FM7 FAQ Thread

[Raiden]

FM7 will start October 18th 2011 @ 9 p.m. CEST (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9+pm+CEST+October+18+2011)

Setup:

President Shinra (Godfather)
Rufus (consigliere)
Hidden Mafia role
Hidden Mafia role
Reno (Framer)
Elena (Consort)
Hidden Mafia role
Hidden Mafia role
Professor Hojo (Cult Leader)
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral
Hidden Benign Neutral
Cop (Sheriff)
Investigator
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

The "One Winged Angel" role is a modified Serial Killer. Sephiroth is invulnerable at night, cannot be culted, and will be yielding the Black Materia, which charges up everytime he kills someone. The night after he managed to successfully kill 4 people, he will be able to kill twice, bypassing all kinds of protections, healing and invulnerabilities. During that period Sephiroth will be immune to roleblock and manipulation.

Possible hidden roles
Mafia: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Drug Dealer, Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Mafioso.
Benign Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Student, Survivor, Witch.
Town: Bodyguard, Bus Driver, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Mason, Sheriff, Veteran, Vigilante.

Some of roles listed above may or may not have unique names. You will eventually discover them while playing.

Role and Game Options:
Amnesiac: Although the Amnesiac is not immune to Roleblock and Witching, his action has higher priority than those effects, thus he won't be actually affected by them. He will still receive a notification.

Bodyguard: Bodyguard kills do NOT ignore healing, protections and invulnerabilities.

Bus Driver: Cannot target self.

Consigliere: Sadly, i couldn't have the consigliere replacing the Godfather in this setup. It would have fit perfectly with the RP, but red mafia would have been too powerful. Sorry.

Consort: NOT immune to roleblocks.

Coroner: Will block Grave Robbers if they target the same corpse at the same time.

Cultists: Cult suicide ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability. Players who are to suicide are chosen at random.

Detective: If your target is framed, you will receive false information. If your target is President Shinra or Hojo, you will not be able to track their movements.

Disguiser: Will automatically sanitize its target. Disguiser can be sent for the kill before and after his disguise action, but he cannot double kill on his own.

Escort: NOT immune to roleblocks.

Executioner: Target is always town. If Executioner must suicide due to his target dying at night, his suicide ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability.

Ghost: Will not read the dead chat. Possessed person will not be able to speak, vote, or use any ability during that day.

Jailor: Can always jail, but will be able to execute only after no-lynch days. Jailor execution ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability. While in jail, your captive will be immune to attacks and will be roleblocked for that night.

Jester: Jester suicide ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability.

Lookout: If your target is framed, you will receive false information. You will not notice President Shinra and Hojo visiting other people.

Sephiroth (One Winged Angel): If Sephiroth is jailed while he is able to use a fully charged Black Materia, he will automatically kill the jailor and will be able to choose a second target to kill. Normal roleblocks and witching attempts will simply fail (they will not be informed).

Veteran: Veteran kills do NOT ignore healing, protections and invulnerabilities. When you have an active alert, you will block all incoming actions towards you (including bus driving, roleblocking, witching and stealing).

Vigilante: Day Time shots will not be announced if they fail to kill their target. The Vigilante will receive a notification that he failed to kill his target.

Witch: Can target self. Can make a player target himself. Target will be informed of your witching attempt.

Death Notes: All evil roles with killing as their primary ability (Godfather, Mafioso, One Winged Angel and a Ninja with killing powers) may choose to leave a Death Note on their target. To do this, add "-Death Note TEXT" next to your kill command, either via PM or subforums.

Win priority: Sephiroth > Mafia > Cult > Town. Victory checks will happen at the beginning and at the end of each day. "Nobody Wins" scenario happen when there is a 1v1 between two different mafias, or when everyone (except ghost and jester) is dead on a victory check.

[Ash]

Is there any reqiurements to join?

Edit: 1st post noobs 8)

[Raiden]

Is there any reqiurements to join?


You must not be one of these people or any of their alts: Narks, Caress, Crimson, Capitalier.

[FalseTruth]

Add suicidalnoob to that list.

[Raiden]

By the way, is Student also present here?


Student is in the pool of the possible benign neutral roles. We will have 1 or 2 of those depending on the number of players signed up (most probably 2). As they are hidden roles, you don't get to know what they are until you discover them in the actual game.

[FalseTruth]

When do we get to see the role list?

[Raiden]

When do we get to see the role list?


As soon as we reach a significant amount of signups. We might tweak the setup a little bit depending on the number of players, nothing major though.

[monster]

1. So when can we expect it to start? Sign-ups are getting filled extremely fast.
2. Not really a question. I am just exited to see journalist in, seems like epic lulz could be had with that role. :)
3. Also more dayshot vigilantes pls, they worked awesome imo

[EagleMan]

so what is forum mafia

[Raiden]

1. So when can we expect it to start? Sign-ups are getting filled extremely fast.
2. Not really a question. I am just exited to see journalist in, seems like epic lulz could be had with that role. :)
3. Also more dayshot vigilantes pls, they worked awesome imo


1. Assuming the current FM will end within the week, we will be able to start Monday. Worst case scenario, Tuesday (EU time).
2. Glad to know :) we liked it the instant we read it.
3. Vigilantes, if present, will have 3 total shots, one of which can be used at day. Or you can use all 3 of them at night, your choice.

[TheJackofSpades]

Forum mafia is a game of mafia on the forums. Nights and days last much longer than a normal game(24 hours and 24-48 hours respectively), and the focus is more on analysis and discussion over night actions(though night actions are still integral to the game).

It's a game for people who think that they would be awesome at mafia if they had more than 1 minute 30 seconds to convince people to their side of thinking, I guess.

[Raiden]

so what is forum mafia


It is a game of mafia played in a forum environment. This means longer days, longer nights, a LOT more communication, some new roles and mechanics and all that. You should be able to see FM1, 2 and 3 in the archive section of this forum.

Be warned though, it requires a lot of time and dedication in order to be played properly. Some roles may be easier than others, some may be more challenging, but none them can be played in a careless and fastpaced manner like SC2 pubs are.

(Also, what Jack said)

[Jimmy1]

It isn't of any particular importance, but what is the naming theme going to be?

[Sonya]

why is suicidalnoob a bad person exactly?

[Raiden]

It isn't of any particular importance, but what is the naming theme going to be?


Sorry, what do you mean?

[Jimmy1]

I'm talking about the names of the player accounts (like Jimmy for instance). I don't know if you guys are using a theme or not, but one can always hope...

[Raiden]

I'm talking about the names of the player accounts (like Jimmy for instance). I don't know if you guys are using a theme or not, but one can always hope...


Ah, i see. I need to talk to Elixir about that. I'd like to reuse the current names, if possible. Registering 30+ accounts every time is a bit redundant if you ask me.

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

will there be any more bullshit metaplay

but yes, what's the citizens to other role ratio/current listing and how it's going to be affected depending on playercount or so?

[Raiden]

will there be any more bullshit metaplay


The less meta is involved, the better. Codes will have to be evaluated by us and approved before using. Everyone knows how to manage their online/offline status, so that's up to them.



but yes, what's the citizens to other role ratio/current listing and how it's going to be affected depending on playercount or so?


We currently have a 34-people setup with two 4-people mafia, 5 neutrals and 21 towns, 8 of which are citizens. If we reach the intended 36 people cap, we will add 2 more citizens. If we get fewer people, we'll think about it.

[suicidaln00b]

Add suicidalnoob to that list.


wat did i do wrong...so much h8

in this Comumtiney

its just a game why ARE you so HONTILE

[Jimmy1]

I'm talking about the names of the player accounts (like Jimmy for instance). I don't know if you guys are using a theme or not, but one can always hope...


Ah, i see. I need to talk to Elixir about that. I'd like to reuse the current names, if possible. Registering 30+ accounts every time is a bit redundant if you ask me.


Me and this account have had some good times together... I hope it finds a good owner...

[Zane]

Could I rename Jesse to Sexy then?

[Jerry]

if you use the old acc you may give new names, else it may cause confusion imho

[Auckmid]

I have a big question. Will there be a cult?

[Elixir]

I'll reset all the accounts before dr strips my admin power away for you.

[Raiden]

We'll deal with the account names later.



I have a big question. Will there be a cult?


Yes, there will be a cult. However, the setup was designed so that the cult faction won't get out of control. They will have more counters than what we have seen previously.

[Elixir]

Gogo professor Hojo.

[Velma]

Gogo professor Hojo.


I was thinking Sephiroth or Jenova recruiting people into followers for the reunion

[TheJackofSpades]

S'not so. Fuck Advent Children anyway.

[jaczac]

why is this FM7 when it should be FM6?

[Velma]

S'not so. Fuck Advent Children anyway.


its not advent children. Play FF7 again, on your way to the Northern Crater you'll see black hooded men in buildings saying stuff like, "Reunion"

[TheJackofSpades]

Those were the failed soldiers injected with the cells of Jenova. Which was Hojo's doing. Sephiroth had nothing to do with it.

[SimpleFigment]

I see his point, sephiroth did not physically infect those people or anything like that...

I don't know if i would state he had -nothing- to do with that, but certainly nothing directly :D

[Velma]

Those were the failed soldiers injected with the cells of Jenova. Which was Hojo's doing. Sephiroth had nothing to do with it.


That was Gast. Not Hojo

[TheJackofSpades]

After the Nibelheim events, five years prior to the beginning of the game, Hojo was left with very little: his son, his most amazing creation as a scientist, was gone and nowhere to be found, and he couldn’t get a hold on the remaining Ancients. Hojo decided to try and recreate Sephiroth by cloning him, using the bodies of the surviving people of Nibelheim. He once again infused humans with Jenova’s cells, under some Mako exposure. The results of this experiment was the black-caped men, that carried tattoos (even though he was part of the experiment, Cloud didn’t receive any tattoo, because he was, under Hojo’s own admission when he meets Cloud at the Northern Pole, “a failure”).


After the events of the Nibelheim Incident, Professor Hojo rounded up the survivors of Sephiroth's rampage. He injected them with Jenova cells and exposed them to Mako energy, similar, if not identical, to the creation of a SOLDIER. However, these people were not the finest in physical and mental fitness, thus they could not keep their own egos and became shades of Jenova. Since Jenova was a puppet of Sephiroth, the Clones, too, became fanatics who would do anything for their master Sephiroth. Those who turned into mindless slaves were engraved with a number someplace on their body, but those who failed and kept some shred of their ego were left to die.
Taken from two seperate wikis.

[Elizabeth]

We'll deal with the account names later.



I have a big question. Will there be a cult?


Yes, there will be a cult. However, the setup was designed so that the cult faction won't get out of control. They will have more counters than what we have seen previously.
Sounds good :)

[Velma]

After the Nibelheim events, five years prior to the beginning of the game, Hojo was left with very little: his son, his most amazing creation as a scientist, was gone and nowhere to be found, and he couldn’t get a hold on the remaining Ancients. Hojo decided to try and recreate Sephiroth by cloning him, using the bodies of the surviving people of Nibelheim. He once again infused humans with Jenova’s cells, under some Mako exposure. The results of this experiment was the black-caped men, that carried tattoos (even though he was part of the experiment, Cloud didn’t receive any tattoo, because he was, under Hojo’s own admission when he meets Cloud at the Northern Pole, “a failure”).


After the events of the Nibelheim Incident, Professor Hojo rounded up the survivors of Sephiroth's rampage. He injected them with Jenova cells and exposed them to Mako energy, similar, if not identical, to the creation of a SOLDIER. However, these people were not the finest in physical and mental fitness, thus they could not keep their own egos and became shades of Jenova. Since Jenova was a puppet of Sephiroth, the Clones, too, became fanatics who would do anything for their master Sephiroth. Those who turned into mindless slaves were engraved with a number someplace on their body, but those who failed and kept some shred of their ego were left to die.
Taken from two seperate wikis.


Where did he get this idea from? From Professor Gast's notes and research

[SimpleFigment]

True, but irrelevant to the initial point i do believe.

[TheJackofSpades]

After the Nibelheim events, five years prior to the beginning of the game, Hojo was left with very little: his son, his most amazing creation as a scientist, was gone and nowhere to be found, and he couldn’t get a hold on the remaining Ancients. Hojo decided to try and recreate Sephiroth by cloning him, using the bodies of the surviving people of Nibelheim. He once again infused humans with Jenova’s cells, under some Mako exposure. The results of this experiment was the black-caped men, that carried tattoos (even though he was part of the experiment, Cloud didn’t receive any tattoo, because he was, under Hojo’s own admission when he meets Cloud at the Northern Pole, “a failure”).


After the events of the Nibelheim Incident, Professor Hojo rounded up the survivors of Sephiroth's rampage. He injected them with Jenova cells and exposed them to Mako energy, similar, if not identical, to the creation of a SOLDIER. However, these people were not the finest in physical and mental fitness, thus they could not keep their own egos and became shades of Jenova. Since Jenova was a puppet of Sephiroth, the Clones, too, became fanatics who would do anything for their master Sephiroth. Those who turned into mindless slaves were engraved with a number someplace on their body, but those who failed and kept some shred of their ego were left to die.
Taken from two seperate wikis.


Where did he get this idea from? From Professor Gast's notes and research

Seriously? Do you just get off on arguing with me? Professor Gast never even considered testing on human subjects, in fact he fled from Shinra when Hojo began doing so. Yes, he originally came up with the idea of the Jenova Project, but the idea that Hojo was working directly from Gast's research is a point of view you share only with Sephiroth.

[SimpleFigment]

This discussion is straying from it's original, intended point.

*Bows out*

[FalseTruth]

Deathfire: I LIKE TO ARGUE A LOT, PROBLEM?
JackOfSpades: I LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE IDIOTS, PROBLEM?

[Crimson]

Is there any reqiurements to join?


You must not be one of these people or any of their alts: Narks, Caress, Crimson, Capitalier.


Man, I feel unappreciated!

I was waiting for FM6 to end so I could get in the action for FM7. I guess I am an outcast.

Oh well, even if I did get to play, I would get killed N1.

Off to cut myself.

[SimpleFigment]

I have been unable to find this anywhere, and i think i have seen people talk about it but it was in context so i wasn't too sure if it confirmed or denied it.

There is a certain person on here, who i may end up in this forum mafia game with, who refuses to get over something that happened in a game some time ago. [If you are reading this now, certain person, i have not listed you nor the offense so please don't take offense]

Because of this, i am curious to see if we are able to make new accounts for the sole purpose of no one knowing who you are in the game, so that there can be no griefing.

[Velma]

Deathfire: I LIKE TO ARGUE A LOT, PROBLEM?
JackOfSpades: I LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE IDIOTS, PROBLEM?


FalseTruth: I LIKE TO BE TOTALLY RIGHT AT EVERYTHING AND BE AWESOME WHILE DOING SO, PROBLEM?

[Dust]

@SimpleFigment



Summary:
Scenario: FF7 Revised
Anonymous: Yes
Setup type: Half-closed, pretty much like FM5. Some roles will be revealed to players, some others will be hidden.Player cap: 36, all people who signed up late will be set as reserve players.New roles featured:Ninja (http://www.thecouncilofmages.com/forum/index.php/topic,2664.0.html), Journalist (http://www.thecouncilofmages.com/forum/index.php/topic,2684.0.html). Serial Killer will be subject of several changes in its mechanics.

It helps us no-namers to get some credibility. It really does.

[Yayap]

Helps me stay alive too.

[SimpleFigment]

Is that why there are more /joins then actual players listed when they say anonymous? Or is that specifically pertaining to the game thread itself?

[Illidan]

S'not so. Fuck Advent Children anyway.

It was a good movie imho, but we'll not use it in the game.



why is this FM7 when it should be FM6?

Originally FM6 was meant to be hosted by Dark Revenant, while we was supposed to host FM7 (hence the FF7 theme).
Due to blizzcon starting shortly, rev can't host for a week or more so we are switching.
We'll maybe call this FM6 to not cause confusion.



Because of this, i am curious to see if we are able to make new accounts for the sole purpose of no one knowing who you are in the game, so that there can be no griefing.

Yes, the game will be anonymous. We will setup some accounts and give you the passwords.



Is that why there are more /joins then actual players listed when they say anonymous? Or is that specifically pertaining to the game thread itself?

Nope, Raiden will update the list as soon as he wakes up, I can't edit his post right now.

[SimpleFigment]

Illidan, in all the posts in all the forums in all the world, i think you just made the single most informative post I've ever seen.

Thank you :)

[Raiden]

Updated the original post with the base setup.

[Dust]

Will there be secondary objectives?

[Raiden]

Will there be secondary objectives?


Yes, every role (with the possible exception of citizen) will have a secondary objective. None of those will be in contrast with your win conditions, some will be just "use your ability successfully", which should not to be taken for granted for some roles.

[Spy]

When do we get to play? The only time I get to post is when I am in this café! Please start...

P.S. I need to reserve the 500 MB or so I have left at home for important stuff.

[philie]

game starts monday.... you might not wanna wait in the cafe...

[Spy]

game starts monday.... you might not wanna wait in the cafe...
I won't. No attractive people today :P

[Luna]

I assume you'll be providing plenty of background story and context aye? While little references and in-jokes will definitely be appreciated by those who love FF7, I'm in the situation where I *did* play FF7 but only when it first came out, and I can barely remember anything that happened (quite frankly all I remember is being on a train at the beginning, fighting a giant mechanical scorpion, and punching my friend in the face accidentally while celebrating the death of Sephiroth).

Actually I've been meaning to play it again at some point for years but I don't think I ever will, so if anyone knows of a good wiki or plot synopsis which is actually really detailed I'd love a link. In the meantime I'll stick to FF3 on my DS (and laugh hysterically whenever I pass FFXIII on my shelf).

[Velma]

I assume you'll be providing plenty of background story and context aye? While little references and in-jokes will definitely be appreciated by those who love FF7, I'm in the situation where I *did* play FF7 but only when it first came out, and I can barely remember anything that happened (quite frankly all I remember is being on a train at the beginning, fighting a giant mechanical scorpion, and punching my friend in the face accidentally while celebrating the death of Sephiroth).

Actually I've been meaning to play it again at some point for years but I don't think I ever will, so if anyone knows of a good wiki or plot synopsis which is actually really detailed I'd love a link. In the meantime I'll stick to FF3 on my DS (and laugh hysterically whenever I pass FFXIII on my shelf).


sad sad day, FF13 was good unlike FF3

[McJesus]

FF13 had addictive gameplay but I don't remember much of the plot other than it being confusing as fuck to follow

[Velma]

FF13 had addictive gameplay but I don't remember much of the plot other than it being confusing as fuck to follow


I thought it was pretty easy to understand, maybe you just forgot.

[Ambient]

O.o Simple Relax.

I thought we had a lovely game last night ;D

[SimpleFigment]

This was prior to that :P And believe it or not you aren't who I'm referring to <3

[Auckmid]

With 10 Citizens, I hope we don't have much of a problem with newb players raging because "They don't want to be Citizens". FM5 could have been worse, but still pretty bad as far as raging citizens :(

Good Citizens
Joshua
Elizabeth
Philip
Thelma
Roger

Bad Citizens
Timothy (4 sentences in 2 days)
Yolanda (2 posts in 3 days)
Thomas (Modkilled)
Mathew (9 posts in 5 days)

[Raiden]

Uh, yeah, regarding the citizens: i'd like to have some high quality material there. Be smart. Take notes. Contribute to the discussion. If you are too lazy to do that, at least try to save real power roles by appearing like one and go have fun in the dead chat. Or try to be masoned.

Lurking and posting once in a while without even reading the full thread will be severely frowned upon.

[Raiden]

Updated the original post with the possible hidden roles.

[Dust]

Seeing as how there is a confirmed journalist in the roles list and that the journalist is also in the possible randoms, is it possible for there to be multiple journalists? I ask because as said in the journalist thread, that its more like a citizen than a real power role.

[oops_ur_dead]

Can you put the common role name in brackets beside the RP role name in all places where it is written? It's annoying to have to constantly flip back and forth to see what each role is.

[NorthStar]

Update: NorthStar hosts FM6.

I don't do stuff when I'm cit, just sit there reading posts and not bothering to speak.

[Raiden]

Seeing as how there is a confirmed journalist in the roles list and that the journalist is also in the possible randoms, is it possible for there to be multiple journalists? I ask because as said in the journalist thread, that its more like a citizen than a real power role.


Ah, yes, i should have clarified this. I view the journalist as a power role, and it will be treated like that. It is possible to have multiple journalists if there is one among the hidden roles, or student/amnesiac decide to pick journalist as their target. Mason recruits on journalists will fail, just like every other town power role.

[Raiden]

Can you put the common role name in brackets beside the RP role name in all places where it is written? It's annoying to have to constantly flip back and forth to see what each role is.


Yes, that's how we planned it. Every RP name will have its original mafia name in brackets.

[Thelma]

With 10 Citizens, I hope we don't have much of a problem with newb players raging because "They don't want to be Citizens". FM5 could have been worse, but still pretty bad as far as raging citizens :(

Good Citizens
Joshua
Elizabeth
Philip
Thelma
Roger

Bad Citizens
Timothy (4 sentences in 2 days)
Yolanda (2 posts in 3 days)
Thomas (Modkilled)
Mathew (9 posts in 5 days)


Thank you!

[Deathfire123]

Well we have another "beast" per se, but slightly less massclaim worthy who goes by the name of Sephiroth

[Thelma]

Are there any rebels or other factions?

[Illidan]

Are there any rebels or other factions?

Nope. You can check the possible neutrals in the first post.

[Thelma]

ok.

:|

[SimpleFigment]

So i did a search on the term 'lurking' and came up with too many posts to sift through so i hope I don't get scolded for asking this but...

What exactly is lurking?

[Luna]

So i did a search on the term 'lurking' and came up with too many posts to sift through so i hope I don't get scolded for asking this but...

What exactly is lurking?


I don't think he's referring to Mafia Jargon, just using it in the normal context - just hanging around, loitering

[Thelma]

If your mafia talk, its looking, but not posting on the FM

[Dust]

I think we should have a set definition of lurking before we start playing so that people won't lawyer up and argue about it.

[SimpleFigment]

I think we should have a set definition of lurking before we start playing so that people won't lawyer up and argue about it.


I agree ^.^ I don't think i still completely understand what the definition is.

[fred]

In the context of forum mafia:

If you don't post in a day, or post so little in terms of contribution (i.e. you just say hello or something entirely random and unhelpful) you are in fact lurking. If you do not contribute to the day chat, I classify that as lurking. If you post even one credible statement you should not be classified as a lurker. How much someone posts is entirely up to them.

[SimpleFigment]

Ah i see, ok ok....

One last question :D Um... will there be jesters? lol.

[Muso]

Ah i see, ok ok....

One last question :D Um... will there be jesters? lol.


The role-list is on page 1 of this thread.

You can see 2 benign neutrals which may or may not be jesters.

[Dust]

Another question: What flavor of veteran? Grandma style or SC2 style?


I have a feeling that this will be revealed when all the role options are shown. If that is the case, then don't even bother replying as I could just check this thread after the options are up.

[Jimmy1]

At least the first time through, the 'One Winged Angel' music is even better than pretty much all Zelda music (one of only 3 gaming songs/themes I've ever been able to say that about): I sincerely want to be the SK for nostalgia's sake...

[Illidan]

Another question: What flavor of veteran? Grandma style or SC2 style?

SC2 style with limited alerts.

[SimpleFigment]

*Crosses fingers to be apart of the Cetra* C'moooooon ancient race of humans who really aren't humans but predecessors to humans who are attuned depely to spirituality through nature! C'moooooon Cetra!

[FalseTruth]

Anything but a sheriff plox. kthxbai.

[Deathfire123]

ive been town every time, would like some variety plox.

[Illidan]

You should ask random.org

[Elixir]

shotgun Chocobo trainer







bus driver maybe? ;/

[Luna]

I wonder what kind of names we'll have?

I'm guessing we might have a 'Cloud'... maybe a 'Storm'... maybe 'Lightning'...

Can I have 'Mildly bad dew'?

[Dust]

I just have too many questions that don't come all at once. Will the "one-winged angel" be able to use the double kill multiple times if the game goes on that long? If so, will the two kills count for the next double kill?

I'm pretty sure the answers are in this order: Yes then No


Edit: I got another two questions. If a journalist asks for an article from a player who is jailed, will the inquiry go through? (I'm asking if the jailer's complete roleblock is fullly complete)


Will this be like in FM5 when if a player falsely claims a COM identity, will you intervene? (this was one of Elixir's rules afaik)

[Illidan]

I just have too many questions that don't come all at once. Will the "one-winged angel" be able to use the double kill multiple times if the game goes on that long? If so, will the two kills count for the next double kill?

I'm pretty sure the answers are in this order: Yes then No

You're correct. After using the Black Materia's powers, Sephiroth will have to recharge it with standard kills. As soon as he reach 4, he will be able to use the Black Materia again. This process may be repeated limitless times.



Edit: I got another two questions. If a journalist asks for an article from a player who is jailed, will the inquiry go through? (I'm asking if the jailer's complete roleblock is fullly complete)

He will be able to answer even when jailed.



Will this be like in FM5 when if a player falsely claims a COM identity, will you intervene? (this was one of Elixir's rules afaik)

As with the previous FM, we will intervene only if you false claim in NIGHT chats. You are free to claim whatever you want in day chats.

[Raiden]

Final word about names and identities:

We will use 36 new accounts and 36 new randomly generated names.
Players will be able to choose whether to reveal their COM identity or not. If you choose to reveal:

Doing this at day causes no harm. You can lie freely.
Doing this at night requires you to tell the truth. You can NOT lie about your identity at night. If we find you lying at night, we will step in and reveal you. Jail chat (if present) is an exception to this rule.

Changing your name, for any reason, is forbidden.
You will not be able to use your original COM account to play the game. Sorry about this, but we don't want any confirmed identity during the day.

[Ubernox]

Hey Guys!

Love this game you've got here, makes me feel nostalgic ;)

Well, I'm not exactly an experienced player, as I've only played the game a couple of times. Whenever I was in an important role, people were getting mad because I didn't know the commands.

So, my question is: Where can I find a list of the total commands?

[philie]

also i hope everyone learned the lesson when i claimed yvette and got inca killas role in pm. If you really have to pm something send it to the ingame account but rather try avoid pming at all and claiming to be someone else for that causes trouble every single time someone does that.

[Illidan]

Hey Guys!

Love this game you've got here, makes me feel nostalgic ;)

Well, I'm not exactly an experienced player, as I've only played the game a couple of times. Whenever I was in an important role, people were getting mad because I didn't know the commands.

So, my question is: Where can I find a list of the total commands?

This thread is about an upcoming game of forum mafia, you should create an account and post your questions in the Mafia General forum.



also i hope everyone learned the lesson when i claimed yvette and got inca killas role in pm. If you really have to pm something send it to the ingame account but rather try avoid pming at all and claiming to be someone else for that causes trouble every single time someone does that.

To clarify for the new people, PMs are not allowed.

[FalseTruth]

Is there going to be any attempt to balance the two mafias because the Red Mafia looks significantly stronger than the Orange atm.

[J]

Where can I sign up? I'd really like to play ;)


Edit: Scratch that, I worked it out - It was rather more simple than I'd expected :p

[Dust]

-Does the journalist visit his target? I ask because the journalist has a target before the night starts.
-If the journalist dies at night, will the article still be posted?
-Does Yuffie (ninja) kill a recruiting mason if he has a killing role's power or is he even benign?
-Can we yell at Elixir if he doesn't end FM5 before FM7(?) starts?

[Elixir]

Sure.

Because it's not possible, I have to reset the forum for them.

[Thelma]

Is there going to be any attempt to balance the two mafias because the Red Mafia looks significantly stronger than the Orange atm.


Quote for ditto question.

Theres GOTTA be a killing role in the orange Maf.

Gotta.

[Auckmid]

It says in the opening comment that some roles may or may not have special names. If they do have special names, it's a big advantage to Town, finding there PR's while also finding the liars. To counter this, I would like to suggest that the Mafia's know the special names of certain roles, giving them the opportunity to claim a role other then citizen or neutral, while not immediately getting caught.

[Deathfire123]

It says in the opening comment that some roles may or may not have special names. If they do have special names, it's a big advantage to Town, finding there PR's while also finding the liars. To counter this, I would like to suggest that the Mafia's know the special names of certain roles, giving them the opportunity to claim a role other then citizen or neutral, while not immediately getting caught.


You could always guess.
IE: "I'm Gunsmith, it's known as Death Materia Trader

[Muso]

It says in the opening comment that some roles may or may not have special names. If they do have special names, it's a big advantage to Town, finding there PR's while also finding the liars. To counter this, I would like to suggest that the Mafia's know the special names of certain roles, giving them the opportunity to claim a role other then citizen or neutral, while not immediately getting caught.


You could always guess.
IE: "I'm Gunsmith, it's known as Death Materia Trader


uhhh what about if you've never played FF

[Elixir]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Wiki

Have fun.

[jaczac]

Im gonna be reading for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time....

[Deathfire123]

It says in the opening comment that some roles may or may not have special names. If they do have special names, it's a big advantage to Town, finding there PR's while also finding the liars. To counter this, I would like to suggest that the Mafia's know the special names of certain roles, giving them the opportunity to claim a role other then citizen or neutral, while not immediately getting caught.


You could always guess.
IE: "I'm Gunsmith, it's known as Death Materia Trader


uhhh what about if you've never played FF


A: Guess
B: PLAY FF
C: Research

I suggest B

[Luna]

Playing FF won't solve all issues :P It's all up to interpretation - if the Bus Driver got renamed to Chocobo Breeder, even if I was aware that it's name had changed how would I guess that? I might think 'Chocobo Trainer' or even 'Train Conductor'.

If special names are given then they definitely need to be declared along with the role they represent, even for the roles that can only possibly come up as randoms (we understand that giving a special name and flavour to a role doesn't automatically mean you've included one in the game xD).

[AscendedOne]

Is there going to be any attempt to balance the two mafias because the Red Mafia looks significantly stronger than the Orange atm.



Orange mafia seems to have significantly less power then red because they have no invurerable people. Perhaps a random orange mafia member should have a 1 time auto vest? Or a global one for the entire mafia for a single night time kill.

Heres my suggestion I made on joshua to balance mafias without GF's on each side.

[philie]

can also be balanced by 1 less power role

[SimpleFigment]

Playing FF won't solve all issues :P It's all up to interpretation - if the Bus Driver got renamed to Chocobo Breeder, even if I was aware that it's name had changed how would I guess that? I might think 'Chocobo Trainer' or even 'Train Conductor'.


I completely agree, FF7 is my favorite RPG, i know the ins and outs and the materia system etc etc, but I don't see how death materia trader is to imply armor trader, so I know to some extent, i might have some confusion of my own.

[Auckmid]

It says in the opening comment that some roles may or may not have special names. If they do have special names, it's a big advantage to Town, finding there PR's while also finding the liars. To counter this, I would like to suggest that the Mafia's know the special names of certain roles, giving them the opportunity to claim a role other then citizen or neutral, while not immediately getting caught.


You could always guess.
IE: "I'm Gunsmith, it's known as Death Materia Trader
What if a second docter gets you lynched because he know the role name, and you don't and get it wrong?

[Luna]

The most important question of all; will there be any cameo appearances from Firefly characters?

I think Badger would make an excellent GF. Businessman, see, roots in the community.

[SimpleFigment]

The most important question of all; will there be any cameo appearances from Firefly characters?

I think Badger would make an excellent GF. Businessman, see, roots in the community.


Y U TRY AND RUIN ff7 THEME? >.<

[Luna]

BECAUSE CLOUD IS AS STUPID A NAME AS RIVER, PARENTS NAME YOUR CHILDREN RESPONSIBLY.

AND FIREFLY DOESN'T RUIN ANYTHING.

AND I WAS JOKING.










Bt srsly Jayne as vet omgwtfbbqlol, Gunsmith gief Vera

[SimpleFigment]

Synonyms: Cloud
darken - obscure - overcast

That's why he's named cloud, after his personality :D, since he is the anti-hero archetype.

[Luna]

I'm just artfully trolling because it's almost 4am here and I was expecting this FM to start Sunday Evening EU time-ish.

In my game I refused to call him Cloud, synonyms as names suck. It's why I never bought into Snow White and the Seven Dwarves as a child. I think the eighth Dwarf was called Kyle and they exiled him because of it.

[SimpleFigment]

Lol...

synonyms suck.

[Ambient]

Future Firefly FM theme ftw

[Deathfire123]

Do a Doctor Who FM theme

[Raiden]

Is there going to be any attempt to balance the two mafias because the Red Mafia looks significantly stronger than the Orange atm.


We find the two mafias to be balanced. They have different assets that summed up should be almost equally powerful.

[Raiden]

-Does the journalist visit his target? I ask because the journalist has a target before the night starts.
-If the journalist dies at night, will the article still be posted?
-Does Yuffie (ninja) kill a recruiting mason if he has a killing role's power or is he even benign?
-Can we yell at Elixir if he doesn't end FM5 before FM7(?) starts?


- Journalist sends his action at day, then he visits the target at the very beginning of the night. Witching and driving the journalist have no effect. Roleblocking, Jailing and Killing the journalist will prevent the interview from being published.

- Yuffie does not kill masons, she's a good lass after all.

- Nope, Elixir bites. We won't start our FM before he's done with his. Also yes this is officially FM7, although it comes before 6.

[Raiden]

It says in the opening comment that some roles may or may not have special names. If they do have special names, it's a big advantage to Town, finding there PR's while also finding the liars. To counter this, I would like to suggest that the Mafia's know the special names of certain roles, giving them the opportunity to claim a role other then citizen or neutral, while not immediately getting caught.


Revealing RP names is forbidden, as they are part of a mod PM. Implicitly, quoting mod PMs is forbidden. We will post a full set of rules as soon as the game starts.

We will also post all possible role cards without their rp names, unless they are already revealed in the base setup.

Note: all the rp names are UNIQUE. There are no two Aeris, even if there may be two doctors.

[Raiden]

Updated the original thread with role options.

Note: these are the only things that does not appear on role cards. For example, doctor's heal will also automatically prevent cult recruiting. This is not written in this thread because it is already in the doctor's role card.

[Illidan]

The game is officially starting tomorrow evening EU time, at 9 PM CEST. Click on this link to see it in your timezone: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+18%2C+9+pm+CEST

[Auckmid]

The game is officially starting tomorrow evening EU time, at 9 PM CEST. Click on this link to see it in your timezone: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+18%2C+9+pm+CEST
Will we get are role PM's in the next 24 hours?

[Illidan]

The game is officially starting tomorrow evening EU time, at 9 PM CEST. Click on this link to see it in your timezone: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+18%2C+9+pm+CEST
Will we get are role PM's in the next 24 hours?

We will probably start sending them from 7-8 PM CEST tomorrow.

[Raiden]

Can the Godfather (when he knows his team member is culted)

go

-Kill (Team Member`s Name)

if so, can he do

-Kill (Team Member's Name)
-Send(Team Member who is getting killed)


All mafia can decide to use any action, including killing, on their own members if they so wish. As this would be a very stupid move under normal circumstances, misuse and abuse of it will be considered griefing and will get you removed from the game.

The GF cannot, however, send a teammate to kill himself. He can either: 1. send GF to kill culted teammate or 2. send different teammate to kill culted teammate.

Should it happen that there are a mafioso and let's say a consigliere, one of which is culted, and they decide to kill each other, the role having Kill as primary command will be favored. If neither of the two has killing as a primary ability, random.org will decide what happens.

[AscendedOne]

What are the grave robber and coroner options? Same as elixirs? Do you plan on balancing orange/red mafias based on role options/mechanics, or just what roles they get? Are consorts/escorts immune to roleblocks? Whats the order of actions?

Ability use counts? Possible drug affects? Jester sucide type, random guility, hammer vote, influence on neutrals....? Will survivor get a different set of abilities like the soul of beast in the last forum mafia, or just the standard vests? Or nothing at all?

Do you plan do to any extra stuff in this forum mafia like secondary goals in the last? I sincerely think consig is quite lacking in large mafia setups such as forum mafia, do you plan to give him extra utility by allowing him to use any investigation type, or something?

[philie]

HOLD YOUR HORSES

wait for rolecards. how come i never ask questions and am almost always right

[Raiden]

What are the grave robber and coroner options? Same as elixirs? Do you plan on balancing orange/red mafias based on role options/mechanics, or just what roles they get? Are consorts/escorts immune to roleblocks? Whats the order of actions?

Ability use counts? Possible drug affects? Jester sucide type, random guility, hammer vote, influence on neutrals....? Will survivor get a different set of abilities like the soul of beast in the last forum mafia, or just the standard vests? Or nothing at all?

Do you plan do to any extra stuff in this forum mafia like secondary goals in the last? I sincerely think consig is quite lacking in large mafia setups such as forum mafia, do you plan to give him extra utility by allowing him to use any investigation type, or something?


Grave Robber will be able to steal up to 4 corpses, which will grant a one use ability depending on their role. He will be able to use that ability during any of the following nights, but he won't be able to steal and use an ability at the same time. Coroner and Grave Robber targeting the same corpse will result in the Grave Robber being blocked. Both roles will be informed of this outcome.

Escorts and Consorts will not be immune to roleblocks.

The order of actions will be posted tomorrow, shortly before the start of the game.

Survivor will not get a different ability set.

We will feature secondary objectives.

Consigliere is a very powerful asset, you will have to trust me on that. Read through FM2 for more info.

All of your questions about other roles will be answered inside their respective role cards.

[AscendedOne]

Can graverobber store multi-abilities at a time?

[Spy]

The game is officially starting tomorrow evening EU time, at 9 PM CEST. Click on this link to see it in your timezone: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=October+18%2C+9+pm+CEST

Ok, perfect time for me to spam. I mean, play the game.

[jaczac]

When will we get our RCs?

[Raiden]

Can graverobber store multi-abilities at a time?


You can store all four if you so wish. You can have four of the same ability, or four different abilities. There are some roles that won't give you an ability, which basically are the same the ninja can't steal from.

[Deathfire123]

Can graverobber store multi-abilities at a time?


You can store all four if you so wish. You can have four of the same ability, or four different abilities. There are some roles that won't give you an ability, which basically are the same the ninja can't steal from.


Do you get 4 SUCCESSFUL steals? Or just 4 uses, successful or not

[Raiden]

Can graverobber store multi-abilities at a time?


You can store all four if you so wish. You can have four of the same ability, or four different abilities. There are some roles that won't give you an ability, which basically are the same the ninja can't steal from.


Do you get 4 SUCCESSFUL steals? Or just 4 uses, successful or not


Successful steals. If you are blocked by a coroner, you won't use up your steal attempt.

[Deathfire123]

Can graverobber store multi-abilities at a time?


You can store all four if you so wish. You can have four of the same ability, or four different abilities. There are some roles that won't give you an ability, which basically are the same the ninja can't steal from.


Do you get 4 SUCCESSFUL steals? Or just 4 uses, successful or not


Successful steals. If you are blocked by a coroner, you won't use up your steal attempt.


I mean if you rob a cit do not get blocked, but get nothing, does that use up a steal?

[Dust]

I'm just curious. If the executioner's target dies at night, why does the executioner suicide instead of becoming a jester?

[Elixir]

LETS

ALL

COUNTDOWN

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&year=2011&month=10&day=18&hour=9pm&min=0&sec=0&p0=281

[monster]

give me a citizen and not a stupid girl's name (normal girl's name is acceptable)
*fingers crossed*

[Raiden]

Can graverobber store multi-abilities at a time?


You can store all four if you so wish. You can have four of the same ability, or four different abilities. There are some roles that won't give you an ability, which basically are the same the ninja can't steal from.


Do you get 4 SUCCESSFUL steals? Or just 4 uses, successful or not


Successful steals. If you are blocked by a coroner, you won't use up your steal attempt.


I mean if you rob a cit do not get blocked, but get nothing, does that use up a steal?


No it doesn't. It will use up a steal only if you get an ability.

[Raiden]

I'm just curious. If the executioner's target dies at night, why does the executioner suicide instead of becoming a jester?


usually RP reasons.

[Ash]

Woot few more hours left.

[monster]

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

sup

[Luna]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww wwww










yeah

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

Forgot to ask

and read

How powerful is cult this time around?

[Illidan]

Role cards are going out in about one hour from now.

Roles will start to go out in about two hours from now.

Game starts in about four hours from now.

Closing the thread, good luck everyone.