S-FM 172 Part 2:The Colder War

[Suntax]

S-FM part 2:The Colder War


Sign-up list
1.Comrade StealthBomber
2.Mushroom (toadette)
3.Lone Russian (yuki)
4.Real Life Viking Gamer (RLVG)
5.The hill filled with thorn bushes(thornholt)
6.Sensational (sen)
7. Crumpetz N' Tea (superjack)
8.Calixy Bar (calix)
9.The dark Comrade(DarknessB)
10.The second SunTAX (secondpassing)
11.Glorious Town leader (Firebringer)
12.HE RETURNS (MattZed)
13.insignificant call center (mikecall)

Reserves
1. Iced tea( iced monopoly)
2.Comrade Rach

Setup link-new one
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/34385-S-FM-Colder-war-restarted-setup?p=547321#post547321

[Thornholt]

/sign

[Thornholt]

/sign

I'm the hill filled with thorn bushes


or whatever name you give me XD

[Firebringer]

/signed with Fire.

Hopefully I am town instead of Neutral so everyone doesn't call me Neutral as a way to shit on my play >.>

[Yukitaka Oni]

/signed with Fire.

Hopefully I am town instead of Neutral so everyone doesn't call me Neutral as a way to shit on my play >.>
13.Glorious town leader (Sheriff/jailor)
You don't have to re-sign lol

[Orpz]

I'll reopen if I give the green light for a restart. Please see the game thread for what I require of you.

[SuperJack]

:sheep:

[Orpz]

Reopened. Please PM me if you plan to use the new setup.

[Sen]

http://ih0.redbubble.net/image.98232996.7213/raf,220x200,075,f,black.u1.jpg

[Iced_Monopoly]

I will sign if game commences on the 8th or after, otherwise just chuck me in as a reserve :)

[MattZed]

/sign, reserve if not possible

[RLVG]

/sign, reserve if not possible

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN

Missed you, bro.

[MattZed]

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN

Missed you, bro.
Life got busy, and then it didn't, and so MattZed returned.

[Suntax]

I heard good things from you Matt
if you have read the link it is wrong I was in the changing process please read the colder war thread
Thank you

[MattZed]

I heard good things from you Matt
if you have read the link it is wrong I was in the changing process please read the colder war thread
Thank you
Yes, comrade.

[DarknessB]

/sign, reserve if not possible

OMG, it's MikeZed!

[MattZed]

OMG, it's MikeZed!

Like Soviet Union, I never die, merely adapt.

[DarknessB]

Like Soviet Union, I never die, merely adapt.

You missed the insanity that was the first run of this game, lol. you would have enjoyed it. I replaced Mikecall as the Super TPR and everyone wanted to lynch me based on Mike digging himself into a hole beforehand.

[Sen]

everyone wanted to lynch me
Except me and Jack, but Jack was scum, so he doesn't count. >_>

[DarknessB]

Except me and Jack, but Jack was scum, so he doesn't count. >_>

Yeah, my hope is that the redo of this game will result in better play all around by people. Let's just call the first game a trial run. :)

[Suntax]

Yes it was a trial run
I am luckier then most first time hosts
trial run
real game next
also opinions on the new balancing in the setup plus ideas I am putting together in the comments

[Sen]

For future setups, I would suggest that you slightly more standard setups, and start doing changes one at a time; maybe using a single custom role on a game, then adding another for the next game, or mixing it with a special mechanic, so you get to see how the different things affect the game's balance and style, that way you can use your games as testing ground from new roles and mechanics without risking the whole thing becoming a mess because every single character on it is an experimental role paired with a mechanic you've never tried before.

Balancing an untested mafia setup is a very difficult task, and more so if you use custom roles like you are doing. Not that it is a bad thing -I love custom roles and mechanics-, but it is something that is pretty much impossible to do correctly if you make a setup full of custom roles and mechanics as your very first one.

One thing I usually do when trying to balance my setups is sitting back and pretending I get one oof the roles, then figuring out the most gamey, overpowered strategy to win with that role and the information and abilities I would get access to. Then I repeat that with every role until I'm sure there's no way for someone to abuse it. Of course, this is way easier with open setups, but a semi-open with a couple of hidden like on this setup shouldn't be much harder.

[Sen]

that you use* slightier*

[Suntax]

Thank you
I was planning a much smaller 8 or 9 player game next
but I wanted to set a challenge with my first sfm
I think I almost achieved that
all I need is this game to run smoothly and I will be successfull

[MattZed]

Yes it was a trial run
I am luckier then most first time hosts
trial run
real game next
also opinions on the new balancing in the setup plus ideas I am putting together in the comments
Fear not, comrade. My first hosted game was restarted after Day 1 host error/exploitation.

[DarknessB]

Fear not, comrade. My first hosted game was restarted after Day 1 host error/exploitation.

Was that your first hosted game? Somehow, I was under the impression that you had hosted before that.

[Suntax]

Yes my first hosting
why what made you think it was not

[DarknessB]

Yes my first hosting
why what made you think it was not

Oh, I was actually asking that to MattZed because I remember his game that got restarted too and thought that I had played in another one that he hosted before that.

[Suntax]

Oh sorry
I will just wait till I get asked more things on my setup thread

[Suntax]

To iced
I have work and other things irl
till the 7th
Will you be able to play around the 7th or 8th since nobody else can sign.
it's fine if you are unable however I would like some speed in starting.
otherwise any other players may join and thus I would start this earlier and use spare time to check up and not pop in every 5 mins.

[Thornholt]

I'm up for the remake btw

[Suntax]

ok we got mikecall in
i will be sending cards out
30 mins or so after cards are out i will be posting the game thread
See you all in Moscow Comrades

[Suntax]

Game thread made
have fun comrades

[Agoodboy]

Can I sign up?

[Rachyl]

/Sign when is this one starting?

[Mikecall]

You missed the insanity that was the first run of this game, lol. you would have enjoyed it. I replaced Mikecall as the Super TPR and everyone wanted to lynch me based on Mike digging himself into a hole beforehand.

It was insanity really, but hopefully, wont be making that mistake again. ;)

[Suntax]

unfortunately the game is fully filled and due to the moderator rule against my restart my game thread was locked for a while
it is to start up today however i will put you on the reserves

[GameFreak]

Reserve me up comrade.

[Toadette]

Reserve me up comrade.

There should be a /reserve-the-host option

:(

[Thornholt]

There should be a /reserve-the-host option

:(

lol so true... this game was gonna go far XD

[Thornholt]

YAAAY! Game not cancelled.

[Calix]

YAAAY! Game not cancelled.

He's got 22 hours left, lol. Let's not bet on it.

Man, sending out PMs must be really hard, almost like running a marathon.

[RLVG]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7MzQzFZUJHc/hqdefault.jpg

[Mikecall]

Just hoping he gets the game restarted, I dont want it to become the coldest war :(.

[Calix]

Just hoping he gets the game restarted, I dont want it to become the coldest war :(.

hai guise we can restart it here11!1!!!

I'm Sheriff.

Mikecall is Serial Godfather.

Lynch him, boys.

[DarknessB]

hai guise we can restart it here11!1!!!

I'm Sheriff.

Mikecall is Serial Godfather.

Lynch him, boys.

Town Leader confirmed!Mikecall

[Mikecall]

Me the Serial Godfather, sure I am ;), I am more like a lonely wanderer wanting to survive.

[Mikecall]

Mikecall = Survivor Of War, Discuss.

[DarknessB]

Me the Serial Godfather, sure I am ;), I am more like a lonely wanderer wanting to survive.

Sounds like a scum slip to me. Next thing, you're going to be telling me you didn't receive your Magikarp splash feedback on Night 0 even though Magikarp didn't get an action then!

[MattZed]

Sounds like a scum slip to me. Next thing, you're going to be telling me you didn't receive your Magikarp splash feedback on Night 0 even though Magikarp didn't get an action then!
Any action that gets accepted by the host should get feedback.

[Mikecall]

Sounds like a scum slip to me. Next thing, you're going to be telling me you didn't receive your Magikarp splash feedback on Night 0 even though Magikarp didn't get an action then!

It does doesnt it, also I remember reading through that S-FM before, was lovely.

[Calix]

Mikecall = Survivor Of War, Discuss.

Survivor? Confirmed non-town, lynch them all*

I'm legit.

Mikecall

Mikecall was lynched. His role was Jester.

[DarknessB]

Any action that gets accepted by the host should get feedback.

I love that we are still debating this 6 months later, lol. That was a fun game and very memorable moment. :)

[Sen]

Mikecall :muk:

[Mikecall]

Haha, thats what I actually want to happen with that spoiler ;),

Calix

Confirmed Mafia Buddy with DarknessB, we must investigate.

[Calix]

Haha, thats what I actually want to happen with that spoiler ;),

Calix

Confirmed Mafia Buddy with DarknessB, we must investigate.

That's Your Calixness to you, mate.

We're actually one person: The Godfather.

[Mikecall]

That's Your Calixness to you, mate.

We're actually one person: The Godfather.

I knew there was something on between you and darkness, the godfather, a catchy title for wanting to lynch such a lonely survivor.

[MattZed]

This might look like a sheep vote, but I actually have a reason behind it.

Mikecall

[Mikecall]

Do you Mattcall? what reason would that be? o.o

[DarknessB]

That's Your Calixness to you, mate.

We're actually one person: The Godfather.

We also get two night actions because we're awesome. Roleblock Mikecall AND night kill him.

[Calix]

This might look like a sheep vote, but I actually have a reason behind it.

Mikecall

You're Sheeper Agent? :)

[Sen]

Sheeps are important.

[Sen]

Also, why is your name brown and has no user group? That's unacceptable.

[MattZed]

Do you Mattcall? what reason would that be? o.o

I'm no- -ure you cou-d ac-ua--y under--and i- if I -o-d you, -o i-'- be--er -o ju-- -ynch you now.

[Mikecall]

Calix leading the sheeps to their demise, reminds me of an old tale with mice o.o.

[Sen]

I'm not sure you could actually understand it if I told you, so it's better to just lynch you now.
!!

[Mikecall]

I'm no- -ure you cou-d ac-ua--y under--and i- if I -o-d you, -o i-'- be--er -o ju-- -ynch you now.

:(, but I am the innocent bystander who would side with anyone, the towns anger o.o.

[Calix]

Also, why is your name brown and has no user group? That's unacceptable.

Admins.

That is all.

I wanted a name that wasn't white.

I got it.

[MattZed]

!!
A- -a--, -om-on- ha- r-p-ac-d R-VG -o -ran--a-- for m-! Much appr-cia--d, --n.

[Sen]

Admins.

That is all.

I wanted a name that wasn't white.

I got it.
BLASPHEMY!


At last, someone has replaced RLVG to translate for me! Much appreciated, Sen.
<3

[RLVG]

I'm no- -ure you cou-d ac-ua--y under--and i- if I -o-d you, -o i-'- be--er -o ju-- -ynch you now.

This is the setup.

1.StealthBomber
Potato

2.toadette
Tomato

3.yuki
Cabbage

4.RLVG
Farmer

5.Thornholt
Apple

6.Sen
Pear

7. Superjack
Melon

8.Calix
Grape

9.DarknessB
Red Berry

10.secondpassing
Red Berry

11.Firebringer
Blue Berry

12.MattZed
Blue Berry

13.mikecall
Blue Berry

:wm:

[Sen]

omg, yummies everywhere.

*stares at berries* :rolleyes:

[Calix]

This is the setup.

1.StealthBomber
Potato

2.toadette
Tomato

3.yuki
Cabbage

4.RLVG
Farmer

5.Thornholt
Apple

6.Sen
Pear

7. Superjack
Melon

8.Calix
Grape

9.DarknessB
Red Berry

10.secondpassing
Red Berry

11.Firebringer
Blue Berry

12.MattZed
Blue Berry

13.mikecall
Blue Berry

:wm:

Town is OP, pls nerf

Yuki and Toadette in a team. Elite.

[Sen]

I call dibs on the red berries.

[RLVG]

Me and MattZed refers to this silly game. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33199-S-FM-162-Watermeloann)

Fuck the non-existant fruit mafia.

[Mikecall]

The Ultimate Blue Berry, now thats lovely ;).

[Yukitaka Oni]

This is the setup.

1.StealthBomber
Potato

2.toadette
Tomato

3.yuki
Cabbage

4.RLVG
Farmer

5.Thornholt
Apple

6.Sen
Pear

7. Superjack
Melon

8.Calix
Grape

9.DarknessB
Red Berry

10.secondpassing
Red Berry

11.Firebringer
Blue Berry

12.MattZed
Blue Berry

13.mikecall
Blue Berry

:wm:
You have failed the motherland in reading scum list. Click start to retry

[Yukitaka Oni]

Town is OP, pls nerf

Yuki and Toadette in a team. Elite.
Confirmed, nerf Irelia

[Toadette]

Just hoping he gets the game restarted, I dont want it to become the coldest war :(.

Nobody sign for a 2nd reroll. I won't.

[DarknessB]

I'm no- -ure you cou-d ac-ua--y under--and i- if I -o-d you, -o i-'- be--er -o ju-- -ynch you now.

I have nightmares about trying to decipher these posts -- you sadist!

[DarknessB]

Admins.

That is all.

I wanted a name that wasn't white.

I got it.

In other words, resistance is futile?

[DarknessB]

Me and MattZed refers to this silly game. (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/33199-S-FM-162-Watermeloann)

Fuck the non-existant fruit mafia.

I remember MattZed's supposed daykill ability on fruit-themed characters that he screwed up -- that was so hilarious, lol.

[DarknessB]

Nobody sign for a 2nd reroll. I won't.

But, you're leaving the possibility open of signing for a 3rd reroll? I try to view things glass half full, Toadette. :)