire123(1): Kromos
Luna(2): BBmolla, wolfcheese

[Sumikoko]

If it's one thing I'd like to point out as someone not in the Mafia, it's why the tally besides my name is 6 when I see only 4 names.

[Sumikoko]

Oh, Zane voted me, that's why.
Nevermind.
Mystery solved.
I'm still waiting for Dust's explanation for why I seem scummy from my epic WIFOM note before I offer any defense for myself.
Until then, I implore the rest of the townies to withhold their vote for me.

[CmG]

well basicly he will show you your own posts with some of his propaganda attached and will call it proof. :)

[CmG]

But he has to claim a role anyhow if he wants you to get lynched because he trolled hard Day 1 and day 2. So its better then nothing.

[TheWaaagh]

If it's one thing I'd like to point out as someone not in the Mafia, it's why the tally besides my name is 6 when I see only 4 names.

I think it's post like these that are making people find you scummy. Yesterday you mentioned your fear of the Arsonist, but not the Electromaniac. And today you keep saying you're "not in the mafia", but you curiously omit the other two killing neutrals: Arsonist and Electromaniac.

Personally, I'm withholding my vote because I want to hear your defense before I commit. Although, if you insist on having people almost lynch you before revealing your information, that's likely because you're trying to buy time to come up with an adequate defense. So, if you don't come up with something soon I will be voting for you.

[RandomNumbers0]

Im not gonna vote sumi until dust makes his reasons.

[CmG]

Im not gonna vote sumi until dust makes his reasons.

Oh are you playing with us RandomNumbers0? How about giving more on Day 2 like 2 phantom posts with 0 information? You are the most lurky person around with, Mcpwnage, Nick and Guardian.

[Sumikoko]

Heh, that in all honesty was the fact that I forgot there was a mayor because I've never played in a game with one.

I am waiting for Dust because I'm curious about what he's going to say. I can't construct a defense if I don't know exactly what I'm being accused of other than "sounding" scummy. Of the people that's voted, I can tell you this for sure: Zane has no evidence on voting me because he voted me before I said anything today. I understand why Borkbot and Dust suspects me, because I act scummy. Goremancer is just hopping on the train.

But then I ask you this, while I admit I'm by no means a stellar FM player, if I were scum, don't you think I'm being waaay too obvious about it? Think about it. I'll say that if you take my first post at face-value, you'll think I'm scum. If you take off the first level of WIFOM, you'll still think I'm scum. Dig a second layer or third, then tell me what you think. :)

I'll go and write a last will or whatnot. But if my lynch goes through, I will say that the people who vote me are either idiots, or think I'm the idiot. In which case after the lynch, the ones who think I'm the idiot will think themselves to be idiots. And will then say I'm the idiot for changing my playstyle so suddenly.

[TheWaaagh]

So your defense is "I'm obviously scum, therefore I'm not"? I'm sorry, but that's not a terribly stellar defense. Of course, I've already listed why I think you might be scum, but I don't know what Dust's reasons are so I guess we'll wait for him to return.

In the meantime, there's something else I find interesting that I don't think anyone else has brought up. Yesterday, BorkBot and Kromos were the only two to openly claim roles: Citizen and Sheriff.

Today, Sumi claims she was charged by the Electromaniac, and thus far no one has claimed being doused. Does anyone else find it odd that the "Sheriff" wasn't hit by the Electromaniac? Given that Kromos is the only person the EM would "know" has to visit people each night, increasing his chances of exploding?

From this I draw a couple of conclusions:

1) Sumi's lying about being charged, and Kromos was in fact hit. Unless the two are masons or mafia, and share a night chat, there's no way they could coordinate this. Still, it's a possibility.

2) The EM isn't very good at this game. It's probably the most straight forward reason for him not going for the claimed Sheriff and instead going for a "random".

3) The EM did go for Kromos, but there's a bus driver that switched Kromos with Sumi. I'll check after I finish writing this up, but I don't know if the bus driver's actions notify people, if they don't then I think this is likely what happened.

4) Kromos is the EM. Last game, he claimed Sheriff and then used it to cover a town role, he could just as easily being using the same ploy, but this time using it to cover a not-so-town role. It would make sense then that he wasn't charged, because there'd be no reason for him to waste his N1 charging himself. I'm not one to throw accusations around loosely, but it does fit with his general behavior this game (starting lynches with falsified information, lying about his role repeatedly, etc.)

I'm not saying we lynch Kromos right now, as these are all equal possibilities, but it is something to think about.

[CmG]

He claimed already that there is a Bus driver dood just look on page 1 on this day hur dur herp derp.

[CmG]

oh btw don't forget the witch theory. There is no conspiracy theory complete without the witch, witching random ppl in doing silly things like charging sumokoko.

[TheWaaagh]

@CMG: Good call on the witch, I don't remember seeing anything about a Bus Driver, but I'm a go back to the beginning and reread.

[TheWaaagh]

Um, I just went back to the first page and searched for the words bus driver and the only place I saw it mentioned was in Deathfire's sig and Fragos first post of the day.

No one has actually confirmed the existence of a Bus Driver in this game.

[Sumikoko]

That is not my defense, Waaagh, though it could be if you really think about how scum need to act. That is most people's reasoning for lynching me. I'm being so outright scummy that I must be scum, is their reasoning. Which, by the way, is incorrect.
I'm waiting for Dust because it would seem he has more to offer than that. Though really, he's wasting his time if he does lol. Unless he's the Mafia I'm not.

I will say this though, because I've included this in my last will. You will sorely regret lynching me. Very, very much.
And again, to remind the townies, I ask you to withhold your vote on me till Dust says something. Or rather then entire game, if possible, but I suppose then I get accused of being scum if I say that.

[BorkBot]

Kromos asked someone to "use their action on him again or he'd be dead tomorrow," which is what CmG is implying I think.


1) Sumi's lying about being charged, and Kromos was in fact hit. Unless the two are masons or mafia, and share a night chat, there's no way they could coordinate this. Still, it's a possibility.


They are not masons, that's for sure.

[BorkBot]

I'm being so outright scummy that I must be scum, is their reasoning. Which, by the way, is incorrect.

Is the conclusion incorrect?

Is the reasoning incorrect?

Answer both separately please. It's pretty clear you're twisting words.


EDIT: removed stuff here and put it in a new post below to keep a correct timeline.

[Sumikoko]

Both. Both.
There, I answered "both" separately. Literally. See?? They're separated by a period!
:)
In all seriousness though, both. Are incorrect I mean.
And I guess I've not developed a reputation for this, but I do like word games very much, including twisting words to fit the meaning I want. :) It'd be very useful to use if I were the Mafia I'm not.

[CmG]

LOOOL GJ Mafia! :D i luv u for that night action! :D

[TheWaaagh]

Kromos asked someone to "use their action on him again or he'd be dead tomorrow," which is what CmG is implying I think.

Oh snap, I thought Kromos was referring to a Bodyguard or Armorsmith, since he obviously wasn't talking to the Doctor. That makes sense now.

And Sumi keeps saying she's not mafia, but leaving out the EM and Arsonist. WTF.

[TheWaaagh]

BTW BorkBot, I don't think you're allowed to edit your posts. Otherwise people would just run through and delete them at the end of each day. I believe you're a Cit/Mason, but you can't be doing that shady stuff.

[BorkBot]

Thanks for your answers, Sumikoko. At the very least it's giving some insight into your play style.

By the way, you're saying things that are beneficial to neutral killing roles and consciously leave them out of your "I'm not scum" claims. What are you trying to accomplish with this? If you're not a town role that's capable of proving itself, you're really shooting yourself in the foot by making yourself appear suspicious. THAT is the main reason people are voting for you. And a secondary reason for me is because someone so scummy is a worthy sacrifice to figure out what the heck my mafia suspects are up to.

[Goremancer]

I just came back from watching a show about Schubert. It was very amusing :D

[CmG]

which schubert? franz?

[Goremancer]

which schubert? franz?
Yea. They made a lot of jokes so it was actually better than you think

[CmG]

Thats kinda fitting. because our Mafia has a good sense of humour too if they did what i think they did :D

[Goremancer]

Then I'm missing out on the humor, which is terrible. I love humor and if I'm missing a joke I would be very sad

[BorkBot]

Understood, TheWaaagh. I haven't abused it, but it's true that people could abuse it. My main reason for editing has been to avoid spamming the thread when new thoughts occur to me and nobody else had posted yet.

I'll try to avoid edits from now on (though there have been no specific rules against it in this MFM).

[CmG]

oh cmon Goremancer you know what i mean. Silly. Mafia blackmailed guardian FUCKING AWESOME! :D

[Goremancer]

hurr durr 0.0 Damn I felt like an idiot

[BorkBot]

I haven't seen Guardian reading at all. Maybe he just didn't have time to play today, or he's mafia himself and faking a blackmail :p

[TheWaaagh]

Understood, TheWaaagh. I haven't abused it, but it's true that people could abuse it. My main reason for editing has been to avoid spamming the thread when new thoughts occur to me and nobody else had posted yet.

I'll try to avoid edits from now on (though there have been no specific rules against it in this MFM).

Yeah, but seeing as how every other rule from M-FM I is here, I figured I'd mention it before you get struck down in a hail of modkill.

Also CmG I don't think Guardian is blackmailed, otherwise he could still post "I am blackmailed" today, which he hasn't.

Plus I'm pretty sure if they did, Guardian would just commit suicide to stick it to the bastards ;). Although BorkBot's "faking it" theory is always a possibility, but again, you'd think he'd still take advantage of being able to say he's blackmailed.

[CmG]

He was here 15 min ago and i saw him 5 hours ago too. Nope he was here like the spammy guy he is he would spam theories and analises all over the place. But i guess he would be a terrible scum player with that sort of behaviour so it could be just a trick indeed.

[CmG]

you know its just he plays like 180 degree different. in this FM thats something what is really really fishy.

[Sumikoko]

And Sumi keeps saying she's not mafia, but leaving out the EM and Arsonist. WTF.
I'm utilizing WIFOM to my maximum capability this game, which would be helpful if I were the Mafia, but I'm not. Umad? :)

In any case, Borkbot, I see you almost understand my intent, but doesn't quite grasp it yet. I see you are possibly the only person who will understand me, in various ways. I have seen you say 2 things since I've made my bold post that indicates you have considered the possibility of what I'm doing. I honestly do have a reason to everything I'm doing. Whether they're good reasons or not, only time will tell. This newly developed playstyle of mine is still in development, I'm afraid. Sorry for using you guys as guinea pigs. Heh.

I wish I had telepathy so I can relay all my thoughts to you, Borkbot. :(

But I do suggest you retract your vote on me or else you will slap yourself later. Seriously.

[BorkBot]

Thanks for the info. I didn't spot him on the users list myself. I agree that's a little bit suspicious and the possibility of blackmail could be taken into account.

Anyway, I'll be going to sleep soon and I once again want to stress that we'd like to have one more citizen to come forward today so that they can be recruited. I haven't noticed any stealth claims either.

[CmG]

Yeah, but seeing as how every other rule from M-FM I is here, I figured I'd mention it before you get struck down in a hail of modkill.

Also CmG I don't think Guardian is blackmailed, otherwise he could still post "I am blackmailed" today, which he hasn't.

Plus I'm pretty sure if they did, Guardian would just commit suicide to stick it to the bastards ;). Although BorkBot's "faking it" theory is always a possibility, but again, you'd think he'd still take advantage of being able to say he's blackmailed.


Would you write i am blackmailed if you are an neutral who can win with mafia? I would not.

[Goremancer]

While everyone is suspecting Sumi, Zane and Dust still hangs in the back of my mind. I mean damn Dust is suspicious but somehow we can't just get rid of him. As for Zane... Nuff said

[BorkBot]

Goremancer; as cruel as it sounds, lynching Sumikoko may teach us something about Dust and Zane.

I especially want to know about Zane, but the investigator won't come forward right now, for obvious reasons. Dead doctor and all.

[McJesus]

honestly I don't think sumi has been that scummy in the first place

[TheWaaagh]

I'm utilizing WIFOM to my maximum capability this game, which would be helpful if I were the Mafia, but I'm not. Umad? :)

See, it's this that makes a compelling case for your lynch. What do you have to gain from acting like scum? You could say it's because you're a town PR afraid of being killed, but if that were the case, you wouldn't have started day 1 acting like scum. It would only make sense to start today after the Doctor died.

Given how easily you gave up your information as the Doctor in the previous FM, and the fact that we still have other roles that could protect you, I'm surprised you haven't felt pressured into a role-claim yet. I think this is because you can't. And I think that's why you continue to resort to the "I'm so scummy there's no way I'm scum, lawls" tactic.

I'm not falling for it though, better to be an idiot that killed someone who refused to properly defend themselves, than to be an idiot that let scum continue to live for being "too guilty".

Vote Sumikoko

Sorry bud, but if you really are town right now I hate this strategy. It's hard enough looking through scumtells on day two without having to worry about our own town acting apeshit just because their afraid of getting axed at night.Which, btw, would be the only reason for wanting to act as scummy as you have.

Vote Tally
Skip (1): Nick
Kromos (3): Luna, McPwnage, Deathfire123
Sumikoko (7): Zane, BorkBot, Goremancer, Dust, TheWaaagh
Deathfire123(1): Kromos
Luna(2): BBmolla, wolfcheese

[Goremancer]

...would it be bad to vote for zane? lol don't think of me as a scum because of that line

[BorkBot]

At this point, yes it'd be bad. Zane has gone to sleep and won't return before the day is over. Meaning we will get no information out of him. And just lynching him might end up being a lot more costly than lynching sumikoko.