Lateral Thinking Puzzle #2: Sad Money :( (Solved!)

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

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HEY EVERYPONY!!! It's time for another PARTY PUZZLE! :D

RULES:

Okay, so these things are little riddles called "lateral thinking puzzles"!! They suggest situations that sound really weird, but make so much more sense once you explain them. Yes, YOU!!!! Your job in this fun little thread is to solve the riddle... and you have as many guesses as you like!!!

If you were just guessing, though, we'd probably be here all day. So, you can also ask an unlimited number of yes or no questions! I will answer everypony's questions with "yes", "no", or "irrelevant", irrelevant as in you're asking something that just has nothing to do with the answer, silly!

If nopony gets the answer for a while, I'll give you all a hint! I usually have at least a couple of juicy hints for every riddle, so feel free to ask for one if you're collectively stumped! :D

Be careful, though! These questions can be really tricky, and you often have to take a step to the side in your assumptions to set your hooves back on the right path. You gotta think laterally!


This one is a bit harder (and the tiniest bit sad), but it's a good puzzle! It actually happened to Twilight!


PUZZLE TWO:

Twilight Sparkle stumbled across some money... and then started crying!

Why?

[oops_ur_dead]

It was from Nazi Germany.

[Ash]

Because Twilight Sparkle thought it was a one million dollar bill but it was just.. HER IMAGINATION.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

It was from Nazi Germany.

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They were regular ol' Equestrian bits! Those'd be the little gold coins we use for small currency.



Because Twilight Sparkle thought it was a one million dollar bill but it was just.. HER IMAGINATION.

Bits aren't exactly easily mistaken for large bills!

[oops_ur_dead]

Twilight was a communist.

[Dust]

Questions:
1) Is this money from the U.S.?
2) Is this money worth anything?
3) Is the fall the reason she cried?
4) Is this money in the form of paper?
5) Is this money in the form of coins?
6) Is this specific to only Twilight Sparkle? (If so, I'm screwed for this question)
7) Is this money current? (As in, do people use it in the world right now)

[TheJackofSpades]

She tripped over them and broke her legs. And she deserved it.

[Dust]

3) Is the fall the reason she cried?


Jack, stealing is a crime, you know. Tsk tsk.

:P

[TheJackofSpades]

Well I guess if that is the correct answer perhaps you should have posed it as an answer instead of a question, eh?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Twilight was a communist.

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Irrelevant, but actually, I'm not sure if she's a communist!! Maybe I should ask her?



Questions:
1) Is this money from the U.S.?
2) Is this money worth anything?
...
4) Is this money in the form of paper?
5) Is this money in the form of coins?
...
7) Is this money current? (As in, do people use it in the world right now)
I just said they were coins, Equestrian bits! Four bits would get you a bushel of apples, for reference. These were genuine, and she is currently in Equestria where she could spend them if she wanted to!!


3) Is the fall the reason she cried?
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OH MY GOD I'M DYING!!!! That was hilarious! It would have been a fantastic puzzle, too... but unfortunately, this puzzle is more complicated than that! ("Stumbled across" wasn't literal!)


6) Is this specific to only Twilight Sparkle? (If so, I'm screwed for this question)
Not at all! In fact, to make things easier on the rest of you, pretty much any question I ask doesn't have to be pony-specific unless I indicate otherwise up front!!! :D

[oops_ur_dead]

1) Did the money have anything specifically tied to it that would have made Twilight cry? Would she have cried if she had found any kind of money?
2) Did Twilight cry due to emotions?
3) Did Twilight cry out of sadness or happiness?
4) Was money tied to any previous experience that Twilight had? Any memories?
5) Did the sight of money mean that Twilight was in danger?
6) Was Twilight specifically trying to avoid money?

[Spy]

Well it's obviously because Twilight knows that money could pay for her education, but since she is a pony that has morals, and believes that the money doesn't belong to her, and she didn't really deserve it, she returned it to Plato.

[Ash]

Twilight wanted to grab the money but since she has hooves and not hands, she couldn't get a good grip of the money and then a human came and put it in their pockets,

[Dust]

I was typing before you posted about the coins. My mistake.

Other questions:
1) Has she been anywhere before she comes across the money?
2) Is this reminding her of something?
3) Is the money connected to anything?
4) Was the money at any point in time, Twilight's?
5) Did Twilight expect more money to be there?

[oops_ur_dead]

Also, did her crying serve any purpose?

[Auckmid]

1) Was Twilight's reason for crying directly related to seeing the money?
2) Would Twilight be the only Pony who would cry from seeing the money?
3) What condition was the money in that Twilght found?

[Capitalier]

WERE THEY TEARS OF LAUGHTER?

OR

WERE THEY TEARS OF JOY?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

1) Did the money have anything specifically tied to it that would have made Twilight cry? Would she have cried if she had found any kind of money?
Oh, this was a bit of specific change, alright! She didn't just find any money, nor in just any place!


2) Did Twilight cry due to emotions?
[color=pink][b]Yep! :(


3) Did Twilight cry out of sadness or happiness?
Sadness! :(


4) Was money tied to any previous experience that Twilight had? Any memories?
Not really, but she had seen the money before!


5) Did the sight of money mean that Twilight was in danger?
Nope!


6) Was Twilight specifically trying to avoid money?

Not at all! She's not short for change, from what I've seen, but it's not like she wouldn't take it where she can get it!!!



Well it's obviously because Twilight knows that money could pay for her education, but since she is a pony that has morals, and believes that the money doesn't belong to her, and she didn't really deserve it, she returned it to Plato.

Who says the money doesn't belong to her? You never asked!!



Twilight wanted to grab the money but since she has hooves and not hands, she couldn't get a good grip of the money and then a human came and put it in their pockets,

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Ponies can hold things just fine, especially with their mouths! And Twilight has magic on top of that, so she could easily levitate it unless it's really far away! (Which it's not!!!)



1) Has she been anywhere before she comes across the money?
Lots and lots of places!! I mean, she's had her whole life before coming across that money!! But you'll have to rephrase that if you want to figure out anything relevant to the puzzle, it's just too general. :)


2) Is this reminding her of something?
Nothing she didn't already have in the front of her mind before she found the money!


3) Is the money connected to anything?
Um, what do you mean?? If you mean like, physically, then no!


4) Was the money at any point in time, Twilight's?
Yes! :D

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You're getting warmer!!!


5) Did Twilight expect more money to be there?

Nope!



Also, did her crying serve any purpose?

Nah, she was just sad! :(



1) Was Twilight's reason for crying directly related to seeing the money?
Yeah, it was pretty direct!! She wouldn't have cried unless she saw it!


2) Would Twilight be the only Pony who would cry from seeing the money?
Yep!


3) What condition was the money in that Twilight found?

It was normal!

[Dust]

Some moar questions:
1) Had she JUST gone somewhere unusual before finding the money?
2) Had she given this money to someone beforehand?
3) Was this money part of a charity?
4) Will Twilight do something with the money that is altruistic in any way?
5) Has someone done anything to the money?
6) Are there other ponies around Twilight?

[Lukas]

Was the money blood money off of the murder of a fellow pony?

[oops_ur_dead]

1) Can Twilight take the money if she wanted to?
2) Is the money currently in possession of another pony?
2b) If so, then is this the cause of Twilight's crying?
3) Is the sum of money large enough that the loss of it would be the cause of Twilight's crying?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Some moar questions:
1) Had she JUST gone somewhere unusual before finding the money?
Irrelevant! :)


2) Had she given this money to someone beforehand?
Nope!!


3) Was this money part of a charity?
Nuh-uh!


4) Will Twilight do something with the money that is altruistic in any way?
Irrelevant! :D


5) Has someone done anything to the money?
Nope, not at all!


6) Are there other ponies around Twilight?
Also irrelevant!



Was the money blood money off of the murder of a fellow pony?
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Twilight wouldn't have anything like THAT!



1) Can Twilight take the money if she wanted to?
Mhmm!


2) Is the money currently in possession of another pony?
2b) If so, then is this the cause of Twilight's crying?
No... and YES, respectively!


3) Is the sum of money large enough that the loss of it would be the cause of Twilight's crying?

Nope!

[Lukas]

Was the money blood money off of the murder of a fellow pony?
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Sorry, im in my right mind.

[Lukas]

IT MUST BE ANOTHER PONY"S FORTURNE!!!!

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

IT MUST BE ANOTHER PONY"S FORTURNE!!!!

I don't know anypony who'd have money as their fortune!

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Well, except maybe Rarity.

[oops_ur_dead]

2) Is the money currently in possession of another pony?
2b) If so, then is this the cause of Twilight's crying?
No... and YES, respectively!

So the cause of crying is that the money ISN'T in possession of another pony?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

So the cause of crying is that the money ISN'T in possession of another pony?

Exactly!

But why??

You should ask some more questions!

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[oops_ur_dead]

1) Did Twilight intend for this other pony to receive the money?
2) Did Twilight personally give this other pony the money?
3) Was this other pony ever in possession of the money?
4) Did they spend the money? If so, is this why Twilight is crying?

[Narks]

seriously who is this guy

[mrzwach]

oh my god
what did you people do to blast

D:

[Ash]

seriously who is this guy


somepony that is cool.

[BlastYoBoots]

oh my god
what did you people do to blast

D:



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[Ming Vase of Hitler]

1) Did Twilight intend for this other pony to receive the money?
Hmmm.... You should probably rephrase the question a bit! Who is "this" pony??


2) Did Twilight personally give this other pony the money?
3) Was this other pony ever in possession of the money?
4) Did they spend the money? If so, is this why Twilight is crying?

All "no"s!



seriously who is this guy

Irrelevant!

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[Ming Vase of Hitler]

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QUESTIONS ONLY, please!!!!!!! <3 <3

[Narks]

why must you be so homosexual

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

why must you be so homosexual

Oh, don't get me started!

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But... irrelevant!

[Maverick.]

Does the money have anything to do with somepony dead?
Maybe shes at the cemetery?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Does the money have anything to do with somepony dead?
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OF COURSE NOT, SILLY!!!


Maybe shes at the cemetery?

Nope! She isn't at a cemetery!

[Clawtrocity]

She found the money that she gave to another pony. That other pony had recently died and she knew it was the same money because she drew a heart on it because she loved the pony that died.

Did I seriously just try to fucking solve this niggers' problem?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

She found the money that she gave to another pony. That other pony had recently died and she knew it was the same money because she drew a heart on it because she loved the pony that died.
Nope! This wasn't at a cemetary, and the bits were ordinary! Not a mark to be found on 'em!


Did I seriously just try to fucking solve this niggers' problem?

Oh yes you di-iid, sistah!

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Unh, unh, yeah! I am a straight-up gangsta pony, y'all!

(These puzzles are pretty fun, it's hard to resist them, isn't it? And you won't be short of them, either! I expect to be around for a loooooooong time!!! <3 )

[monster]

1)Was the money meant to buy something?
2)Was it ransom money?
3)Did the money fall off a vehicle/person that was carrying it?
4)Is the location of the money important?

[Maverick.]

Ok she dropped her money, but didnt see, so she walked over the coins and when she looked down she dropped her ice-cream so she started crying.

[Barry]

is it because she stumbled over it? she probably hurt herself, herp derp I can think laterally

either that or because she is a woman

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

1)Was the money meant to buy something?
Nope!


2)Was it ransom money?
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What RANSOM?? Nope, nobody's holding anyone ransom around here, heheh! That would be silly. You're silly.


3)Did the money fall off a vehicle/person that was carrying it?
Nope!


4)Is the location of the money important?
YES, very!



Ok she dropped her money, but didnt see, so she walked over the coins and when she looked down she dropped her ice-cream so she started crying.

No, she wouldn't cry over spilled ice cream! Not unless it landed in one of her favorite books or something, which it didn't because there was no ice cream!

I want ice cream.



is it because she stumbled over it? she probably hurt herself, herp derp I can think laterally
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You should really read the whole thread before posting questions or guesses!!


either that or because she is a woman

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(Heehee, kidding!)

[philie]

is she sad because she forgot to pay it somewhere?

is she sad it's the last piece of money she had?

did something else happen to get apart from finding the money at that moment?

was somepony else involved in this situation or just twilight?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

is she sad because she forgot to pay it somewhere?
Nope!


is she sad it's the last piece of money she had?
Not at all! She's pretty well off in that regard. I've seen her afford lots of crazy stuff!!

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did something else happen to get apart from finding the money at that moment?
To 'her' you mean? Nope! At that moment, she found the money, and that was it!


was somepony else involved in this situation or just twilight?
Nope! Just her!

[monster]

Ok, the pony went to visit a friend in his house. Her friend wasn't there. She saw the money at her friend's table through the window and immediately recognized it as hers. She became sad because that meant her friend stole from her.

[oops_ur_dead]

1) Was the crying related to a use or misuse of the money?
2) You mentioned that the place was important. Had Twilight seen the money in any other place, would she have cried?
3) Was the money meant to be in possession of another pony?

[Ash]

Did Twilight expect the money to be somewhere better?

P.S: Whenever I think of Twilight I think of the movie.

[oops_ur_dead]

1) Can Twilight take the money if she wanted to?
Mhmm!

[philie]

Is the money a reward for something twilight isnt very proud of?

[TheJackofSpades]

Do you think Philie is attractive, Pinkie Pie?

[philie]

You're making me blush and giggle uncontrollably.

[CptGorilla]

Twilight Sparkle was just sold into a life of slavery.

[Lukas]

Twilight Sparkle was just sold into a life of slavery.


1+

[NorthStar]

Was friendship with the money NOT magic?

[oops_ur_dead]

Also, when Twilight saw the money, was it changing hands?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Ok, the pony went to visit a friend in his house. Her friend wasn't there. She saw the money at her friend's table through the window and immediately recognized it as hers. She became sad because that meant her friend stole from her.

Wrong again!

You should pay a little closer attention to the answers I've already given! This one was a biggie:





So the cause of crying is that the money ISN'T in possession of another pony?

Exactly!

But why??

You should ask some more questions!
Heehee! You should really start figuring out why that was the case!



1) Was the crying related to a use or misuse of the money?
Nope! :D


2) You mentioned that the place was important. Had Twilight seen the money in any other place, would she have cried?
NO, she wouldn't have cried at all were it ANYWHERE else! :D


3) Was the money meant to be in possession of another pony?
Pretty much, yeah!! By the time she found it, that is!



Did Twilight expect the money to be somewhere better?
Define "better"!!


P.S: Whenever I think of Twilight I think of the movie.
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Is the money a reward for something twilight isnt very proud of?
Nope!



Do you think Philie is attractive, Pinkie Pie?
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She looks like one cute little kitty!! I'm more of an alligator person, though. Rarity's the one who's into cats!

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Twilight Sparkle was just sold into a life of slavery.
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Is that... wishful thinking I detect??

If you get anywhere near Twilight, I'm flagging down some guards!!! :)



Was friendship with the money NOT magic?
You can be FRIENDS with money?? :O

If Twilight had a new money friend, she'd have told me so I could throw them a party! So clearly, that is not the case!!



Also, when Twilight saw the money, was it changing hands?

Nope!

[monster]

Was the location of the money outdoors/indoors?
Is water involved?
Will the pony that should be in possession the money be in trouble without it?
Was our pony responsible in any way for the money not being where it was intended to be?

[Pedobear]

Was the location where the money was found where a tragedy for Twillight occured?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Was the location of the money outdoors/indoors?
Indoors!

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Wheeeeeee!!!


Is water involved?
No, apart from her crying I guess!


Will the pony that should be in possession the money be in trouble without it?
Not at all! Irrelevant, actually!


Was our pony responsible in any way for the money not being where it was intended to be?
Hmmmm..... Maybe indirectly, but it's hard to say! She certainly thought she was responsible at the time! But this is getting a bit tricksy; I suggest you go down another line or two of questioning before poking in this direction again, else you might get lost!



Was the location where the money was found where a tragedy for Twillight occured?
Nope!

[Pedobear]

Was the location of the money outdoors/indoors?
Indoors!

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Wheeeeeee!!!


Is water involved?
No, apart from her crying I guess!


Will the pony that should be in possession the money be in trouble without it?
Not at all! Irrelevant, actually!


Was our pony responsible in any way for the money not being where it was intended to be?
Hmmmm..... Maybe indirectly, but it's hard to say! She certainly thought she was responsible at the time! But this is getting a bit tricksy; I suggest you go down another line or two of questioning before poking in this direction again, else you might get lost!



Was the location where the money was found where a tragedy for Twillight occured?
Nope!


Was the money stolen, damage, or has been tampered with?

[monster]

narrowing down the place first:

Was it twilight's home?
Was it a public building?
Was it someone's home?
Was it a specific room within a building?

[oops_ur_dead]

1) Was Twilight crying because the money was not in possession of a friend or an enemy?
2) If Twilight had not seen the money, would it have affected her in any other way?
3) Was this other pony present when Twilight saw the money?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Was the money stolen, damage, or has been tampered with?
Not at all!



narrowing down the place first:

Was it twilight's home?
Was it a public building?
Was it someone's home?
Was it a specific room within a building?
It was in Twilight's home, which for the most part is a public building!!! She lives in the library, and has some private rooms in it! However, the money was in the public section!!



1) Was Twilight crying because the money was not in possession of a friend or an enemy?
Either!


2) If Twilight had not seen the money, would it have affected her in any other way?
Yes!!! She would have become pretty happy and satisfied, if she hadn't seen the money!

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3) Was this other pony present when Twilight saw the money?
Nopony else was present!

[monster]

So to sum up what we know so far:

Our pony saw her money in her house and that made her very sad and she started crying.
The money was supposed to be in possession of another pony at the time she found it.

More questions:
Is the other pony's identity relevant?
Has the money been given personally or sent to the other pony by twilight?
Was the money returned by the second pony?
Was the money ever meant to be exchanged for something?

[CptGorilla]

Is the money her's?
Was she giving it or supposed to give it to someone?
Did someone give it to her (as payment for example)?

Also, does the word "stumble" (in the original riddle) suggest she wasn't expecting to see the money there? "Not expecting" as in would never have guessed to see the money there. Or was is more of a "Let's see if the money is there... OH NOES!!! IT IS!!! *CRY*"

[TheJackofSpades]

Twilight Sparkle saw the money and realized she hadn't paid her bills. She's being evicted tomorrow.

/thread

edit: wrong pony. Not that anyone but Fluttershy matters.

[Pedobear]

Was the money stolen, damage, or has been tampered with?
Not at all!



narrowing down the place first:

Was it twilight's home?
Was it a public building?
Was it someone's home?
Was it a specific room within a building?
It was in Twilight's home, which for the most part is a public building!!! She lives in the library, and has some private rooms in it! However, the money was in the public section!!



1) Was Twilight crying because the money was not in possession of a friend or an enemy?
Either!


2) If Twilight had not seen the money, would it have affected her in any other way?
Yes!!! She would have become pretty happy and satisfied, if she hadn't seen the money!

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3) Was this other pony present when Twilight saw the money?
Nopony else was present!


Was the money counterfeit?

[TheJackofSpades]

Only two questions required at this point are:
Was the money ever in possession of the pony it was supposed to be in possession of?
Was the money discarded by the second pony?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Is the other pony's identity relevant?
It isn't! But there's an eensy sliver of meaning you're actually missing, here!

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Has the money been given personally or sent to the other pony by twilight?
Nope!


Was the money returned by the second pony?
Irrelevant!


Was the money ever meant to be exchanged for something?
No, not really! Well, not in any traditional sense!!!



Is the money hers?
YES, it is!


Was she giving it or supposed to give it to someone?
Kiiiiiiinda, but not really!


Did someone give it to her (as payment for example)?
It'd have been long enough ago to be irrelevant!


Also, does the word "stumble" (in the original riddle) suggest she wasn't expecting to see the money there? "Not expecting" as in would never have guessed to see the money there. Or was is more of a "Let's see if the money is there... OH NOES!!! IT IS!!! *CRY*"
It was EXACTLY the latter!!!



Pinkie Pie saw the money and realized she hadn't paid her bills. She's being evicted tomorrow.
Twilight found the money, not me!! And I'm pretty sure Celestia is funding her stay in Ponyville, not her. I hope she never gets evicted; Celestia would probably send her to the moon!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4f9m4OYkCY#


Was the money counterfeit?

No, I told you it was normal money already!!!



Only two questions required at this point are:
Was the money ever in possession of the pony it was supposed to be in possession of?
Was the money discarded by the second pony?

Nope!

[CptGorilla]

How relevant is the type of money (Equestrian bits), and the quantity of money (or value of the money: "small currency")?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

How relevant is the type of money (Equestrian bits), and the quantity of money (or value of the money: "small currency")?

It's relevant that it was only a few bits, as opposed to, like, a bulky pile or high-value note or some such!!!

[CptGorilla]

Are we still missing a vital piece of information? (Can the riddle be solved with all information discovered to date?)

[Pedobear]

Is the other pony's identity relevant?
It isn't! But there's an eensy sliver of meaning you're actually missing, here!

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Has the money been given personally or sent to the other pony by twilight?
Nope!


Was the money returned by the second pony?
Irrelevant!


Was the money ever meant to be exchanged for something?
No, not really! Well, not in any traditional sense!!!



Is the money hers?
YES, it is!


Was she giving it or supposed to give it to someone?
Kiiiiiiinda, but not really!


Did someone give it to her (as payment for example)?
It'd have been long enough ago to be irrelevant!


Also, does the word "stumble" (in the original riddle) suggest she wasn't expecting to see the money there? "Not expecting" as in would never have guessed to see the money there. Or was is more of a "Let's see if the money is there... OH NOES!!! IT IS!!! *CRY*"
It was EXACTLY the latter!!!



Pinkie Pie saw the money and realized she hadn't paid her bills. She's being evicted tomorrow.
Twilight found the money, not me!! And I'm pretty sure Celestia is funding her stay in Ponyville, not her. I hope she never gets evicted; Celestia would probably send her to the moon!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4f9m4OYkCY#


Was the money counterfeit?

No, I told you it was normal money already!!!



Only two questions required at this point are:
Was the money ever in possession of the pony it was supposed to be in possession of?
Was the money discarded by the second pony?

Nope!


SO.. YOUR A BITCH THAT DOESN'T LIKE BANANAS? WHERE I KNOW WHERE YOU AINT FINDING ANY BANANAS...ON THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONAAAAAAA! bitch.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Are we still missing a vital piece of information? (Can the riddle be solved with all information discovered to date?)

Oh, you're missing a couple very, very important things!!!

I'll give you a hint! The BARE minimum you've left to find to figure this out is:

- A subtle distinction about who the money was meant for, and...

- Where the money was!!!

You might be able to add everything up after that... Or you might not!!! We'll just have to SEE!! :D

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkiegroove.gif

[Pedobear]

Are we still missing a vital piece of information? (Can the riddle be solved with all information discovered to date?)

Oh, you're missing a couple very, very important things!!!

I'll give you a hint! The BARE minimum you've left to find to figure this out is:

- A subtle distinction about who the money was meant for, and...

- Where the money was!!!

You might be able to add everything up after that... Or you might not!!! We'll just have to SEE!! :D

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkiegroove.gif


Is the money have a sadface on it?

[monster]

Was the money in a container of any sort?
Was it someplace unreachable?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Is the money have a sadface on it?

Nope (http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Bits), but it'd be really neat if the money had happy faces on it!!! I think Ponyopoly money had something like that, too. I should remember to bring it out at the next party!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkiearmsupparty.jpg



Was the money in a container of any sort?
Yeah, soooooortaaaaaa.... :D


Was it someplace unreachable?
Nope!

[Pedobear]

Did it have a nazi sign on it?

[Spy]

The money was in a jar of raw onions.

[Pedobear]

The money was in a jar of raw onions.


http://i.huffpost.com/gen/272734/thumbs/r-OSAMA-BIN-LADEN-large570.jpg

[NorthStar]

Pinky Pie just simply isn`t a greedy person. She felt sad because when she does return the money, there won`t be any recognition or reward for doing such a good deed. They won`t even smile at her. It`s the end of her social life, because of this Ponyopoly bill. (That happens to be 1 dollar)

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

This is Twilight, not Pinkie.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Did it have a nazi sign on it?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/nazipinkieanim2.gif



The money was in a jar of raw onions.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkielolsmall.jpg

You guys are amazing!!! But sorry, nope! I've already answered that she cried due to emotions!



Pinky Pie just simply isn`t a greedy person. She felt sad because when she does return the money, there won`t be any recognition or reward for doing such a good deed. They won`t even smile at her. It`s the end of her social life, because of this Ponyopoly bill. (That happens to be 1 dollar)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkieinsaneroom.jpg

I'll ALWAYS have friends!!!!!

(And yeah, this is about Twilight, not me!!)

[NorthStar]

Rainbow Dash is my favorite pony and shes really fast at flying. Maybe Twilight is simply jealous.

[Auckmid]

Was Twilight unable to reach the Jar?
Had Twilight already given the money to soemone else?
Was the money stolen from Twilight?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Rainbow Dash is my favorite pony and shes really fast at flying. Maybe Twilight is simply jealous.

We're all jealous of Rainbow Dash!! That doesn't mean we'd cry over it at random!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/rainbowdashupsidedownUMAD.png



Was Twilight unable to reach the Jar?
Nopony ever said anything about a jar!!! And I've already told you how good Twilight's reach is; she's even used her magic to uproot something from across town once!


Had Twilight already given the money to soemone else?
Nope!


Was the money stolen from Twilight?
Wrong!

[Ash]

This puzzle is too hard.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

This puzzle is too hard.

Well why didn't you just say so? I told you that I have HINTS on standby for every single puzzle!!! :D

HINT: She found the money exactly where she left it!!

Also, I told you that the location was very important, and you still haven't narrowed down what it is, yet! Keep guessing!!!! I'm gonna go grab a snack!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkiechewingsquishy.gif

[TheJackofSpades]

Was the money in a book?
Was the money on a table?
Was the money behind the receptionist desk?
Was the money in the book return dropoff bin?
Was the money hidden behind a false bookcase?
Was the money in the butterfly box thing(do they have those at your libraries?)

If it was in a book, was the book of some significance to Twilight Sparkle?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

I'm back! Hold a second though, those cupcakes were pretty dry, I need to finish them off with some chocolate milk.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkiebathingchocolaterain.gif

Ah, that's better!!



What the money in a book?

If it was in a book, was the book of some significance to Twilight Sparkle?

[color=pink][b]Yes, YES, YES!!! Oh, you're so close I can almost TASTE it- no wait, that's the chocolate milk!

[TheJackofSpades]

I see...

Was she upset that the book had been checked out by mistake? Or, that the book she had purchased was checked out by mistake?

I can ask the questions but I haven't been paying enough attention to the thread to put it together.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Was she upset that the book had been checked out by mistake? Or, that the book she had purchased was checked out by mistake?

I can ask the questions but I haven't been paying enough attention to the thread to put it together.

Nope! You should really read the entire thread if you want a good chance of getting things right; you guys have about enough to solve the entire thing, if you're really clever!!!

[TheJackofSpades]

Did she accidentally leave the money in the book when she returned it?

Fuck this is hard, especially with 7 pages worth of questions.

[Pedobear]

Was she upset that the book had been checked out by mistake? Or, that the book she had purchased was checked out by mistake?

I can ask the questions but I haven't been paying enough attention to the thread to put it together.

Nope! You should really read the entire thread if you want a good chance of getting things right; you guys have about enough to solve the entire thing, if you're really clever!!!


Could we get one more hint?

Did Twillight Sparkle know that the book followed some significance towards the money?
Was she sad because the money was located inside the book?
Was the book wet?
Was the book being blocked off by something, such as a barrier?(bookcase/etc)

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Did she accidentally leave the money in the book when she returned it?

Nope! She left the money in the book intentionally!!!



Could we get one more hint?
Maybe in a little while! Seriously, you are so close! You wouldn't believe how close you are!

You can do it!

YOU CAN DO IT!!!

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Did Twillight Sparkle know that the book followed some significance towards the money?
[color=pink][b]Followed some... huh? Could you rephrase that a bit?


Was she sad because the money was located inside the book?
[color=pink][b]Yes!


Was the book wet?
Was the book being blocked off by something, such as a barrier?(bookcase/etc)

Nope!

[Yayap]

Is the type of book important?

[Pedobear]

Okay, so I think I got it.


Twillight Sparkle was sad & she was crying because she forgot her money inside her library book & it was already turned in so she had no way to get the money back, so she was crying in hopes to get her money back.

AmIRite?

[TheJackofSpades]

Was she sad because she put the money in the wrong book?

[fred]

Did the money have anything to do with a birthday? :)

[fred]

I have a feeling that the money was a present meant for the other pony, left in their favorite book. She was sad to see that after the other pony had taken the book, the money remained in place. That's all that I can think of :(

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Is the type of book important?

Not all that important... not the type, that is!!



Twillight Sparkle was sad & she was crying because she forgot her money inside her library book & it was already turned in so she had no way to get the money back, so she was crying in hopes to get her money back.

[color=pink][b]She pretty much runs the library! What keeps her from just taking them out, and why cry over a measly few bits??



Was she sad because she put the money in the wrong book?

Nope, she put it in exactly the book she intended to! :D



Did the money have anything to do with a birthday? :)

I wish!! Maybe a money birthday? OOH, a money DANCE birthday!!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkiedancefloor.gif



I have a feeling that the money was a present meant for the other pony, left in their favorite book. She was sad to see that after the other pony had taken the book, the money remained in place. That's all that I can think of :(

No, but you're getting pretty warm!!!

[Pedobear]

hint pl0x

[TheJackofSpades]

Was the book important to the pony the money was intended to go to?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Was the book important to the pony the money was intended to go to?

Nope! Only to Twilight herself!

[Pedobear]

Was the book important to the pony the money was intended to go to?

Nope! Only to Twilight herself!


Hint..pl0x

[TheJackofSpades]

Do not give another hint. Just because this guy doesn't want to use his brain doesn't mean the challenge should be diminished anymore than it already has.

[Pedobear]

Was the book important to the pony the money was intended to go to?

Nope! Only to Twilight herself!


Okay, so I think I got it after thinking for 5 seconds after JoS called me stupid basically.

The book was in the public section of her library right?

That means if the book was important to her, somehow it must have been moved to the public section of her living quarters & it has the money inside of it so she started crying & was sad.

^ Possibilities? Alot.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

Hint..pl0x

Not yeeeeeeeet!!!

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[Pedobear]

Hint..pl0x

Not yeeeeeeeet!!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkieumad1.png


Fucking raging. But was my theory correct?

[Dark.Revenant]

I will ask only one question, wait for your reply, and then answer.

If the physical shape/characteristics of the money is/are relevant, what are said physical characteristics of the money?

[Omar]

Was the book a journal of some sort?

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

The book was in the public section of her library right?

That means if the book was important to her, somehow it must have been moved to the public section of her living quarters & it has the money inside of it so she started crying & was sad.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4559980/reaction/pinkieeyebrowraised.png

But then what would the money have to do with it at all?

We've already covered that the money was the reason she cried, and that if she'd found it anywhere else, she wouldn't have!!!



I will ask only one question, wait for your reply, and then answer.

If the physical shape/characteristics of the money is/are relevant, what are said physical characteristics of the money?

Well, I suppose I'll answer this even though it's not yes-or-no, and it'll count as your HINT!

The only thing relevant physically about the bits is that they're small enough to stay squeezed between the pages of a closed book unnoticed!!!



Was the book a journal of some sort?

Not quite, but what you're asking is relevant!

[Pedobear]

But then what would the money have to do with it at all?

We've already covered that the money was the reason she cried, and that if she'd found it anywhere else, she wouldn't have!!!

1). Was it because she is broke & the money isn't enough?
2). She doesn't like the stored place of the money
3). Is the book torn, ripped, damaged, or tarnished in anyway possible?

[Barry]

where do you get all your pony pics?

[TheJackofSpades]

Let's talk about what this money's supposed purpose was.
1) Was this money intended to stay in the book?
2) Was the book intended to be transferred somewhere else with the money inside?
3) Was the money intended to be hidden inside the book the entire time?

[Dark.Revenant]

She placed the money as a bookmark, hoping someone would pick the book up and find the currency-marker there to read what was written there. Finding that nobody cared/bothered, she was sad.

[Pedobear]

where do you get all your pony pics?


Ponyopolis.



She placed the money as a bookmark, hoping someone would pick the book up and find the currency-marker there to read what was written there. Finding that nobody cared/bothered, she was sad.


Damn, /b/ro



Let's talk about what this money's supposed purpose was.
3) Was the money intended to be hidden inside the book the entire time?


If this was the case, then the book would not be in her public territory.

[TheJackofSpades]

Sorry didn't realize assumptions could be made over unorthodox situations.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

1). Was it because she is broke & the money isn't enough?
Of course not! Again, if she'd found the SAME money ANYWHERE else, she wouldn't have cried!!!


2). She doesn't like the stored place of the money
But we already established that she found it exactly where she left it!!


3). Is the book torn, ripped, damaged, or tarnished in anyway possible?
Irrelevant! The book might have gotten knocked around a bit during organization, but it probably wasn't in that bad of a condition considering the bits were still between the pages!


But... :O What's this??


She placed the money as a bookmark, hoping someone would pick the book up and find the currency-marker there to read what was written there. Finding that nobody cared/bothered, she was sad.

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YES!!! YOU DID IT!!!!! Or got close enough, at least!

Alright, here's the whole story. Twilight actually WROTE that book herself! I know, amazing, right?? And then she told everypony about the book and put in the shelf for checkout - or ponies to just sit in the library and read it - and went out of town for a while! But before she left, she wanted to make extra extra sure that she'd know if someone read what she'd written, even if they didn't check it out! So she left a couple bits between the pages, thinking that anypony who read it would have the bits fall out and take them for themselves!!!

When she came back, she saw that the bits were still there, meaning NOPONY had read her book, so she cried! :( But in reality, of course, Applejack and Fluttershy had both taken turns reading it in the library, and were too concerned that Twilight must have lost the bits or left them as a bookmark to keep them out of place! So she cheered up in the end and everything worked out GREAT!!!! :D

Congratulations on your hard work, everypony! I'll have a fresh question up soon!!

[Pedobear]

I don't get how your hints linked to this..at all. But that's just me. I'm derpanese.

[Ming Vase of Hitler]

I don't get how your hints linked to this..at all. But that's just me. I'm derpanese.

Try reading the thread again with the answer in mind! You'll see all the assumptions that were holding you back!!!

[Pedobear]

Try reading the thread again with the answer in mind! You'll see all the assumptions that were holding you back!!!


Mehhhhh. I'm tired & lazy. so goodnight.

[CptGorilla]

Meh... I prefer my thought that she was sold into a life of slavery...

[Jim]

I know this was solved, but i think this is an acceptable answer also.
Twilight had lost her money which was to pay her mortgage.
Knowing she couldn't pay it in time and she would lose her home without it she turned to a life of crime.
Twilight starting to be a hooker on the street. She raised enough money to pay her mortgage but the doctors said she got a STD.
She had to use all the money to pay doctor money and was soon to lose her house.
She found the Money and started to cry over what just happened.

[swEEt]

these are retarded puzzles and not thinking puzzles at all.


ready ill make one the same level as yours.

one guy died. How did he die?

Queue infinite guesses, Answer he died because a parrot hit him in the balls causing him to get prostate cancer and die a few years later.

If you see the answer and you dont go OHHH thats it when you re read the question its retarded

[Ash]

these are retarded puzzles and not thinking puzzles at all.


ready ill make one the same level as yours.

one guy died. How did he die?

Queue infinite guesses, Answer he died because a parrot hit him in the balls causing him to get prostate cancer and die a few years later.

If you see the answer and you dont go OHHH thats it when you re read the question its retarded

nice necro.
also ponies/bronies are not as smart as to realize that.