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RLVG
March 10th, 2016, 12:06 PM
RLVG's Secret Setup

Setup (Click Me) (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34395-S-FM-RLVG-s-Secret-Setup?p=547495&viewfull=1#post547495)


Signs (13 required):

- Mikecall (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12639-Mikecall)
- Sen (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/9472-Sen)
- ika (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/6424-ika)
- SilverWolf (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/14298-SilverWolf)
- deathworlds (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/9527-deathworlds) (Currently hosting a M-FM, will sign if done before S-FM start)
- Kuragari42 (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/27977-Kuragari42)
- secondpassing (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/16431-secondpassing)
- Funce (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/6381-Funce)
- michalodzien (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/7817-michalodzien)
- freebird (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/28011-freebird)
- AIVION (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/17924-AIVION)
- SuperJack (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/8508-SuperJack)
- Calix (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/27116-Calix)
- Firebringer (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/15644-Firebringer)
- Hinata (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/26330-Hinata)
- BananaCucho (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/10111-BananaCucho) (WELCOME BACK!)
- Takumi (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/28072-Takumi)
- Gyrlander (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/11750-Gyrlander)
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Reserves (signs that didn't get put in game is placed here) :

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Spectate (sadists who like to watch stuff happen) :

- Toadette (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/24216-Toadette)
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Rules :

No OOG (Out of Game chatting, which means chatting about the game outside of the provided game thread and provided chat channels such as night chats)

No Serial Lurking, the host decides what's considered adequate activity, minimal posts per 24 hour is 3 to 5 posts.
One shouldn't simply post the minimum posts to check in and then lurk afterwards, the host will be able to see that too.
If one is forced away E.G neighbour drove a freaking bus through your home or an unannounced wedding, etc, please notify the host.
No quoting PM's from the host, no copypasting of anything from chat channels, no linking of chat channels if there is one.
Do not gamethrow. While win conditions are vague, it should be easy enough to understand.
The host will limit questions and answers, so feel free to put out bullshit answers. Certain questions may be answered for the convenience of the game.
No personal attacks. Joke insults may be on a thin line, but please respect the players.
No super massive pictures / GIFs (massive such as 1280x720), please limit it to one per post.
Videos must be under a spoiler tag and there must be no autoplay. If it's spoiler related E.G the ending of a movie, please give a warning on the spoiler.

Mikecall
March 10th, 2016, 12:15 PM
/sign

Shall be an intriguing game, wish of luck to all :).

Sen
March 10th, 2016, 03:11 PM
/k


Sent from my Y635-L03 using Tapatalk

Sen
March 10th, 2016, 03:14 PM
Fucking treacherous Tapatalk. >_>

RLVG
March 10th, 2016, 03:29 PM
/k


Sent from my Y635-L03 using Tapatalk

That's a sign, right? Just making sure. :blink1:

ika
March 10th, 2016, 03:31 PM
/in for RLVG

Sen
March 10th, 2016, 03:33 PM
That's a sign, right? Just making sure. :blink1:
Yup.

RLVG
March 10th, 2016, 03:59 PM
Just saying that if there's more than 13 signs, I will randomize between all the signers for who gets in and who becomes a priority reserve.
That's why there's 25 slots of signs lol.

SilverWolf
March 10th, 2016, 04:01 PM
/sign

Toadette
March 10th, 2016, 04:03 PM
/spectate only

deathworlds
March 10th, 2016, 04:11 PM
/conditional sign on account that I have a M-FM to host. Will sign if my game is over before yours starts.

RLVG
March 10th, 2016, 04:15 PM
/conditional sign on account that I have a M-FM to host. Will sign if my game is over before yours starts.

It's soon night 2 from what I see, so the M-FM might last for a while longer. I'll write that your sign is conditional for when the M-FM is over.
Signs might be a bit slow anyway because of the M-FM as expected.

deathworlds
March 10th, 2016, 06:30 PM
It's soon night 2 from what I see, so the M-FM might last for a while longer. I'll write that your sign is conditional for when the M-FM is over.
Signs might be a bit slow anyway because of the M-FM as expected.

thanks fam

Kuragari42
March 11th, 2016, 01:37 PM
/in

secondpassing
March 11th, 2016, 01:45 PM
/sign

Welcome to sc2mafia Kuragari42

Funce
March 12th, 2016, 04:39 PM
/signed by the FunyunsMasta
I so wish to be in this.

michalodzien
March 13th, 2016, 11:30 AM
/sign

Orpz
March 15th, 2016, 12:48 AM
Bump!

freebird
March 15th, 2016, 10:04 AM
/in

AIVION
March 19th, 2016, 02:03 PM
/spectate

Sounds like fun, but too chaotic for my newbieness. xD

SuperJack
March 19th, 2016, 02:57 PM
There are a few other new people it seems.

AIVION
March 19th, 2016, 06:57 PM
There are a few other new people it seems.

You're right.. screw it.
/sign me up instead. I'll take the plunge.

SuperJack
March 20th, 2016, 02:51 AM
/sign

SuperJack
March 20th, 2016, 02:52 AM
Where is The Paladin :(

Calix
March 20th, 2016, 03:22 AM
Oh fuck it. I really don't have any standards. Just prod everyone to make sure they are still playing first :|

/sign

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 03:37 AM
Oh fuck it. I really don't have any standards. Just prod everyone to make sure they are still playing first :|

/sign
Explains so much.
I would sign, but....I don't want to?

Calix
March 20th, 2016, 03:39 AM
Explains so much.
I would sign, but....I don't want to?

You're right. It explains why I continue to talk to you.

There's a '/reserve' option as well.

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 03:41 AM
You're right. It explains why I continue to talk to you.

There's a '/reserve' option as well.
You know whats funny. I was going to say that explains why you talk to me all the time. Ha, we are on a weird wavelength where we both like to insult me.

Calix
March 20th, 2016, 03:44 AM
You know whats funny. I was going to say that explains why you talk to me all the time. Ha, we are on a weird wavelength where we both like to insult me.

True love, folks.

https://45.media.tumblr.com/2fafa3e8a764278cda835cf88aa42f48/tumblr_n9y1t0uIwH1tpbsvno1_500.gif

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 03:47 AM
Going to ask questions here. First off I want to point out, our site literally can't do a Closed Setup. Its too troll for us. The concept in itself is foreign.

Second looking at what we do know: (Wow I read it before I am signing)

Explain logical ties? For instance if two scum teams, which would be logical?

If roles change, does that also work on alignments? Or just the role mechanics?

If two players are tied in votes, how does that resolve for a lynch?

Can we expect cult as a possible role/alignment?

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 03:48 AM
True love, folks.


I am married to the job hun.

Calix
March 20th, 2016, 03:49 AM
We're on sc2mafia, nothing is too troll for us.

I could post an entirely bastard setup and people would play it :)

*totally not hinting*

Calix
March 20th, 2016, 03:50 AM
I am married to the job hun.

You're going to let down Avi and MingeZed. I'm sure they're waiting for the make-outs.

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 03:52 AM
/conditional sign that my questions are answered in a satisfactory manner.

Now time to get ready for another crazy closed setup for us.

Mikecall
March 20th, 2016, 03:54 AM
Another? xD, will be an interesting one indeed.

Mikecall
March 20th, 2016, 05:01 AM
However, do you think I can be put on /reserve?

RLVG
March 20th, 2016, 05:16 AM
Explain logical ties? For instance if two scum teams, which would be logical?

If roles change, does that also work on alignments? Or just the role mechanics?

If two players are tied in votes, how does that resolve for a lynch?

Can we expect cult as a possible role/alignment?

1. Town doesn't win in a tie situation, scum vs another would depending if they can kill / cannot be killed and what alignment they are (refer to standard alignment scum ties).
That's pretty much all I can say without Le Spoilerz.



2. Mainly role mechanics, but there may or may not be a few exceptions.



3. I'll randomize tied voters. I randomize the list and pick the top one. We got tie voted, you got lynched.



FireBringer
RLVG

Timestamp: 2016-03-20 11:57:54 UTC, IP: 88.88.37.101





4. They may or may not exist.

RLVG
March 20th, 2016, 05:19 AM
However, do you think I can be put on /reserve?

You can be on Reserve if you want, just note that there's a priority if too many signs.
14 players signs for it, there's 13 slots so 1 guy is going to be left out. He's #1 on the priority on Reserve.

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 05:26 AM
1. Town doesn't win in a tie situation, scum vs another would depending if they can kill / cannot be killed and what alignment they are (refer to standard alignment scum ties).
That's pretty much all I can say without Le Spoilerz.



2. Mainly role mechanics, but there may or may not be a few exceptions.



3. I'll randomize tied voters. I randomize the list and pick the top one. We got tie voted, you got lynched.




4. They may or may not exist.
So if its 1 Werewolf vs 1 Terrorist for example. Who has priority? Or can you really not go into this? Would you random that situation?

If a role changes that is part of a group are the other members informed of a change?

RLVG
March 20th, 2016, 05:33 AM
So if its 1 Werewolf vs 1 Terrorist for example. Who has priority? Or can you really not go into this? Would you random that situation?

If a role changes that is part of a group are the other members informed of a change?




1. In that situation, it depends who can kill. If the Terrorist can kill the Werewolf, they win. If the Werewolf can kill the Terrorist, they win. If both can kill eachothers, then Neutral Evil / Killer would take priority which is the Werewolf.
Edit : I don't actually know what variant of Werewolf you're asking about tho.

2. There won't be any alignment changes on players already in a group, say two mafia and one of them turns into neutral.
If that was the case in any context, it would be a focused witch hunt.

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 05:35 AM
Okay well I am satisfied, full sign.
I am assuming NAR is in place as well?

RLVG
March 20th, 2016, 05:36 AM
What's NAR?

Firebringer
March 20th, 2016, 05:37 AM
What's NAR?


Natural Action Resolution.
Its a type of order of operations.

Here:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Natural_Action_Resolution

RLVG
March 20th, 2016, 05:56 AM
Switch the position of one or two and the NAR is accurate.

RLVG
March 28th, 2016, 02:09 PM
Alright, I'll be hosting this soon - when there's an adequate amount of signs outside of hidden conditions from PMs or whatever!

SilverWolf
March 30th, 2016, 07:43 AM
/out

Hinata
March 30th, 2016, 08:26 AM
/in

BananaCucho
March 30th, 2016, 09:06 AM
/sign

Let's see if I can still do this

Calix
March 30th, 2016, 09:12 AM
/sign

Let's see if I can still do this

Toadette, you should definitely sign now ^.^

SilverWolf
March 30th, 2016, 01:45 PM
Actually,

/back in

I have reconsidered it

secondpassing
April 1st, 2016, 08:55 AM
I have returned. (no longer on vacation)

RLVG
April 2nd, 2016, 07:20 AM
I'll be starting the game soon. I just need to ask someone a certain thing.

Takum1
April 3rd, 2016, 09:35 AM
/in?

Gyrlander
April 3rd, 2016, 01:13 PM
/in?

Exactly the same.
(/in?)

RLVG
April 3rd, 2016, 09:34 PM
When I get back from work, I'll get the sign list done and send PM for verification that they're up for the game.

Edit : Lol 18 signs.

MattZed
April 3rd, 2016, 09:48 PM
Suggestion: allow players to hydra if they want so more players can participate.

DarknessB
April 3rd, 2016, 09:55 PM
Suggestion: allow players to hydra if they want so more players can participate.

LOL, I can see this is our site's flavor of the month now. :)

RLVG
April 3rd, 2016, 09:57 PM
Suggestion: allow players to hydra if they want so more players can participate.

Hmm, that's actually a good idea, only issue is that we have 13 slots so not everyone can be a hydra.

RLVG
April 3rd, 2016, 10:07 PM
Announcement :

If you want to do a Hydra, that is one account shared among multiple players, then contact me first.
I'll allow hydras of two players or three players based on signs vs reserves.

Anyway, off to work soon, sending verification PM's later today.

Gyrlander
April 4th, 2016, 02:26 AM
I don't mind hydraing But it is my first game so I don't knoe if anyone would like to owo

SilverWolf
April 4th, 2016, 05:34 AM
ika and I can use our Empathy17 hydra for this one
@RLVG (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=6656)

AIVION
April 4th, 2016, 06:07 AM
SuperJack:
Wanna Give Nicolas Cage another spin drive for this game?!? :P

You totally should say yes.

RLVG
April 4th, 2016, 11:11 AM
List randomized.






Takumi
- freebird
- Sen
Mikecall
- ika (Hydra with Silverwolf)
- Firebringer
- Kuragari42
- SuperJack
- Gyrlander
- BananaCucho
- Calix
- deathworlds (Currently hosting a M-FM, will sign if done before S-FM start)
- Hinata
- Funce (Will be in place of deathworlds if he's too busy with M-FM)



Potential reserve list :






- secondpassing
- Funce / deathworlds
- michalodzien
- AIVION



I can allow one or two hydras with the reserve picking a current sign that isn't already a hydra.



Sending confirmation PMs.

Kuragari42
April 4th, 2016, 03:10 PM
Sorry, gotta /out

RLVG
April 4th, 2016, 03:22 PM
Sorry, gotta /out

Very well.

TheDankestMeme
April 5th, 2016, 06:03 PM
They say he's a war hero because he was lynched. He's not a war hero. I like people that weren't lynched.

BananaCucho
April 5th, 2016, 06:03 PM
They say he's a war hero because he was lynched. He's not a war hero. I like people that weren't lynched.

This is the banana+TDL hydra for this game.

Empathy17
April 5th, 2016, 06:07 PM
ika and I can use our Empathy17 hydra for this one
@RLVG (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php?u=6656)

FYI for all-this is the hydra

secondpassing
April 5th, 2016, 08:04 PM
I got SELECTED.

That's right! While all of you were randomized, I was SELECTED.
I feel special.

(As per his will, I will be playing in this game.)

hf dd dds

RLVG
April 6th, 2016, 11:04 AM
If Hinata doesn't answer withing 24 hours, I'll have to pick one of the reserves.

Then all have confirmed and we can start.

Calix
April 6th, 2016, 11:08 AM
If Hinata doesn't answer withing 24 hours, I'll have to pick one of the reserves.

Then all have confirmed and we can start.

I'll spare you the time and just tell you that Hinata has flaked out of two games now. (Greater Idea and R+J) Pick a reliable reserve and start now.

SuperJack
April 6th, 2016, 11:11 AM
I'll spare you the time and just tell you that Hinata has flaked out of two games now. (Greater Idea and R+J) Pick a reliable reserve and start now.

No. That is unfair.

Borderline Crazy Dealers
April 6th, 2016, 11:22 AM
No. That is unfair.

The reason you're defending him is because you can relate.

If someone has a history of not playing, they should not get priority. There is no point in accepting him when you will just have to use a reserve later.

(can't log out of account since multiple players are using it and posting)

SuperJack
April 6th, 2016, 11:29 AM
The reason you're defending him is because you can relate.

If someone has a history of not playing, they should not get priority. There is no point in accepting him when you will just have to use a reserve later.

(can't log out of account since multiple players are using it and posting)

The reason I'm defending this person is because they have yet to play a game and that your just being inconsiderate and inpatient.

They are a new player to this site and deserve to be given a chance. This is the sort of attitude that deters people.

Borderline Crazy Dealers
April 6th, 2016, 12:09 PM
The reason I'm defending this person is because they have yet to play a game and that your just being inconsiderate and inpatient.

They are a new player to this site and deserve to be given a chance. This is the sort of attitude that deters people.

They have signed for games before - two of them - and did not even show up. That isn't 'new' that's just flaky. There are legitimately new players in the reserves list; they should be given a chance over someone who has AFKed twice now.

Sen
April 6th, 2016, 12:18 PM
I can confirm. Hinata is one of the new players I accepted into my last game, and had to replace them due to not posting a single time.

This isn't a matter of new player as much as it is a matter of unreliable player.

SuperJack
April 6th, 2016, 12:38 PM
And they could of just missed the game starting given that the sign-ups stay off for a week or two, and the game starts suddenly in 24 hours.

Stop being ducks and give people a chance.

/unsigned

/reserve

I see your complaining about how some new players ate not getting the chance to partake. Yet you don't have the decency to back out and let them play. Instead of yourselves playing another game along with the game you are already playing.

Borderline Crazy Dealers
April 6th, 2016, 12:43 PM
And they could of just missed the game starting given that the sign-ups stay off for a week or two, and the game starts suddenly in 24 hours.

Stop being ducks and give people a chance.

/unsigned

/reserve

I see your complaining about how some new players ate not getting the chance to partake. Yet you don't have the decency to back out and let them play. Instead of yourselves playing another game along with the game you are already playing.

They were in Greater Idea for most of the game and never posted. They only died because their Lover died also.

Continue being salty. You barely play the games you sign up for nowadays so I can see how you'd take this as a personal affront.

SuperJack
April 6th, 2016, 12:50 PM
They were in Greater Idea for most of the game and never posted. They only died because their Lover died also.

Continue being salty. You barely play the games you sign up for nowadays so I can see how you'd take this as a personal affront.

L.o.L.

Sen
April 6th, 2016, 01:00 PM
I sent the rolecards 24 hours in advance, then I sent every player a PM letting them know that the game had started.
Even the other guy apologized after being replaced.

I'm all for new people coming, but I don't see why you need to go out of your way and try to excuse someone who has proven in multiple ocassions that they are unreliable. Wanna give spots to new players? Then let's give them to new players who actually want to play the games they sign up for.

Also, I said in the other game that I'll hydra with whoever wants to play. Hydras are the best way to let new players start getting involved; if they actually play, then you get to know a new player and people know that you can rely on them for future games. If they never show up, then at least they don't affect the game since the other player can carry the hydra alone.

Asking people to "back out" just so a known inactive player can get modkilled yet again is unreasonable.

TheDankestMeme
April 6th, 2016, 02:49 PM
New players are unattractive, both inside and out. I fully understand why Sen left them for veteran players he made a good decision.

RLVG
April 6th, 2016, 05:22 PM
I'll be probably starting this tomorrow, cheers guys.

Takum1
April 6th, 2016, 05:28 PM
/unsign
/reserve.
Id rather just play one game at a time if that's alright

TheDankestMeme
April 6th, 2016, 05:39 PM
They are dropping like flies. I like flies, I like flies except they eat shit. That's not very American of them.

Stealthbomber16
April 6th, 2016, 06:55 PM
Whoa, Cucho is here?

I was gonna just not exist until school ends but
/sign
Lets DO this!

SuperJack
April 8th, 2016, 01:54 AM
Me and Hinata are hydraing.

/sign as hydra

Firebringer
April 8th, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jeez when is this going to begin!?!?!

SuperJack
April 8th, 2016, 03:24 AM
Jeez when is this going to begin!?!?!

When you play with me tonight.

RLVG
April 8th, 2016, 03:56 AM
Jeez when is this going to begin!?!?!

Later today!

Now there's a confirmed 13 slots.
I'll take note of Hinata and SuperJack hydraing, PM me who the hydra is.

Excalibur
April 11th, 2016, 10:05 AM
/sign for the 5 hour story telling party

RLVG
April 15th, 2016, 09:54 AM
Need a reserve that's actually active.