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Slaol
April 25th, 2013, 12:46 AM
Sheriff/Investigator/Detective
Doctor/Lookout/Escort
Vigilante/Jailor/Bodyguard
Citizen/Mayor/Marshall
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Mafioso/Godfather
Framer/Consigliere/Blackmailer/Consort

Serial Killer/Witch
Jester/Executioner/Survivor

Investigator pairings

Mayor / Marshall
Doctor / Blackmailer / Survivor
Lookout / Consigliere / Executioner
Bodyguard / Mafioso
Escort / Consort / Witch
Vigilante / Jailor / Serial Killer
Citizen / Godfather / Framer / Jester


Mayor- vote power is 2
Marshall- the day of reveal may have as many lynches as can fit in the day
Sheriff- detects as town, mafia, or neutral.
Investigator- detects investigator pairing
Detective- detects visit, bypasses immunity
Doctor- is alerted of save, and what type of weaponry it was
Lookout- sees all visitors, bypasses immunity
Escort- role blocks a target. Detects block immunity
Bodyguard- defends target, no one is immune to bodyguard
Vigilante- infinite shots
Jailor- jails target, removing them from their day and/or 2nd chat interrogates them and may execute them
Citizen- voting majority

Mafioso- may kill someone at night
Godfather- may kill someone at night, immune to detection
Framer- may frame someone as mafia or neutral, and as any investigator pairing. The framed target will also 'visit' the mafia kill to detective and lookout. May be sent for the mafia kill
Consigliere- detects exact role. May be sent for the mafia kill
Blackmailer- silences a player. They may not vote or claim blackmailed. Can be sent for the Mafia kill.
Consort- role block a target. Immune to role blocking. Can be sent for the Mafia kill.

Serial Killer- may kill someone at night, immunity to night kills
Witch- may redirect a single target onto a second target
Jester- kills 1/4 of players, rounded down, when lynched
Executioner- becomes jester upon failure
Survivor- has 3 nights of immunity


Jailor (capture)
Witch (can be blocked)
Consort
Escort
Doctor, Bodyguard, Lookout (sees 2 onward), Survivor
Vigilante, Jailor (execution) Mafia kill, Serial Killer
Framer
Sheriff, investigator, detective (sees 1 onward), consigliere, blackmailer, Jester



Win Conditions
Town- see mafia and serial killer lose
Mafia- see town and serial killer lose
Serial killer- see town and mafia lose
Witch- see town lose
Jester- be lynched during the day
Executioner- see your target be lynched or become a jester and win as jester
Survivor- survive

Special mechanics.

The game will be split into a 7 player group and a 6 player group
All but 1 player will have a 'Link' with another player. This player is not guaranteed to be on their faction. That person is also not revealed to you in any way by the host.
Link chats may be spoken in by those Linked having night, and read but not spoken in by those Linked having day.
Mafia will share a night chat which they may speak in during their night cycle. If the other mafia is having day that player may listen but not speak, like Link chats.
One group will start on night, the other will start on day.
Days will be labeled 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, etc.
Night actions will be taken during he other groups day time.
Every 2 (full) days half of the game will swap groups at random at the end of the second day. When the game reaches 5 players the groups will merge.
Your Linked player may end up in the same group as you.
You may only lynch in your own group, but may act on any player in the game with night actions during your own night.


Game starts on day 1a with lynch.
24+ hour As
24+ hour Bs
As and Bs that end early will not start the next a/b early.
[vote] tags will be used.
Don't quote PMs. Also no Screen shots and stuff. Modkills and the like.
Questions in green
Answers in white

Cryptonic
April 25th, 2013, 05:39 AM
S-FMs must be contained to 1 thread.

Slaol
April 25th, 2013, 09:06 AM
It would be in a single thread.
A and B groups would just use the same thread alternating timing per day/night cycle
And Link chats would work like night chats and be off site.

Cryptonic
April 25th, 2013, 09:07 AM
kk, just making sure you knew.

Slaol
April 25th, 2013, 04:27 PM
Slaol knows.

Titus
April 27th, 2013, 08:04 PM
Looks good but the investigator pairings need work. If someone pops up as " Category 2", the town will lynch them and the mafia will immediately know who the executioner is. Category One is almost certain not to be lynched.

Maybe swap consig for lookout and survivor for executioner.

Slaol
April 27th, 2013, 08:24 PM
Agreed and updated further than suggestions

Titus
April 27th, 2013, 08:33 PM
Can someone in jail be lynched? It would seem unfair if the jailor jails someone during their day and then the person is lynched due to factors beyond their control.

Slaol
April 27th, 2013, 08:34 PM
Can someone in jail be lynched? It would seem unfair if the jailor jails someone during their day and then the person is lynched due to factors beyond their control.

Sucks for them. Huh?

Slaol
April 27th, 2013, 08:40 PM
Escort, consort, witch added

Titus
April 27th, 2013, 08:42 PM
A person who cannot defend themselves is at a severe disadvantage during a lynch. They might get lynched before they can even mount a defense.

Slaol
April 27th, 2013, 08:45 PM
A person who cannot defend themselves is at a severe disadvantage during a lynch. They might get lynched before they can even mount a defense.


Sucks for them. Huh?

It would effectively be like a blackmail. Also, it could easily be a jester and work in their favor or a mafia and work in towns favor. I am well aware of the mechanic you are questioning and it is absolutely by design.

Titus
April 27th, 2013, 08:49 PM
Then can the mechanic include a notice at L-1 that the player was jailed, similar to SC2's notice at trial?

Slaol
April 27th, 2013, 08:54 PM
Then can the mechanic include a notice at L-1 that the player was jailed, similar to SC2's notice at trial?

Why would I do that? It is intended to be a silence and impede that persons ability to speak

Sinclair
April 27th, 2013, 08:56 PM
If used correctly, that mechanic could be devastatingly amazing.

I like it.

Titus
April 28th, 2013, 08:23 AM
/sign

Titus
April 28th, 2013, 07:26 PM
One more question. Do we know the name of our linked player? Or just a number.

Magahnimar
April 28th, 2013, 07:28 PM
I can volunteer for this if you want me ^.^

/pre-sign

Slaol
April 28th, 2013, 07:29 PM
One more question. Do we know the name of our linked player? Or just a number.

Titus needs to read setup :P
Special mechanic 2

Titus
April 28th, 2013, 07:44 PM
I must have missed that. Doh!

Cryptonic
June 7th, 2013, 08:41 PM
Are you using the vote tags? If Yes, how are you going to manage having a Marshall?

Jailor can jail on lynch days? Limited # of executions? Are their targets immune in jail?

Detective & Lookout bypass immunity. Which roles have detection immunity?

Blackmailer & Consort can't be sent for the Mafia night kill?

If jester gets lynch with <3 people left, no one will die?

Are people informed of Witching?

Doctor detects "weaponry". What does that mean? Will they know exactly what role attacked? If yes, can they tell the difference between Mafioso & Godfather? Will the know it was a Framer that attacked?

Is Godfather immune to attacks?

BG can be healed during a fight?

Slaol
June 7th, 2013, 08:52 PM
Are you using the vote tags? If Yes, how are you going to manage having a Marshall?

Jailor can jail on lynch days? Limited # of executions? Are their targets immune in jail?

Detective & Lookout bypass immunity. Which roles have detection immunity?

Blackmailer & Consort can't be sent for the Mafia night kill?

If jester gets lynch with <3 people left, no one will die?

Are people informed of Witching?

Doctor detects "weaponry". What does that mean? Will they know exactly what role attacked? If yes, can they tell the difference between Mafioso & Godfather? Will the know it was a Framer that attacked?

Is Godfather immune to attacks?

BG can be healed during a fight?

I'm answering these cause they are here, but I would like to delay my place in the queue. I have things I'm doing and not enough time to focus on the furry of off-site chats I would need to manage.

Yes. Open the thread and continue day. Lots of attention.
Jailor can NOT jail on lynch days of his own group. No limit, Jailor is limited by lynches. Yes. Immune in jail.
Godfather, whoops.
They can be, whoops.
Correct, 0 deaths. Early game Jester changes game, late game a mislynch is large enough.
No.
Doctor detects as Mafia, Vigilante, Bodyguard, Serial Killer, Jester. No difference between Mafia roles.
No.
Yes.

deathworlds
July 6th, 2013, 01:53 AM
Can you please color code the roles? They are hard to keep track of.