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FM Ferengi
June 9th, 2013, 11:00 PM
Day 9


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQglBPIWJuQ

After her part in the mislynch of FM Lichtmann, FM Parker spiraled downward into a deep depression. She turned to Soma to escape from reality and the consequences of her poor decisions.

And then...

One day she overdosed.

FM Parker died. FM Parker was the Mayor.

A note was found beside her corpse:

PHELPS WAS THE [bleep] CONSORT! HE NEVER ROLE BLOCKED HIS OWN [bleep] GF, HOW DO YOU NOT SEE WHAT I AM ALREADY EVEN GALLOWAY [bleep] KNOWS WHAT I AM. YOU ARE [bleep] BLIND BY SUCH SIMPLE THINGS. LYNCH ME NOW AND END THIS [bleep] GAME I'M SICK OF YOUR IGNORANCE TO SEE THE OBVIOUS. YOU NEED TO LEARN AGAIN. YOU DO GREAT IN S-FM BUT APPARENTLY YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING RIGHT AS A TOWN MAYOR IN A BIG FM. ALSO WHY WOULD MASON FAKE A BLACKMAIL. WHY WOULD DUNN SAY "OK WE WILL BLACKMAIL YOU" ONLY A [bleep] MAFIA WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I'M [bleep] DONE HERE LYNCH ME AND SEE HOW BAD YOU ARE AT SEEING SIMPLE THINGS RIGHT NOW. I HOPE THE SCUMS LET YOU LIVE SO YOU CAN WALLOW IN IT. I HOPE THEY [bleep] LYNCH YOU JUST FOR HILARITY OR LET YOU BE THE LAST [bleep] TOWN. OR EVEN BETTER THE MAFIA BLACKMAILS YOU SO YOU LEARN ABOUT YOUR INCOMPETENCE. YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT I AM BY NOW AND THE FACT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE 2 FEET IN FRONT OF YOU IS PATHETIC. I AM DONE HERE.

Host I'm ready to join dead chat.

Graveyard:
FM Gage (Architect) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM McKelty (Delta) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Bishop (Detective) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM Becket (Corrupt Journalist) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM Cohen (Arsonist) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Colmyer (Delta) - Committed suicide.
FM Morgan (Savage) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Biggs (Delta) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Ballard (Savage Investigator) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Bekowsky (Delta) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Buchwalter (Drug Dealer) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Hogeboom (Bus Driver) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Monroe (Escort) - Eaten alive viciously.
FM Dunn (Kidnapper) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Black (Mason Clubber) - Eaten alive viciously.
FM Cafarelli (Investigator) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Phelps (Consort) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Carruthers (Delta) - Committed suicide.
FM Hopgood (Jailor) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Lichtmann (Doctor) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Parker (Mayor) - Overdosed on laced soma.

Role List:
Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]

[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
[Evil Neutral]
[s][Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Random Any]

Not Crossed Off:
FM Morgan (Savage)
FM Ballard (Savage Investigator)

Anonymous Accounts:
FM Ackerman
FM Ballard
FM Becket
FM Bekowsky
FM Biggs
FM Bishop
FM Black
FM Buchwalter
FM Cafarelli
FM Carruthers
FM Chapman
FM Cohen
FM Colmyer
FM Donnelly
FM Dunn
FM Earle
FM Fontaine
FM Gage
FM Galletta
FM Galloway
FM Green
FM Hogeboom
FM Hopgood
FM Kalou
FM Kelso
FM Leary
FM Lichtmann
FM Mason
FM McKelty
FM Mendez
FM Monroe
FM Morgan
FM Parker
FM Phelps
FM Rose
FM Ryan

8

Night 10 begins at: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10pm+PST+June+11

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:01 PM
The tyrant is dead!

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:03 PM
Journalist message?


Also LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL at some feedback I got.

FM Ferengi
June 9th, 2013, 11:05 PM
OP updated to include mafia death note. Sorry for any inconvenience this causes.

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:05 PM
Lol seriously??

FM Ferengi
June 9th, 2013, 11:06 PM
Journalist message?

Aside from the missing death note, all other aspects of the OP have been processed without error.

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:07 PM
I'm speechless. I can't believe that he actually lynched someone who was protecting him the whole time.

Don't blame this one on me. It was both Parker and Lichtmann's fault. I was not surpised to see that the second train was on me, but beause of that Parker had to choose between "bad" and "terrible" decision. And lynching Lichtmann was really a terrible desicion! Shame that I was absent after all this happened.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:07 PM
K I'm gonna get this ball rolling n stuff and present the latest discussion to begin with k? k.

FM Green.

What are we talkin about with this guy? All he has done is grip and moan about my posts and focus on me without even trying to make any use out of himself and even try to hunt for anything other than getting me to stop censoring my cussing. He has been called town by some shady people and even called some shady people town. He doesn't even try and take the time to collect feedbacks or ANYTHING that could be ANY help to ANYONE. Its rehashed stuff after rehashed stuff and so on. I'm pretty sure this guy is the scum we are looking for.

FM Green

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:10 PM
Bleh...I didn't really want light man to be lynched, but I guess the mayor made her choice.

I was witched~

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:11 PM
Galloway, you are an idiot as well. All this talk about Lichtmann being scum... what makes you better than Miss Parker?

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:12 PM
Bleh...I didn't really want light man to be lynched, but I guess the mayor made her choice.

I was witched~

who did you try and target mason?

and galloway, i disagree with your choice of lynch. we try the ackerman or mason train. and im in favor of ackerman. why would he not call it out. thats total bullshit.

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:13 PM
with ryan being a close second.

FM Ackerman

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:13 PM
Im assuming that earle was roleblocked.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:14 PM
Galloway, you are an idiot as well. All this talk about Lichtmann being scum... what makes you better than Miss Parker?

The fact that not only am I three times more useful than Green has been the entire game but I accomplished what I needed to accomplish already. Anyways Lichtman was a [bleep] toxin to everyone with his crazy talks and lurking and just being a general spammer. Screw his role because one stubborn doc who refuses to cooperate with a confirmed town and not try to be useful is tons worse than a dead doctor who we can read his posts and determine the validity of his suspects.

Forum Mafia GM
June 9th, 2013, 11:14 PM
Death note has been updated with the latest censor.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:15 PM
who did you try and target mason?

and galloway, i disagree with your choice of lynch. we try the ackerman or mason train. and im in favor of ackerman. why would he not call it out. thats total bullshit.

Call it what you want man but Green has been scummy all game. Ackermann is promising hwoever. not like green but close. Whatcha got on him hmm?


Im assuming that earle was roleblocked.

We are gonna find out.

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:16 PM
I already hear the scum who are laughing their ass out for our stupidity. Especially the witch.

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:17 PM
who did you try and target mason?

and galloway, i disagree with your choice of lynch. we try the ackerman or mason train. and im in favor of ackerman. why would he not call it out. thats total bullshit.

I tried rose since I still think she's scum. But I doubt my ideas will go anywhere since ill probably be defending myself today.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:18 PM
I already hear the scum who are laughing their ass out for our stupidity. Especially the witch.

Its not even our stupidity. While I loved to see lichtmann getting hammered for being the absolute [bleep] idiotic toxin he was it was all over the mayor and himself for what happened. Seriously. It didn't matter what I said nor what anyone else said. If Mayor had been more willing to read and lichtmann had been better at defending himself instead of flinging mud that wouldnt have happened. At least Green doesn't act like Lichtmann did even though he is utterly useless and scummy as [bleep]

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:19 PM
I tried rose since I still think she's scum. But I doubt my ideas will go anywhere since ill probably be defending myself today.

And yet you ended up blocking the journalist that was supposed to give uss the mayors last will.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:20 PM
Hey I'd love to join on the other train but I got stuff to do and Green is loads more scummy than anyone else I have ever seen. He writes the [bleep] book on scummy on all matters I previously stated. Seriously while I would absolutely love to be on the other train this one has enough promise to hold my vote.

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:20 PM
Don't you mind if I take the mantle of "town leader" now? I'm much smarter than rest of you idiots out there.

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:21 PM
If anyone counterclaims you mason, we're lynching you, but at the moment I believe you and ackerman lied. He did not get no feedback drug.

Galloway, are you revealing your night feedback?

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:22 PM
And yet you ended up blocking the journalist that was supposed to give uss the mayors last will.

Yea I'm sorry. You think I did that on purpose?...I already said I was witched. How do you know earle interviewed the mayor?

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:23 PM
Fm ackerman Why is this guy still alive?. Why would he refuse to reveal that he was blocked yesterday? I think he was trying to fake blackmail but then he realised that beeing blackmailed was impossible yesterday since someone blackmail suicided.

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:23 PM
Don't you mind if I take the mantle of "town leader" now? I'm much smarter than rest of you idiots out there.

Ryan, as someone that almost got lynched yesterday and with getting suspicion on you, how do you expect anyone to follow you as town leader

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:24 PM
Yea I'm sorry. You think I did that on purpose?...I already said I was witched. How do you know earle interviewed the mayor?

This confirms that you are not a drug dealer at least. You could still be a consort though.

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:25 PM
Ryan, as someone that almost got lynched yesterday and with getting suspicion on you, how do you expect anyone to follow you as town leader

Then who else you would want to follow? Galloway? Certainly not. You'd prefer to leave the town without the leader?

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:26 PM
This confirms that you are not a drug dealer at least. You could still be a consort though.

How does it confirm anything? Please explain

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:27 PM
How does it confirm anything? Please explain

Earle was roleblocked, making him unable to post the interview. Most likely. A drug dealer wouldn't be able to prevent him from posting a interview.

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:28 PM
This confirms that you are not a drug dealer at least. You could still be a consort though.

Well I'm not. But either way. I can't do anything if the witch is gonna be on me from now on

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:28 PM
Then who else you would want to follow? Galloway? Certainly not. You'd prefer to leave the town without the leader?

Town doesn't need a leader if they have a cut and dry pick of ackerman and mason?

Tomorrow we'll worry about the town leader issue

FM Rose
June 9th, 2013, 11:29 PM
I think Parker would have picked mendez as his successor.

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:30 PM
I'll be honest with you. I voted out Lichtmann because I believed him to be one of the Savages and to prove that I am not one of then. I logged in mere minites before Lichtmann was lynched.

I couldn't even talk, after seeing myself and Lichtmann (who claimed himself doctor) at L-4.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:31 PM
Town Leader? LOLOLOL Someone thinks too highly of himself. I have two suspects for Savage GF ryan. Thats you and Green with Green being more so because he is scummier.

@Feedback Reveal
No can do mate. Not unless majority wish for it. BE warned it has little help for anyone

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:32 PM
I'm having banana flavored donut holes and they are delicious.

FM Galloway
June 9th, 2013, 11:33 PM
I'll be honest with you. I voted out Lichtmann because I believed him to be one of the Savages and to prove that I am not one of then. I logged in mere minites before Lichtmann was lynched.

I couldn't even talk, after seeing myself and Lichtmann (who claimed himself doctor) at L-4.

Lets call everyone an idiot for lynching Lichtmann. He was obviously town. HEY YOU YOUR AN IDIOT! YEAH YOU! YOU WITH THE FACE! IDIOT!
Laters says I thought the guy was scummy myself.

Can you shout out scum louder ryan? I think your almost beating the scummaster green.

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:35 PM
If Galloway wasn't so mean he could be leader.
I elect Mendez.

FM Green
June 9th, 2013, 11:36 PM
Look what we did to the Mayor guys. I'm pretty sure the Mayor would've wanted us to kill Ackerman first thing in the morning. I will go on the lynch train to avenge our dead Mayor.
FM Ackerman

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:39 PM
Painting the next leader is like telling the Mafia would to kill next. In any case, I belive Mason and galloway, you shouldn't tunnel because it looks like your defending ackerman.

FM Green
June 9th, 2013, 11:41 PM
K I'm gonna get this ball rolling n stuff and present the latest discussion to begin with k? k.

FM Green.

What are we talkin about with this guy? All he has done is grip and moan about my posts and focus on me without even trying to make any use out of himself and even try to hunt for anything other than getting me to stop censoring my cussing. He has been called town by some shady people and even called some shady people town. He doesn't even try and take the time to collect feedbacks or ANYTHING that could be ANY help to ANYONE. Its rehashed stuff after rehashed stuff and so on. I'm pretty sure this guy is the scum we are looking for.

FM Green

I don't understand your reasoning. We're talking about the prime suspects Lichtmann and Ackerman, but you tend to go forth for some laid back Delta. Why are you voting me? Oh I know. You think I'm [bleep] cause you made yourself scummy by cussing on others. In addition, I think your even more scummy by not claiming a role in 9 days after so many people including me told you to and people have to "guess" what your role is and what category you fit in. Thirdly, you are denying to vote up Ackerman and Lichtmann while the town is saying that they are scum. Even the Mayor said he was scum. Why do you deny this? Cause your scum.
I asked to lynch this guy 2 days ago. I think we should lynch him now. No role, he cusses others off, and he's rejecting the Mayor's suspicions. I just saw this [bleep]'s post and I don't like it. Pressure and hammer later.
FM Galloway

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:42 PM
What role do we even think Ackerman is?
It's drug dealer right? Why is that the highest priority lynch right now.
All he does is pretend that something happened to you.

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:42 PM
Can someone do a numbers crunch so we can see how town fares in winning?

FM Mason
June 9th, 2013, 11:44 PM
Can someone do a numbers crunch so we can see how town fares in winning?

Yea. Let me just carry the 5..and
...
...
13%

FM Kalou
June 9th, 2013, 11:46 PM
I don't understand your reasoning. We're talking about the prime suspects Lichtmann and Ackerman, but you tend to go forth for some laid back Delta. Why are you voting me? Oh I know. You think I'm [bleep] cause you made yourself scummy by cussing on others. In addition, I think your even more scummy by not claiming a role in 9 days after so many people including me told you to and people have to "guess" what your role is and what category you fit in. Thirdly, you are denying to vote up Ackerman and Lichtmann while the town is saying that they are scum. Even the Mayor said he was scum. Why do you deny this? Cause your scum.
I asked to lynch this guy 2 days ago. I think we should lynch him now. No role, he cusses others off, and he's rejecting the Mayor's suspicions. I just saw this [bleep]'s post and I don't like it. Pressure and hammer later.
FM Galloway

Two things wrong with this. You are not going to get the votes to Lynch galloway. Second, galloway claimed Delta and you trying to force it a town power role to claim is not agoood move in thr current situation

we want to lynch scum, no matter who they are

FM Green
June 9th, 2013, 11:48 PM
Can someone do a numbers crunch so we can see how town fares in winning?

We have a hidden Neutral which just might be a Jester. So, with one kill per night, 3 Soma Dealers, 1 Savage Godfather, and a Neutral VS. 11 Town with definite one kill and one recruit or kill per night, we lose at least two Towns per night. We have 48 hours to discuss this mess and lynch one evil, we are not faring well with the loss of our Mayor.

FM Ryan
June 9th, 2013, 11:51 PM
We have a hidden Neutral which just might be a Jester. So, with one kill per night, 3 Soma Dealers, 1 Savage Godfather, and a Neutral VS. 11 Town with definite one kill and one recruit or kill per night, we lose at least two Towns per night. We have 48 hours to discuss this mess and lynch one evil, we are not faring well with the loss of our Mayor.

And what about the witch?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:00 AM
15 people,
Worst case scenario is 3 Mafia, 4 savages, 1 witch, a student turned mafia or corrupt journalist, 9 scum vs 6 town.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:02 AM
15 people,
Worst case scenario is 3 Mafia, 4 savages, 1 witch, a student turned mafia or corrupt journalist,. 9 scum vs 6 town.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:03 AM
I don't understand your reasoning. We're talking about the prime suspects Lichtmann and Ackerman, but you tend to go forth for some laid back Delta. Why are you voting me? Oh I know. You think I'm [bleep] cause you made yourself scummy by cussing on others. In addition, I think your even more scummy by not claiming a role in 9 days after so many people including me told you to and people have to "guess" what your role is and what category you fit in. Thirdly, you are denying to vote up Ackerman and Lichtmann while the town is saying that they are scum. Even the Mayor said he was scum. Why do you deny this? Cause your scum.
I asked to lynch this guy 2 days ago. I think we should lynch him now. No role, he cusses others off, and he's rejecting the Mayor's suspicions. I just saw this [bleep]'s post and I don't like it. Pressure and hammer later.
FM Galloway

LOLOLOL look at this scummy idiot. Come on he is obviously a hinderence to town. Please vote this guy because he has such a little chance to be town.
Also it should be obvious why I am voting ONLY green like I am. Come on think think think

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:06 AM
Think about getting up it's pointless.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:06 AM
Think about eating it's pointless.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:06 AM
Think about dressing it's pointless.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:06 AM
Think about speaking it's pointless.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:07 AM
Think about dying only it's totally fucking pointless.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:09 AM
I'd say your blackmailed but your obviously only trying to be a hindering little [bleep] wanting to create more useless [bleep] spam.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:12 AM
No. I said those phrases on purpose just to reflect on our current situation. That's how pointless our game is now.

If you'd like, I can pick up more famous phrases from Colmyer if you want.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:13 AM
15 people,
Worst case scenario is 3 Mafia, 4 savages, 1 witch, a student turned mafia or corrupt journalist,. 9 scum vs 6 town.

I'm gonna go ahead and confirm that there is not a student turned mafia or a corrupt journalist. Also Green is scummy.



No. I said those phrases on purpose just to reflect on our current situation. That's how pointless our game is now.

If you'd like, I can pick up more famous phrases from Colmyer if you want.

Its a losing battle for town. They just need to decide who they want to win. Savage or Mafia.
I could care less personally. I got what I came for.
However I'd love green to be dead. he is scummy as [bleep]

FM Ackerman
June 10th, 2013, 12:16 AM
I concur with ryan, as for why I lied, it was to protect our idiot escort who outed himself before giving everyone a day to out feedback. I would have been cleared without his reveal, but now that the mayor is dead because she wouldn't trust her gut nothing matters anyways.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:17 AM
You're the same as me then, right? We're in the same boat, which in now slowly sinking. We both accused Lichtmann of being scum, thought I would make a second thought if he claimed himself doctor earlier.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:18 AM
Heading to bed now everyone. Green is scummy and good night

FM Ackerman
June 10th, 2013, 12:18 AM
Clarification for Parkers sake, I used logic to decided between Earle and Buchwalter look where it got me, my gut told me earle wouldn't lie, logic dictated otherwise. Sometimes you have to just go with it even if it doesn't make an fucking sense.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:18 AM
Give good reason for green and I'll switch.

FM Ackerman
June 10th, 2013, 12:19 AM
Oh I did, the moment he said he was doc my gut told me everything, he was looking scummy to stay alive.

FM Ackerman
June 10th, 2013, 12:20 AM
FM Donnelly
Peace, I'm out for the next 24ish hours.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:21 AM
Let's just end this game faster, shall we? I don't want to see another 48 hour long day. 24 hours should be enough for this madness.

FM Green

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:22 AM
Last message I promise

@Kalou

Look for it yourself. I really don't care but Green is scummy and needs to go.


@Ackerman

Stop QQing and bragging about how you knew something was something as true but decided not to try helping out the guy being threatened and letting him die.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:25 AM
Oh yeah, I just remembered something... Parker said to us that someone was probably trying to manipulate his votes.

Do you really think that he was manipulated to lynch Lichtmann? Or that was his own misjudgment?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:27 AM
I hope the rest of the town will Lynch ackerman. Being vague and derailing got lichtman lynched, gallo

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:40 AM
I would like Mendez and Donnelly's input too

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:42 AM
@Kalou

Are you kidding me? It is barely 1 hour into the day and you are accusing me of "derailing" a lynch train? Are you stupid? Lets evaluate something


I don't understand your reasoning. We're talking about the prime suspects Lichtmann and Ackerman, but you tend to go forth for some laid back Delta. Why are you voting me? Oh I know. You think I'm [bleep] cause you made yourself scummy by cussing on others. In addition, I think your even more scummy by not claiming a role in 9 days after so many people including me told you to and people have to "guess" what your role is and what category you fit in. Thirdly, you are denying to vote up Ackerman and Lichtmann while the town is saying that they are scum. Even the Mayor said he was scum. Why do you deny this? Cause your scum.
I asked to lynch this guy 2 days ago. I think we should lynch him now. No role, he cusses others off, and he's rejecting the Mayor's suspicions. I just saw this 's post and I don't like it. Pressure and hammer later.
[B]-vote FM Galloway

First he says that we are talking about Lichtmann and Ackerman and that I vote Ryan, completely ignoring the fact that Mayor had asked me to vote for Ryan to keep things balanced so he could hammer anyone he wanted in the scum train and also ignoring that he himself decided to vote for an aggressive player instead of the "prime suspects" of Lichty and Ackermann. This is a soft scum slip contradiction. It is made when scum try and discredit someone they suspect to be town/against their faction knowing they have to heavily make their target look like a fool in order to accomplish that task of lynchin them. Then he continues on to say that he does not realize why I am voting him when I generalized it into a post where I voted him in the first place. This is also a soft scum slip as it is made when scum try and make their target look like a moron without a clue what they are doing. He ignores the post I made and instead tries to twist the situation around to make him look better than he really is. He proceeds to bring up the fabrication that I had not claimed a role in 9 days when this is an utter lie. I privately claimed to the mayor and he outed what I claimed to him, misunderstanding everything I said to him in the first place. This is a lie that scum make when they need to discredit someone in a good light. I've made noone guess me role as no one ever tried to guess what I am. Thats a fact of the game there and his continual poking at that is only another attempt at discrediting and twisting the situation in his favor. He returns to the fabrication that I stubbornly denied to follow the town's direction of voting their suspects when the truth is that the mayor asked me to vote for Ryan which was in the towns direction in the first place. Another lie and twist of the truth, AKA Scum method of discredit. Town's do not need to do this and only scum do. He again says we should lynch this guy because of, no role (Lie as I claimed to Mayor), cussing (Which is not even a valid lynch reason), and "rejecting" what the mayor said (Lie as I followed the mayors orders).

Just this post alone and it contains at least three scum slips which I have highlighted for easy viewing. Perhaps now you understand why Green is scum.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:43 AM
I'm sorry for not being utterly honest about leaving. Its a spur of the moment thing anyways.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 12:48 AM
@Kalou

Are you kidding me? It is barely 1 hour into the day and you are accusing me of "derailing" a lynch train? Are you stupid? Lets evaluate something



First he says that we are talking about Lichtmann and Ackerman and that I vote Ryan, completely ignoring the fact that Mayor had asked me to vote for Ryan to keep things balanced so he could hammer anyone he wanted in the scum train and also ignoring that he himself decided to vote for an aggressive player instead of the "prime suspects" of Lichty and Ackermann. This is a soft scum slip contradiction. It is made when scum try and discredit someone they suspect to be town/against their faction knowing they have to heavily make their target look like a fool in order to accomplish that task of lynchin them. Then he continues on to say that he does not realize why I am voting him when I generalized it into a post where I voted him in the first place. This is also a soft scum slip as it is made when scum try and make their target look like a moron without a clue what they are doing. He ignores the post I made and instead tries to twist the situation around to make him look better than he really is. He proceeds to bring up the fabrication that I had not claimed a role in 9 days when this is an utter lie. I privately claimed to the mayor and he outed what I claimed to him, misunderstanding everything I said to him in the first place. This is a lie that scum make when they need to discredit someone in a good light. I've made noone guess me role as no one ever tried to guess what I am. Thats a fact of the game there and his continual poking at that is only another attempt at discrediting and twisting the situation in his favor. He returns to the fabrication that I stubbornly denied to follow the town's direction of voting their suspects when the truth is that the mayor asked me to vote for Ryan which was in the towns direction in the first place. Another lie and twist of the truth, AKA Scum method of discredit. Town's do not need to do this and only scum do. He again says we should lynch this guy because of, no role (Lie as I claimed to Mayor), cussing (Which is not even a valid lynch reason), and "rejecting" what the mayor said (Lie as I followed the mayors orders).

Just this post alone and it contains at least three scum slips which I have highlighted for easy viewing. Perhaps now you understand why Green is scum.

You're telling me, you PMed the Mayor your role? Isn't that illegal? Mods?

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:52 AM
You're telling me, you PMed the Mayor your role? Isn't that illegal? Mods?

He has admitted that he cares very little to reading the day chat. This is another sign that Green is not town. Additionally he has soft requested that a player get modkilled even though that player is likely to not be either a savage or a mafia based on their history of votes and posts. This is another sign of not being town.
The reason for this is because every townie has a need for the day chat. there is nothing more important to a townie than the day chat. A scum however does not need it. Since Green has admitted he cares little to reading day chat he must have something else to capture his attention, such as a night chat. His seeking of a modkill on this type of player is a desperate act that most town players would not try to take however scum benefit greatly from it.

Two more scum slips in another post.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:54 AM
Sorry maybe a wrong choice of words. From my perspective however, it just looks like your fosing someone that's fosing you and calling you names.
--
(After read of long post)
That makes a lot more sense. I didn't really look at his posts that closely as I look at him as a replacement who's just skimming the game. But you've since outright claimed and I see the scum slips, but I still see him as second to Ackerman.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 12:57 AM
Sorry maybe a wrong choice of words. From my perspective however, it just looks like your fosing someone that's fosing you and calling you names.
--
(After read of long post)
That makes a lot more sense. I didn't really look at his posts that closely as I look at him as a replacement who's just skimming the game. But you've since outright claimed and I see the scum slips, but I still see him as second to Ackerman.

Yeah no I understand how it looks. I am just in a very bad mood because of RL things and it effected me here. Im trying to stay calm and be more understandable. Its defiantly not a FoS because of FoS. Green is legit scummy.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 12:58 AM
This is the face of Miss Parker after the doctor was lynched:

http://imageshack.us/scaled/medium/844/shockface.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/shockface.jpg/)

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 01:01 AM
Ackermann has also claimed to not be town in his recent posts as well. I'd vote him if it weren't for a lot of things thats I am privy to, such as Green's posts and Ackermann being at least able to communicate with town at an understandable level while Green refuses too.

If it came down to a hammer on Ackermann or Green I would go with Green strictly because in the coming days all he is going to do is focus on one person and derail everything else.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 01:06 AM
I really need to go to bed now. Just remember that Green will be actively trying to twist the facts of the situation in his favor and is not above outright lying about things to accomplish this goal. Take his posts with a grain of salt and use the basis I have just given you to evaluate his posts properly in order to not be confused by his attempts. Also I shouldn't have to say this but keep the entire day despite what Ryan says. There is a reason why days are 48 hours in this game, use them as much as you can.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 01:11 AM
Yeah no I understand how it looks. I am just in a very bad mood because of RL things and it effected me here. Im trying to stay calm and be more understandable. Its defiantly not a FoS because of FoS. Green is legit scummy.

i hope everythings okay irl.
which reminds me. i cant post too much anymore as this is finals week for me. will be done by friday and good to participate afterward guilt free.


I really need to go to bed now. Just remember that Green will be actively trying to twist the facts of the situation in his favor and is not above outright lying about things to accomplish this goal. Take his posts with a grain of salt and use the basis I have just given you to evaluate his posts properly in order to not be confused by his attempts. Also I shouldn't have to say this but keep the entire day despite what Ryan says. There is a reason why days are 48 hours in this game, use them as much as you can.

+1 scum points for ryan for suggesting it.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 01:19 AM
I really need to go to bed now. Just remember that Green will be actively trying to twist the facts of the situation in his favor and is not above outright lying about things to accomplish this goal. Take his posts with a grain of salt and use the basis I have just given you to evaluate his posts properly in order to not be confused by his attempts. Also I shouldn't have to say this but keep the entire day despite what Ryan says. There is a reason why days are 48 hours in this game, use them as much as you can.

I really don't understand your purpose. Is it to **** some person over? Are you a real-life contract assassin? Why are you hating so much, when two suspects are right in front of your face? You are crap. I'm just gonna say that. You are scum.

FM Ackerman

Someone hammer later.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 01:22 AM
He has admitted that he cares very little to reading the day chat. This is another sign that Green is not town. Additionally he has soft requested that a player get modkilled even though that player is likely to not be either a savage or a mafia based on their history of votes and posts. This is another sign of not being town.
The reason for this is because every townie has a need for the day chat. there is nothing more important to a townie than the day chat. A scum however does not need it. Since Green has admitted he cares little to reading day chat he must have something else to capture his attention, such as a night chat. His seeking of a modkill on this type of player is a desperate act that most town players would not try to take however scum benefit greatly from it.

Two more scum slips in another post.

Like I said, everyone here has lives. Like Kalou who takes the time to study for the fkin finals where people like you lay back, skip classes, thinks that all teachers are douchebags. I have a life rather than reading EVERY SINGLE WORD BEING SAID. If you were to put that effort in doing your Geometry, I bet you that you'd be in the top 50% of your occupation/school/college whatever.

FM Fontaine
June 10th, 2013, 01:35 AM
Nothing happened to me last night.

And also I have been on holiday, so I will give a full explanation later on, in about 12 hours.

Thank you

FM Leary
June 10th, 2013, 01:41 AM
Can someone do a numbers crunch so we can see how town fares in winning?

We lost, at least going by 2 scum kpn. I won't run it down for you, but even if we manage to lynch a scum everyday, we will eventually perish faster than they will, assuming they are at max capacity (student DD, all savage recruits successful)

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 01:43 AM
I really don't understand your purpose. Is it to **** some person over? Are you a real-life contract assassin? Why are you hating so much, when two suspects are right in front of your face? You are crap. I'm just gonna say that. You are scum.

FM Ackerman

Someone hammer later.

Stop beeing so scummy please.

Fm Green

FM Leary
June 10th, 2013, 01:44 AM
I like green as the witch more than any other random scum. Since the game is fucking lost anyway i'll just go with
FM Green

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 02:30 AM
I've got three scummies and one town on me. Who wants to add?

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 02:53 AM
I've got three scummies and one town on me. Who wants to add?

Maybe you should contribute by telling uss who the 3 scums is and who the townie is. Give uss a read of all the players that are voting on you.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:30 AM
Scums

Leary
Ryan
Galloway

Town

Rose

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:33 AM
Leary had a bad defense and claimed the most common role, I'm not buying that with the s**** defense and how he got mad all of a sudden in Day 7 where the Mayor directed me to.
Ryan is the guy that the Mayor wanted to pressure, and now since he's joining a train with Galloway, he seems like crap.
Galloway is the guy that keeps trying to change the prime suspect to me, just cause I know that Galloway is scum. I'm sure he's a Savage by the way he's trying to redirect all the votes to me.

If this is wrong, then fine. Lynch me, and lose another Town. Then you'll definitely lose.

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 03:59 AM
if we want to kill 100% scum we lynch green. but we cant just lynch any scum we need to lynch the right scum. killing savage gf will stop recruiting and kill half remaining savages. gallow and rose look town while ryan is my sgf suspect, pushing a lynch on mafia.

that being said, im not gonna vote before all players have checked in and we've heard fontaines story. ryan pushing for early day is highly suspicious.

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 04:04 AM
ADDENDUM
lynching sgf is just one strategy, i understand lynching another mafia to force scum to fight each other at night is a viable option too.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 04:58 AM
Another scummy person has come forth to lynch me. Any other scummy people listed by the Mayor wanna come forth?

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 05:16 AM
I have to go to work, so I don't have much time to post now and won't have time to post for another ~10 hours or so. I just wanted to quickly let everyone know that nothing happened to me last night.

Before I go, I'd like to remind everyone that Ackerman claimed he was not roleblocked last night even though Mason said she targeted him. The theory yesterday was that he was feedback blocked, but since both Parker and Lichtman claimed witched, and we know they were both town and had no reason to lie about it, one of them must have been a drugged, which means the drug dealer could not have also blocked feedback to Ackerman on the same night. So Ackerman was probably lying about the roleblock and is a probable scum. Also he seems to be tunneling me for some reason. Just putting that out there.

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 05:18 AM
I have to go to work, so I don't have much time to post now and won't have time to post for another ~10 hours or so. I just wanted to quickly let everyone know that nothing happened to me last night.

Before I go, I'd like to remind everyone that Ackerman claimed he was not roleblocked last night even though Mason said she targeted him. The theory yesterday was that he was feedback blocked, but since both Parker and Lichtman claimed witched, and we know they were both town and had no reason to lie about it, one of them must have been a drugged, which means the drug dealer could not have also blocked feedback to Ackerman on the same night. So Ackerman was probably lying about the roleblock and is a probable scum. Also he seems to be tunneling me for some reason. Just putting that out there.

Sorry, when I say last night, I mean the night before yesterday. Night 8. Not the most recent night. Still groggy.

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 05:19 AM
Sorry, when I say last night, I mean the night before yesterday. Night 8. Not the most recent night. Still groggy.

Regarding Ackerman, that is. When I said "nothing happened to me last night", that was referring to the most recent night. I'm going to be great at work today, guys. Ok. Goodbye for now.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 05:41 AM
I can see victory! I'm thankful that I REALLY rolled Corrupt Journalist. Gonna win this with the Witch!

Mafia is gonna lose if they don't find the Savage GF today. Killing Savages or Town alone won't net you victory you know.


Godfather
Blackmailer
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden Savage]
[Hidden Savage]
Corrupt Journalist - Earle
Mason Enforcer
Escort
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Witch

Some tips to keep the game interesting...

Savage Godfather previously recruits town-like intelligent players - possible new recruits are ???. Might switch to lurkers now since Deltas revealed. Analyzer among Savages. Likely if we observe Savage Godfather's recruiting pattern. Initial best strategy is to lurk and reduce number of post to prevent leakage of signs of intelligence. ??? are suspects.

Mafia is straightforward. Clean attacks. Safe players with lame strategies. Mafia actions were messy meaning non-centralized command leading to obvious buddying during the day. Check lynch train on ???.

Witch. My friend. Reveal I will not.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 05:44 AM
Don't really care if I die already as long as scum perform a thorough clean up of Town.

Leave NONE alive!!!

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 05:56 AM
With Blackmailer and DD, Mafia can coerce 2 additional votes from Town or Savages.

Savages are able to offer we will convert all of you before winning to remaining town.

I wonder what will happen.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 05:58 AM
The Witch and I hold the fort by keeping additional two votes. We hold the key to scum victory!

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 06:00 AM
The Witch and I hold the fort by keeping additional two votes. We hold the key to scum victory!

Who is the witch? I'ts not like he's going to be lynched anyway.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:03 AM
FM Ackerman - Mason Enforcer
FM Chapman
FM Donnelly
FM Earle - Corrupt Journalist
FM Fontaine - Delta
FM Galletta - Delta
FM Galloway - Delta
FM Green - Delta
FM Kalou
FM Kelso
FM Leary
FM Mason - Escort/Consort
FM Mendez
FM Rose - Delta
FM Ryan - Delta

Intel is important for informed night actions. Kill the right people to victory!

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:04 AM
Who is the witch? I'ts not like he's going to be lynched anyway.

Dunno. Unless Town go down by two, I don't think Witch might not reveal. Only if there is a chance Witch will get shot tonight. Then reveal Witch will.

FM Leary
June 10th, 2013, 06:08 AM
I can see victory! I'm thankful that I REALLY rolled Corrupt Journalist. Gonna win this with the Witch!

Mafia is gonna lose if they don't find the Savage GF today. Killing Savages or Town alone won't net you victory you know.



Some tips to keep the game interesting...

Savage Godfather previously recruits town-like intelligent players - possible new recruits are ???. Might switch to lurkers now since Deltas revealed. Analyzer among Savages. Likely if we observe Savage Godfather's recruiting pattern. Initial best strategy is to lurk and reduce number of post to prevent leakage of signs of intelligence. ??? are suspects.

Mafia is straightforward. Clean attacks. Safe players with lame strategies. Mafia actions were messy meaning non-centralized command leading to obvious buddying during the day. Check lynch train on ???.

Witch. My friend. Reveal I will not.
claims savage journalist
this gambit is retarded if we take the DD Student for granted. Mafia fucking knows that you can't be epsilon then, town lost anyway, so you're just trying to get under the radar for no reason.
Last post i make since my team lost and i'm not gonna bother with the mafia/savage daychat powerstruggle
I'd advise for the rest of the town to suicide as well, we have virtually no chance of winning, + you're just wasting your time as is.
Oh ye, mafia was trash but given their powerroles they should be facerolling savages in the upcoming ~2 day-night cycles.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:10 AM
Since town lost, do you want to offer yourself as Savage recruits? I will be the middleman. Hope that Mafia will fail kill your Savage GF on time before your team reach critical mass. Better than confirmed losing as town don't you think?

Mafia should take this as kill two birds with one stone. Kill a Savage, Town down by one. Hey, if Savages fail in recruiting, you might even thin out their numbers!

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:13 AM
claims savage journalist
this gambit is retarded if we take the DD Student for granted. Mafia fucking knows that you can't be epsilon then, town lost anyway, so you're just trying to get under the radar for no reason.
Last post i make since my team lost and i'm not gonna bother with the mafia/savage daychat powerstruggle
I'd advise for the rest of the town to suicide as well, we have virtually no chance of winning, + you're just wasting your time as is.
Oh ye, mafia was trash but given their powerroles they should be facerolling savages in the upcoming ~2 day-night cycles.

Hey you can consider winning as Savages! Not too late. But not that I care. Kekekeke.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:13 AM
I'd advise for the rest of the town to suicide as well, we have virtually no chance of winning, + you're just wasting your time as is.


Waiting for your suicide.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:18 AM
Why no article was published today? You tried to interview Parker, who lost any motivation to post it?

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 06:23 AM
I wont suicide. Savages can recruit me if they wish.
Town can still win if we keep lynching mafia members. The mafia will be forced to attack savage members and if we are lucky they will be able to kill the savage godfather.

I really don't think green or ackerman is mafia.

My current mafia suspects are:

Fm Donelly
Fm Galloway
Fm Fontaine
Fm chapman
Fm Ryan

Fm Chapman

Im surprised this guy hasn't been lynched yet.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:25 AM
Why no article was published today? You tried to interview Parker, who lost any motivation to post it?

I will deny you the answer. And let you rack your brain to no conclusion. Yes I am that evil.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 06:27 AM
I recommend lynching the lurkers. Lurking is not the way to victory.

BTW I'm no lurker.

Deciding which lurker to vote up. Hmm...

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:27 AM
I agree that the best course of the game for survivors is to side out with Savages. However, they are only limited by 6 members, which means that if they have 4, only 2 of then needs to be converted by Savage Godfather. Of couse this means you have to betray town Escort and Enforcer as well.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:32 AM
How about this method then? One of the Savages can reveal himself to us and point us out 2-3 players who are NOT the savages.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 06:39 AM
How about this method then? One of the Savages can reveal himself to us and point us out 2-3 players who are NOT the savages.

Agreed, i would expect them to have at least 2 power roles with night results. Probably a sheriff or another investigator. Finding the mafia would be easy if 1 of them revealed since they would gain nothing from trying to misslynch a townie.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:42 AM
So you agree with the plan, Rose? We then only need to find 3 Mafia and the game will end in 3, or even 2 days. This scenario will end with 10 people winning:

6 Savages
2 dead savages (Morgan and Ballard)
1 Witch
1 Corrupt Journaist

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 06:44 AM
I wont suicide. Savages can recruit me if they wish.
Town can still win if we keep lynching mafia members. The mafia will be forced to attack savage members and if we are lucky they will be able to kill the savage godfather.

I really don't think green or ackerman is mafia.

My current mafia suspects are:

Fm Donelly
Fm Galloway
Fm Fontaine
Fm chapman
Fm Ryan

Fm Chapman

Im surprised this guy hasn't been lynched yet.

i agree. if you check yesterday chat i begged mayor to hammer chapman. hes 100% maf in not gf. his vote pattern has been pro mafia, abstaining from both maf lynches and jumping lichtmann train.

still waiting for some ppl

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:45 AM
Among those 10 people, 8 of then are still alive. And we have 15 people out here.

So those 8 people can gain a complete majority over anyone else. An alliance of Savages + remaining deltas + witch and journalist is nothing to scoff at.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 06:45 AM
So you agree with the plan, Rose? We then only need to find 3 Mafia and the game will end in 3, or even 2 days. This scenario will end with 10 people winning:

6 Savages
2 dead savages (Morgan and Ballard)
1 Witch
1 Corrupt Journaist

I would prefer it if the mafia killed the savage godfather but i wouldn't mind winning as a savage. Are you claiming witch?

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:47 AM
Why yes, in fact I am the witch.

FM Leary
June 10th, 2013, 06:49 AM
I wont suicide. Savages can recruit me if they wish.
Town can still win if we keep lynching mafia members. The mafia will be forced to attack savage members and if we are lucky they will be able to kill the savage godfather.

I really don't think green or ackerman is mafia.

My current mafia suspects are:

Fm Donelly
Fm Galloway
Fm Fontaine
Fm chapman
Fm Ryan

Fm Chapman

Im surprised this guy hasn't been lynched yet.
that possibility was lost once we MYLO-d the day before. Also why are you suddenly picking up my strategies after town lost all possibilities of winning. The mayor votes were the key for victory, yet my futile intentions to give us a running chance were smashed once we didn't go for the 100% scum. I'm bored of explaining and since my last exam for the completion of my BA is on wednesday i won't be bothering to teach you kids how thinking games like FMs should be played.
@ creed: Developmental psychology 1 + 2 collective oral examination. Our Final examination is just a presentation of a research project we had to conduct individually + talking about what we gained in these 3 years of the BA curriculum.
Lea(D)ry out

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 06:52 AM
Why yes, in fact I am the witch.

not that i dont believe you, but now is the time for anyone to cc this

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 06:52 AM
that possibility was lost once we MYLO-d the day before. Also why are you suddenly picking up my strategies after town lost all possibilities of winning. The mayor votes were the key for victory, yet my futile intentions to give us a running chance were smashed once we didn't go for the 100% scum. I'm bored of explaining and since my last exam for the completion of my BA is on wednesday i won't be bothering to teach you kids how thinking games like FMs should be played.
@ creed: Developmental psychology 1 + 2 collective oral examination. Our Final examination is just a presentation of a research project we had to conduct individually + talking about what we gained in these 3 years of the BA curriculum.
Lea(D)ry out

We can win if the town lynches mafia members and the mafia responds by killing savages. There is also a small chance that earle is a real journalist.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:54 AM
I can tell you a quite interesting story. Will you listen to me?

Earle was witched on Night 5, and he can confirm that.

FM Mason
June 10th, 2013, 06:54 AM
Why yes, in fact I am the witch.

Mean.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 06:56 AM
Like I said, everyone here has lives. Like Kalou who takes the time to study for the fkin finals where people like you lay back, skip classes, thinks that all teachers are douchebags. I have a life rather than reading EVERY SINGLE WORD BEING SAID. If you were to put that effort in doing your Geometry, I bet you that you'd be in the top 50% of your occupation/school/college whatever.

This logic is bad. I am currently taking summer classes along with my full time job and still manage to post more than other players. I just hopped on a computer before class starts. I don't have access to my notes currently so I will have to go off memory and gut feelings for now.

Lichtmann flipping doc was very bad for us. I suspect then scum in this game to be hiding amongst the lurkers.

I am currently thinking about Earle and the lack of article being posted yesterday.
Reasoning - Claimed to be interviewing the Mayor yesterday in day chat. No interview or last will. I suspect two things. His Wifom as corrupt journalist / town journalist actually baited the Savages into converting him. My theory-

Savages attempted to convert Earle as a convert as. Since Earle was actually a corrupt journalist aka hidden epsilon, it converted him to a regular savage and removed his ability to publish articles. That being said, Earle is not a good lynch for today. If i'm right he is just a Savage and has not any chances to show any buddying or distancing from the other savages.

If he is still here - I want your current reads on all the players and most specifically
Ryan
Green
Ackerman
Galloway
Leary

My current suspicions are on Ryan first and then Green. Green has not posted enough for me to get a good read on him. This pressure from Galloway, Ryan and Leary will hopefully reveal more from him.

@Green - Could you please post your reads on Leary, Ryan, Ackerman, Kalou and my theory of Earle being converted. I already know your opinion on Galloway.

@Ryan - Please reveal who you witched and for what reasons since you've already outed yourself. Lynching the Witch at this point will gain us nothing, we have to go after the Savages or the Mafia. Also your idea of having 6 savages + 2 dead savages is flawed. The Cult has a maximum size of 6, so the most cults there can be right now are 4.

Class starting, be back in a few hours

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 06:57 AM
I like you too, Mason. It was because of you I had to make the town to lynch Phelps. I was sure that he was the one who roleblocked me.

FM Mason
June 10th, 2013, 06:59 AM
I like you too, Mason. It was because of you I had to make the town to lynch Phelps. I was sure that he was the one who roleblocked me.

Nu. It was me. Who are you controlling tonight?

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 07:04 AM
Who knows? It's a secret. But maybe it's time to tell you my past night actions, right?

Here are they, in short summary:

n1:-witch Biggs onto Cohen
n2:-witch Biggs onto Morgan
n3:-witch Morgan to Cafarelli
n4:-...

Yes, I was replaced after that point.

n5:-Witch Earle to Black
n6:-witch Monroe onto Hogeboom
n7:-witch Parker to target Ryan - roleblocked
n8:-witch Parker to target Lichtmann
n9:-witch Mason to target Parker

FM Mason
June 10th, 2013, 07:06 AM
Why would you make me block the mayor. That's silly.

FM Kelso
June 10th, 2013, 07:07 AM
Can't post a lot since I'm working right now (As usual)

First, nothing hapenned to me.

Second, Am I the only one that think that Green is really the witch?
Ryan claiming witch is to buy him some time as GF/SGF because our priority is to lynch the GF/SGF.
Labelling himself as witch help him surviving longer.
Also, Green, AKA the witch, will not counter claim him because scum help scum you know.

That's what I think at least. But could be pretty much possible.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 07:07 AM
Why would you make me block the mayor. That's silly.

Maybe the mayor was secretly a veteran

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 07:09 AM
Maybe the mayor was secretly a veteran

maybe he knew mayor would die and wanted to make a rb disappear?

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 07:10 AM
Whan makes you think that I am not the real witch, Kelso? Use your mind. Why no one ever suspected me as the witch? For what reason?

Alos, what if Mason was actually not an escort and Mafia killing role instead. So did that with this idea in mind.

FM Mason
June 10th, 2013, 07:12 AM
Oh my god. I killed the mayor.

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 07:13 AM
thats not nice :(

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 07:15 AM
I wonder if the mayor regrets his decision to not lynch ryan.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 07:16 AM
If you have not noticed, I gained a good amount of trust from Miss Parker back at day 8. So the reason she chose to lynch Lichtmann is because she believed in my "story" more than his.

You can actually say that I manipulated her to vote Lichtmann in the end.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 07:17 AM
If you have not noticed, I gained a good amount of trust from Miss Parker back at day 8. So the reason she chose to lynch Lichtmann is because she believed in my "story" more than his.

You can actually say that I manipulated her to vote Lichtmann in the end.

That explains why you witched parker into litchtman during night 8

FM Kelso
June 10th, 2013, 07:17 AM
Whan makes you think that I am not the real witch, Kelso? Use your mind. Why no one ever suspected me as the witch? For what reason?

Alos, what if Mason was actually not an escort and Mafia killing role instead. So did that with this idea in mind.

Tha fact that Green scum sliped witch after being replaced.
OR, Green is a random scum and tried to protect you, the real witch?

I'm just throwing idea right now so we can discuss about it.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 07:19 AM
And I was not the only one pushing for Lichtmann lynch. The Mafia and Savages did it as well. I even know the name of a real mastermind there. Not going to tell that name, becuase ya can find it out for yourself if you are smart enough!

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 07:24 AM
That explains why you witched parker into litchtman during night 8

Oh no, I was sure that Lichtmann was one of the savages, so I wanted him to give the soma to Savage GF to gain an upper hand against Mafia. But Parker backed off and chose not to pass soma, so I changed my strategy to lynch Lichtmann, to show the town that I'm not one of the Savages.

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 07:29 AM
godfather chapman
soma dealer green
soma dealer donnelly
sgf ackerman? galloway?
hidden epsilon earle?
hidden mason
hidden galloway?
hidden ackerman?
hidden ballard dead savage
hidden fontaine?
delta galletta
delta rose
delta leary converted
delta mendez?
delta kelso?
delta kalou?
witch ryan

this is how i see it

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 07:36 AM
I also want to confess my sins!

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 07:37 AM
as ryan said, if savages want an alliance with deltas, a savage will have to confirm the identity of the remaining mafia.

now would be the time for claims.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 07:41 AM
Time to chant the phrase "You do not have the NUMBERS to lynch me!!!"

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 07:59 AM
Time to chant the phrase "You do not have the NUMBERS to lynch me!!!"

I don't think you are a corrupt journalist.

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 08:48 AM
And I was not the only one pushing for Lichtmann lynch. The Mafia and Savages did it as well. I even know the name of a real mastermind there. Not going to tell that name, becuase ya can find it out for yourself if you are smart enough!

based on your vote and what happened yesterday, do you consider galloway to be that mastermind?

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 09:26 AM
Who knows? It's a secret. But maybe it's time to tell you my past night actions, right?

Here are they, in short summary:

n1:-witch Biggs onto Cohen
n2:-witch Biggs onto Morgan
n3:-witch Morgan to Cafarelli
n4:-...

Yes, I was replaced after that point.

n5:-Witch Earle to Black
n6:-witch Monroe onto Hogeboom
n7:-witch Parker to target Ryan - roleblocked
n8:-witch Parker to target Lichtmann
n9:-witch Mason to target Parker

Witch acts before the Escort/Consort. I'm guessing Parker chose not to pass Soma on n7 as well since you have only acted once.

Lurkers have no reason to respond to me. Ryan being a Witch that targeted poorly means he has no idea who the Mafia/Savages are. The feedback on Lichtmann and Galloway were drugged Witch feedbacks then I can assume.

Ok Ryan. We can use you, we need to lynch Mafia to force them to attack Savages. You want to side with Savages. Who are your actual suspects for Mafia? Not the neutral opinion reads from yesterday.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 09:30 AM
A Savage journalist would be a lynch target or mafia target, Earle. You should claim your roleblock if you were last night. Earle doesn't want people think Earle is not corrupt journalist. Confirming Ryan as Witch would be good too.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 09:32 AM
And because Green has still not answered my question -

FM Green

Ryan is not a priority lynch for today. Our goal is to find the SGF or any of the Mafia.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 09:49 AM
I hate this stage in the game when scum come out. I get too into the game I think.
At any rate,are we siding with the savages? Mafia killed the mayor and Some of us can/(coould already be converted) to a win depending on how fail the sgf has been at recruiting...

FM Kelso
June 10th, 2013, 09:51 AM
My vote is on Green too until he counter claim Ryan.

FM Green

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 09:53 AM
Green is not the witch. I can confirm that too.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 09:56 AM
I don't believe Ryan is witch either.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 09:58 AM
Earle. There is no way that hosts put in two corrupt Journalists.

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 09:58 AM
By the way, I am actually not on any side. I proposed the plan, but that doesn't mean that Mafia can outsmart your ass on it.

The only one who I will be probably controlling tonight is Mason, so that she will not mess with night actions of anyone else.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 10:11 AM
By the way, I am actually not on any side. I proposed the plan, but that doesn't mean that Mafia can outsmart your ass on it.

The only one who I will be probably controlling tonight is Mason, so that she will not mess with night actions of anyone else.
As I said before your plan counts that the Savages can convert until 6 members which is not the case. Savages have a max of 6. Also I am believing your Witch claim because of the Biggs witching. It makes sense for him to witch twice to confirm him as the poisoner. Got trolled by the arson though.


@Kalou, the Witch came out because he is not going to be lynched by either scum faction. Until Savages or Mafia come out we don't really have anything to go off of. I am curious why Earle wouldn't be the savage spokeperson since he obviously was converted or chose not to interview.

I can't see any reason why Parker would decline the interview so Earle is key and definitely knows what happened there.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 10:22 AM
Saying this before Mafia or Savages try to end day early by hammering Green

Anyone hammering early will be the biggest scum in my eyes. We need to put pressure on players, but lynching before day is over is a good way to make yourself get lynched the next day.

Green is at L-3. That's plenty of pressure for him to defend against the accusations and make reads.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 10:23 AM
1. Corrupt Journalist -> visited X -> converted -> no interview
2. Corrupt Journalist -> chose not to interview
3. Journalist (any) -> visited X -> roleblocked -> no interview
4. Journalist (any) -> visited X -> declined interview
5. Corrupt Journalist -> claimed blackmailed -> became Jester

Such a great role. Infinite WIFOM possibilities.

FM Chapman
June 10th, 2013, 10:24 AM
Someone put the following in green, please:

Were the [bleep]s in the death note added by a host or the author?

Mendez and, to a lesser extent, Galloway, are the only players I trust as town at the moment.

You know how Ackerman keeps saying "I believed Earle the whole time"? Yeah, uh, he didn't and was pushing the train against him even after his claim.

I have a feeling Green is scum but L-3 is too close IMO already. Plus I'm second guessing myself all over the damn place. Apparently everything I view as a scumtell is actually nothing of the sort...

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 10:26 AM
Such a great role. Infinite WIFOM possibilities.

No WIFOM. You are Savage Journalist or Savage by now. Simple facts of life :3

FM Chapman
June 10th, 2013, 10:28 AM
People who think I'm scum: What faction/role am I and why?

Galloway: Your opinion on me and Mendez?

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 10:30 AM
People who think I'm scum: What faction/role am I and why?

Galloway: Your opinion on me and Mendez?

Both of you are probably deltas. While I could see either of you getting savage'd by now its unlikely that both of you are town so whoever is still a delta means the other is a savage. Mafia right now are probably gonna be the ones who lurk to not attract attention here.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 10:31 AM
As I said before your plan counts that the Savages can convert until 6 members which is not the case. Savages have a max of 6. Also I am believing your Witch claim because of the Biggs witching. It makes sense for him to witch twice to confirm him as the poisoner. Got trolled by the arson though.


Whoever thinks that the Savage GF couldn't recruit every night successfully in this kind of a setup needs to get their head checked. Its super easy for Savage GF to gain members here. Its easier than that guy getting an exe win in Cops and Robbers a while back.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 10:35 AM
Whoever thinks that the Savage GF couldn't recruit every night successfully in this kind of a setup needs to get their head checked. Its super easy for Savage GF to gain members here. Its easier than that guy getting an exe win in Cops and Robbers a while back.

You are saying best case scenario SIX SAVAGES today?

Greatest news ever.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 10:36 AM
Such a great role. Infinite WIFOM possibilities.

I've approved of your wifom as corrupt because it made Savages shy away from converting you. Today I am suspect though. Parker has no reason to decline the interview.

Journalist -> visit X -> roleblocked -> Dont reveal, look corrupt


@galloway - His plan was to keep converting until 6 memberes in cult, while they are now maxed at 4. No idea why people are thinking Savages can have 6 members with two in graveyard.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 10:38 AM
I've approved of your wifom as corrupt because it made Savages shy away from converting you. Today I am suspect though. Parker has no reason to decline the interview.

Journalist -> visit X -> roleblocked -> Dont reveal, look corrupt


@galloway - His plan was to keep converting until 6 memberes in cult, while they are now maxed at 4. No idea why people are thinking Savages can have 6 members with two in graveyard.

He is a savage Journy. It is literally impossible for savages not to jump on his [bleep] to induct him and gain a "trusted townie" while Parker lynched whomever and whomever he wanted. Unless the Savage GF is a [bleep] moron that is. And yes Savages are maxed at 4 today

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 10:42 AM
He is a savage Journy. It is literally impossible for savages not to jump on his [bleep] to induct him and gain a "trusted townie" while Parker lynched whomever and whomever he wanted. Unless the Savage GF is a [bleep] moron that is. And yes Savages are maxed at 4 today

Most likely. But he is of no threat. The SGF is a bigger priority. We could lynch him to try to see who tries to buddy/defend/derail, except it gives savages and mafia another night to act while we lynch a fairly useless savage.

FM Chapman
June 10th, 2013, 10:45 AM
I've approved of your wifom as corrupt because it made Savages shy away from converting you. Today I am suspect though. Parker has no reason to decline the interview.

Journalist -> visit X -> roleblocked -> Dont reveal, look corrupt


@galloway - His plan was to keep converting until 6 memberes in cult, while they are now maxed at 4. No idea why people are thinking Savages can have 6 members with two in graveyard.

Hypothesis:
Corrupt Journalist->tell town that Parker will be interviewed->Interview mafia->Say "Kill Parker and don't respond to interview->No interview->?????->Profit!

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 10:49 AM
Hypothesis:
Corrupt Journalist->tell town that Parker will be interviewed->Interview mafia->Say "Kill Parker and don't respond to interview->No interview->?????->Profit!

We could do this all day. Lol.

This would imply that Earle knows members of the Mafia, which I am unsure is possible since we all know exactly who he's been interviewing. So he has no extra information than we do.

Chapman you are one of the few I can trust was an original Delta. Who are your suspects for the Savage Godfather and Mafia?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 10:49 AM
Hypothesis:
Corrupt Journalist->tell town that Parker will be interviewed->Interview mafia->Say "Kill Parker and don't respond to interview->No interview->?????->Profit!

you cant give messages in interview.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 10:53 AM
LOL you guys are wasting time catching bottom feeding Savages. Stop the act please.

skip day

No meaning to drag it on anymore.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 10:55 AM
LOL you guys are wasting time catching bottom feeding Savages. Stop the act please.

skip day

No meaning to drag it on anymore.

Thank you for finally claiming something that you actually are.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 10:58 AM
LOL you guys are wasting time catching bottom feeding Savages. Stop the act please.

skip day

No meaning to drag it on anymore.
Why not just lynch Green to speed it up?

@Galloway

Why did you not vote for Lichtmann yesterday? It was a good choice but knowing his Com doesn't mean you would know his role and was needless derailing.

Why do you assume there is no student DD? There are too many missing feedback for there to be two DD's from the start.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 11:02 AM
Why not just lynch Green to speed it up?

@Galloway

Why did you not vote for Lichtmann yesterday? It was a good choice but knowing his Com doesn't mean you would know his role and was needless derailing.

Why do you assume there is no student DD? There are too many missing feedback for there to be two DD's from the start.

Its really simple and thanks to a few loopholes I can answer!
Parker showed that he was gonna go after the people who were so heavily anti him. That lead to me not even needing to vote for Lichty because I knew Parker would lynch him in my stead. Also. Parker asked me to vote for Ryan. So why not :)

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 11:05 AM
Its really simple and thanks to a few loopholes I can answer!
Parker showed that he was gonna go after the people who were so heavily anti him. That lead to me not even needing to vote for Lichty because I knew Parker would lynch him in my stead. Also. Parker asked me to vote for Ryan. So why not :)

Loopholes?

Anyways, if you think there is not a student DD who would the 2nd DD be from the start?

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 11:06 AM
you cant give messages in interview.

I think he meant the Mafia member says that to his team.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 11:06 AM
@Student DD

Its absolutely retarded to think that Mafia had anything other than a second DD with the flips in that graveyard. Its obvious that Mafia was based around deception and false feedbacks and that is only enhanced by a second DDer. Student turned DD is a poor man's attempt at role mining because its unlikely as [bleep].


---

Tisk tisk tisk mendez. don't ask don't tell.
Hmmm I'd think Ryan before he claimed witched and Kelso/Kalou seems to fit the bill enough for me.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 11:18 AM
To the hidden Mason Enforcer -

Do not reveal yourself except on the verge of being lynched. Continue targeting town Delta claimers and until Savages start killing again, keep using your soma for yourself. If Savages begin killing again we can assume they have reached max recruitment. Consider passing Soma to Mason, since a Witch can not control both of his actions afaik.
If a witch targets a power role using Soma, do all actions get redirected?

To Mason / not mason enforcer -
Sorry man Witch is gonna troll you til end of game until you die. Hopefully the Enforcer can pass you Soma so that you are still useful.

Galloway, I didn't ask about the loopholes. I just figured claiming a loophole means you are getting around something. Seems very borderline. Do not post more about it.


Others including Parker, assumed the Ackerman was the DD. Why is he not on your subjects?

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 11:20 AM
@Any town's left out there
Best interest is to vote Green.

@Savages
Please continue to skip day. Lets me know who is who.

@Mafia
lolololol poor bastards got roflstomped by out of control mayor and their own idiocy. *clap* *clap* *clap*

@Witch
While I am having to vote Green lets see what your own preferences are. Its not like their gonna kill you. Thats a wasted kill


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Ackermann is like a new player. Real easy to read. For example he is either a savage or a delta. We will find this out once Green is dead and gone. After all what does anyone have to lose with his death hmmmm? Only faction with something to lose right now is savages as mafia are battered and town is down and out from winning.

FM Mason
June 10th, 2013, 11:26 AM
By the way, I am actually not on any side. I proposed the plan, but that doesn't mean that Mafia can outsmart your ass on it.

The only one who I will be probably controlling tonight is Mason, so that she will not mess with night actions of anyone else.

Please ;-;

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 11:30 AM
@Any town's left out there
Best interest is to vote Green.

@Savages
Please continue to skip day. Lets me know who is who.

@Mafia
lolololol poor bastards got roflstomped by out of control mayor and their own idiocy. *clap* *clap* *clap*

@Witch
While I am having to vote Green lets see what your own preferences are. Its not like their gonna kill you. Thats a wasted kill


------

Ackermann is like a new player. Real easy to read. For example he is either a savage or a delta. We will find this out once Green is dead and gone. After all what does anyone have to lose with his death hmmmm? Only faction with something to lose right now is savages as mafia are battered and town is down and out from winning.

Noob mafia did that to themselves. Right now, the goal is to either keep lynching Mafia to hope they attack Savages OR guess at who the SGF is.

The choice is pretty simple in my eyes. 3 targets who make poor decisions that sacrifice three of their members or an obviously intelligent SGF based on the death note and the fact we haven't lynched any of the cult yet.

We hunt the Mafia, Mafia will be forced to attack Savages or gamethrow. We lay low and hopefully get a chance to gain a lynch majority. If we have any TPR's left stay hidden and hopefully you can save the game for us.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 11:34 AM
Please ;-;

Hi mason.

Can I get your opinion on Schumacher Bane (Green) and Earle?

FM Ryan
June 10th, 2013, 11:34 AM
You can simply stay in house and do nothing. That way, no one else will be roleblocked. :)

FM Mason
June 10th, 2013, 11:48 AM
Hi mason.

Can I get your opinion on Schumacher Bane (Green) and Earle?

I'll stay in my house.

I always thought earle was just a delta that got converted to savage journalist on night 0.
Also I don't like green and he's scum but I don't know which scum.

FM Earle
June 10th, 2013, 12:01 PM
I prefer the lynch in this order: Fontaine, Green, Kelso, Chapman, Kalou.

They hardly posted. Bad precedent if they win and live!

FM Ferengi
June 10th, 2013, 12:03 PM
If a witch targets a power role using Soma, do all actions get redirected?

The witch redirects the first target: See FAQ#91

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 12:08 PM
I prefer the lynch in this order: Fontaine, Green, Kelso, Chapman, Kalou.

They hardly posted. Bad precedent if they win and live!

I agree. Fontaine is a good choice. He said today he would have a full explanation in 12 hours. It's been 14 hours since the post.


@Mason staying home is good. It gives you wifom protection as well, since they know you won't be doing anything the scums won't attack you.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 12:54 PM
I prefer the lynch in this order: Fontaine, Green, Kelso, Chapman, Kalou.

They hardly posted. Bad precedent if they win and live!

wtf earle, i have more posts than you, and i wasnt me for 3 days.
mendez, can you tell me about why green is best target? after mayor was semi set on ackerman?

and if your profile for savage gf being super analytical, those choices would be donelly, galloway, mendez in that order.
my belief is the savage gf is a lurker/replacement thats been trying to lie low, but is going 'anti-com' and not posting super analytical stuff to throw us off his trail.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 01:04 PM
wtf earle, i have more posts than you, and i wasnt me for 3 days.
mendez, can you tell me about why green is best target? after mayor was semi set on ackerman?

and if your profile for savage gf being super analytical, those choices would be donelly, galloway, mendez in that order.
my belief is the savage gf is a lurker/replacement thats been trying to lie low, but is going 'anti-com' and not posting super analytical stuff to throw us off his trail.

I wanna point out that the savage GF is highly unlikely to be the one to have posted that Death Note. It is extremely revealing and any cult leader worth his salt knows better than to practically out himself in a death note that basically says hey town we are not a threat even though we are actually a threat and you should hunt mafia and let us win.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 01:08 PM
Also we can be absolutely assured that whatever the mayor said to do today isn't the best course of action. He has little idea about what to do with the day and spent it doing rather useless things like pressure people who went against him, instead of actually pressuring people like Green, Kelso, and even Rose.

I still believe that Rose has been turned into a savage.

FM Galloway
June 10th, 2013, 01:08 PM
K. Triple post N time for work laterz

FM Chapman
June 10th, 2013, 01:14 PM
Who was the interview day 4? Was it Dunn or Hogeboom?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 01:15 PM
Who was the interview day 4? Was it Dunn or Hogeboom?

if thats the interview in which rose is cleared by a bd, then its hoge

FM Chapman
June 10th, 2013, 01:27 PM
if thats the interview in which rose is cleared by a bd, then its hoge

Thanks. In my first post, there's a question for the hosts about the deathnote. Could you put it in green so they see it?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 01:38 PM
Thanks. In my first post, there's a question for the hosts about the deathnote. Could you put it in green so they see it?

the [bleeps]? why does that matter?

FM Chapman
June 10th, 2013, 01:43 PM
the [bleeps]? why does that matter?

It tells us something about the person who wrote it.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 01:46 PM
Death note has been updated with the latest censor.

I think this answers your question.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 01:47 PM
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20806-Day-9?p=333949&viewfull=1#post333949

that should answer your question.

can i get a vote on who would vote Green but doesnt want to apply more pressure in case of early lynch day? put it in yellow
-Chapman

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 01:54 PM
unsure why you want this Chapman....
Were the [bleep]s in the death note added by a host or the author?

@Kalou - The mayor was just guessing, I think it's clear a lot of his plans were not very good especially based on the lynch of Lichtmann. Ackerman to me could be Savage, but is cleared of being a Mafia. Right now we need to kill a Mafia as I stated earlier.

and you are right, but I said they were smart not super analytical. The scum right now are definitely hiding their intelligence and posting bare minimum so that we will overlook them. Right now we are pressuring Green to see how he responds, there is still plenty of time in the day so we can easily go to a new lynch if necessary.

Green has been scumtelling everywhere as Galloway pointed out and based on his replacements play, he is definitely trying to act dumber than he actually is. Notice when his replacement comes in how he claims we tricked him into revealing his role. and his reactions to Galloways pressure definitely seemed forced.

So you basically answered the question yourself. At the end.


my belief is the savage gf is a lurker/replacement thats been trying to lie low, but is going 'anti-com' and not posting super analytical stuff to throw us off his trail.
Green
Laying low
Definitely hiding com + acting dumb

Second choice being Fontaine and possibly Kelso.

The thing is, these are also good candidates for the last Mafia. If we believe Galloway that there is no student DD, then the Mafia are outnumbered by Savages. Mafia are going to try and blend hard and attack the Savages to even things up or lose.

If Fontaine does not post within the next 3 hours I think we should switch the train on him. He is obviously active lurking. That he hasn't been modkilled yet is surprising to me.

@the death note looks just like the rage post from lichtmann yesterday. It is strange that they added the censorship, if I recall only Galloway does that. Possible framing? it seems way too obvious along with the fact that Galloway is hinting hard at being blackmailed.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 01:56 PM
Kalou what do you think of Earle being converted to the Savages last night?

Also I want to know your opinion on Rose and Donnelly

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 02:09 PM
Kalou what do you think of Earle being converted to the Savages last night?

Also I want to know your opinion on Rose and Donnelly

These questions actually can go to anybody. More opinions the better.

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FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 02:13 PM
rose could be savage by now but seems to be seeking conversion not already converted. i think leary is delta turned savage and green is maf. chapman is another maf. donnelly could be third maf. earle converted makes sense.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 02:40 PM
I think rose has since been converted, or a welllll hidden savage

I think donnelly is town. I just dont know why he's not more vocal, he seems smart. Don't think he's savage as the savages tried to get him under the spotlight in their death note(if anyone remembers that) my raf on him might change depending on whether he supports greens lynch

galletta, do u support greens lynch?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 02:41 PM
I think rose has since been converted, or a welllll hidden savage godfather

I think donnelly is town. I just dont know why he's not more vocal, he seems smart. Don't think he's savage as the savages tried to get him under the spotlight in their death note(if anyone remembers that) my read on him might change depending on whether he supports greens lynch

galletta, do u support greens lynch?

fixed

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 02:44 PM
yes i support lynching green, im just not voting so day doesnt end early. green is 100% maf. plz check my post from yesterday with my argument for chapman also being maf.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 02:46 PM
I think rose has since been converted, or a welllll hidden savage

I think donnelly is town. I just dont know why he's not more vocal, he seems smart. Don't think he's savage as the savages tried to get him under the spotlight in their death note(if anyone remembers that) my raf on him might change depending on whether he supports greens lynch

galletta, do u support greens lynch?
Kalou you are pretty vocal with not lynching Green. Care to explain why you think he isn't scum or not a good lynch choice?

I have you noted as one of the most likely to be town players. So I am curious what you think.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 02:46 PM
yes i support lynching green, im just not voting so day doesnt end early. green is 100% maf. plz check my post from yesterday with my argument for chapman also being maf.

Chapman is also in favor of lynching green. Does this raise any concerns?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 02:50 PM
Kalou you are pretty vocal with not lynching Green. Care to explain why you think he isn't scum or not a good lynch choice?

I have you noted as one of the most likely to be town players. So I am curious what you think.

Been extremely careful not to seem like I'm on the green Lynch train so I dont bias anyone. Trying to observe alliances. Galletta s logic on both chapman and green being maf is wrong.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 02:51 PM
And I think ackerman is a WAY bettrr choice. Hes lying about the block

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 02:53 PM
Oh sorry for the multi post. But I don't think earle has been converted. He would have tried to seem more towny

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 02:56 PM
Been extremely careful not to seem like I'm on the green Lynch train so I dont bias anyone. Trying to observe alliances. Galletta s logic on both chapman and green being maf is wrong.

I agree that Chapman is not Maf but am unsure why you think he is wrong about Green.

Ackerman lying about the block is suspicious, but he can not be Mafia because he was switched with Colmyer when Colmyer was blackmailed the second time. Meaning the Mafia intended to blackmail him aka not mafia.

So if Ackerman is scum, he can only be a savage or student turned Mafia, which I'm starting to doubt.

No prob about multi posting, barely anyone else is posting so you gotta say what you gotta say. I think you are mistaken about Earle, if he had a sudden change in posting style everyone would be suspect. If you don't think he was converted, how do you explain the lack of article today?

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:03 PM
i think ackerman is the enforcer, he did kinda hint that he and the mayor were sending soma messages to eachother yesterday.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:09 PM
Galletta might be throwing green away for town points, or is not critically thinking. I'll chalk it to the latter.

That was never made clear to me, and it makes sense if those feedback s are right; butwhy did no one say that yesterday? It would have stopped my tunneling. ...

I doubt the savages would recruit earle as something. Or would instantly be found out when he stopped interviewing. Not a smart idea. He's the same as he's always been since day one

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:11 PM
i think ackerman is the enforcer, he did kinda hint that he and the mayor were sending soma messages to eachother yesterday.

Stop pr hunting. We need them alive for end game. Especially if there are some. We want savages wasting recruits in their worst case scenario

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:12 PM
Stop pr hunting. We need them alive for end game. Especially if there are some. We want savages wasting recruits in their worst case scenario

You want ackerman lynched and yet you think he is a town pr?

FM Fontaine
June 10th, 2013, 03:13 PM
I'm back now, been delayed by Canine problems.

Well, here we go.

Firstly, when i first replaced the previous ownder, quite a few days have already past. So I spent my time going through these pages reading them and trying to compose something out of them.
This is my first large forum mafia, And I have discovered that I do not like such big groups as it is difficult for me to remember all the different people/personalities.
I am sorry for not being very usefull, Kinda glad I wasn't given any power roles since I would not have used them efficiently. And I wont be joining one of these large games again. So instead of running around like a headless llama, I sheeped Parker. Now he is dead, I'm not sure what to do, But i might just follow the Escort.

My recent posts have been cut short and low for a few reasons.
I found it difficult to come to conclusions with people, and felt uncomfotable posting anything that accuses someone.
Times have been cut shorter with local servives cut, and I have just recently been on a weekend break, which was extended slightly which made chances for me to reply composed posts difficult. (At the time of saying yes to replacement, i felt that I would have enough time, but things changed)
At this point, I was deemed as Mafia/Savage due to my posts, so I felt that changing them would just then make it look like I'm changing on purpose.

So, I am very sorry for this.

Since the game is smaller now, I can try again to compose some kind of accusations if you wish?

Any more questionss?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:15 PM
You want ackerman lynched and yet you think he is a town pr?

I retracted that. Based off Mendez explanation I think he's not capable of being Mafia anymore.
im talking generally. Dont ask about who is tpr.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:17 PM
Kalou what do you think of Earle being converted to the Savages last night?

Also I want to know your opinion on Rose and Donnelly

Answer her question. And are you on the green train?

FM Fontaine
June 10th, 2013, 03:19 PM
Are you talking to me?

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:20 PM
3 Scum, 1 Delta that turned into Savage, And a lurker is on me. Anyone else? Yeah let's get all the scums to vote me up. The innocent Delta that's saying Galloway is a Savage. Yeah.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 03:20 PM
Galletta might be throwing green away for town points, or is not critically thinking. I'll chalk it to the latter.

That was never made clear to me, and it makes sense if those feedback s are right; butwhy did no one say that yesterday? It would have stopped my tunneling. ...

I doubt the savages would recruit earle as something. Or would instantly be found out when he stopped interviewing. Not a smart idea. He's the same as he's always been since day one
Parker was aware that he could not be mafia except if he was a student DD, but because of the hiding roleblock and he had other reasons apparently he suspected Ackerman as a Savage.

I agree that he would be a poor choice to recruit but for different reasons. It was clear that Earle is a journalist or corrupt journalist and Earle made it very obvious that he could be either for wifom. If Savages attempted to convert him as a regular conversion, they keep the interviews and get a semi-confirmed town to hide amongst them. A corrupt journalist that is regular recruited though, would just become a regular Savage. So it was a good protection for him not to be converted. However with the lack of conversion I think it's possible they attemped to either-

Recruit as -something- and He was a regular journalist, becoming a savage -non journalist- and ending the article
Regular recruit and he was a Corrupt journalist, becoming a savage and ending the article

We can confirm this easily by not lynching him today and seeing if their is an article. If no article again, it's clear he is savaged. Town journalist has no reason to not interview, and a corrupt or savage journalist would want to prove they can still interview to remove suspicion. He could have been roleblocked, i.e. Ryan lied about redirecting to Parker, but not revealing it is just putting unneeded suspicion on him.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:24 PM
3 Scum, 1 Delta that turned into Savage, And a lurker is on me. Anyone else? Yeah let's get all the scums to vote me up. The innocent Delta that's saying Galloway is a Savage. Yeah.

Is that the best defence you can come up with?

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:25 PM
Is that the best defence you can come up with?

What do you expect from a Delta? A 500 word essay that explains why I'm Delta?

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:27 PM
What do you expect from a Delta? A 500 word essay that explains why I'm Delta?

Why did you sign up for this game if you are just going to sit around and do nothing?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:27 PM
Are you talking to me?

Yes

@mendez, I didnt catch that nuance. That was a dumb move I'd the Savages actually did that

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 03:29 PM
3 Scum, 1 Delta that turned into Savage, And a lurker is on me. Anyone else? Yeah let's get all the scums to vote me up. The innocent Delta that's saying Galloway is a Savage. Yeah.

Green could you give us your reads on all the alive players? That would be your best defense imo.

From what I see you are trying to say this -
FM Galloway - Savage
FM Ryan - Witch
FM Leary - Savage
FM Mendez - Delta turned Savage
FM Kelso - Lurker

I have been fairly active and would be willing to bet anything that the enforcer has been protecting me. It would be pretty dumb of him not to. Anyways I want to see what is making you think this, other than...they are voting me so they must be scum.

Fontaine, I want to know your opinion on Rose, Donnelly and Green.

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:30 PM
I want everyones opinion on whether your in favor of greens lynch. If you dont, ill mark you as being against his lynch, with all the implications

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 03:30 PM
Yes

@mendez, I didnt catch that nuance. That was a dumb move I'd the Savages actually did that

Yes, which is why the lack of article is really bothering me.

FM Galletta
June 10th, 2013, 03:32 PM
back
you're right im probably just tunneling on chapman, though im not ready to right him off as town yet

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:33 PM
Yes, which is why the lack of article is really bothering me.

Ryan says he made Mason block Parker?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 03:33 PM
back
you're right im probably just tunneling on chapman, though im not ready to right him off as town yet

I'm just saying they can't both be Mafia

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:34 PM
Ryan says he made Mason block Parker?

A corrupted journalist would turn into a savage making the corrupted journalist unable to post his interview.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:36 PM
Green could you give us your reads on all the alive players? That would be your best defense imo.

From what I see you are trying to say this -
FM Galloway - Savage
FM Ryan - Witch
FM Leary - Savage
FM Mendez - Delta turned Savage
FM Kelso - Lurker

I have been fairly active and would be willing to bet anything that the enforcer has been protecting me. It would be pretty dumb of him not to. Anyways I want to see what is making you think this, other than...they are voting me so they must be scum.

Fontaine, I want to know your opinion on Rose, Donnelly and Green.

That's basically what I'm saying. From my point of view, I think all the votes on me are scum. Galloway has too much rage inside of him and when I started saying that he was a Savage. Why is Leary even alive? He was next to Ackerman and Lichtmann. I claimed Delta multiple times when I first got in, and yet people deny that. I don't know why that Delta isn't possible for me since 20 other people aren't claiming it. Only 7, and that matches the role list. I think Kelso is just trying to follow the lynch train since he can't stay on the forums and look at the posts. So basically, most of the votes, they are scum. I take back your accusation.

FM Ferengi
June 10th, 2013, 03:39 PM
Were the [bleep]s in the death note added by a host or the author?

The bleeps were a host censor since the language was deemed inappropriate.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 03:39 PM
Ryan says he made Mason block Parker?


Who knows? It's a secret. But maybe it's time to tell you my past night actions, right?

Here are they, in short summary:

n1:-witch Biggs onto Cohen
n2:-witch Biggs onto Morgan
n3:-witch Morgan to Cafarelli
n4:-...

Yes, I was replaced after that point.

n5:-Witch Earle to Black
n6:-witch Monroe onto Hogeboom
n7:-witch Parker to target Ryan - roleblocked
n8:-witch Parker to target Lichtmann
n9:-witch Mason to target Parker

He claimed it, but that doesn't mean it is true.

@Green - I'm trying to get you to post more so that I can trust you more. We don't have Parker to assume the town leader role so everyone is just confused. We can not afford a mislynch now and you flipping Delta would be the nail in the coffin.

Please post who you think are the Mafia and Savages as well as your reads on anyone notable. That will help us see if you are buddied with other scummy players or not.

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 03:39 PM
Back from work.


http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/20806-Day-9?p=333949&viewfull=1#post333949

that should answer your question.

can i get a vote on who would vote Green but doesnt want to apply more pressure in case of early lynch day? put it in yellow
-Chapman

Since he is one of my two SGF suspects:
I support the lynch of Green.


3 Scum, 1 Delta that turned into Savage, And a lurker is on me. Anyone else? Yeah let's get all the scums to vote me up. The innocent Delta that's saying Galloway is a Savage. Yeah.

Calling everyone who votes you scum = incredibly scummy. It's not even a defense. Even more evidence that Green has got to go.

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 03:43 PM
Also I believe that Earle was originally a corrupt journalist, but the savages, believing he was a real journalist, converted him, thus turning him into a regular savage, which is why there was no article today.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:44 PM
Also I believe that Earle was originally a corrupt journalist, but the savages, believing he was a real journalist, converted him, thus turning him into a regular savage, which is why there was no article today.

Makes sense. Earle wasn't blocked today according to the witch.

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 03:45 PM
Makes sense. Earle wasn't blocked today according to the witch.

He also has posted a few times and hasn't claimed blocked, which he no doubt would have done if that had been the case.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 03:47 PM
Earle being converted can be confirmed tomorrow if there is no article. Unless we plan on lynching him today we can shift the focus elsewhere.

@Fontaine - Your explanation was just problems. I understand it's hard to make time. Who do you think are the most scummy players?

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:48 PM
Earle being converted can be confirmed tomorrow if there is no article. Unless we plan on lynching him today we can shift the focus elsewhere.

@Fontaine - Your explanation was just problems. I understand it's hard to make time. Who do you think are the most scummy players?

I don't see the point in lynching a converted savage, someone else will just replace him tomorrow. The only savage worth lynching is the savage godfather.

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 03:52 PM
I don't see the point in lynching a converted savage, someone else will just replace him tomorrow. The only savage worth lynching is the savage godfather.

Unsure what you mean someone will just replace him. Savages are maxed at 6 including dead players. So right now savages can at most have 4 players including the SGF. Tomorrow we will know if he is confirmed savage or not, which is why we should not waste a vote on him today.

FM Rose
June 10th, 2013, 03:54 PM
Unsure what you mean someone will just replace him. Savages are maxed at 6 including dead players. So right now savages can at most have 4 players including the SGF. Tomorrow we will know if he is confirmed savage or not, which is why we should not waste a vote on him today.

I didn't know dead players were included. The savages might be maxed now if we are unlucky:/

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:56 PM
Firstly, Galloway.

Galloway had some kind of grudge on me the dayI got in. I suspected him of being some kind of Mafia, I wasn't really familiar with the setup at that time. Then when I said that he acted like a Savage, he started to rage. That's kind of suspicious to me.

Leary.

He's never actually talked directly to me, but his defense that the Mayor pointed to me was really offensive to the Town. He was raging similar to Galloway.



Back from work.



Since he is one of my two SGF suspects:
I support the lynch of Green.



Calling everyone who votes you scum = incredibly scummy. It's not even a defense. Even more evidence that Green has got to go.

Tell me, what you expect me to do. MOSTLY EVERYONE on that lynch train is scummy. You have to agree. Why am I one of the two Savage GF suspects? Explain and I'll be happy to be lynched and prove to you that I'm a Delta. Galloway has a grudge on me and he started that train.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 03:59 PM
Well? How am I supposed to prove that I am a Delta? Let's use some properties from Geometry shall we?
Transitive Property?
Reflexive Property?
What do you want me to say, so I can prove myself?

FM Kalou
June 10th, 2013, 04:03 PM
Well? How am I supposed to prove that I am a Delta? Let's use some properties from Geometry shall we?
Transitive Property?
Reflexive Property?
What do you want me to say, so I can prove myself?

Read and stop spreading misinformation

FM Mendez
June 10th, 2013, 04:07 PM
I didn't know dead players were included. The savages might be maxed now if we are unlucky:/

It would be much worse if they could just keep on converting. I agree they are probably maxed unless the Enforcer has been playing well.

FM Green
June 10th, 2013, 04:11 PM
Read and stop spreading misinformation

I think thats not misinformation. Im asking the general population to tell me what I should say to prove myself before I go to school. Unlike you people, Im in a different timezone.

FM Donnelly
June 10th, 2013, 04:14 PM
Firstly, Galloway.

Galloway had some kind of grudge on me the dayI got in. I suspected him of being some kind of Mafia, I wasn't really familiar with the setup at that time. Then when I said that he acted like a Savage, he started to rage. That's kind of suspicious to me.

Leary.

He's never actually talked directly to me, but his defense that the Mayor pointed to me was really offensive to the Town. He was raging similar to Galloway.




Tell me, what you expect me to do. MOSTLY EVERYONE on that lynch train is scummy. You have to agree. Why am I one of the two Savage GF suspects? Explain and I'll be happy to be lynched and prove to you that I'm a Delta. Galloway has a grudge on me and he started that train.

If I'm being honest, there isn't anything you can do to convince me that you are a delta at this point. You have spent the game not really contributing or making any noticeable difference in the game. You seem to me like someone who has tried very hard not to be noticed. It is only now that you're being pressured that you have even attempted to make yourself useful, and the attempt is feeble at best.