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Espozito
December 26th, 2013, 10:45 AM
Survival Quest #4
Crime City



Hey ho, mates, I'm presenting you a new part of Survival Quest games by Espozito Production wich is a whole brand new game that I've made up this summer. It's basically the OPPOSITE Mafia.

The point? There are Killers and Cops who fight each other plus neutral Citizens and Drug Dealers who may choose their sides or stay without it. But there's a huge difference: all roles are revealed but you must FIND your target aswell.

This was created to be more like real life when the killer's identity is known and he's in Wanted list but you don't know where he hides.

Interested? Then read the rules and sign!



Rules


Players randomly get roles and those roles are revealed.
The game is devided to turns.
Before each turn everyone gets a number in private.
During the turn you have 24 hours to choose a number from existing ones and send me it in PM.
When the turn ends, all actions are revealed so as their results.




Roles

Cop

Targeted number owner will be imprisoned
Imprisoned person doesn't get a number and can't make his action during next turn
Imprisoned Killer loses the game and leaves it
Goal: Jail all Killers


Killer

Targeted number owner will die
Goal: Kill all Cops


Citizen

Targeted number owner gains extra-action for the next turn
During the next turn targeted number owner can choose to perform an action twice (chooses 2 numbers)
If a player doesn't use extra-action, he won't be able to use it during the next turns (unless a Citizen visits him again)
Goal: Survive with Killers or with Cops considering a condition
Condition: If Killers win, must be at least one Drug Dealer alive


Drug Dealer

Targeted number owner gains a hideout
Hideouted player gains immunity against any action provided by another player this turn
Goal: Survive with Killers or with Cops considering a condition
Condition: If Cops win, must be at least one Citizen alive




Order of Operations:

1. Drug Dealer hides
2. Killer kills
3. Cop imprisons
4. Citizen gives extra-action



Rules of Conduct


Discussion is allowed
PMing with each other isn't allowed
Discussion outside of the game thread isn't allowed
Invisible text is not allowed
Images, spoilers, links, videos are not allowed
Questions are in green, skip funtion is in yellow



Game may start as soon as there are enough people BUT only in 2014.



ATTENTION! Possibly a co-host will be required from the 6th of January (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=6th+of+January+2014+MSK)



Players


NoctiZ
RLVG
Citrus
powerofdeath
Hypersniper
Numbertwo
Brendan
Nick
...


Co-host:


ika




Questions

NoctiZ
December 26th, 2013, 10:48 AM
Sounds fun.

/sign

RLVG
December 26th, 2013, 10:55 AM
/sign

Though if you need a co-host, I wouldn't mind.

Citrus
December 26th, 2013, 11:01 AM
/sign!

powerofdeath
December 26th, 2013, 11:14 AM
/sign

I can always cohost if you want me to.

Hypersniper
December 26th, 2013, 11:19 AM
/sign

Numbertwo
December 26th, 2013, 11:44 AM
/sign

Brendan
December 26th, 2013, 02:03 PM
/sign

ika
December 26th, 2013, 07:42 PM
/dibs on co-host

Espozito
December 26th, 2013, 08:36 PM
1. The number of players is unlimited for now, everyone may join.
2. Co-host will be chosen randomly from candidates once the game begins. Thank you for volunteering!
3. Changed from "jail" to "prison" terminology.

ika
December 26th, 2013, 10:39 PM
1. The number of players is unlimited for now, everyone may join.
2. Co-host will be chosen randomly from candidates once the game begins. Thank you for volunteering!
3. Changed from "jail" to "prison" terminology.

im only in for co-host, i dont plan on playing jsyk, i had a good run with playing but would rather observe or help, if i am not chosen for co-host i would like to observe

powerofdeath
December 26th, 2013, 10:41 PM
1. The number of players is unlimited for now, everyone may join.
2. Co-host will be chosen randomly from candidates once the game begins. Thank you for volunteering!
3. Changed from "jail" to "prison" terminology.

I would like to know if I was a cohost before the game begin. I would cohost if you really need one, but select other players if they really want to cohost this.

Random.orging the co-host seems sketchy a little bit.

Espozito
December 27th, 2013, 05:31 AM
I would like to know if I was a cohost before the game begin. I would cohost if you really need one, but select other players if they really want to cohost this.

Random.orging the co-host seems sketchy a little bit.

Ok, you are right. Then I assume the co-host will be ika.

Espozito
December 31st, 2013, 04:30 AM
We have 7 players for now and the game will most likely begin on the 8th of January. Thank you everyone who is going to participate. The sign-up window is still opened so feel free to join.

Espozito
January 8th, 2014, 02:49 AM
Alright, mates, I'm back and the Survival Quest #4 will start at this time (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=8+January+2014+MSK+8+pm).
Make sure you are still signed and please inform me if you decided to leave the game.

Nick
January 8th, 2014, 04:30 AM
/sign

Only here to kill people.

Espozito
January 8th, 2014, 09:33 AM
Let the Crime City begin!



Roles:


NoctiZ - Citizen
RLVG - Drug Dealer
Citrus - Killer
powerofdeath - Cop
Hypersniper - Citizen
Numbertwo - Killer
Brendan - Drug Dealer
Nick - Cop




So, what are you exactly doing right now?

Each of you has a secret number.
You must guess the number of your target (if you want to use your ability exactly on this person) and send me the number that you are targeting in PM during this turn.
You may discuss, speak, tell your number or lie about your number.
Read the first post to know your abilities and goals.




This turn ends in 24 hours.

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 09:35 AM
You want some Meth? Crack? Pringles?

ika
January 8th, 2014, 09:37 AM
PMS have been sent, have fun.

I'm hiding under the non-existant 9

NoctiZ
January 8th, 2014, 09:39 AM
Ah, thanks again for the explanation. Sounds fun!

Now let's go.

powerofdeath
January 8th, 2014, 09:40 AM
What are the secret numbers ranged? 1-8? 1-100? 1-100000?

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 09:41 AM
Is there a limit of numbers? 1337 would be rather vague.
I like it though.

ika
January 8th, 2014, 09:42 AM
What are the secret numbers ranged? 1-8? 1-100? 1-100000?

[10:42:12 AM] ika: lol whats the number limit?
[10:42:30 AM] Espozito: The number of players

let the WIFOM games begin

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 09:55 AM
[10:42:12 AM] ika: lol whats the number limit?
[10:42:30 AM] Espozito: The number of players

let the WIFOM games begin

Fuck 1 because why not.
I'm gonna drown 1 with pringles. More pringles. Twice as much. Quad as much. Spiced with meth.

Numbertwo
January 8th, 2014, 09:59 AM
i claim citizen

Numbertwo
January 8th, 2014, 10:07 AM
Do i have to guess the players number together with the player that has that number to hit that player?

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 10:15 AM
(Player Number) / (Amount of Roles) + (Player's Position) / 2.

/word

ika
January 8th, 2014, 10:15 AM
Do i have to guess the players number together with the player that has that number to hit that player?

[11:14:12 AM] Espozito: Whatever number you choose, your ability will be used on the person who is hiding under this number.

Citrus
January 8th, 2014, 10:17 AM
What happens if a Killer attacks a Killer? Wouldn't want to kill a claimed citizen now would I heheh

ika
January 8th, 2014, 10:28 AM
What happens if a Killer attacks a Killer? Wouldn't want to kill a claimed citizen now would I heheh

[11:28:16 AM] Espozito: Killer can kill a killer, Cop can prison a cop. That's why people should use cooperation and should be careful about their secret number wifoming

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 10:52 AM
NoctiZ - Citizen
RLVG - Drug Dealer
Citrus - Killer
powerofdeath - Cop
Hypersniper - Citizen
Numbertwo - Killer
Brendan - Drug Dealer
Nick - Cop

...



Brendan - Drug Dealer
RLVG - Drug Dealer
powerofdeath - Cop
Nick - Cop
Hypersniper - Citizen
NoctiZ - Citizen
Numbertwo - Killer
Citrus - Killer

1. Cops must kill Killers.
2. Drug Dealers win with Killers, or must have one Citizen together with Cop.
3. Citizen win with Cops, or must have one Drug Dealer together with Killer.

What prevent the Citizen and the Drug Dealers claiming to become left alone while the Cop and Killers fight for us?

Numbertwo
January 8th, 2014, 10:58 AM
what happends if a cop and a killer targets eachother? do they both die?

Espozito
January 8th, 2014, 11:01 AM
What prevent the Citizen and the Drug Dealers claiming to become left alone while the Cop and Killers fight for us?

Killer/Cop risks to hit his partner while he actually knows where neutral roles (DD and Cit) hide.


what happends if a cop and a killer targets eachother? do they both die?

Killer will kill Cop first because of OoO.

Numbertwo
January 8th, 2014, 11:07 AM
but if all the neutrals reveal then all the killers could reveal their position aswell. then me and citrus will know which 2 are the cops and then we can kill them

Citrus
January 8th, 2014, 11:11 AM
but if all the neutrals reveal then all the killers could reveal their position aswell. then me and citrus will know which 2 are the cops and then we can kill them

Ooh this it can be gamed!

Citizens and Drug Dealers reveal their numbers.
Killers reveal numbers.
Killers coordinate strikes on Cops.
Killers beat Cops in OoO. Killers + Citizens + Drug Dealers win.

ika
January 8th, 2014, 11:18 AM
Ooh this it can be gamed!

Citizens and Drug Dealers reveal their numbers.
Killers reveal numbers.
Killers coordinate strikes on Cops.
Killers beat Cops in OoO. Killers + Citizens + Drug Dealers win.

im msgin esp on how to fix this, my suggestion is to do a reroll of hiding places but add in 4 extra places that are blank. i will wait on him thoguh. i would like to see this go but not be broken so fast.....

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 11:24 AM
im msgin esp on how to fix this, my suggestion is to do a reroll of hiding places but add in 4 extra places that are blank. i will wait on him thoguh. i would like to see this go but not be broken so fast.....

Lol I broke it too fast.

Make it 20 numbers in total.

ika
January 8th, 2014, 11:29 AM
i have rerandomed it with 15 places, 20 seems too much.

i will be sending out locations again to everyone, everyone should have same role unless esp says otherwise

Espozito
January 8th, 2014, 11:31 AM
Alright, I see the problem now. Funny thing is that the original idea had something like empty numbers at first but I declined that then.

There'll be 15 numbers total. New numbers are being sent right now.
But also remember that when blank number dies from killer, the amount of numbers is reduced.

ika
January 8th, 2014, 11:38 AM
everyone should have locations updated.

i also have put random objects in the blank ones, they will be known in feedbacks but will have no impact overall.

Citrus
January 8th, 2014, 11:56 AM
</3

powerofdeath
January 8th, 2014, 12:11 PM
Thank god! I told the host that it was unfair that numbertwo was the killer and I was in location number two.

Numbertwo
January 8th, 2014, 12:18 PM
Thank god! I told the host that it was unfair that numbertwo was the killer and I was in location number two.

or maybe you are in location #2 now and this is just wifom.

Numbertwo
January 8th, 2014, 12:20 PM
i have a idea. Citrus suggest 2 targets for me and i suggest 2 targets for citrus. that way we wont risk hitting eachother and if 1 of the targets is you then you just pick the other one.

powerofdeath
January 8th, 2014, 12:32 PM
or maybe you are in location #2 now and this is just wifom.

wifom

NoctiZ
January 8th, 2014, 01:37 PM
I told the host it was unfair that I'm in location 666 even though I don't believe in Satan.

Hypersniper
January 8th, 2014, 01:52 PM
Awwww I liked location 7 I bought a new house there with a bunch of stims for people I have to move now

Nick
January 8th, 2014, 10:00 PM
Killers are evil. They will want to kill all Citizens so that Drug Dealers have no choice but to side with Killers. But no fear. Cops will stop Killers from performing these evil deed by putting them behind bars. Permanently.

Nick
January 8th, 2014, 10:04 PM
Am I mistaken or Drug Dealers pretty much have confirmed win?

Killers won't kill Drug Dealers.
Drug Dealers can perma-hideout Citizens.
Citizens cannot kill.
Cops cannot kill.

Nick
January 8th, 2014, 10:16 PM
Any feedback messages for these?
1) being jailed
2) given extra actions
3) given hideout

Espozito
January 8th, 2014, 11:53 PM
Any feedback messages for these?
1) being jailed
2) given extra actions
3) given hideout

If you get a hideout, you will know if someone else visited you (such as "A Killer tried to attack you")
If you get in prison, you won't.
In other cases you get all the feedback before the next turn starts.

RLVG
January 8th, 2014, 11:57 PM
As part of WIFOM.

-Same Number As Before

Nick
January 9th, 2014, 12:01 AM
May I suggest that Drug Dealers and Citizens reveal their numbers and organize their actions?

Citizen A empower Drug Dealer A
Citizen B empower Drug Dealer B
Drug Dealer A hideout Citizen A and Drug Dealer B
Drug Dealer B hideout Citizen B and Drug Dealer A

Guaranteed win!

powerofdeath lets organize our actions afterwards.

Citrus
January 9th, 2014, 12:53 AM
Sounds good Number Two! 6 or 10?

Numbertwo
January 9th, 2014, 05:02 AM
Citrus #2 or #4

Espozito
January 9th, 2014, 09:15 AM
Time for the Next Turn and I'm really disappointed that so many players are not in game actually. I've recieved only 4 PMs.



powerofdeath has been given a hideout.
Nick has been killed.
A random trash has been put in prison by mistake (blank card).

There are 7 players and 13 numbers total. Numbers have been shuffled.

NoctiZ
January 9th, 2014, 09:26 AM
Nigga I totally forgot the time yo
listenin to yeezus I'm spittin dem bars
dis ain't a rap though

I'm not a rapper

powerofdeath
January 9th, 2014, 09:35 AM
Well shit, I arrested a happy meal bag with half eaten hamburger in it...
Man down! Man down!

Citrus
January 9th, 2014, 09:35 AM
2.you?

RLVG
January 9th, 2014, 09:37 AM
Looks like POD is 5.

Citrus
January 9th, 2014, 09:38 AM
Looks like POD is 5.

2 or 5?

NoctiZ
January 9th, 2014, 09:40 AM
I'm 7. Don't kill me pls. I'm just a citizen. I can help anyone. °,....,°

Numbertwo
January 9th, 2014, 10:06 AM
I was on number 14 last round and i targeted number 6.

Citrus
January 9th, 2014, 10:22 AM
I was on number 14 last round and i targeted number 6.

Oh I see what you mean now.

I need to check , as I have no idea which number I went to last night

Hypersniper
January 9th, 2014, 03:09 PM
I'm number 12 poor cit dontnkill me pls

Numbertwo
January 9th, 2014, 04:35 PM
Is pod going to be in the hideout this turn aswell? or does it work like a doctors healing?

Espozito
January 10th, 2014, 12:25 AM
Is pod going to be in the hideout this turn aswell? or does it work like a doctors healing?

It works like giving immunity against any other ability used on the target. This turn pod doesn't have a hideout.

Espozito
January 10th, 2014, 01:10 AM
Brendan has quit the Survival Quest. He was hiding under number 2 so don't pick that number.

ika
January 10th, 2014, 01:26 AM
Brendan has quit the Survival Quest. He was hiding under number 2 so don't pick that number.

*ika proceeds to hide under number 2*

RLVG
January 10th, 2014, 06:15 AM
*ika proceeds to hide under number 2*

Let's have a party at 2 o'clock.

Espozito
January 10th, 2014, 09:28 AM
Turn results:

A tree has been killed.
powerofdeath has been given a hideout.
Numbertwo has been given extra-action for this turn. He can pick 2 numbers.
A pair of boots has been imprisoned.
Some trash has been freed from prison.

Players: 6. Total numbers: 1-12.

Numbers have been shuffled!

NoctiZ
January 10th, 2014, 09:34 AM
I'm 12 nao, pls dun kill >:(

ika
January 10th, 2014, 10:17 AM
damn it, when i come on the turn is over, i need to know when to set my alarm for feedbacks

powerofdeath
January 10th, 2014, 12:43 PM
Wow... why did you have to kill an innocent tree! I am not that cruel, even I let piece of trash go out alive. Tree hater!

powerofdeath
January 10th, 2014, 12:44 PM
These brand new boots in the mall are suspicious... I am taking it to make sure things are "safe"

Numbertwo
January 10th, 2014, 02:25 PM
Stop giving pod a hideout, the drug dealers are supposed to hate the cops.

Citrus please target 1 or 2 this turn.

powerofdeath
January 10th, 2014, 02:47 PM
Stop giving pod a hideout, the drug dealers are supposed to hate the cops.

Citrus please target 1 or 2 this turn.

Dont!

RLVG
January 10th, 2014, 02:49 PM
Dont!

Moar hideouts for you. /target 12

Espozito
January 11th, 2014, 09:19 AM
Turn results:

Citrus has been killed.
powerofdeath has been given an extra-action for this turn.
A pair of boots has been released from prison.
A potato has been imprisoned.
A truck has been killed.
A lamp has been hided.
A Lady Gaga poster has been killed.

Players alive: 5
Total numbers: 1-8

Numbertwo
January 11th, 2014, 09:21 AM
thank you citrus for telling me what numbers to attack...

RLVG
January 11th, 2014, 09:24 AM
One killer left?

Gee, this is the shortest SQ.

NoctiZ
January 11th, 2014, 09:31 AM
I'm 8! No target me plx

powerofdeath
January 11th, 2014, 10:33 AM
Lol

Hypersniper
January 11th, 2014, 04:15 PM
I'm 4 IMA target 1

Espozito
January 12th, 2014, 09:22 AM
Turn results:

A bar table has been hided.
RLVG has been killed.
A potato has been released from prison.
A lamp has been imprisoned.
A church icon has been imprisoned.

Attention! While all Drug Dealers are dead, Citizens can't win with The Killer!

Players alive: 4
Total numbers: 1-6

powerofdeath
January 12th, 2014, 09:26 AM
Dont worry guys! I got this shit!

powerofdeath
January 12th, 2014, 09:30 AM
Noctiz and Hypersniper! You must trust me to do my job to protect your citizens' rights.

NoctiZ
January 12th, 2014, 09:46 AM
Dammit!

I'm #2. Don't hit me broh.

powerofdeath
January 12th, 2014, 09:50 AM
Dammit!

I'm #2. Don't hit me broh.

And I am number 1!

WiFoM

Numbertwo
January 12th, 2014, 09:51 AM
And I am number 1!

WiFoM

you cant be number 1 becouse i am number 1.

powerofdeath
January 12th, 2014, 09:52 AM
you cant be number 1 becouse i am number 1.

Pfft. Youre Number 2.

15612

NoctiZ
January 12th, 2014, 02:23 PM
Pfft. Youre Number 2.

15612

Dammit, he can't be Number 2! I am Number Two!

Hypersniper
January 12th, 2014, 04:24 PM
Oi I'm number 1 not you

Oi who's number 5

Espozito
January 13th, 2014, 09:39 AM
Turn Results:

A pair of boots has been killed and someone then tried to imprison it.
Earlier prisoners have been released.

Players alive: 4
Total numbers: 1-7

NoctiZ
January 13th, 2014, 09:45 AM
I'm 3 yo. Don't hurt me.

Numbertwo
January 13th, 2014, 09:46 AM
why did the numbers increase from 1-6 to 1-7?

Espozito
January 13th, 2014, 10:00 AM
why did the numbers increase from 1-6 to 1-7?

Total numbers are those you can pick. They doesn't include those which are jailed. Two "numbers" have been released and one of them killed. Means +1

powerofdeath
January 13th, 2014, 01:28 PM
why did the numbers increase from 1-6 to 1-7?

I am number 6!

Numbertwo
January 13th, 2014, 01:30 PM
I am number 6!

i believe you. Good bye.

Espozito
January 14th, 2014, 09:28 AM
Results:

A Lady Gaga poster has been killed.
Some trash has been arrested.

Players Alive: 4
Total Numbers (In prison): 5 (1)

powerofdeath
January 14th, 2014, 09:38 AM
Noctiz and Hypersniper, dont say your numbers. If you do, #2 will have 50% chance to kill me while I have 25% chance to arrest him.

Numbertwo
January 14th, 2014, 09:39 AM
Noctiz and Hypersniper, dont say your numbers. If you do, #2 will have 50% chance to kill me while I have 25% chance to arrest him.

they are not going to win if they are dead. i think that 50% chance is worth it.

NoctiZ
January 14th, 2014, 09:52 AM
We won't win with you either NumberTwo..

Espozito
January 15th, 2014, 09:22 AM
Result:

Some random stuff has been killed and then someone tried to imprison it.
All earlier prisoners have been released.

Players alive: 4
Total numbers: 5



Remember there's a skip option in case you don't want to wait 24 hours.

Numbertwo
January 15th, 2014, 09:41 AM
what were the odds that we both hit the only number that didn't have a player in it?

Espozito
January 15th, 2014, 10:01 AM
Well, you both psyched about #2 ^^

Espozito
January 16th, 2014, 09:22 AM
Results:

NoctiZ has been killed and someone imprisoned his corpse!

Players alive: 3
Total numbers: 4

powerofdeath
January 16th, 2014, 09:39 AM
Number 3 again?

Espozito
January 17th, 2014, 09:11 AM
Ending



The last blank number has been imprisoned.
Hypersniper has been killed.

That leaves only 2 players and 2 total numbers. And by the OoO there's no point to spend one more turn, because we are ready to name the winner of Survival Quest Crime City!




Numbertwo The Killer! Congratulations!



SQ research results:

1. This game was a test for online, but it was mostly ruined due to lack of people and probably unbalanced setup.
2. It was also a fast-mind idea, like "Wanna do something... Hey, how about...". Future Survival Quests will be well-thought (or I'll try ^^) and more interesting.
3. Let's say, there WILL be Survival Quest #5 wich will include both travelling and puzzling. And surviving of course!
4. Nah, just wanna add one more number.
5. Sorry, can't control myself!

powerofdeath
January 17th, 2014, 10:00 AM
Aww... Even after perfect wifom, i still manage to lose.

powerofdeath
January 17th, 2014, 10:04 AM
I am number 6!


i believe you. Good bye.

I was actually number 6.



Number 3 again?

I was trying to encourage you to hit #3 again making you actually avoid #3
I was number 3

Numbertwo
January 18th, 2014, 09:51 AM
I was actually going to pick number #6 that time but then i remembered that i had allready sent in my action and i didn't want to change it.