Who are you voting for? (Actually inclusive poll)

[BananaCucho]

If we're going to do this we are going to do this right

[Frog]

Fair enough.

I see your point.

Even though Johnson, Stein, 'Other' will never become president, you don't see it as wasting a vote but measuring the potential start of a movement going forward.

In this case I vote for myself as other.

I wish to be the leader of my own domain and receive federal funding for telling people about my desires.

[Brendan]

Voting 3rd party is pretty BrokeBack with the way our election system works. Vote 3rd party for your local office positions if you want to vote 3rd party.

[BananaCucho]

Voting 3rd party is pretty BrokeBack tier with the way our election system works. Vote 3rd party for your local office positions if you want to vote 3rd party.

5% of the vote for a third party means they get federal funding for the next election. Not pointless.

[Brendan]

5% of the vote for a third party means they get federal funding for the next election. Not pointless.

How much

[DarknessB]

How much

$20m

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml

[yzb25]

$20m

http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml

I am ignorant. Is that a good amount of funding for a political campaign? I thought Sanders/Trump/Clinton got 100s of millions in funding for the nominations alone.

[Frog]

How much

Probably the same as any other party.

A $10 million repayment on loans.

Imagine you're self funding up to $10 million.

Then you use that $10 million at your own establishments (food, travel, accounting, strategists, media) - basically you're cycling that money back into your pockets.

Plus you get $10 million from federal funding of you make it that far.

You've just made money running an election win or lose.

Sound familiar?

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9f7412236962464f9f2c0a8d2696ba25/trumps-campaign-cycles-6-million-trump-companies

[Brendan]

$20 mil is nothing for a political campaign.

[BananaCucho]

How much

Its based on the the ratio of the party’s popular vote in the preceding presidential election to the average popular vote of the two major party candidates in that election.

So around 10 million at least - considering that Stein has raised only under 2 million this election and Johnson has raised under 8, the would provide a significant leap in the movements each party is trying to create

[BananaCucho]

$20 mil is nothing for a political campaign.

Johnson is polling around 10 percent on 8 million dollars.

Starting a campaign with 10-20 million to help them build infrastructure and kick off fundraising could help change politics quite a bit.

[Brendan]

I would have voted Ron Paul if he was running. Gary Johnson LUL

[Orpz]

Fair enough.

I see your point.

Even though Johnson, Stein, 'Other' will never become president, you don't see it as wasting a vote but measuring the potential start of a movement going forward.

In this case I vote for myself as other.

I wish to be the leader of my own domain and receive federal funding for telling people about my desires.

Sounds like some AnCap memes are in order
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[BananaCucho]

A growing percentage of Americans want more options than the two we are given every four years and find the parties less and less representative of what they believe in and stand for.

The main thing killing third parties is recognition. If people knew who they were they would do better and raise more money. A federal head start helps that.

[Cryptonic]

Saying not to vote 3rd party because they don't have a chance is not how democracy works. If people see third parties slowly gaining traction over multiple elections, people will start seeing them as a viable choice. But to tell people not to vote third party is all is totally flawed.

[Cryptonic]

https://67.media.tumblr.com/31c29a97da841095331e5d8203d1eb34/tumblr_ob8a3sBV621truqn2o1_500.jpg

[BananaCucho]

I would have voted Ron Paul if he was running. Gary Johnson LUL

Yeah Johnson is a fool.

Ron Paul didn't endorse Stein persay, but he did have good things to say about her.

http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/751482

[DarknessB]

Its based on the the ratio of the party’s popular vote in the preceding presidential election to the average popular vote of the two major party candidates in that election.

So around 10 million at least - considering that Stein has raised only under 2 million this election and Johnson has raised under 8, the would provide a significant leap in the movements each party is trying to create

Yeah, Johnson could use some of that $20m to hire some advisors to teach him about Aleppo and foreign leaders, lol.

[DarknessB]

Saying not to vote 3rd party because they don't have a chance is not how democracy works. If people see third parties slowly gaining traction over multiple elections, people will start seeing them as a viable choice. But to tell people not to vote third party is all is totally flawed.

Yeah, pretty much telling people not to vote third party means third parties will never be viable. Had Perot not been a derp and dropped out, he was in a good position to win a number of states in 1992 and be a big time spoiler -- i.e. it wasn't that long ago that a third party was pulling 20-30% in the polls. In June 1992, Perot was polling at 37% vs. 24% for Bush and Clinton each.

[Frog]

Yeah, Johnson could use some of that $20m to hire some advisors to teach him about Aleppo and foreign leaders, lol.

https://i.imgflip.com/1a8vjp.jpg

[Frog]

Sounds like some AnCap memes are in order
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/14569002_1099380573431950_168174513_n.jpg?oh=b139a edd6eb47363d321d8b24080a97a&oe=57F93755
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/14610825_1099380560098618_284949735_n.jpg?oh=c207a 6aba672e102e023b8b516e530f3&oe=57F94BA1
Don't see the relevance but funny.

I mean honestly though - if everyone voted for themselves only - would we then have democratically empowered anarchy?

[Mateo]

i would vote jill stein if she didnt pander to antivaxxers and other supporters of junk science

[BananaCucho]

i would vote jill stein if she didnt pander to antivaxxers and other supporters of junk science

This is the one thing that has me on the fence about her.

That fence is between voting her or a write in for Mickey Mouse though. Fuck voting Hillary

[DarknessB]

This is the one thing that has me on the fence about her.

That fence is between voting her or a write in for Mickey Mouse though. Fuck voting Hillary

Fence --> Wall --> Mexico paying for said Wall --> Trump --> Make America Great Again!

[Mateo]

This is the one thing that has me on the fence about her.

That fence is between voting her or a write in for Mickey Mouse though. Fuck voting Hillary

if the nuclear arsenal wasnt at stake i would vote stein simply in the hopes that next election cycle the green party would be funded and nominate a worthy candidate. but it is, so i wont

[BananaCucho]

if the nuclear arsenal wasnt at stake i would vote stein simply in the hopes that next election cycle the green party would be funded and nominate a worthy candidate. but it is, so i wont

That's called fear mongering my friend

[Mateo]

That's called fear mongering my friend

i see it as pragmatism. trump is goose stepping the gop into irrelevancy; soon it will be a vestige of the past like the whig party. and then we can have real progress

[oops_ur_dead]

I have heard your voices, and modified the other thread to be more inclusive for third-party candidates. Where possible, I have transferred over votes from this thread. I will close this thread now, as it is redundant.