FM XXV - Signups

[Forum Mafia GM]

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House Martell
Hidden Martell
Hidden Martell
Hidden Martell

House Lannister
Hidden Lannister
Hidden Lannister
Hidden Lannister
Hidden Lannister

House Tyrell
Hidden Tyrell
Hidden Tyrell
Hidden Tyrell
Hidden Tyrell

House Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen
Hidden Targaryen

House Stark
Hidden Stark
Hidden Stark
Hidden Stark
Hidden Stark

House Baratheon
Hidden Baratheon
Hidden Baratheon
Hidden Baratheon
Hidden Baratheon



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Signups:
Mikecall
Numbertwo
RLVG
Sign 1
Shifty
Orpz
Firebringer
Sign 2
Banshis
Toadette
Damus_Graves
Voss
Sign 3
TheDarkestLight
Stealthbomber16
Helios
Klingoncelt
Gerik
Citrus
Sign 4
Fragos
Lysergic
Titus
Bunny
Sign 5
Darkfire
AppleyNO
slendermenz
Slaol
Sign 6
yzb25
Bigby
Iced_Monopoly
Vedith






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House Martell
Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken.
One random member of House Martell will be immune to attacks.
One random member of House Martell will be immune to roleblock either on even nights, or odd nights.
Members of House Martell know each other's identities and roles.
Win condition: Eliminate House Tyrell, House Targaryen, and House Stark and have at least one House member alive at the end.

Possible Martell roles: Alchemist, Architect, Arms Dealer, Arsonist, Disguiser, Herald, Locksmith, Maester, Mass Murderer, Necromancer, Serial Killer, Strategist, Survivor, Warg, Wagon Driver, Whore, Witch.
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House Lannister
Hear Me Roar!
One random member of House Lannister will be immune to detection and attacks.
House Lannister shares a night chat.
House Lannister has a factional night kill.
Win condition: Eliminate House Targaryen, House Stark, and House Baratheon and have at least one House member alive at the end.

Possible Lannister roles: Agent, Analyst, Alchemist, Archivist, Assassin, Beguiler, Charlatan, Disguiser, Herald, Informant, Janitor, Jailer, Maester, Mortician, Spy, Strategist, Tailor, Warg, Lawyer, Wagon Driver, Whore.
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House Tyrell
Growing Strong.
Members of House Tyrell may write a message that gets sent to other House members upon their death.
Win condition: Eliminate House Martell, House Stark, and House Baratheon and have at least one House member alive at the end.

Possible Tyrell roles: Analyst, Archer, Archivist, Doctor, Fencer, Herald, Hunter, Jailer, Maester, Sheriff, Spy, Strategist, Wagon Driver, Watchman.
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House Targaryen
Fire and Blood.
No special abilities.
Win condition: Eliminate House Martell, House Lannister, and House Baratheon and have at least one House member alive at the end.

Possible Targaryen roles: Amnesiac, Archer, Architect, Baker, Blacksmith, Citizen, Coroner, Doctor, Herald, Knight, Locksmith, Maester, Mason, Mayor, Nurse, Sheriff, Sleepwalker, Snitch, Survivor, Vagrant, Whore.
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House Stark
Winter is Coming.
Members of House Stark may write a message that gets sent to other House members upon their death.
Win condition: Eliminate House Martell, House Lannister, and House Tyrell and have at least one House member alive at the end.

Possible Stark roles: Analyst, Archer, Archivist, Doctor, Fencer, Herald, Hunter, Jailer, Maester, Sheriff, Spy, Strategist, Wagon Driver, Watchman.
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House Baratheon
Ours is the Fury
One random member of House Baratheon will be immune to detection and attacks.
House Baratheon shares a night chat.
House Baratheon has a factional night kill.
Win condition: Eliminate House Lannister, House Targaryen, and House Tyrell and have at least one House member alive at the end.

Possible Baratheon roles: Agent, Analyst, Alchemist, Archivist, Assassin, Beguiler, Charlatan, Disguiser, Herald, Informant, Janitor, Jailer, Lawyer, Maester, Mortician, Spy, Strategist, Tailor, Warg, Wagon Driver, Whore.
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Signups will be accepted in this thread and via PM. You can sign publically here and then unsign secretly. idc.
If I get 45+ signs, I will instead host a 40-player version of this game.

If you signed in the previous thread, please resign here or via PM.

Game will not be starting for a while, so sign only when you are sure you'll be able to participate. An exact date will provided later.
Signups are not first come, first serve.

[SuperJack]

/sign


I twas first.

[Mikecall]

/sign

The Second Fortells Everything.

[Numbertwo]

/sign

[RLVG]

I read House Martell as House Marshall and was like "Marshalls, Marshalls everywhere!"

/sign

[Shifty]

/sign

[Orpz]

/sign

[Firebringer]

/signed by the mysterious stranger

[DarknessB]

/signed by the mysterious stranger

Redundant -- SuperJack already signed above.

[Banshis]

/sign

[Toadette]

/in

[Damus_Graves]

/ithinkihavetimeforthis

[Voss]

/sign

[TheDarkestLight]

/sign

[Firebringer]

Redundant -- SuperJack already signed above.

I am more mysterious than him.

[SuperJack]

I am more mysterious than him.

no

[Stealthbomber16]

/what

[Banshis]

is something wrong with house baratheon? looks a lot like a lannister specific card.

[Cryptonic]

is something wrong with house baratheon? looks a lot like a lannister specific card.

Yes it's typed wrong lol
Thx for pointing that out

[Stealthbomber16]

House bannister bonuses say Lannister

[Cryptonic]

House bannister bonuses say Lannister

Yuh Banshis pointed it out too lol Thx tho mang

[Helios]

/sign

[Klingoncelt]

/sign

[Frog]

/observe

[deathworlds]

think ill just reserve


/reserve

[Gerik]

/sign

[Citrus]

/sign

[Fragos]

Not a bad way to use a Game of Thrones background )

/sign

[Lysergic]

/sign

[Enigmatic Alpha]

adfadfbabab

[Titus]

/john hancock

subject to IRL

[Slaol]

/john hancock

subject to IRL

Titus

[ika]

can we see all the rolecards?

[Forum Mafia GM]

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[Forum Mafia GM]

Just realized I accidentally made rolecards for Targaryen Hunter & Watchman. Disregard those ones

[Banshis]

Is Arya immune to Oberyn? Since they don't kill little girls in dorne :P

Anyways I like the time put into the rolecards.

[ika]

can you make a text format of the rolecards. its hard for me to figure all of them for questions and takes a while for them to render each time

[MattZed]

I would also like text-version since cards don't render at HiDPI.

[Cryptonic]

OK I'll get around to posting it

[MattZed]

Charlatans, from either purple or orange, frame their target as enacting the orange night kill. Is this intended?

So, Red team, who has three members and no night chat, can get an architect who gives the other two a night chat that the architect can read?

Purple/Orange Jailers are 1-execute, but Blue/Yellow are X-shot. Is this intended?

It says mayor cannot be possessed; does this include being disguised?

Coroner and Mortician appear to be the exact same role, only difference being role-checkers can know Morticians are scum. Intended?

For spy targeting, does the "opposing" faction they target have to be one they can't win with?

What does a spy look like to visit-checkers?

[Stealthbomber16]

Charlatans, from either purple or orange, frame their target as enacting the orange night kill. Is this intended?

So, Red team, who has three members and no night chat, can get an architect who gives the other two a night chat that the architect can read?

Purple/Orange Jailers are 1-execute, but Blue/Yellow are X-shot. Is this intended?

It says mayor cannot be possessed; does this include being disguised?

Coroner and Mortician appear to be the exact same role, only difference being role-checkers can know Morticians are scum. Intended?

For spy targeting, does the "opposing" faction they target have to be one they can't win with?

What does a spy look like to visit-checkers?

If only I could get this man to review some of my own setups.

[Fragos]

Can everyone really remember that many rolecards? This is definitely intresting, but I hope it won't be too complicated.

How you are going to handle replacements? Though I assume that everyone WILL play this game.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Charlatans, from either purple or orange, frame their target as enacting the orange night kill. Is this intended?

Nope will fix! Thx!

So, Red team, who has three members and no night chat, can get an architect who gives the other two a night chat that the architect can read?

Yes.

Purple/Orange Jailers are 1-execute, but Blue/Yellow are X-shot. Is this intended?

Yes, it's intended.

It says mayor cannot be possessed; does this include being disguised?

Nope. A disguiser maintains their ability, so it wouldn't have mayor vote power.

Coroner and Mortician appear to be the exact same role, only difference being role-checkers can know Morticians are scum. Intended?

Yes, they are the same role lol just different alignment

For spy targeting, does the "opposing" faction they target have to be one they can't win with?

Yes has to be a faction they can't win with.

What does a spy look like to visit-checkers?

Stationary

Good questions, thanks for asking! I'll clarify every thing when I get some time. Answers in the quote

[Bunny]

/sign

never seen any of this before!

[Apocist]

Would need to know a possible date range before Apo could sign

[Forum Mafia GM]

Here is an outdated text version.
Some roles may appear here that aren't actually in the game.
Questions are welcome.

I also have 27 signs, currently.





Possible Martell roles: Alchemist, Architect, Arms Dealer, Arsonist, Disguiser, Herald, Locksmith, Maester, Mass Murderer, Necromancer, Serial Killer, Strategist, Survivor, Warg, Wagon Driver, Whore, Witch.

Possible Lannister roles: Agent, Analyst, Alchemist, Archivist, Assassin, Beguiler, Charlatan, Disguiser, Herald, Informant, Janitor, Jailer, Maester, Mortician, Spy, Strategist, Tailor, Warg, Lawyer, Wagon Driver, Whore.

Possible Tyrell roles: Analyst, Archer, Archivist, Doctor, Fencer, Herald, Hunter, Jailer, Maester, Sheriff, Spy, Strategist, Wagon Driver, Watchman.

Possible Targaryen roles: Amnesiac, Archer, Architect, Baker, Blacksmith, Citizen, Coroner, Doctor, Herald, Knight, Locksmith, Maester, Mason, Mayor, Nurse, Sheriff, Sleepwalker, Snitch, Survivor, Vagrant, Whore.

Possible Stark roles: Analyst, Archer, Archivist, Doctor, Fencer, Herald, Hunter, Jailer, Maester, Sheriff, Spy, Strategist, Wagon Driver, Watchman.

Possible Baratheon roles: Agent, Analyst, Alchemist, Archivist, Assassin, Beguiler, Charlatan, Disguiser, Herald, Informant, Janitor, Jailer, Lawyer, Maester, Mortician, Spy, Strategist, Tailor, Warg, Wagon Driver, Whore.



Role Cards:


House Martell:


Alchemist
Target one player at night, giving them fake feedback.
Target does not receive original feedback.
Alchemist can provide as much feedback as they want.
Alchemist can decide to give no feedback.

Architect
Target two players during the day. They will share an anonymous chat with each other the following night.
Can read chat.
Can target self.

Arms Dealer
Target two players at night, giving one a Sword and the other a suit of Armor.
You can choose to only give one.
You may give fake items.
Swords give no feedback.
You can choose to have fake Armor give no feedback, or attacked feedback.
You cannot give both Sword and Armor to the same person intentionally.
You cannot directly target other members of House Martell or yourself.
Using Sword and Armor replace night actions.
Agents and Hunters only see first target.
Witch only forces swords.

Arsonist
Target one player at night, dousing them in gasoline; OR
Burn all players previously doused.
Burning does not count as a self target.
Does not pierce healing nor immunity.
Arsonist can choose to burn during the day, resulting in themselves being revealed as Arsonist.
Arsonist day burns by typing -Burn during day chat, and then PM host to confirm.
All votes by doused players will not be counted the day of the burn, and those players will die at the host's earliest convenience.
Doused players' roles will be instantly revealed.
Players are informed of dousing.

Whore
Target one player at night, roleblocking them.
Not immune to roleblock.
Not informed of roleblock immunity.

Herald
Target one player during the day, requesting an interview at the start of the following night.
Can type own article to replace target's interview.
Receives copy of target's interview if interview is replaced.
Article is not published if Herald is roleblocked.

Disguiser
Target one player at night, attacking them. If kill is successful, you will take over their account.
X Uses.
Does not pierce healing nor immunity.

Locksmith
Target one player during the day, locking them in their house the following night.
Players locked in their house cannot use their night action, attend night chats, nor be targeted.
Target still susceptible to Arsonist burn.
X Uses.

Maester
Target one player at night, sending them a Raven with a message.
Message is anonymous.
Appears not to visit to investigative roles.

Mass Murderer
Target one player at night, attacking anyone who visits them.
Taking no action does not count as self visit.
Does not pierce healing nor immunity.

Necromancer
Target one dead player at night, forcing them to visit another target of your choice.
Targets number of charges still count.
Does not receive feedback from action.

Serial Killer
Target one player at night, attacking them.
Does not pierce healing nor immunity.

Strategist
Target two players at night, causing them to visit each other's target instead.
Players are notified when targeted by a Strategist.
If a player targets no one, it counts as a self-visit.
Does not affect Jailer/Jailer executions.

Survivor
No action.
You are immune to attacks.

Warg
Target one player at night, taking over their account the following day.
Cannot target the same player two nights in a row.

Witch
Target one player at night, forcing them to visit another target of your choice.
Targets are informed of Witching.
Cannot force self-visits.

Wagon Driver
Target two players at night, swapping their locations.
Players are notified when targeted by a Wagon Driver.
Swap will fail if one player or both targets are jailed. No one is informed of this.


House Lannister:


Agent
Target one player at night, learning who they visited and who visited them.
Cannot target self.
Does not pierce detection immunity.

Analyst
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their feedback.
Does not pierce drugged feedback.

Alchemist
Target one player at night, giving them fake feedback.
Target does not receive original feedback.
Alchemist can provide as much feedback as they want.
Alchemist can decide to give no feedback.

Archivist
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their current last will.
No attributes.

Assassin
Target one player during the day, revealing yourself to kill them.
Type -Assassinate NAME in day chat to activate power, and then PM host to confirm.
Target will die at hosts earliest convenience.
Target's vote will be removed from the day, and vote count adjusted.
Target's role will be instantly revealed.
Pierces immunity.
Limited to one use.

Beguiler
Target one person at night, causing all night actions directed towards you to instead be directed towards your target.
X Uses.
Target is not notified.

Charlatan
Target one player at night, framing them.
Target appears as Foe to Sheriff.
Target appears to have visited the Lannister 's night kill target to Hunters and Watchmans.
Makes target appear as a random Martell to Informants.

Herald
Target one player during the day, requesting an interview at the start of the following night.
Can type own article to replace target's interview.
Receives copy of target's interview if interview is replaced.
Article is not published if Herald is roleblocked.

Disguiser
Target one player at night, attacking them. If kill is successful, you will take over their account.
1 Use.
Does not pierce healing nor immunity.

Informant
Target one player at night, learning their role and alignment.
Does not pierce detection immunity.

Janitor
Target one player at night, cleaning their last will and role if they die within 24 hours.
Target's last will/role will be cleaned if lynched the following day.
X Uses.
Charges only spent when a role is cleaned.
Does not receive copy of target's last will/role.

Jailer
Target one player during the day, jailing them the following night.
Shares anonymous night chat with target.
Target is roleblocked and immune to attacks.
May execute on days following a no-lynch.
1 execution.

Lawyer
Target one player at night, changing their last will to anything of your choise.
Lasts one full cycle (Night applied, following Day, wear off at END of following Night).

Maester
Target one player at night, sending them a Raven with a message.
Message is anonymous.
Appears not to visit to investigative roles.

Mortician
Target one dead player at night, learning their true identity.
Learns target's role.
Learns target's alignment.
Learns who target visited each night.

Spy
Target one opposing faction at night, learning who was visited by all members.
X Uses.

Strategist
Target two players at night, causing them to visit each other's target instead.
Players are notified when targeted by a Strategist.
If a player targets no one, it counts as a self-visit.
Does not affect Jailer/Jailer executions.

Tailor
Target one player at night, choosing a role and alignment they will appear as when they die.
Role and Alignment selected must be selected from possible roles.
X Uses.
Players are informed that they received a suit.
Tailor lasts until death of Target or Tailor.
Already dead players will not be revealed once Tailor dies.

Warg
Target one player at night, taking over their account the following day.
Cannot target the same player two nights in a row.

Wagon Driver
Target two players at night, swapping their locations.
Players are notified when targeted by a Wagon Driver.
Swap will fail if one player or both targets are jailed. No one is informed of this.
Cannot intentionally target members of House Lannister.

Whore
Target one player at night, roleblocking them.
Immune to roleblock.
Not informed if target is immune to roleblock.


Tyrell:


Analyst
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their feedback.
Does not pierce drugged feedback.

Archer
Target one player at night, attacking them.
Does not pierce immunity.
X Uses.

Archivist
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their current last will.
No attributes.

Doctor
Target one player at night, protecting them from attacks.
Both Doctor and Target are informed of successful healing.

Fencer
Target one player at night, attacking their attacker and dying in place of your target.
Does not pierce immunity.
Cannot be healed while successfully defending.
Target is informed they were protected.

Herald
Target one player during the day, requesting an interview at the start of the following night.
Article is not published if Herald is roleblocked.

Hunter
Target one player at night, learning who they visited.
Does not pierce detection immunity.

Jailer
Target one player during the day, jailing them the following night.
Shares anonymous night chat with target.
Target is roleblocked and immune to attacks.
May execute on days following a no-lynch.
X executions.

Maester
Target one player at night, sending them a Raven with a message.
Message is anonymous.
Appears not to visit to investigative roles.

Sheriff
Target one player at night, learning if they are Friend or Foe.
Detects House Baratheon and House Targaryen as Friend.
Detects House Martell, House Lannister, and Tyrell as Foe.

Spy
Target one opposing faction at night, learning who was visited by all members.
X Uses.

Strategist
Target two players at night, causing them to visit each other's target instead.
Players are notified when targeted by a Strategist.
If a player targets no one, it counts as a self-visit.
Does not affect Jailer/Jailer executions.

Wagon Driver
Target two players at night, swapping their locations.
Players are notified when targeted by a Wagon Driver.
Swap will fail if one player or both targets are jailed. No one is informed of this.

Watchman
Target one player at night, learning who visited them.
Cannot target self.
Does not pierce detection immunity.


House Targaryen:


Amnesiac
Target one dead player at night, becoming their role.
Alignment does not change.
Can only target Tyrell, Targaryen, and Stark players.
Only obtains one charge if target's role has charges.
Role not revealed to the town.

Archer
Target one player at night, attacking them.
Does not pierce immunity.
X Uses.

Architect
Target two players during the day. They will share an anonymous chat with each other the following night.
Cannot read chat.
Does not participate in chat.

Baker
Target one player at night, giving them food which allows them to use two night actions the next night.
Cannot target self.
Roles with charges can instead decide to use 1 action without using a charge at night.
Does not affect day actions.

Blacksmith
Target two players at night, giving one a Sword and the other a suit of Armor.
You can choose to only give one.
You cannot give both Sword and Armor to the same person intentionally.
You cannot target yourself intentionally.
Using Sword and Armor replace night actions.
Agents and Hunters only see first target.
Witches only control first target; if Blacksmith takes no action, the Witch will cause the Blacksmith to give a Sword.

Coroner
Target one dead player at night, learning their true identity.
Learns target's role.
Learns target's alignment.
Learns who target visited each night.

Citizen
No action.
No attributes.

Crier
Type a message at night that will be revealed anonymously at the start of the following day.
Message will not send if roleblocked.

Doctor
Target one player at night, protecting them from attacks.
Both Doctor and Target are informed of successful healing.

Herald
Target one player during the day, requesting an interview at the start of the following night.
Article is not published if Herald is roleblocked.

Jailer
Target one player at night, roleblocking and healing them.
Not immune to roleblock.
Not informed of roleblock immunity.
Both Jailer and Target are informed of successful healing.

Knight
Go on alert at night, attacking anyone who visits you.
X Uses.

Locksmith
Target one player during the day, locking them in their house the following night.
Players locked in their house cannot use their night action, attend night chats, nor be targeted.
Target still susceptible to Arsonist burn.
X Uses.

Maester
Target one player at night, sending them a Raven with a message.
Message is anonymous.
Appears not to visit to investigative roles.

Mason
No action.
Can talk to other Mason's at night.

Mayor
During the day, reveal yourself by PMing the Host to reveal yourself as Mayor.
Immune to lynch the day you reveal.
Vote counts for 4 when revealed.
Can be healed.
Cannot be possessed if revealed.

Nurse
Target one player at night, healing or roleblocking them.
You cannot use the same action (roleblock/heal) two nights in a row.
Not immune to roleblock.
Not informed of roleblock immunity.
Both Nurse and Target are informed of successful healing.

Sheriff
Target one player at night, learning if they are Friend or Foe.
Detects Tyrell and House Stark as Friend.
Detects House Martell, House Lannister and House Baratheon as Foe.

Sleepwalker
No action.
Receives Citizen rolecard.
Visits one random player each night.

Snitch
Target one person at night, revealing their role to the entire game if you die that night or the following day.
Upon Snitch's death, target's name, role, and alignment are shown.

Survivor
Put on a suit of armor at night, becoming immune to attacks.
X Uses.

Vagrant
Target one player at night, redirecting all actions towards them and feedback to yourself.
Will not become immune if target is using a Vest.
Immune to roleblock unless roleblocked directly.
Cannot be healed.

Whore
Target one player at night, roleblocking them.
Not immune to roleblock.
Not informed of roleblock immunity.


House Stark:


Analyst
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their feedback.
Does not pierce drugged feedback.

Archer
Target one player at night, attacking them.
Does not pierce immunity.
X Uses.

Archivist
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their current last will.
No attributes.

Doctor
Target one player at night, protecting them from attacks.
Both Doctor and Target are informed of successful healing.

Fencer
Target one player at night, attacking their attacker and dying in place of your target.
Does not pierce immunity.
Cannot be healed while successfully defending.
Target is informed they were protected.

Herald
Target one player during the day, requesting an interview at the start of the following night.
Article is not published if Herald is roleblocked.

Hunter
Target one player at night, learning who they visited.
Does not pierce detection immunity.

Jailer
Target one player during the day, jailing them the following night.
Shares anonymous night chat with target.
Target is roleblocked and immune to attacks.
May execute on days following a no-lynch.
X executions.

Maester
Target one player at night, sending them a Raven with a message.
Message is anonymous.
Appears not to visit to investigative roles.

Sheriff
Target one player at night, learning if they are Friend or Foe.
Detects House Baratheon and House Targaryen as Friend.
Detects House Martell, House Lannister, and Tyrell as Foe.

Spy
Target one opposing faction at night, learning who was visited by all members.
X Uses.

Strategist
Target two players at night, causing them to visit each other's target instead.
Players are notified when targeted by a Strategist.
If a player targets no one, it counts as a self-visit.
Does not affect Jailer/Jailer executions.

Wagon Driver
Target two players at night, swapping their locations.
Players are notified when targeted by a Wagon Driver.
Swap will fail if one player or both targets are jailed. No one is informed of this.

Watchman
Target one player at night, learning who visited them.
Cannot target self.
Does not pierce detection immunity.


House Baratheon:


Agent
Target one player at night, learning who they visited and who visited them.
Cannot target self.
Does not pierce detection immunity.

Analyst
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their feedback.
Does not pierce drugged feedback.

Alchemist
Target one player at night, giving them fake feedback.
Target does not receive original feedback.
Alchemist can provide as much feedback as they want.
Alchemist can decide to give no feedback.

Archivist
Target one player at night, receiving a copy of their current last will.
No attributes.

Assassin
Target one player during the day, revealing yourself to kill them.
Type -Assassinate NAME in day chat to activate power, and then PM host to confirm.
Target will die at hosts earliest convenience.
Target's vote will be removed from the day, and vote count adjusted.
Target's role will be instantly revealed.
Pierces immunity.
Limited to one use.

Beguiler
Target one person at night, causing all night actions directed towards you to instead be directed towards your target.
X Uses.
Target is not notified.

Charlatan
Target one player at night, framing them.
Target appears as Foe to Sheriff.
Target appears to have visited the Baratheon 's night kill target to Hunters and Watchmans.
Makes target appear as a random Martell to Informants.

Herald
Target one player during the day, requesting an interview at the start of the following night.
Can type own article to replace target's interview.
Receives copy of target's interview if interview is replaced.
Article is not published if Herald is roleblocked.

Disguiser
Target one player at night, attacking them. If kill is successful, you will take over their account.
1 Use.
Does not pierce healing nor immunity.

Informant
Target one player at night, learning their role and alignment.
Does not pierce detection immunity.

Janitor
Target one player at night, cleaning their last will and role if they die within 24 hours.
Target's last will/role will be cleaned if lynched the following day.
X Uses.
Charges only spent when a role is cleaned.
Does not receive copy of target's last will/role.

Jailer
Target one player during the day, jailing them the following night.
Shares anonymous night chat with target.
Target is roleblocked and immune to attacks.
May execute on days following a no-lynch.
1 execution.

Lawyer
Target one player at night, changing their last will to anything of your choise.
Lasts one full cycle (Night applied, following Day, wear off at END of following Night).

Maester
Target one player at night, sending them a Raven with a message.
Message is anonymous.
Appears not to visit to investigative roles.

Mortician
Target one dead player at night, learning their true identity.
Learns target's role.
Learns target's alignment.
Learns who target visited each night.

Spy
Target one opposing faction at night, learning who was visited by all members.
X Uses.

Strategist
Target two players at night, causing them to visit each other's target instead.
Players are notified when targeted by a Strategist.
If a player targets no one, it counts as a self-visit.
Does not affect Jailer/Jailer executions.

Tailor
Target one player at night, choosing a role and alignment they will appear as when they die.
Role and Alignment selected must be selected from possible roles.
X Uses.
Players are informed that they received a suit.
Tailor lasts until death of Target or Tailor.
Already dead players will not be revealed once Tailor dies.

Warg
Target one player at night, taking over their account the following day.
Cannot target the same player two nights in a row.

Wagon Driver
Target two players at night, swapping their locations.
Players are notified when targeted by a Wagon Driver.
Swap will fail if one player or both targets are jailed. No one is informed of this.
Cannot intentionally target members of House Baratheon

Whore
Target one player at night, roleblocking them.
Immune to roleblock.
Not informed if target is immune to roleblock.

[MattZed]

Questions, going pretty much in order of role listings:
RED TEAM:
Does Alchemist giving no feedback mean blocking target's feedback?

Do Disguisers gain access to the night chats of any of their targets?

If Red has a Disguiser, are the other members informed of who that person disguises as?

Does the Disguiser's original account die?

If so, what does their corpse flip as?

Further, what would it look like if a Mortician/Coroner checked their corpse?

Are players informed of being locked by a locksmith?

Can Mass Murderer self-target?

Is it possible for the Survivor to be the "randomly immune to night attacks" member of Red?

Can a (Red) Witch force a (Red) Arms Dealer to give a sword to team Red?

ORANGE TEAM/PURPLE TEAM:
I am still uncertain about Framer: do they frame visiting their own team's kill or performing the other scum team's kill?

Having Charlatan making a target appear as team Red to enemy informants seems weird, because it would make the other scum team think they found an ally.

If an Orange/Purple Disguiser is witched onto someone, is their team informed?

What do detection-immune roles look like to informants?

Janitor clean works on night kills that happen the same night, correct?

Concern: I think Spy might be OP because of the information it can out. IE: noticing a previously-dead person was visited, or if Red only performs one visit and Red is known to have a Disguiser. It may have a MUCH higher chance of outing scum than, say, a sheriff, because you can target an alignment instead of players.

What happens if a Strategist visits someone who targets 2+ people in a night?

Can Tailor give someone a suit on the same night that person dies?

Why is the Red Wagon Driver allowed to target allies, but Orange and Purple can't? Just seems a little odd.

YELLOW TEAM/BLUE TEAM:
Is the Yellow/Blue "your house member has died" message feedback that an Analyst can intercept?

A Jailer execution can be healed, correct?

If it is healed, does the Jailer lose a charge?

Does a Jailer execution count as a visit?

Does being night immune at at interact with a watchman seeing that you were visited? (as opposed to being the one visiting someone)

GREEN TEAM:
So Amnesiac can become a Blue or Yellow role (but not alignment) because these are "allies?"

Do Watchmen see people receiving armor?

Can players tell the difference between a Crier's message and one from a Herald's interview?

How, if at all, are players informed of their trying to target a Locksmith's target failing?

Sleepwalker seemed kinda cool. Is it cut?

Does a Snitch's reveal still happen if they were hit by a Tailor or Janitor?

As with the Analyst, can a Vagrant steal the Yellow/Blue death message?

Who, exactly, does not become immune by the Vagrant's "Will not become immune if target is using a Vest"?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Questions, going pretty much in order of role listings:
RED TEAM:
Does Alchemist giving no feedback mean blocking target's feedback?

Yes, prevents all feedback that night.

Do Disguisers gain access to the night chats of any of their targets?

No, they do not gain access to night chats.

If Red has a Disguiser, are the other members informed of who that person disguises as?

Yes, teammates are informed.

Does the Disguiser's original account die?

Yes.

If so, what does their corpse flip as?

Disguiser flips as target's role.

Further, what would it look like if a Mortician/Coroner checked their corpse?

They would see the Disguiser's target's role/alignment/ect.

Are players informed of being locked by a locksmith?

Yes they are informed, otherwise players with nightchats would have an advantage.

Can Mass Murderer self-target?

Nope, no role can self target unless otherwise stated.

Is it possible for the Survivor to be the "randomly immune to night attacks" member of Red?

It is completely random, so yes. They could even be immune to roleblock, unfortunately lol.

Can a (Red) Witch force a (Red) Arms Dealer to give a sword to team Red?

Yes, it's possible. Sword can still be fake, if that's what Arms Dealer is choosing to give.

ORANGE TEAM/PURPLE TEAM:
I am still uncertain about Framer: do they frame visiting their own team's kill or performing the other scum team's kill?

Framer will frame the target as if they visited their own faction's night kill.

Having Charlatan making a target appear as team Red to enemy informants seems weird, because it would make the other scum team think they found an ally.

Noted, but I feel that having a fake ally is just as detrimental. I could consider framing as enemy Stark/Tyrell, though.

If an Orange/Purple Disguiser is witched onto someone, is their team informed?

Yes, they will be informed of who their ally now is.

What do detection-immune roles look like to informants?

Detection immune roles appear as stationary Citizens.

Janitor clean works on night kills that happen the same night, correct?

Yes, or the lynch on the following day.

Concern: I think Spy might be OP because of the information it can out. IE: noticing a previously-dead person was visited, or if Red only performs one visit and Red is known to have a Disguiser. It may have a MUCH higher chance of outing scum than, say, a sheriff, because you can target an alignment instead of players.

I don't think it's OP. It can know a Necromancer is in the game, but still has 0 idea who the Necromancer is. So, that's not that powerful. If Red performs one visit, and someone is disguised (won't be confirmed that someone is disguised) there is still the chance that Baratheon or Lannister was the one that Disguised (making it a 1/11 chance you're right). Sure, the target might be the person pressured the following day, but would a Stark/Tyrell out themselves when they have 4 members just because there is a chance they found the Martell Disguiser? Seems pretty risky for them.

What happens if a Strategist visits someone who targets 2+ people in a night?

The Strategist will "witch" the target's first choice.

Can Tailor give someone a suit on the same night that person dies?

Yes, the Tailor can suit up a target the same night the target dies.

Why is the Red Wagon Driver allowed to target allies, but Orange and Purple can't? Just seems a little odd.

I made it that way because Lannister/Baratheon can plan night actions in night chat and are more highly organized. But bussing as Red is a lot more risky; ie, they bus someone that is attacked by Martell Serial Killer. Martel members dies from their own team. Plus, it gives them an additional way of staying alive at the end of the game, as they don't have a factional night kill; I thought they needed the edge.

YELLOW TEAM/BLUE TEAM:
Is the Yellow/Blue "your house member has died" message feedback that an Analyst can intercept?

Nope, the secret message sent to house members cannot be stopped by any role.

A Jailer execution can be healed, correct?

Correct.

If it is healed, does the Jailer lose a charge?

Yes.

Does a Jailer execution count as a visit?

Yes, Jailing also counts as a visit.

Does being night immune at at interact with a watchman seeing that you were visited? (as opposed to being the one visiting someone)

Nope, it still shows who visited the detection immune person.

GREEN TEAM:
So Amnesiac can become a Blue or Yellow role (but not alignment) because these are "allies?"

Correct, Amnesiac can become Stark/Tyrell/Targaryen.

Do Watchmen see people receiving armor?

Yes.

Can players tell the difference between a Crier's message and one from a Herald's interview?

Yes, it will be stated what message is from each role. BUT, Crier was removed from the game, as I wanted to limit 100% confirmable Targaryen roles. It only appears in the outdated list, sorry about that.

How, if at all, are players informed of their trying to target a Locksmith's target failing?

Sleepwalker seemed kinda cool. Is it cut?

Cut?
If you mean Cit, yes it's a Citizen that visits (but does not know it's visiting). If I assumed wrong what you asked, please lemme know ^^;

Does a Snitch's reveal still happen if they were hit by a Tailor or Janitor?

Yes, it reveals they true role, bypassing any deception roles.

As with the Analyst, can a Vagrant steal the Yellow/Blue death message?

Nope, it's an untouchable message.

Who, exactly, does not become immune by the Vagrant's "Will not become immune if target is using a Vest"?

To clarify, it means that the Vagrant does not steal the vest. The person using the vest will still use their vest on themselves. Vagrant redirects all other night actions to himself.

[MattZed]

Ah, fast responses, ty!

My clarifications:
By "steal the Yellow/Blue death message," I meant also get a copy of it, but I think you've answered this

By sleepwalker being cut, I mean I didn't see a rolecard for them and was wondering if they were still a role in the game.

In regards to the Snitch, this means that all Janitor cleans and Tailor suitings don't work on the snitch, correct?

I think you missed my question:
How, if at all, are players informed of their trying to target a Locksmith's target failing?

And a new one:
Whose last wills, if any, are revealed when the Disguiser disguises?

[Forum Mafia GM]

My clarifications:
By "steal the Yellow/Blue death message," I meant also get a copy of it, but I think you've answered this

Correct, they cannot get a copy of this message.

By sleepwalker being cut, I mean I didn't see a rolecard for them and was wondering if they were still a role in the game.

Ohh no, I guess I need a text copy for that role.. lmao. Sleepwalker receives Citizen rolecard, so I didn't make one >< lmao guess I gotta

In regards to the Snitch, this means that all Janitor cleans and Tailor suitings don't work on the snitch, correct?

Oh, you meant the snitch. Yes, it still works on the Snitch, but the ability will still activate regardless.

I think you missed my question:
How, if at all, are players informed of their trying to target a Locksmith's target failing?

I did miss it.
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Attacked and Immune
Given: None.
Received: Your were attacked last night.

Agent
Given: None.
Received: Your target visited X, and was visited by X, Y and Z.

Agent
Given: None.
Received: Your target visited X, and was visited by X, Y and Z.

Alchemist
Given: ALL FEEDBACK LISTED
Received: None.

Alchemist
Given: ALL FEEDBACK LISTED
Received: None.

Alchemist
Given: ALL FEEDBACK LISTED
Received: None.

Amnesiac
Given: None.
Received: You remembered you were like your target! NEW ROLECARD

Analyst
Given: None.
Received: Your target had the following feedback:

Analyst
Given: None.
Received: Your target had the following feedback:

Analyst
Given: None.
Received: Your target had the following feedback:

Analyst
Given: None.
Received: Your target had the following feedback:

Archer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Archer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Archer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Architect
Given: DAY: You were invited to meet an anonymous stranger at secret location. View an Architect subforum to talk.
Received: None.

Architect
Given: DAY: You were invited to meet an anonymous stranger at secret location. View an Architect subforum to talk.
Received: None.

Archivist
Given: None.
Received: You discovered your target's last will in the archives:

Archivist
Given: None.
Received: You discovered your target's last will in the archives:

Archivist
Given: None.
Received: You discovered your target's last will in the archives:

Archivist
Given: None.
Received: You discovered your target's last will in the archives:

Arms Dealer
Given: You were given a sword last night.
Given: You were given a suit of armor last night.
Received: None.

Arsonist
Given: You were doused last night.
Received: None.

Assassin
Given: None.
Received: None.

Assassin
Given: None.
Received: None.

Baker
Given: Someone gave you bread last night. It gave you the energy to use two nights actions (or a charge-free night action) tonight.
Received: None.

Beguiler
Given: None.
Received: None.

Beguiler
Given: None.
Received: None.

Blacksmith
Given: You were given a sword last night.
Given: You were given a suit of armor last night.
Received: None.

Charlatan
Given: None.
Received: None.

Charlatan
Given: None.
Received: None.

Citizen
Given: None.
Received: None.

Coroner
Given: None.
Received: Your target was ROLE of HOUSE, and they visited X night/day #, Y night/day #, and Z night/day #.

Crier
Given: None.
Received: None.

Disguiser
Given: None.
Received: None.

Disguiser
Given: None.
Received: None.

Disguiser
Given: None.
Received: None.

Doctor
Given: IF ATTACKED: You were attacked last night, but someone saved you.
Received: IF ATTACKED: Your target was attacked last night.

Doctor
Given: IF ATTACKED: You were attacked last night, but someone saved you.
Received: IF ATTACKED: Your target was attacked last night.

Doctor
Given: IF ATTACKED: You were attacked last night, but someone saved you.
Received: IF ATTACKED: Your target was attacked last night.

Fencer
Given: IF ATTACKED: You were attacked last night, but someone saved you.
Received: IF ATTACKED: You died defending your target.

Fencer
Given: IF ATTACKED: You were attacked last night, but someone saved you.
Received: IF ATTACKED: You died defending your target.

Herald
Given: DAY: You were selected to write an interview that will be posted anonymously the following morning.
Received: You decided to replace PLAYER's article with your own. Copy of article written:

Herald
Given: DAY: You were selected to write an interview that will be posted anonymously the following morning.
Received: You decided to replace PLAYER's article with your own. Copy of article written:

Herald
Given: DAY: You were selected to write an interview that will be posted anonymously the following morning.
Received: None.

Herald
Given: DAY: You were selected to write an interview that will be posted anonymously the following morning.
Received: None.

Herald
Given: DAY: You were selected to write an interview that will be posted anonymously the following morning.
Received: None.

Herald
Given: DAY: You were selected to write an interview that will be posted anonymously the following morning.
Received: You decided to replace PLAYER's article with your own. Copy of article written:

Hunter
Given: None.
Received: Your target visited X.

Hunter
Given: None.
Received: Your target visited X.

Informant
Given: None.
Received: Your target's role is ROLE.

Informant
Given: None.
Received: Your target's role is ROLE.

Jailer
Given: DAY: You were kidnapped! Visit a Jailer subforum to talk.
Received: None.

Jailer
Given: DAY: You were kidnapped! Visit a Jailer subforum to talk.
Received: None.

Jailer
Given: DAY: You were kidnapped! Visit a Jailer subforum to talk.
Received: None.

Jailer
Given: DAY: You were kidnapped! Visit a Jailer subforum to talk.
Received: None.

Janitor
Given: None.
Received: None.

Janitor
Given: None.
Received: None.

Knight
Given: None.
Received: None.

Lawyer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Lawyer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Locksmith
Given: DAY: You find your door to be jammed shut. The Locksmith will be by in the morning to fix your door.
Received: None.

Locksmith
Given: DAY: You find your door to be jammed shut. The Locksmith will be by in the morning to fix your door.
Received: None.

Maester
Given: A raven delivered you a message from an unknown person: MESSAGE
Received: None.

Maester
Given: A raven delivered you a message from an unknown person: MESSAGE
Received: None.

Maester
Given: A raven delivered you a message from an unknown person: MESSAGE
Received: None.

Maester
Given: A raven delivered you a message from an unknown person: MESSAGE
Received: None.

Maester
Given: A raven delivered you a message from an unknown person: MESSAGE
Received: None.

Maester
Given: A raven delivered you a message from an unknown person: MESSAGE
Received: Your target was ROLE of HOUSE, and they visited X night/day #, Y night/day #, and Z night/day #.

Mason
Given: None.
Received: None.

Mass Murderer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Mayor
Given: None.
Received: None.

Mortician
Given: None.
Received: Your target was ROLE of HOUSE, and they visited X night/day #, Y night/day #, and Z night/day #.

Mortician
Given: None.
Received: You discovered the members of HOUSE visited X, Y and Z.

Necromancer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Nurse
Given: IF ATTACKED: You were attacked last night, but someone saved you.
Given: You were roleblocked.
Received: IF ATTACKED: Your target was attacked last night.

Serial Killer
Given: None.
Received: None.

Sheriff
Given: None.
Received: Your target appears to be Friend/Foe.

Sheriff
Given: None.
Received: Your target appears to be Friend/Foe.

Sheriff
Given: None.
Received: Your target appears to be Friend/Foe.

Sleepwalker
Given: None.
Received: None.

Snitch
Given: None.
Received: None.

Spy
Given: None.
Received: You discovered the members of HOUSE visited X, Y and Z.

Spy
Given: None.
Received: You discovered the members of HOUSE visited X, Y and Z.

Spy
Given: None.
Received: You discovered the members of HOUSE visited X, Y and Z.

Spy
Given: None.
Received: None.

Strategist
Given: Someone convinced you to target someone else.
Received: None.

Strategist
Given: Someone convinced you to target someone else.
Received: None.

Strategist
Given: Someone convinced you to target someone else.
Received: None.

Strategist
Given: Someone convinced you to target someone else.
Received: None.

Strategist
Given: Someone convinced you to target someone else.
Received: None.

Survivor
Given: None.
Received: None.

Survivor
Given: None.
Received: None.

Tailor
Given: You were given a suit last night.
Received: None.

Tailor
Given: You were given a suit last night
Received: You possessed PLAYER. Log in with your player password.

Vagrant
Given: None.
Received: None.

Wagon Driver
Given: Someone gave you a ride last night.
Received: None.

Wagon Driver
Given: Someone gave you a ride last night.
Received: None.

Wagon Driver
Given: Someone gave you a ride last night.
Received: None.

Wagon Driver
Given: Someone gave you a ride last night.
Received: None.

Wagon Driver
Given: Someone gave you a ride last night.
Received: None.

Warg
Given: ON MAIN: You were possessed last night. You do not have access to your body for the rest of the day.
Received: You possessed PLAYER. Log in with your player password.

Warg
Given: ON MAIN: You were possessed last night. You do not have access to your body for the rest of the day.
Received: You possessed PLAYER. Log in with your player password.

Warg
Given: ON MAIN: You were possessed last night. You do not have access to your body for the rest of the day.
Received: None.

Watchman
Given: None.
Received: Your target was visited by X, Y and Z.

Watchman
Given: None.
Received: Your target was visited by X, Y and Z.

Whore
Given: You were roleblocked.
Received: None.

Whore
Given: You were roleblocked.
Received: None.

Whore
Given: You were roleblocked.
Received: None.

Whore
Given: You were roleblocked.
Received: None.

Witch
Given: Someone convinced you to target someone else.
Received: None.

And a new one:
Whose last wills, if any, are revealed when the Disguiser disguises?

The Disguiser's last will gets posted.

[Brendan]

dont think i can play this 1 nevermind

[Darkfire]

/sign

Woot

[Klingoncelt]

So how many signups are there, and could you list them on Page 1?

[Cryptonic]

I can list the people who signed pubically.
I believe there is either 30 or 31 signs atm

[AppleyNO]

I assume (that means hope) that sign ups are still open

/sign

[Cryptonic]

Yop! Need a few more still 8)

[Klingoncelt]

...
I believe there is either 30 or 31 signs atm

That's what I was wondering.

[ArtfulDodger]

/sign

[Lysergic]

/sign

lol no

[ArtfulDodger]

Why not? :(

[Titus]

Do we have enough ins?

[Firebringer]

I am still signed as the mysterious stranger.

[Slaol]

I just realized I didn't sign. apexkek. I thought my playing was assumed

/sign

[Mathmatical]

/YOU ARE NOT PREPARED
also a /sign

[AppleyNO]

Hey I won't be here between Oct 28 - Nov 4 (i.e. I will have a very small time to play)

So since a date was not provided yet I hope this is okay.

[Cryptonic]

Hey I won't be here between Oct 28 - Nov 4 (i.e. I will have a very small time to play)

So since a date was not provided yet I hope this is okay.

That's likely fine, as I still need about 3 signs (not including replacements)

[Firebringer]

That's likely fine, as I still need about 3 signs (not including replacements)

I will go recruit some unsuspecting marks.

I meant PLAYERS....right.

[Lysergic]

How is this FM going to interact with Thanksgiving / Christmas out of curiosity?

[Cryptonic]

How is this FM going to interact with Thanksgiving / Christmas out of curiosity?

Depending when I get signs and am able to start, I will survey to find out what people would prefer. I'm likely available to host at those times, so it's really up to the majority of the players. If more then 25% of the players can't play on a day, I will delay it that day. Or something along those lines.

[MattZed]

Can I hydra with myself?

[Bunny]

How is this FM going to interact with Thanksgiving / Christmas out of curiosity?

lol he already had thanksgiving

[Titus]

Slaol you forgot to vote me. We know I am always scum in an FM. :)))

[Slaol]

Titus

i gotcha earlier boo

[Firebringer]

Slaol you forgot to vote me. We know I am always scum in an FM. :)))

If Slaol says it, it must be true.
Titus

[Forum Mafia GM]

Someone requested the OoO, so here it is:


Jailer / Jailer / Jailer / Jailer jails.
Architect / Architect sets up secret room.
Herald / Herald / Herald / Herald / Herald / Herald send out interview request.
Arms Dealer / Blacksmith / Survivor items used.
Strategist / Strategist / Strategist / Strategist / Strategist swaps (can be roleblocked unless swapping roleblocker).
Beguiler / Beguiler hide.
Whore / Whore roleblock.
Whore / Nurse / Whore roleblock.
Witch witches (can witch # 7 & 8 if not roleblocked).
Wagon Driver / Wagon Driver / Wagon Driver / Wagon Driver / Wagon Driver swaps.
Fencer / Fencer protects.
Doctor / Doctor / Warden / Nurse / Doctor protects.
Lawyer / Janitor / Tailor / Lawyer / Janitor / Tailor clean & disguise.
Arsonist / Mass Murderer / Serial Killer / Archer / Archer / Archer/Factional Night Kills take effect.
Disguiser / Disguiser / Disguiser disguise.
Alchemist / Alchemist / Charlatan / Alchemist / Charlatan act.
Arms Dealer / Baker / Blacksmith gives items.
Sleepwalker / Vagrant visits.
Amnesiac remembers.
Maester / Maester / Maester / Maester / Maester / Maester sends Raven.
Warg / Warg / Warg possess.
Agent / Analyst / Archivist / Informant / Mortician / Spy / Analyst / Archivist / Hunter / Watchman / Sheriff / Spy / Sheriff / Coroner / Hunter / Analyst / Archivist / Watchman / Sheriff / Spy / Agent / Analyst / Archivist / Informant / Mortician / Spy investigate.

[MattZed]

When do Jailers execute?

When does the Knight go on alert?

Healing/Immunity only prevents arsonist burning, not dousing, correct?

Balance Concern: Fencers only occur in the 4-person neut factions, which may give strong incentives for them to not act, as their faction needs to survive and they may end up dying and taking a friendly scum with them.

[Cryptonic]

When do Jailers execute?

Same as all kills, will add!

When does the Knight go on alert?

Should be #4, will add!

Healing/Immunity only prevents arsonist burning, not dousing, correct?

Correct, just burning.

Balance Concern: Fencers only occur in the 4-person neut factions, which may give strong incentives for them to not act, as their faction needs to survive and they may end up dying and taking a friendly scum with them.

True that Fencer is one of the weaker roles, but it still has it's niche. It can save outted teammates while killing an evil neutral/opposing Mafia. It's true that the Fencer wouldn't want to use it's night action randomly, as it might kill teammate/team mafia while saving an enemy.

[Slaol]

I volunteer to play multiple accounts. I suggest I singlehandedly operate a Mafia.

[yzb25]

/sign

(Willing to /reserve if you end up with too many /signs)

[Yayap]

I volunteer to play multiple accounts. I suggest I singlehandedly operate a Mafia.

GG your faction auto looses when you go afk again

[Slaol]

GG your faction auto looses when you go afk again

That would require that to be the going trend. I wouldnt expect you to know much of what actually happens here though Yayap, so i'll let you off.

[TheDarkestLight]

GG your faction auto looses when you go afk again

Why don't you sign up?

I don't know if there's some backstory about why you don't. O_o

[Numbertwo]

Why don't you sign up?

I don't know if there's some backstory about why you don't. O_o

Yayap is too good for us.

[yzb25]

The house politics look a little... sophisticated... when you put them in prose form only. So I made this diagram for clarity:(The lines represent which houses want to kill which)http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19048&stc=1

Basically, a triple alliance will always be extremely awkward, (even though each house has two people they could potentially ally themselves with) because there will always be a feud between at least two of the allies. For example, if Stark and Tyrell reveal themselves to Targaryen at the start to try and form a voting block, Tyrell and Stark will be trying to take eachother out in the long term, which will make the alliance very unstable.

Hopefully this post should reduce the number of people who go full-retard if/when this game is played xD. But there's even more logic behind this. If you reveal one house you don't need to kill to the wrong person, for example, they could potentially immediately figure out who you are.

[Mathmatical]

/signed by me

[Orpz]

bump

[Bigby]

/sign

[SuperJack]

bump

[Klingoncelt]

So... How many more signups are needed?

[Cryptonic]

So... How many more signups are needed?

1 to be full w/ few reserves

[Cryptonic]

OK, I have 34 people now. If anyone would like to join on as a reserve, it would be appreciated.

[RLVG]

OK, I have 34 people now. If anyone would like to join on as a reserve, it would be appreciated.

When do we expect a start?

[Firebringer]

Next year.

[Slaol]

OK, I have 34 people now. If anyone would like to join on as a reserve, it would be appreciated.

/sign as an entire Mafia faction

[Cryptonic]

I'll just doublecheck all permissions, ect. Probably next few weeks (1-2) we can start.

[Firebringer]

Cryptonic whats going to be the theme for FM account names?

I suggest Pokemon.

We must have the Squirtle and Charmander fights in the FM!

[Orpz]

We've done pokemon before

I suggest we use main account names as the anon names (FM Orpz)

[Cryptonic]

Accounts have already been made.
I'll post names in a sec

[Zekrom2802]

Cryptonic whats going to be the theme for FM account names?

I suggest Pokemon.

We must have the Squirtle and Charmander fights in the FM!

This.

[Orpz]

http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/

[Cryptonic]

We've done pokemon before

I suggest we use main account names as the anon names (FM Orpz)

FM Ambient
FM AppleyNO
FM Ash
FM Blazer
FM Borkbot
FM Brendan
FM Bruno
FM Bunny
FM Chane
FM CmG
FM creedkingsx
FM Cryptonic
FM Damus_Graves
FM Dust
FM Duzero
FM Gingerape
FM Elixir
FM Fatalis
FM Goremancer
FM Frostbyte
FM Kromos
FM Lazers
FM Glip
FM Luna
FM Lysergic
FM MintBerry Crunch
FM Mugy
FM Nick
FM NoctiZ
FM Orpz
FM Raptorblaze
FM RookRanger
FM Slaol
FM Ubernox

[Toadette]

Where's Toadette :(

[Firebringer]

All those are crap except FM NoctiZ

[Firebringer]

Also I swear to god, delete FM Bruno.

[RLVG]

FM Ambient
FM AppleyNO
FM Ash
FM Blazer
FM Borkbot
FM Brendan
FM Bruno
FM Bunny
FM Chane
FM CmG
FM creedkingsx
FM Cryptonic
FM Damus_Graves
FM Dust
FM Duzero
FM Gingerape
FM Elixir
FM Fatalis
FM Goremancer
FM Frostbyte
FM Kromos
FM Lazers
FM Glip
FM Luna
FM Lysergic
FM MintBerry Crunch
FM Mugy
FM Nick
FM NoctiZ
FM Orpz
FM Raptorblaze
FM RookRanger
FM Slaol
FM Ubernox

Where the fuck am I?

[Zekrom2802]

Where the fuck am I?

FM slendermenz

[Yukitaka Oni]

Where's Toadette :(
>)o.o)> :toad:

[Cryptonic]

Where the fuck am I?

You didn't post enough during the time frame i selected to make the cut.

[DarknessB]

You didn't post enough during the time frame i selected to make the cut.

LOL, most of these people aren't active now -- when was the time period?

[RLVG]

You didn't post enough during the time frame i selected to make the cut.

I post more than a majority of these combined! C'mon man!

[Cryptonic]

LOL, most of these people aren't active now -- when was the time period?

Back a few years

[SuperJack]

How boring. One of the last FM games where previous main accounts also.

I suggest people suggest name theme then a poll.

[SuperJack]

I want Women themed names!
Famous Women.

[SuperJack]

Famous Female Protagonists!

[Slaol]

I used a lot of these names a few games ago. Please edit my accounts in some way to separate them

[Firebringer]

Famous Female Protagonists!

I choose Katniss Everdeen, cause she was on fire yo.

[Toadette]

I want Women themed names!
Famous Women.

I like how you think Jack :)

[Slaol]

Also please use more fun names. Plz bb

[Toadette]

FM Susan B Anthony is my name

I won't settle for less.

[Citrus]

Zzz

Someone may need to ping me when this starts, because I check the site like once every 1-2 weeks now

[Citrus]

FM Ambient
FM AppleyNO
FM Ash
FM Blazer
FM Borkbot
FM Brendan
FM Bruno
FM Bunny
FM Chane
FM CmG
FM creedkingsx
FM Cryptonic
FM Damus_Graves
FM Dust
FM Duzero
FM Gingerape
FM Elixir
FM Fatalis
FM Goremancer
FM Frostbyte
FM Kromos
FM Lazers
FM Glip
FM Luna
FM Lysergic
FM MintBerry Crunch
FM Mugy
FM Nick
FM NoctiZ
FM Orpz
FM Raptorblaze
FM RookRanger
FM Slaol
FM Ubernox

Booo enjoy ctaching scurvy

[RLVG]

PETITION!!!


Make a parody of all the current FM names.

[SuperJack]

No.

Female Protagonists > Parodys

[Toadette]

No.

Female Protagonists > Parodys

Female historical figures > protagonists

Protagonists while many a time present strong female lead characters, fall into stereotypes that are annoying.

[RLVG]

No.

Female Protagonists > Parodys

Fem Shep, Lara, Peach, Generic MMO Character, Samus, uhhh....

You handle the 30ish names!



I think we can just be Civilization theme. #Gandhi

[Toadette]

Though I can settle on protagonists still!

[Firebringer]

Female historical figures > protagonists

Protagonists while many a time present strong female lead characters, fall into stereotypes that are annoying.

So do historical figures.
Stereotypes are unavoidable.

[Toadette]

Fem Shep, Lara, Peach, Generic MMO Character, Samus, uhhh....

You handle the 30ish names!



I think we can just be Civilization theme. #Gandhi

This post deserves negative rep.

[Firebringer]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Toadette again.

[Lysergic]

Wow, it's anarchy in here.

[RLVG]

This post deserves negative rep.

And I actually got negative rep. ;(

[Firebringer]

Wow, it's anarchy in here.

Start controlling your squirtles more!

[Cryptonic]

Fine fine i'll change up the names, it'll take me an extra week to get it all reorganized.

[Cryptonic]

I used a lot of these names a few games ago. Please edit my accounts in some way to separate them

Only name that was taken was FM Slaol.

[SuperJack]

Fine fine i'll change up the names, it'll take me an extra week to get it all reorganized.

<3

May we all each send a bunch of suggestions for our favourite women?

[Cryptonic]

Received an unsign, still room if anyone wants in.

[DarknessB]

Received an unsign, still room if anyone wants in.

Probably Firebringer -- everyone knows he hates women.

[Cryptonic]

Probably Firebringer -- everyone knows he hates women.

People hate what they can't understand

[RLVG]

People hate what they can't understand

Everyone hates magnets.

[Banshis]

Received an unsign, still room if anyone wants in.

Nooooooo it was so close to starting. RIP my hopes and dreams

[Mikecall]

Nooooooo it was so close to starting. RIP my hopes and dreams

I know how you feel :(.

[Frog]

I'm on the observe list, but it's bizarre how we're still missing a player considering our player base size.

I can pull someone off-site, but I think it's just a case of regulars not signing up.

[yzb25]

FM Susan B Anthony is my name

I won't settle for less.

Really off-topic, but holy shit - how does one find out about such a person? How does one acquire such education? I have literally never heard of her. Your knowledge of history seems to go beyond the classroom.

[Klingoncelt]

The nwames suck.

We should go with European Royals.

Or countries of the world.

Or types of insects.

Or food.

[DarknessB]

The nwames suck.

We should go with European Royals.

Or countries of the world.

Or types of insects.

Or food.

You could try to hit multiple buckets with the same name, like Turkey.
At the very least, how about members who have made very bad names to themselves? So, basically all of us. :wm:

[Fragos]

I have beeter idea. How about we base our FM names on previous MVPs, and not just ordinary players?

[Numbertwo]

I have beeter idea. How about we base our FM names on previous MVPs, and not just ordinary players?

Or how about all the legendary swedish people of this site?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Interesting... /sign

[Stealthbomber16]

Interesting... /sign

gg

[Stealthbomber16]

Everyone should just be a character from the last FM backwards.

retxeD MF
namtaB MF

[Cryptonic]

You could try to hit multiple buckets with the same name, like Turkey.
At the very least, how about members who have made very bad names to themselves? So, basically all of us. :wm:

So you're against the current names, but would be ok with a name change that includes current users lol

[SuperJack]

Women names! For the games!
Both modern and historically.
Both fictional and non-fictional.
<3

[Cryptonic]

Women names! For the games!
Both modern and historically.
Both fictional and non-fictional.
<3

There will be too many repeats and too many long names. Hosts who use extremely longs names w/ punctuation deserve to be killed.
I might just keep the names I have, they're just names lol. They're supposed to be easy to remember and different from one another lol.
Plus, I've already made accounts and subforums, it was a pain in the ass to do. Remembering now, I don't want to change them all again D:

[SuperJack]

There will be too many repeats and too many long names. Hosts who use extremely longs names w/ punctuation deserve to be killed.
I might just keep the names I have, they're just names lol. They're supposed to be easy to remember and different from one another lol.
Plus, I've already made accounts and subforums, it was a pain in the ass to do. Remembering now, I don't want to change them all again D:

Florence Nightingale
Buffy
Olivia Dunham
Agent Carter
Mary Shelly
Marie Curie
Margaret Thatcher/ The Iron Lady
The Queen
Beatrix Kiddo

et cetera et cetera et cetera

Non of these repeat, they are not too long.

Tip: Don't change the accounts, just the account names?

[DarknessB]

So you're against the current names, but would be ok with a name change that includes current users lol

LOL, only as a joke. Seriously though, probably better to have names sans any users in terms of confusion.

[DarknessB]

I have beeter idea. How about we base our FM names on previous MVPs, and not just ordinary players?

Checks Fragos' signature -- ohhhhh, lol.

[Cryptonic]

Florence Nightingale
Buffy
Olivia Dunham
Agent Carter
Mary Shelly
Marie Curie
Margaret Thatcher/ The Iron Lady
The Queen
Beatrix Kiddo

et cetera et cetera et cetera

Non of these repeat, they are not too long.

Tip: Don't change the accounts, just the account names?

No one wants to type in Florence Nightingale and Margaret Thatcher 10 times in one day just to vote lol. Usernames are easy, and people remember them and remember how to spell them.

It's a huge pain in the ass to change every name, and change every subforum, and then double check that all the permissions are right between new account names and old subforums.
They're literally just names lol. It's not worth the effort to change them when the names are normal lol

[SuperJack]

Yes account names may be easy for some. But only because they have been repeated many times, and yet some names will still be difficult to type. And I don't know about other people, but in fm games I tend to just copy and paste the names even when mobile.

I'm not using other peoples accounts names. It's something I personally don't enjoy. Especially when a good chunk of people I know. They have memories and personalities built into them.
I just don't wear other peoples suits.
And despite me generally looking forward to the game I wouldn't enjoy it with other peoples main account names, and yet I've tried it before in a previous FM game and didn't enjoy it then either.
I was given the name of someone I knew nothing about, and the game was then filled with nostalgia and references. Which left newer players clueless and older players distracted.

I appreciate that you have gone through all the effort into creating a well designed setup, containing role play and even awesome role cards.
Yet you decided to give 0 fucks about the creativity of the FM Names and went lazy, just coping names already used on the site. Which could even lead to personal attacks/insults.

I'm not telling you to change it into female name, It was a suggestion there are better alternatives to using names copied form the forum.

I'm really sorry, but I can't play in this game. It just feels wrong to use a main accounts name. And please, don't go changing the names now since I will just feel guilty with all the extra work you have to do.

/unsign

[Cryptonic]

LOL if names makes you unsign, then good riddance. That's so petty. I'm not wasting several hours changing names, sub forums, and editting all the threads when the names are fine.

IDK How I "went lazy" when the accounts were made before rolecards, but OK then lol

[SuperJack]

LOL if names makes you unsign, then good riddance. I'm not wasting several hours changing names, sub forums, and editting all the threads when the names are fine.

IDK How I "went lazy" when the accounts were made before rolecards, but OK then lol

I play FM games for fun. I enjoy Anonymous accounts because I get to add in a little roleplay which I enjoy. But when they have the names of people we know/known personally it adds the opposite effect.

[Firebringer]

I can roleplay as those old players.

Give me Ash or Bruno. I will troll the fuck out of your game.
Not even kidding. I will ruin your game by trolling it.

Edit: Cause thats what those players are, trolls.

[Cryptonic]

I can roleplay as those old players.

Give me Ash or Bruno. I will troll the fuck out of your game.
Not even kidding. I will ruin your game by trolling it.

Edit: Cause thats what those players are, trolls.

Right cause Mafia is all about roleplaying lol
Also, you don't even know Ash lol

Also 2: Guess I need to fill 2 spots.

I've already spent 2-3 hours making accounts, subforums, and putting in all the info. I'm really not wanting to spend another 2-3 hours doing it all over again because people can't play mafia without roleplaying.

[Firebringer]

Well if you don't want role play, why have anon accounts again?

[Cryptonic]

Well if you don't want role play, why have anon accounts again?

Ventriloquist, Disguiser, Ghost, Meta
y'know, the entire point of anonymous accounts.

[Firebringer]

Ventriloquist, Disguiser, Ghost, Meta
y'know, the entire point of anonymous accounts.

Ohh right.

changing your meta to follow theme of your anon account is part of the roleplay.
Harder to figure out who anyone is if they follow the theme.

The roles are just added bonus.

I see it the other way around.

[Firebringer]

Also how does it take hours to setup 30 accounts?
All you have to do is rename them if you sent them all roles and stuff....

[Cryptonic]

Also how does it take hours to setup 30 accounts?
All you have to do is rename them if you sent them all roles and stuff....

Cause I also have 34 subforums and have to make sure all the new names match the new subforums and all the threads that contain names will need to be edited to show new information. It's a lot of work to change everything while making sure everything is still correct.

[Firebringer]

I just don't understand after what Bruno did in last FM why you decided to tarnish this game by having an account named after him.

Too me it seems like asking for trouble.
But w/e.

[Cryptonic]

I just don't understand after what Bruno did in last FM why you decided to tarnish this game by having an account named after him.

Too me it seems like asking for trouble.
But w/e.

Because what kind of idiot would ruin an entire game and their own forum reputation just because they think role playing as bruno is more important than playing their role?

Your concern is non-existant.

[SuperJack]

Because what kind of idiot would ruin an entire game and their own forum reputation just because they think role playing as bruno is more important than playing their role?

Your concern is non-existant.

I think its more of : Why honour the memory of people who where toxic to the forums.

[Cryptonic]

I think its more of : Why honour the memory of people who where toxic to the forums.

How are any of these names honoring anybody's memory?
They're just anonymous account names. That's all.

[Bunny]

Yes account names may be easy for some. But only because they have been repeated many times, and yet some names will still be difficult to type. And I don't know about other people, but in fm games I tend to just copy and paste the names even when mobile.

I'm not using other peoples accounts names. It's something I personally don't enjoy. Especially when a good chunk of people I know. They have memories and personalities built into them.
I just don't wear other peoples suits.
And despite me generally looking forward to the game I wouldn't enjoy it with other peoples main account names, and yet I've tried it before in a previous FM game and didn't enjoy it then either.
I was given the name of someone I knew nothing about, and the game was then filled with nostalgia and references. Which left newer players clueless and older players distracted.

I appreciate that you have gone through all the effort into creating a well designed setup, containing role play and even awesome role cards.
Yet you decided to give 0 fucks about the creativity of the FM Names and went lazy, just coping names already used on the site. Which could even lead to personal attacks/insults.

I'm not telling you to change it into female name, It was a suggestion there are better alternatives to using names copied form the forum.

I'm really sorry, but I can't play in this game. It just feels wrong to use a main accounts name. And please, don't go changing the names now since I will just feel guilty with all the extra work you have to do.

/unsign

Lol you're retarded

[Cryptonic]

SJ, you literally delayed the game for everyone else just because you don't like anonymous name choice. I hope you realize how petty that was.

[Toadette]

I think this blew up from a fun suggestion into too much drama. Save it for the game people.

[Shifty]

While I generally don't think names should be a problem, I also think that the current anon names might lead to inside jokes between older members which will also go straight over the head of the more recent members of the forums.
It's just a possible scenario that might lead to unnecessary distractions during the game. I think stuff like that should be taken into account.

[Titus]

FM Ambient
FM AppleyNO
FM Ash
FM Blazer
FM Borkbot
FM Brendan
FM Bruno
FM Bunny
FM Chane
FM CmG
FM creedkingsx
FM Cryptonic
FM Damus_Graves
FM Dust
FM Duzero
FM Gingerape
FM Elixir
FM Fatalis
FM Goremancer
FM Frostbyte
FM Kromos
FM Lazers
FM Glip
FM Luna
FM Lysergic
FM MintBerry Crunch
FM Mugy
FM Nick
FM NoctiZ
FM Orpz
FM Raptorblaze
FM RookRanger
FM Slaol
FM Ubernox

Titus
ika
Firebringer???

[Titus]

Nah I'd feel sorry for Titus.

She'd get lynched day 1.

[Lysergic]

I think this blew up from a fun suggestion into too much drama. Save it for the game people.

Lawl; the in-game drama is going to be off the chain if this is the signup thread.

[Cryptonic]

Titus
ika
Firebringer???

The list was chosen via top posters, in specific sections, between a specific time frame. Some names were removed so I didn't have like 10 C's, or 8 N's.

[Slaol]

What a shit show

[Firebringer]

Nah I'd feel sorry for Titus.

She'd get lynched day 1.

lol so true.

[Cryptonic]

To de-sand all your vaginas, I will change the names.
I am not revealing what I am changing them to, so sign because you are interested in the setup or don't play.

[Firebringer]

To de-sand all your vaginas, I will change the names.
I am not revealing what I am changing them to, so sign because you are interested in the setup or don't play.

We love you Crypt.

More than Bunny loves you ;)

[Vedith]

/sign up please! :)

[Funce]

/sign
It wouldn't be good for me not to sign for something as glorious as this!

[Frog]

To de-sand all your vaginas, I will change the names.
I am not revealing what I am changing them to, so sign because you are interested in the setup or don't play.

That's probably for the best.

You're the host.

This is not a democracy anymore.

You put in the time, you decide.

I'm half hoping you find 34 famous dictators.

Napoleon
Stalin
Hitler
Mussolini
Castro
Mugabe
Vlad III
Kim Jong-Ill
Idi Amin Dada
Lenin
Emperor Hirohito
Chiang Kai-shek
Ho Chi Minh
Kim Il Sung
Hussein
Omar al-Bashir
Mao Zedong

etc...

[Firebringer]

Subtle.....
Really subtle..

[Cryptonic]

OK I'll be putting in some time now to get all permissions finished off. Hopefully start within a week, 2 tops

[Frog]

OK I'll be putting in some time now to get all permissions finished off. Hopefully start within a week, 2 tops

Can you give me a hand with the Cross-community M-FM plox? Not for hosting, but for the actual setup itself? I need help balancing and wording the actual rolecards. Maybe an hour tops if you have time. Shoot me a pm plox.

[SuperJack]

Sorry Cryptonic. Is there any way I can make this up to you?

Maybe Pizza?

[Klingoncelt]

Thank you, Cryptonic, the effort is appreciated.

[Mikecall]

Thank you cryptonic, :)

[AppleyNO]

OK I'll be putting in some time now to get all permissions finished off. Hopefully start within a week, 2 tops
yay!!

[Forum Mafia GM]

Alright, I managed to find a good chunk of time this weekend.
I will be sending out rolecards to Anon accounts, double checking permissions and that correct rolecard was rec'd.

I will open up the FM XXV momentarily, I hope, so that the players can go through the information and get clarifications.

I'm hoping accounts will go out tomorrow, but I don't want to promise anything.

[Forum Mafia GM]

ok the forum should be visible now. if you don't have access, give me a PM.

[Voss]

guuuysss pms with account info went out. read the role card and pm tyrion from that account so you dont get replaced

[Brigade]

If you need an alternate to fill a slot. Let me know.

/sign up

[Calix]

/sign

In case you need another person after the modkills.