Player's Choice Award Voting

[FM Ferengi]

Thanks to everyone who participated in FM18!
We'd like to open up voting for the Player's Choice Award. Feel free to comment on notable play and things related to your Player's Choice vote in this thread.

[ypmagic]

Titus made a heckofagood Mayor.

-vote Titus

[FM Donnelly]

Uh... You closed the epilogue thread so we can't post. If you could open it, that'd be great.

[FM Ferengi]

Uh... You closed the epilogue thread so we can't post. If you could open it, that'd be great.

The thread appears to be open to me and the five other people who were able to post there, so this might be a permissions issue. Unfortunately FM Game Master is sleeping and I don't have access to edit permissions. I suggest trying to post from your main account until he has time to look into this. I apologize for any inconvenience this causes.

[Gerik]

Yeah, it's working for me on here. Weird. Oh well.

[Slaol]

In light of Galloways lack of inclusion in the poll I push for a non-vote.

Beyond Galloway please consider Cafaralli and only Cafaralli.

[Apache]

if you don't make a public vote ppl can self vote (unless that's allowed)

[Slaol]

My personal thoughts.


Mendez / Galloway
Cafaralli
Monroe
Morgan / Ballard (pre-Savage)
Donnelley
Ackerman
Everyone that didn't play
Buchwalter
Everyone else that did play in no real order
Master game-thrower 1: Phelps
Master game-thrower 2: Ryan

[Slaol]

if you don't make a public vote ppl can self vote (unless that's allowed)

Yes, go vote yourself.

[FM Ferengi]

In light of Galloways lack of inclusion in the poll I push for a non-vote.

Beyond Galloway please consider Cafaralli and only Cafaralli.

Players who were modkilled are ineligible to win any post-game awards.



if you don't make a public vote ppl can self vote (unless that's allowed)

I'm not sure why it didn't make it a public poll to begin with. I've PM'ed FM Game Master to look into this when he wakes up. One vote per FM Participant, please. You are allowed to self vote if you feel so inclined.

[Slaol]

Players who were modkilled are ineligible to win any post-game awards.

Gotta get dat non-vote for symbolic award.

[Nick]

Round 1 screening: Died too early to make an impact



FM Ballard
FM Becket
FM Bekowsky
FM Biggs
FM Bishop
FM Cohen
FM Colmyer
FM Gage
FM McKelty
FM Morgan


Round 2 screening: Lacked contribution



FM Chapman
FM Fontaine
FM Green
FM Kelso


Round 3 screening: Failed to catch the opportunity



FM Ackerman
FM Black
FM Buchwalter
FM Carruthers
FM Dunn
FM Hogeboom
FM Hopgood


Round 4 screening: Trolls



FM Earle
FM Mason


Round 5 screening: Overplayed your cards



FM Donnelly
FM Monroe
FM Phelps
FM Ryan


Round 6: Leftovers



FM Cafarelli
FM Galletta
FM Kalou
FM Mendez
FM Parker
FM Rose

[Apache]

Yes, go vote yourself.

didn't say i am planning to do that

[Cryptonic]

I really loved Galloway's "Lynch the last Savage, then it's 2v2 and you just have to indefinitely block us correctly in order to not-lose. Anything else you could do is stupid." It was really convincing lmao.

also hosts made me sad by saying "lord" all the time in the rp :( it's "ford"!!!! :p

anyways, gg. i don't know if it was just easy to do, but scum seemed to do well in controlling the mayor. So, goodjob on that front. I don't know why everyone freaked out at Kelso on the last day, when it was the only way he could even have a chance to win. I liked Kelso :p

[Nick]

anyways, gg. i don't know if it was just easy to do, but scum seemed to do well in controlling the mayor. So, goodjob on that front. I don't know why everyone freaked out at Kelso on the last day, when it was the only way he could even have a chance to win. I liked Kelso :p

Kelso literally said "lynch me" when he posted the "spoilers". Should have lurked and keep them none the wiser.

[Nick]

Oh Dunn is Slaol. Great WIFOM there.

[Cryptonic]

Kelso literally said "lynch me" when he posted the "spoilers". Should have lurked and keep them none the wiser.

Still, people saying "I hope I never play a FM with you ever again" was a little overboard when he was doing the only thing he could do to have a chance at victory :p

[ypmagic]

I really loved Galloway's "Lynch the last Savage, then it's 2v2 and you just have to indefinitely block us correctly in order to not-lose. Anything else you could do is stupid." It was really convincing lmao.


Oh when I saw that Damus was Galloway..... oh boi I got scared.

[Cryptonic]

Lolol you didnt figure it out when he changed his avatar to the Joker?

[FM Buchwalter]

Kelso literally said "lynch me" when he posted the "spoilers". Should have lurked and keep them none the wiser.

That is what I said!

Then again I guess we all said that.

[FM Bishop]

Round 1 screening: Died too early to make an impact
While true that I didn't impact to much, I would argue that for the short time I had the interview proved to influence the game long after my death. Shame though that I could not make any use of it. And I apologize to the poor coroner for not thinking about my last will sooner than 5 minutes before reading that I moved onto another plane.
I definitely had fun taunting the Mafia. :D

[Titus]

When the scum figured out my com, I was a little easier to manipulate. I had my suspicions on Mendez (and even fewer on Donnelly). After figuring out my com, they had an advantage in how to create the arguments. All the scum were people I routinely played with.

I picked Rose. I did have some suspicions of him but he put up an excellent defense on the day I lynched Lichtmann. Plus, he had to manage the end game a lot, forming alliances at the right time, etc.

[Damus_Graves]

Players choice needs to be Donnelly for overall performance. :)

[FM Buchwalter]

Players choice needs to be Donnelly for overall performance. :)

At least for the Mafia members, I would vote for Donnelly too.

But I do not feel like I know enough to make a fair vote.

[Slaol]

Oh Dunn is Slaol. Great WIFOM there.

Wut?

[Slaol]

I must say- the completion of my first large game as scum has reborn me for FMs. 15 and 16 were easy mode because of Citizen being simple, but my first game as scum; especially some if it being.. Embarrassing...., has created a renewed interest. Be prepared everyone, Slaol with a whole 18% effort (I'd hope) will be more dangerous in future FMs ;)

[Nick]

I would argue that for the short time I had the interview proved to influence the game long after my death.

I think they still did not trust Earle's interview results?



Wut?

For putting <18% effort.

Thought you got killed early. :p

[Nick]

Mafia chat is a mess because of disagreement between those who used logic and those who used gut-feeling? I see communication breakdown. Maybe everyone is busy?

I wonder if I could see more of CP9-type night chat in the future.

[Slaol]

Gut feeling people used logic too :D

Although I was busy early game, yes.

[Titus]

I must say- the completion of my first large game as scum has reborn me for FMs. 15 and 16 were easy mode because of Citizen being simple, but my first game as scum; especially some if it being.. Embarrassing...., has created a renewed interest. Be prepared everyone, Slaol with a whole 18% effort (I'd hope) will be more dangerous in future FMs ;)

I would hardly call your play embarrassing. I did seriously consider your plan until I could tell you had made up parts of your consigliere report and other things I viewed as lies. Of course, it was kinda hard to make a REAL one when you lacked a consigliere. The smarter play might have been ceding the second drug dealer.

[Slaol]

Well, my plan was to be pro-town enough to try and doge lynch while still leaving the cards in my mafias hands. It worked well enough to basically, seemingly, remove day 6 from being used in scum hunting. I'm sure some got some info, but the majority of the day was 'lolwutdo #heclaimed'. And voting was manipulated onto the double train so it removed that weapon. Idk, I was happy with day 6, but basically nothing else

[powerofdeath]

Voted for myself, that one vote will make me sleep at nights (:

[Gerik]

Mafia chat is a mess because of disagreement between those who used logic and those who used gut-feeling? I see communication breakdown. Maybe everyone is busy?

I wonder if I could see more of CP9-type night chat in the future.

What is it about CP9 night chat that you liked in particular? Obviously we were much more cohesive as a faction, but is there anything else that stuck out to you? Just curious.

[AppleyNO]

What is it about CP9 night chat that you liked in particular? Obviously we were much more cohesive as a faction, but is there anything else that stuck out to you? Just curious.
LOLOLOLOL

PIRATES OBVIOUSLY OP!

>.>

[Titus]

Well, my plan was to be pro-town enough to try and doge lynch while still leaving the cards in my mafias hands. It worked well enough to basically, seemingly, remove day 6 from being used in scum hunting. I'm sure some got some info, but the majority of the day was 'lolwutdo #heclaimed'. And voting was manipulated onto the double train so it removed that weapon. Idk, I was happy with day 6, but basically nothing else

Double train was my idea of not wanting to let you go. I kept it after you lied to convince you that all scum hunting had stopped and get the alignments out for everyone. :-p The idea was pretty smart but the execution was lacking.

[Taekyon]

I really loved Galloway's "Lynch the last Savage, then it's 2v2 and you just have to indefinitely block us correctly in order to not-lose. Anything else you could do is stupid." It was really convincing lmao.

also hosts made me sad by saying "lord" all the time in the rp :( it's "ford"!!!! :p

anyways, gg. i don't know if it was just easy to do, but scum seemed to do well in controlling the mayor. So, goodjob on that front. I don't know why everyone freaked out at Kelso on the last day, when it was the only way he could even have a chance to win. I liked Kelso :p

Yay!


Kelso literally said "lynch me" when he posted the "spoilers". Should have lurked and keep them none the wiser.

Couldn't do anything else... trying to not vote anyone would make them lynch me, Trying to vote skip day? They would have lynched me.
So I trolled for the dead people in the dead chat! =)
Too bad because if no lynch that day, it would have been possible that Galloway and Rose kill themself and I win alone.
They wouldn't have taken the guess to lynch me and get lynched by the other one.

[Nick]

More organized. Sharing of ideas and reads in a coherent manner. Everyone on the same frequency so evil schemes and nasty plots can flow.

[Nick]

Yay!



Couldn't do anything else... trying to not vote anyone would make them lynch me, Trying to vote skip day? They would have lynched me.
So I trolled for the dead people in the dead chat! =)
Too bad because if no lynch that day, it would have been possible that Galloway and Rose kill themself and I win alone.
They wouldn't have taken the guess to lynch me and get lynched by the other one.

I thought with your activity level, (1) busy disappear for 12 hours then, (2) thinking hard for 11 hours, then (3) making my decision now for 1 hour would be believable enough to buy you enough time.

But is it a must lynch day?

[CmG]

My vote went for Titus. Had town totaly under control at day. Wasn't afraid to do the calls while others just used her as an excuse for not trying to get the game into the right direction. Her night actions were shit yeah and basicly you can blame her for a lot of questionable choices, but her day play was still the best there was for a towny. I think guts and a lot of activity has to be rewarded.

[Burnt Eskimo]

Why are people voting for me....

[Titus]

Titus made a heckofagood Mayor.

-vote Titus


My vote went for Titus. Had town totaly under control at day. Wasn't afraid to do the calls while others just used her as an excuse for not trying to get the game into the right direction. Her night actions were shit yeah and basicly you can blame her for a lot of questionable choices, but her day play was still the best there was for a towny. I think guts and a lot of activity has to be rewarded.

Thank you. :)

[Nazzhoul]

Thank you. :)

Agree with CmG. You were certainly better than you were given credit for, especially considering that this was your first game. Your whole "gladiator" play was actually really good, in spite of its flaws.

Though I honestly still don't get the Biggs lynch :P

[Taekyon]

I thought with your activity level, (1) busy disappear for 12 hours then, (2) thinking hard for 11 hours, then (3) making my decision now for 1 hour would be believable enough to buy you enough time.

But is it a must lynch day?

That was early in the game... later in the game AKA The 3 last day I think, I wasn't that busy. So it would appear as me wanting a day without lynch.

Also, They wouldn't allow a no lynch day because This way I had 80% chance to win.

Meh. That was still a nice game.

[Titus]

Agree with CmG. You were certainly better than you were given credit for, especially considering that this was your first game. Your whole "gladiator" play was actually really good, in spite of its flaws.

Though I honestly still don't get the Biggs lynch :P

I was wrong about the Biggs lynch. I thought he was scum because the witch targeted a delta twice. Even if I was wrong, then the Biggs lynch essentially confirmed a witch being present in the game, thus removing the random any and forcing us down the path of confirming all the roles in the game.

[Numbertwo]

Not a single savage has recieved a award, were we really that bad? I would have voted on galloway if i could since he completely fooled me that he was a townie untill he started pushing for a lynch against mason.

[Titus]

Not a single savage has recieved a award, were we really that bad? I would have voted on galloway if i could since he completely fooled me that he was a townie untill he started pushing for a lynch against mason.

I voted for Rose. No the savages weren't bad. Most of them just didn't stand out in my mind.

[TheDarkestLight]

I voted for Rose. No the savages weren't bad. Most of them just didn't stand out in my mind.

I died too early to stand out. D:

[Mateo]

Not a single savage has recieved a award, were we really that bad? I would have voted on galloway if i could since he completely fooled me that he was a townie untill he started pushing for a lynch against mason.

but u won :D

[TheDarkestLight]

but u won :D

Victory is indeed a reward in it's own right...

[FM Kalou]

win streak is unbroken!

[CmG]

Why are people voting for me....

It's the troll gene Burnt. You are the king of trolls. Your subjects keep voting on you. xD

[clementine]

Mafia chat is a mess because of disagreement between those who used logic and those who used gut-feeling? I see communication breakdown. Maybe everyone is busy?

I wonder if I could see more of CP9-type night chat in the future.


What is it about CP9 night chat that you liked in particular? Obviously we were much more cohesive as a faction, but is there anything else that stuck out to you? Just curious.

I think in general, smaller night chats will have more success at productive discussion and teamwork. Getting a 4-person CP9 from FM17 to cooperate is a lot easier than getting a 6-person mafia to cooperate in FM18. I feel like in the CP9, our roles had more standalone power, where each player could think about how to use their role without necessarily needing to communicate with the other players, whereas communication was essential for the mafia in this game, especially with a kidnapper and two drug dealers who had a lot of potential for combined effect drugs.

I think a large part of the reason why the mafia night chat had so much disagreement was because each person's action affects everyone else's action to a larger extent than usual, so you have people proposing synergistic actions for several teammates. Factor in each player proposing conflicting synergistic actions that they feel strongly about, and it makes for a pretty messy night chat.

[Deantwo]

wait... someone voted for FM Buchwalter? really? why? he was a total loser!

anyway... who to vote for... mmh... can i vote for Switzerland? cause Switzerland seem like an awesome guy!

[CmG]

Vote for FM Monroe then. He deserves at least some votes. He was the only town player who made me smile on several occasions. :)

[Slaol]

Why are people voting for me....

My thoughts exactly. This poll seems more like the 2nd place award. And so we vote for the guy who already win 1st? Lol.

[Gerik]

I think in general, smaller night chats will have more success at productive discussion and teamwork. Getting a 4-person CP9 from FM17 to cooperate is a lot easier than getting a 6-person mafia to cooperate in FM18. I feel like in the CP9, our roles had more standalone power, where each player could think about how to use their role without necessarily needing to communicate with the other players, whereas communication was essential for the mafia in this game, especially with a kidnapper and two drug dealers who had a lot of potential for combined effect drugs.

I think a large part of the reason why the mafia night chat had so much disagreement was because each person's action affects everyone else's action to a larger extent than usual, so you have people proposing synergistic actions for several teammates. Factor in each player proposing conflicting synergistic actions that they feel strongly about, and it makes for a pretty messy night chat.

That's true, I suppose. In CP9 the only thing we really did as a team was fake the electromaniac on day one using the drug and your vented account. And I found the godfather early, so half of our actions were kills and the other half were pretty easy to plan, since you would vent the same person until death. The DD was probably the most challenging and I flet like we never quite knew what to do with it, though I did like how we used it to communicate with the mafia that one time after Sanji claimed escort.

In this FM we definitely gained far more benefit from synchronizing the use of our abilities.

[Titus]

Player's Choice =/= second place. It means who the players thought was the best. If the player's agree with the host, then that's who they should select.

[FM Ferengi]

Player's Choice awards are not necessarily second place votes, or a vote for the player you think did the best. A lot of people probably have different criteria for their Player's Choice vote, and there really are no right or wrong answers here. It's simply a crowdsourced award that the participants use to recognize one player from FM18. Usually the Player's Choice Award goes to somebody that did not win any host-determined awards, but it is completely up to you as the players. Each award winner will receive a special forum signature made by yours truly! :D

[Titus]

Ooooh the winner gets a signature.

*looks at her own lack of signature*

I feel naked.

[CmG]

I can make yo a sig if you want to. Ask Fatalis i am pro at it!

[Slaol]

That's true, I suppose. In CP9 the only thing we really did as a team was fake the electromaniac on day one using the drug and your vented account. And I found the godfather early, so half of our actions were kills and the other half were pretty easy to plan, since you would vent the same person until death. The DD was probably the most challenging and I flet like we never quite knew what to do with it, though I did like how we used it to communicate with the mafia that one time after Sanji claimed escort.

In this FM we definitely gained far more benefit from synchronizing the use of our abilities.

I was dissatisfied with the lack of maintaining of the Electromaniac. The use of the vent account to make a double feedback was beautiful, and as much as communicating the 'role block' to the pirate captain was equally cool, I would have liked to see the EM done over more. Drug Dealer is just such a situation thing, it has so many options and none of them work -_-

[Titus]

I can make yo a sig if you want to. Ask Fatalis i am pro at it!

I'd be honored. I do a decent job myself but I think that it would take far too long for me to do on this computer as lost my favorite graphics program.

[CmG]

No you would probably hate me for it :D

[Titus]

No you would probably hate me for it :D

Ahh I cannot hate anyone.

[Damus_Graves]

Mendez literally got MVP. This is the choice of the player who you feel played better/on par with his performance. I really don't agree with voting for the MVP to get players choice cause its like hey dude your mvp lets vote you for the mvp you already got.

[Nick]

There is no need to hide the existence of Drug Dealer. Let it be known. And let all PRs with feedbacks be suspected.

Blackmailer? Use the basic. Claim night feedback. Else be the highest poster. Let busy people suicide.

Swamping town with fake information to waste their time is good scum tactic. Just like real life.

[FM Ferengi]

Remember to get your votes in for Players Choice! About 2/3 of you have voted already and it looks like a close race!

The poll will close at this time: http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=12am+June+27%2C+2013+gmt&x=0&y=0

[FM Ferengi]

Additionally we were unable to figure out how to make this a public poll. Therefore we will use the honor system.
-Please only vote if you are a FM 18 player in good standing.
-Please do not vote from both your FM account and your main or use any smurfs to influence the outcome of the poll.

Thanks in advance, and good luck to all!

[Titus]

Mendez literally got MVP. This is the choice of the player who you feel played better/on par with his performance. I really don't agree with voting for the MVP to get players choice cause its like hey dude your mvp lets vote you for the mvp you already got.

I agree with Damus here. Mendez almost seems like host sheeping.

The way I see it, the three major candidates (other than Mendez) have the following cases for them.

1) Donnelly - He was a good blackmailer who had a good portion of the town fooled. I'm not sure if many publicly suspected him until close to the end game and no one made a major play for him. The savages ate him though.

2) Parker - Parker used new and novel was to guide the town to three straight correct lynches. She missed one, but would have had at least one lynch (Galloway) if she hadn't got laced soma. She left many clues as to who the scum were upon her death. Ex: Notes with Galloway, and the false mason claim. The biggest downside to Parker is that she was new and appeared a little confused.

3) Rose - Rose did an excellent job managing the endgame for the savages. The biggest downside to Rose is that Rose was a major lurker at start and had little influence when she was a townie.

[Cryptonic]

Mendez literally got MVP. This is the choice of the player who you feel played better/on par with his performance. I really don't agree with voting for the MVP to get players choice cause its like hey dude your mvp lets vote you for the mvp you already got.

I disagree.
MVP is who is the best player from the hosts' perspectives, while this is from the player's perspective. If they're the same, then Burn-E just did a really great job. The Hosts and the players have different outlook and information, leading to a different (or in some cases, same) conclusion.

[Titus]

I disagree.
MVP is who is the best player from the hosts' perspectives, while this is from the player's perspective. If they're the same, then Burn-E just did a really great job. The Hosts and the players have different outlook and information, leading to a different (or in some cases, same) conclusion.

I go agree with this. However, I see Burnt Eskimo's play as lucky. She would have been caught soon as scummy if I had lived. She was already in my suspect pairings before my death. Plus, she fell into a trap that I had laid (claiming the fake mason). Anyone who properly decoded the notes would have seen she was scum.

[Burnt Eskimo]

I go agree with this. However, I see Burnt Eskimo's play as lucky. She would have been caught soon as scummy if I had lived. She was already in my suspect pairings before my death. Plus, she fell into a trap that I had laid (claiming the fake mason). Anyone who properly decoded the notes would have seen she was scum.

If I had lived.....

Why would we have let you live. Letting you live would have gotten Galloway lynched. The trap you set would have been good against Savages, but since we knew there was no 2nd soma or enforcer (double drug feedback block + soma message) then it just gave us an oppurtunity to fake the message and have me claim enforcer. Problem really was the original message got posted afaik or made to only confirm Galloway and not the 2nd enforcer.

I was going to vote for you but the lynches you had were only on the scum that were obvious. All the others were mislynches. Not counting Arsonist.

VOTING FOR MCKELTY.

[FM Ferengi]

Congratulations to FM Parker for winning Player's Choice!

I think I'm going to use the little blurb you wrote about yourself in the epilogue post!
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ibdw28.jpg

[Apache]

So this is how to get players choice mvp:
Roll a confirmable town role like mayor
Confirm yourself
Lead lynches, no matter if scum or town

Seemed to work at least for boss and titus, 2 of 2 games i played

I dont think voting ppl just because their role has more power than others is a good idea. Parker just did job as mayor, and not especially well
(not especially bad either)

[Deantwo]

Still one vote on FM Buchwalter. Don't know what to think about that, as I don't feel like I really deserve it. ^^;

[Voss]

So this is how to get players choice mvp:
Roll a confirmable town role like mayor
Confirm yourself
Lead lynches, no matter if scum or town

Seemed to work at least for boss and titus, 2 of 2 games i played

I dont think voting ppl just because their role has more power than others is a good idea. Parker just did job as mayor, and not especially well
(not especially bad either)

Agree here.

[Deantwo]

Congratulations to FM Parker for winning Player's Choice!

I think I'm going to use the little blurb you wrote about yourself in the epilogue post!
http://i44.tinypic.com/2ibdw28.jpg

Congrats Titus!

[Titus]

Agree here.

I can respect that. I felt like I approached the role in a new and unique way that guided the town after my death. I understand some may disagree.

[Slaol]

I can respect that. I felt like I approached the role in a new and unique way that guided the town after my death. I understand some may disagree.

It didn't guide the town before your death, except into their own. You are a good player, but this performance didn't deserve this award over Donnoley/Cafaralli/Galloway. This is personal opinion, of course, but if multiple people laugh and agree that the (confirmed) Mayor was Scum MVP, her plans were not helpful to Town.

[Titus]

It didn't guide the town before your death, except into their own. You are a good player, but this performance didn't deserve this award over Donnoley/Cafaralli/Galloway. This is personal opinion, of course, but if multiple people laugh and agree that the (confirmed) Mayor was Scum MVP, her plans were not helpful to Town.

Let's see here. If the town would have cracked the messages sent to Galloway, they would have had him as scum. Then, when Mendez claimed Enforcer, she would have been outed as scum. Solely because the town didn't do that isn't my responsibility.

I also had a clubber, who totally missed and acted scummy as frack, lurkers who didn't do anything.

I was also the first two figure out two drug dealers but I was talked out of that by the entire town.

So yeah, maybe the town lost but it certainly was NOT due to my playing.

[Voss]

I put a lot of hours and people into cracking the code. Your code was pretty tightly done.

Ackerman I think went missing in mvp.

[Titus]

I put a lot of hours and people into cracking the code. Your code was pretty tightly done.

Ackerman I think went missing in mvp.

It was meant as a last will code. Galloway would have to reveal the part of the soma message I was quoting. Then cracking would be easy.

[Voss]

It was meant as a last will code. Galloway would have to reveal the part of the soma message I was quoting. Then cracking would be easy.

Is there any way we could have asked him to reveal the last will with our looking scummy?

[Damus_Graves]

yeah dude. I knew the people left sides chapman would give no care to trying to crack it so i felt no danger in posting it unedited. thats why chapman died that night heehhe

[Nazzhoul]

yeah dude. I knew the people left sides chapman would give no care to trying to crack it so i felt no danger in posting it unedited. thats why chapman died that night heehhe

I was actually thinking during that night "should I try to crack this code?"
But then I thought "Nah he wouldn't try something as ballsy as posting the full code but lying about his claim"
You should have kept me alive

[Damus_Graves]

Maybe... >>
My manipulations were to great even for I.

[Titus]

Is there any way we could have asked him to reveal the last will with our looking scummy?

Yeah there was. Frankly, you could logically conclude after Lichtmann was lynched there was NO doctor upon my death. Galloway should have died. He was the best townie at that point. Galloway didn't die. What the frack? Also, I had just backed off from lynching an uncced escort but lynched an uncced doctor. That wouldn't make sense. Y'all should have known that Galloway had CCed doctor.

[Titus]

Galloway was dead the next night. Period. If I had vital information, Galloway should reveal it immediately.

[Voss]

From your perspective and the knowledge that Galloway claimed doctor yeah its obvious. From ours; not so much

[Titus]

From your perspective and the knowledge that Galloway claimed doctor yeah its obvious. From ours; not so much

I was assuming you guys would logically solve that, based on the external clues even without the journalist interview. I couldn't obviously tell the group to lynch Galloway if Lichtmann came clear because that would be a death sentence for the real doctor. Blah. I overestimated town. It was there all along.

It wasn't a perspective thing. It was an obvious thing.

[Damus_Graves]

That happens a lot. However the problem is that the remaining town were content to be lead for a good portion of the game so they didnt put more thought into things then needed. Its part of the reason, a more obscure one, of why we let you live so long

[Mateo]

kinda starting to regret voting for parker. the scum you lynched were obvious, and you let the maf tunnel you into voting lichtmann even though we tried to dissuade you.

[CmG]

It's just an award. Not the world dawg. Just do it like i do and write a list of all the plebs you gonna kill/lynch in fm 19

[Mateo]

fm 19 everyone dies

[CmG]

I know but the order is important!

[Mateo]

lets make it something esoteric...

how about, every letter has a point value, add up the points in everyone name, and start killing from the top of the list?

classy

[CmG]

I don't care just start with Gerik and Slaol.

Actually just start with the players choice Parker than go to the next one with the most votes aka. Burnt and Gerik etc... Since Burnt and Gerik have the same vote count you can WIFOM kill the other to fool the doc. Smart isn't it?

[Titus]

fm 19 everyone dies

If you start with me, I'll take it as a compliment. :)

[Fragos]

No one loves Ryan anymore?

I thought that the reason why Parker chose Lictmann over me is because I won more trust points than Lichtmann. Turned out the actual reason was because Parker thought that Galloway is the real doctor!

[ypmagic]

No one loves Ryan anymore?

I thought that the reason why Parker chose Lictmann over me is because I won more trust points than Lichtmann. Turned out the actual reason was because Parker thought that Galloway is the real doctor!

I kept saying Galloway was evil and no one listened.

[Nick]

Town is majority... so non-town will never be player's choice.

[Mateo]

I kept saying Galloway was evil and no one listened.

you were AAA+ lurky scum why would we listen to you

[ypmagic]

you were AAA+ lurky scum why would we listen to you

I replaced two people in the middle of the fkin FM where it was my first main FM. There were lurkier people than me and you were lucky enough I posted more than five times a day.

[CmG]

I kept saying Galloway was evil and no one listened.

Dito. I said it almost every day. But nobody listened.

[Damus_Graves]

Its either no one listened or I was too good at staying out of the limelight till needed.

[CmG]

Lol. It was more like town was shit beyond believe.

[Voss]

whens fm 19 starting? =DD

[Titus]

Town is majority... so non-town will never be player's choice.

Absolutely not. I would have voted for Galloway if he hadn't gotten modkilled. He played me like a fiddle. I just won't vote for someone who was modkilled unless they were in the hospital or something like that.

[Titus]

whens fm 19 starting? =DD

The sooner the better. I'd want to see how long I can hide my com for and actually scumhunt. I gave hiding my own com zero effort because it was my first M-FM. However, it should have been obvious that I was caught when Lichtmann (ika) said it was the Battle of the COM (Damus and I).

Edit by me after... It's starting July 15. If you want in, sign soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the host closed signups at 40. Beyond 40, more than half the signers wouldn't be in initially. Of course, that's me speculating.

[Gerik]

Town is majority... so non-town will never be player's choice.

FM 16.

[Glip]

FM 16.

Also FM 14.

[Voss]

The sooner the better. I'd want to see how long I can hide my com for and actually scumhunt. I gave hiding my own com zero effort because it was my first M-FM. However, it should have been obvious that I was caught when Lichtmann (ika) said it was the Battle of the COM (Damus and I).

Edit by me after... It's starting July 15. If you want in, sign soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the host closed signups at 40. Beyond 40, more than half the signers wouldn't be in initially. Of course, that's me speculating.

where is signup thread?

[ypmagic]

The sooner the better. I'd want to see how long I can hide my com for and actually scumhunt. I gave hiding my own com zero effort because it was my first M-FM. However, it should have been obvious that I was caught when Lichtmann (ika) said it was the Battle of the COM (Damus and I).

Edit by me after... It's starting July 15. If you want in, sign soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the host closed signups at 40. Beyond 40, more than half the signers wouldn't be in initially. Of course, that's me speculating.

/presign

[Apache]

The sooner the better. I'd want to see how long I can hide my com for and actually scumhunt. I gave hiding my own com zero effort because it was my first M-FM. However, it should have been obvious that I was caught when Lichtmann (ika) said it was the Battle of the COM (Damus and I).

Edit by me after... It's starting July 15. If you want in, sign soon. I wouldn't be surprised if the host closed signups at 40. Beyond 40, more than half the signers wouldn't be in initially. Of course, that's me speculating.

why hide your COM? if you're town and you're not some fm vet no need to imo

also that was a FM, no MFM
i think you mean MFM starts july
FM XIX isnt announced yet afaik

[CmG]

Women usually have a good chance by nature to get players choice, especially on nerdy homepages. Oh and circlejerkers. Nevermind I just realised that you are mixing some stuff up. Lol.

[Nick]

MVPs and award winners of previous games tend to hold important roles in the next FM.

You guys know what to do LOLOLOL.

[Voss]

Might hold some truth. I was mvp and got Savage godfather

[Titus]

Women usually have a good chance by nature to get players choice, especially on nerdy homepages. Oh and circlejerkers. Nevermind I just realised that you are mixing some stuff up. Lol.

This is why I would hide my com. I want everyone to be treated equally, regardless of gender.

[Titus]

/presign

Use the signup thread in the signup forum.