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oops_ur_dead
December 10th, 2016, 10:54 AM
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304/cia-concludes-russian-interference-aimed-to-elect-trump

holy fucking shit russia literally controlled this entire election

first they hacked DNC emails and released them completely fucking up clinton's campaign, also evidence of other types of tampering

now it comes out that they have the RNC emails too but they held them

99.99% certain they're gonna use those emails to blackmail the Trump administration

mfw americans (mostly trumples tbh) think america beat the communists and won the cold war but in reality russia has taken control of the entire country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics


The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of [ethnic] Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution." The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the USA, and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us."


The book has had a large influence within the Russian military, police, and foreign policy elites[1] and was allegedly used as a textbook in the General Staff Academy of Russian military.


Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe.


United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe.


Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "“Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.


Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.


The book emphasizes that Russia must spread Anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S."

BEST PART


Russia should use its special forces within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism. For instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics."

Mateo
December 10th, 2016, 12:38 PM
These memes r spicy as week old goulash.

plz stop trying to push ur limp-dick memes.

Orpz
December 10th, 2016, 01:13 PM
Directly from Wikileaks AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5c8u9l/we_are_the_wikileaks_staff_despite_our_editor/

The people answering the questions have been verified too. Some highlights:

"Insurance files are made from unpublished files we are still working through. As soon as we can we will publish all submissions we received that adhere to our editorial strategy."
"We decide for maximum impact, source protection etc with the goal to publish as soon as possible after submission as we are ready (things like source protection and validation can take some time) according to our editorial policies. "

Klingoncelt
December 10th, 2016, 05:15 PM
The question we need answered is when did Trump know what Putin was doing?

Was it back when he was demanding Obama's birth certificate?

Was it during the debates with Hillary?

At any point prior to his taking office he's in a bad place, but if it comes out that he knew prior to Hillary's concession phone call, then we have treason.

Cryptonic
December 10th, 2016, 05:24 PM
Russia is only relevant because they have nukes.

Cryptonic
December 10th, 2016, 05:27 PM
Also, if anyone thinks Hillary lost due to emails being released, then lol

Helz
December 10th, 2016, 05:31 PM
I can't get the link to load.

Also; should we put any value in anything coming from a website called 'Rawstory'? They don't even supply any identity information. Could be one of those fake news outlets..

Helz
December 10th, 2016, 05:38 PM
Oh man.. This website is golden..
Antisemite profits from Seinfield
Cadillac disavows neo-nazi in ad
Drunken Santacon bar craw (SANTACON!!!!!!)
"Republicans have stripped the country of its lst shred of morality"
Along with like 50 storys targeting trump. This is kinda comical

Gyrlander
December 10th, 2016, 05:39 PM
I can't get the link to load.

Also; should we put any value in anything coming from a website called 'Rawstory'? They don't even supply any identity information. Could be one of those fake news outlets..

It appeared on the Spanish's news so... I would say it is kinda confirmed.

BananaCucho
December 10th, 2016, 05:42 PM
It appeared on the Spanish's news so... I would say it is kinda confirmed.

I love Telemundo!

Helz
December 10th, 2016, 05:43 PM
Yeah. But... I mean... The presidential election is important and all. But we should really focus on the things that really matter..
LIKE FUCKING SANTACON!!!! Holy shit I had no idea this was a thing. I am totally going to Santacon sometime and getting lit

Quick
December 10th, 2016, 06:00 PM
Oh man.. This website is golden..
Antisemite profits from Seinfield
Cadillac disavows neo-nazi in ad
Drunken Santacon bar craw (SANTACON!!!!!!)
"Republicans have stripped the country of its lst shred of morality"
Along with like 50 storys targeting trump. This is kinda comical

This.

oops_ur_dead
December 10th, 2016, 06:49 PM
Oh man.. This website is golden..
Antisemite profits from Seinfield
Cadillac disavows neo-nazi in ad
Drunken Santacon bar craw (SANTACON!!!!!!)
"Republicans have stripped the country of its lst shred of morality"
Along with like 50 storys targeting trump. This is kinda comical


This.

Yeah the site I linked is garbage, it was just the first source I found when googling it. Here you go:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/10/how-russian-hackers-can-blackmail-donald-trump-and-the-gop.html
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304/cia-concludes-russian-interference-aimed-to-elect-trump
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

Apocist
December 10th, 2016, 07:09 PM
ABC news TV channel also broadcasted about it

Helz
December 10th, 2016, 07:10 PM
Yeah the site I linked is garbage, it was just the first source I found when googling it. Here you go:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/12/10/how-russian-hackers-can-blackmail-donald-trump-and-the-gop.html
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/10/505072304/cia-concludes-russian-interference-aimed-to-elect-trump
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

Wow. Even NPR is butblasting the republicans for this. Thats kinda crazy.

I really do still feel like we were fucked either way. Hillary was bought and paid for by foreign interests while it now appears that Trump was elevated by foreign interests. Regardless of who won the American public looses.

Till selfish gain no longer stain,
The banner of the free

Apocist
December 10th, 2016, 07:29 PM
Wow. Even NPR is butblasting the republicans for this. Thats kinda crazy.

I really do still feel like we were fucked either way. Hillary was bought and paid for by foreign interests while it now appears that Trump was elevated by foreign interests. Regardless of who won the American public looses.

Till selfish gain no longer stain,
The banner of the free

Thought it was pretty obvious that America was screwed either way when the elections started.

Orpz
December 10th, 2016, 11:27 PM
Wow. Even NPR is butblasting the republicans for this. Thats kinda crazy.

I really do still feel like we were fucked either way. Hillary was bought and paid for by foreign interests while it now appears that Trump was elevated by foreign interests. Regardless of who won the American public looses.

Till selfish gain no longer stain,
The banner of the free

Have the intelligence agencies confirmed this?

Helz
December 10th, 2016, 11:28 PM
NPR said they did. And its NPR.. So I kinda think yeah

-edit
Although Russia did not control anything. It just appears that they made an effort to favor Trump over Hillary because they released democrat emails and not republicans. Its not like everyone didnt know Hillary was a snake before they released those emails

PowersThatBe
December 10th, 2016, 11:36 PM
Don't blame me...I voted for Bernie.

No matter what happens moving forward. It's not going to be good.

oops_ur_dead
December 11th, 2016, 09:08 AM
I really do still feel like we were fucked either way. Hillary was bought and paid for by foreign interests while it now appears that Trump was elevated by foreign interests. Regardless of who won the American public looses.


I mean yeah I guess Hillary was kinda bad because she got corporate kickbacks but you can't say that even comes close to a candidate who directly feeds into a plan for global Russian control.

Orpz
December 11th, 2016, 10:38 PM
http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-intelligence-briefings-skip-2016-12

NO BRAKES

oops_ur_dead
December 13th, 2016, 06:39 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-trump.html
http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-haar-trumponomics-will-hurt-trump-supporters-20161111-story.html

FUCKING LMFAO

Im not sure which meme is better so Im gonna put it up to a poll

1) Trump gathered votes by saying he's gonna "drain the swamp" and claiming he's opposed to politicians like Hillary who are bribed by corporate kickbacks, then decides the best course of action is to directly place the same CEOs and executives giving those kickbacks in direct control of the country.

2) Trump claimed he's going to "Make America Great Again", but his planned policies will probably fuck over his voters more than Clinton voters.

3) Trump invoked the memory of Ronald Reagan, and ran under the same party, then proceeded to suck Russia's dick and was directly supported by Russia, falling in line with Russia's plan for domination, while Reagan fucking despised Russia.

Orpz
December 13th, 2016, 07:50 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-trump.html
http://www.courant.com/politics/hc-haar-trumponomics-will-hurt-trump-supporters-20161111-story.html

FUCKING LMFAO

Im not sure which meme is better so Im gonna put it up to a poll

1) Trump gathered votes by saying he's gonna "drain the swamp" and claiming he's opposed to politicians like Hillary who are bribed by corporate kickbacks, then decides the best course of action is to directly place the same CEOs and executives giving those kickbacks in direct control of the country.

2) Trump claimed he's going to "Make America Great Again", but his planned policies will probably fuck over his voters more than Clinton voters.

3) Trump invoked the memory of Ronald Reagan, and ran under the same party, then proceeded to suck Russia's dick and was directly supported by Russia, falling in line with Russia's plan for domination, while Reagan fucking despised Russia.

2 is my favorite meme. I voted opposite of my family, knowing full well that all of Trump's policies would benefit us economically. Helping to prevent some families from starving on the streets matters more to me than my dad's disposable income rising. I feel some schadenfreude at how some people are going to get fucked over by exactly what they voted for, but wouldn't want that misfortune upon them if I could do anything about it.

Frozen Angel
December 15th, 2016, 05:19 AM
Trump is a businessman (and a showman tbh). With that in mind, the goal justifies the instruments

I think it was pretty obvious he actually don't care about america or anything else, but what he can understands its profits. That being said I still can't understand what he counts as a profit.

thedougler
December 15th, 2016, 06:21 AM
The question we need answered is when did Trump know what Putin was doing?

Was it back when he was demanding Obama's birth certificate?

Was it during the debates with Hillary?

At any point prior to his taking office he's in a bad place, but if it comes out that he knew prior to Hillary's concession phone call, then we have treason.

How is it treason if he was going to benefit whether he acknowledged it or not? Do you seriously think if Putin had pulled strings for Hillary she would have hung her hat, said sorry and conceded the race? Like I seriously don't understand what the fuck the (largely Democratic) MSM expected him to do besides acknowledging the problem, which I guess is the one obvious thing he still hasn't done.


Also, if anyone thinks Hillary lost due to emails being released, then lol

This. She lost because she is a career politician running against a guy who liberals forget was actually quite popular among the reality TV and wrestling demographic before he ran for office. It just always seemed to me like the media was going out of their way the entire time to paint the worst possible picture of him and ignoring all other perspectives. Many Republicans were put off by his antics but a far larger amount were drawn in by his "honesty" or non-adherence to PC. I still think his debate persona was largely an act. (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/5d8zop/serious_people_who_have_met_or_dealt_with_donald/)

Klingoncelt
December 16th, 2016, 01:11 PM
You're clearly siding with a foreign entity.

You're also running with the fake news mantra.

When you learn how to properly argue a failed point, bring your treasonous ass over to USMB.

I'm Grandma there.

I live in the Flame Zone.

Cryptonic
December 16th, 2016, 01:52 PM
How is he treasonous lol

Orpz
December 16th, 2016, 03:03 PM
How is it treason if he was going to benefit whether he acknowledged it or not? Do you seriously think if Putin had pulled strings for Hillary she would have hung her hat, said sorry and conceded the race? Like I seriously don't understand what the fuck the (largely Democratic) MSM expected him to do besides acknowledging the problem, which I guess is the one obvious thing he still hasn't done.

You answered it: he should acknowledge the problem instead of mock the assessments from the intelligence services. Nobody can realistically expect him to concede, but the fact that he would rather criticize the CIA instead of work with them is completely unbecoming of a President.

Cryptonic
December 16th, 2016, 03:17 PM
You answered it: he should acknowledge the problem instead of mock the assessments from the intelligence services. Nobody can realistically expect him to concede, but the fact that he would rather criticize the CIA instead of work with them is completely unbecoming of a President.

How can he work with a system that is fighting against him?

Orpz
December 16th, 2016, 03:58 PM
How can he work with a system that is fighting against him?

It's his job to do it. Obama was the ultimate anti-establishment candidate in 2008, and also had to work with the system resisting him. As the next outsider, Trump has to do the same thing. How he does it is up to him

Cryptonic
December 16th, 2016, 04:02 PM
It's his job to do it. Obama was the ultimate anti-establishment candidate in 2008, and also had to work with the system resisting him. As the next outsider, Trump has to do the same thing. How he does it is up to him

I understand, I was just wondering how a person successful works with an intelligence branch of government that is issuing reports against his legitimacy.

Like, the logistics

oops_ur_dead
December 16th, 2016, 10:33 PM
I understand, I was just wondering how a person successful works with an intelligence branch of government that is issuing reports against his legitimacy.

Like, the logistics

The reports aren't really questioning the legitimacy of the election, rather bringing to light that the election was tampered with by Russia in several ways. These include Russia selectively leaking emails to favor Republicans, and potentially psyops stuff like astroturfing and spreading conspiracy theories. Then there are the worries that Russia has dirt on the Republicans that they'll use to blackmail them in the future.

The first thing Trump can do is to not try to sweep the issue under the carpet and pretend that the CIA are making things up. He could work with the CIA to prevent issues like this in the future, acknowledging that although the ordeal helped him enter office it's detrimental to American democracy. And he could try to work with the CIA to quell any damage that Russia could potentially cause through blackmail.

Realistically, he won't do any that because Trump voters either don't care that he was propped up by Russia, or they're eating up his narrative of "wow this is just another liberal lie perpetrated by the MSM".

Klingoncelt
December 17th, 2016, 01:01 PM
If this were one of the M-FM games everyone would agree that Trump's acting scummy.