Commisioned Town Roles Voting Thread

[Elixir]

You will all get 1 vote towards the role you want to see added. The 2 roles with the highest votes will be added into the game, provided Dark.Revenant is able to code them in. We reserve the right to exclude a winning role and move to the next in line should it not be able to be added within the set timeline/at all.

The roles and their descriptions are included below for your convenience. Please note, the Names of these roles and the wording of their descriptions are subject to change. Their abilities are not.




Role Name
Description
Suggested By
Link


Armorsmith
Can give a one use Vest to a target
Forum Mafias / Numbertwo
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18531-Blacksmith?p=299787#post299787)


Crier
Can speak to the entire town Anonymously at night.
Lazers
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/6603-Crier)


Enchantress
Can Lure a Target to Self, and Repel a Target Away
Fuller
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/10370-Enchantress?highlight=enchantress)


Marshall
Can cause a Multi-Lynch Day
Tipzntrix
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/11313-President)


Architect
Cause a 3 way anonmyous conversation at night.
Ash
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/11097-Architect-amp-Ghost?highlight=architect)


Hunter/Snitch
Kills a person next night when Lynched and pon death reveal the roles that used to be Mafia Killing, Mafia Deception, Mafia Support, and Mafia Random in the roles list. **
CmG/Slaol
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18527-Hunter)/ Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15912-Snitch)


Timestopper
Roleblocks the entire game.
Auckmid
Link
(http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/10090-Timestopper?highlight=timestopper)




** We're trying to blend these guys together because alone they're horrible. I still think a role that exists only to die is retarded but there it is.

The poll will expire after 7 days.

[Slaol]

if crier is ever implemented, pls make it a unique role.

This is my entire case. Roles that need to be unique based on game-play, not RP (like Mayor/Godfather, there are only 1 of those) should not exist.

[Cryptonic]

I voted Architect.
However, I would prefer if the Architect couldn't enter/view the chat, and it only being between his 2 targets. But I like the idea of the role a lot.

[Voss]

timestopper and marshall are so close to each other..

[Lazers]

Why only one vote?


This is my entire case. Roles that need to be unique based on game-play, not RP (like Mayor/Godfather, there are only 1 of those) should not exist.

Spy.










also Godfather is also gameplay unique since usually it's so damn strong

and because kill controlling

[Slaol]

Spy.

Spy really should not exist in it's current form. Stay tuned.

[Auckmid]

I'm surprised your letting Hunter into the poll:P

Edit:

** We're trying to blend these guys together because alone they're horrible. I still think a role that exists only to die is retarded but there it is.


There it is.


Marshall is my top choice, Architect is my second. I'll wait a bit before voting in case a point difference occurs.

[Lazers]

Spy really should not exist in it's current form. Stay tuned.

I got a bad feeling about this

What's next, antiMayor?

[Slaol]

I got a bad feeling about this

What's next, antiMayor?

Nah. Mayor is basically fine as is. Especially with the progression of claims recently.

[CmG]

I still need someone to explain to me how an architect benefits the game when nights are 45 secs long. Does a mafia have to attend 2 night chats when he gets invited? How does this work with the U.I.?

[Damus_Graves]

Misclicked >>

[clementine]

Not really sure why you would need an architect if the town already has PMs that can be used to chat with whoever you want to during the day.

Since I only get one vote, I'll have to think about it, but I think the architect is a waste of coding space.

[Damus_Graves]

I think most of us are hoping to have architect cause pubs to extend their night phases.

[vornksr]

Suggested By: Ash

:'(

[vornksr]

Not really sure why you would need an architect if the town already has PMs that can be used to chat with whoever you want to during the day.

Not all setups necessarily have pm's enabled, and if the conversation is anonymous there's some room for lying that doesn't exist in pm's.

[CmG]

All setups have pms enabled on NA. What are you talking about? Wut?

[Slaol]

Not really sure why you would need an architect if the town already has PMs that can be used to chat with whoever you want to during the day.

Since I only get one vote, I'll have to think about it, but I think the architect is a waste of coding space.

Actually, yea. I don't see it adding much thanks to 35 second nights and the 100% chance for PMs. Enchantress it is.

[Voss]

marshall's going to be epic...

[creedkingsx]

Going to have to go with Enchantress.
I don't particularly like any of them, but Enchantress is the best of them.

[louiswill]

can I still make more suggestion? I think

my suggestion, activist

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/18838-Activitist

deserve as much chance as crier and hunter.

[creedkingsx]

deserve as much chance as crier and hunter.

they don't really deserve a chance, though.
:D
We made it pretty clear to leave suggestions in the previous thread.

[louiswill]

they don't really deserve a chance, though.
:D
We made it pretty clear to leave suggestions in the previous thread.

I left suggestion last week, no one updated the thread.

---
#183 on previous thread.

[creedkingsx]

I left suggestion last week, no one updated the thread.

---
#183 on previous thread.

You left suggestions for Vote Clerk which nobody backed you on.
I left suggestion for PhD and Boss backed me on it, and I believe someone else did as well and it didn't make it in.

[louiswill]

You left suggestions for Vote Clerk which nobody backed you on.
I left suggestion for PhD and Boss backed me on it, and I believe someone else did as well and it didn't make it in.

Yes, I also asked DR, he said vote clerk is easy to code, as I intended(many of the suggestions are hard to code...), but it is not favored. So I changed to Activist.

Isn't it wierd enough that my suggestion doesn't even get flamed at all?

[Deantwo]

out of all the roles in the poll... i like Crier best... but still feel that Crier need some work... and maybe a better name...

other then that... not a huge fan of the roles in the poll...

still think a Lawyer or something like that... that messes with vote counts would be interesting... like whoever the Lawyer visit at night... will start on the voting with -1... in other words... the person would need one vote extra to be put on the stand/lynch... and/or so they have a INNO vote extra coming from nowhere
rather to be Mafia, Town, or Neutral... no idea... but a way of protecting people from being lynched

[Ash]

Architect
Cause a 3 way anonmyous conversation at night.
Ash
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/11097-Architect-amp-Ghost?highlight=architect)








[/quote]
lmfao thats probably like the only role i've ever suggested...

[Fatalis]

I'll +1 the crier because it seems to be the most fun
And sc2mafia is 90% fun 10% wins

[Slaol]

I'll +1 the crier because it seems to be the most fun
And sc2mafia is 90% fun 10% wins

Returns to FM roots and shoots Fatalis.

[Lazers]

Well, since Crier is gonna lose and since the concept of getting instafucked by an enchantress as scum is retarded (much like escort and jailor instantly dooming SK n1, because that's so much fun and deep), I'm voting Marshall

Architect is coo', although I can't see it helping the currently dead Mafia chat

Marshall + Mayor saves would be interesting to say the least

[Deantwo]

Well, since Crier is gonna lose and since the concept of getting instafucked by an enchantress as scum is retarded (much like escort and jailor instantly dooming SK n1, because that's so much fun and deep), I'm voting Marshall

Architect is coo', although I can't see it helping the currently dead Mafia chat

Marshall + Mayor saves would be interesting to say the least

i agree... the roles in this poll aren't all that interesting...

[CmG]

i agree... the roles in this poll aren't all that interesting...

Thats because town is already strong as fuck with the roles which are already in game. I never felt like. "Damn town needs this and that. Because town is lacking" A wider varity of benign , evil neuts is more fun i guess. They can add a lot more game changing mechanics than town roles.

I wonder if it will be like Marshall automaticly excludes Mayor in setups. We will see. It probably should.

[Apache]

Thats because town is already strong as fuck with the roles which are already in game. I never felt like. "Damn town needs this and that. Because town is lacking" A wider varity of benign , evil neuts is more fun i guess. They can add a lot more game changing mechanics than town roles.


+1, new neutrals would be cool. but still town loses too often because of the noobs ;) *misses ranked*

[Voss]

Thats because town is already strong as fuck with the roles which are already in game. I never felt like. "Damn town needs this and that. Because town is lacking" A wider varity of benign , evil neuts is more fun i guess. They can add a lot more game changing mechanics than town roles.

I wonder if it will be like Marshall automaticly excludes Mayor in setups. We will see. It probably should.

why should it?

[creedkingsx]

I agree with CmG.
Marshall plus mayor=ez mode.
Unlimited lynches, confirmed town, almost guaranteed majority, if not, will have it soon enough; and another confirmed town.

If trial pauses day, which it usually does, easy fucking win right there.

[CmG]

why should it?

Because neuts are factionless. So you can give them abilities which benefit just them to achieve their goals. Also their abilities can be stronger as well. You have just more free room designing them.

[vornksr]

The original (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/970-New-Role-Architect?highlight=role%3A+architect) architect was a lot more complicated than simply creating a night chat, and entirely impossible from a practical standpoint. The simplified version proposed at the end of the thread was this: the architect creates a partial roleblock effect. People inside the architect chat can only target each other (and possibly can't be targeted from the outside, much like jail chat).

[BorkBot]

I still need someone to explain to me how an architect benefits the game when nights are 45 secs long. Does a mafia have to attend 2 night chats when he gets invited? How does this work with the U.I.?

The biggest problem would seem to me if a kidnapper got invited.

3 chats at once.

And spy would see mafia talk in architect chat (lol)

Tbh, spy needs its option to disable "see mafia night chat" back. Seeing other people's night chats breaks this game at its core. It's fine just seeing mafia targets.

[creedkingsx]

Spy: See ALL the chats.

[Jim]

Are the architect's people like jailed because that would be super OP if he could jail 2 mafias.

[BorkBot]

Spy: See ALL the chats.

Arf. Totally borked.

I used to find it fun to include spies in my setups because of nice dynamics with lookout and detective. But seeing night chats, it's just a game breaker.

[Logante]

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat? "Hey guys, this is "Name Here", send me all your roles tomorrow and I'll leave it all in LW. Only the town sees his message, and the town knows he's a confirmed town crier, so there's absolute trust both ways and there's no reason for lies. Sounds like a game breaker, to me.

[Slaol]

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat? "Hey guys, this is "Name Here", send me all your roles tomorrow and I'll leave it all in LW. Only the town sees his message, and the town knows he's a confirmed town crier, so there's absolute trust both ways and there's no reason for lies. Sounds like a game breaker, to me.


What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat?


cheat?

Wut?

It isn't a 'cheat'. However...


Sounds like a game breaker, to me.

It is this. ^

[louiswill]

who said crier gonna lose????

[Elixir]

marshall isnt infinite lynches btw. I'll be balancing it pretty hard.

[Deantwo]

What's to prevent the crier from being another mayor cheat? "Hey guys, this is "Name Here", send me all your roles tomorrow and I'll leave it all in LW. Only the town sees his message, and the town knows he's a confirmed town crier, so there's absolute trust both ways and there's no reason for lies. Sounds like a game breaker, to me.





Crier
Can speak to the entire town Anonymously at night.
Lazers
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/6603-Crier)




when it says "entire town" it's meant as "EVERYONE IN GAME" not just Townies... it's a common thing to confuse...

[Numbertwo]

It would be a disaster if both crier and marshall was implemented. 2 Roles that can Instantly confirm themselves as town if they want to.

[BorkBot]

It would be a disaster if both crier and marshall was implemented. 2 Roles that can Instantly confirm themselves as town if they want to.

The new troll setup:
Mayor
Marshall
Crier
Spy
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Mafia
Mafia
Mafia
Neut
Neut
Neut

[Cryptonic]

AHHHH Pls no Crier unless Jester is given the Crier ability.... Confirmed towns r teh lame.
Also, I miss the days when Spy could partake in Mason chat =[ Can we bring back that setting? lol


Also, Architect would be awesome imo. But, I turn off PMs in my games (so funny to see mayor reveal d2 and go "PM me roles" LOL). But also, I think Architect can connect town members anonymously without scum knowing that this information had passed between them. Seriously, if ppl are PMing in your game, the smartest thing to do as scum is kill them. So if you can secretly be talking to eachother without scum knowing, then it would be beneficial towards the town.

[Numbertwo]

I think we should be allowed to have 2 choices, i doubt people that vote for marshall will have crier as their 2nd choice.

[Lazers]

AHHHH Pls no Crier unless Jester is given the Crier ability.... Confirmed towns r teh lame.
Also, I miss the days when Spy could partake in Mason chat =[ Can we bring back that setting? lol


Also, Architect would be awesome imo. But, I turn off PMs in my games (so funny to see mayor reveal d2 and go "PM me roles" LOL). But also, I think Architect can connect town members anonymously without scum knowing that this information had passed between them. Seriously, if ppl are PMing in your game, the smartest thing to do as scum is kill them. So if you can secretly be talking to eachother without scum knowing, then it would be beneficial towards the town.

I agree with the anti-crier suggestion and endorse it

could be interesting


I think we should be allowed to have 2 choices, i doubt people that vote for marshall will have crier as their 2nd choice.

I think a single vote is more representative of what people want the most, although I will agree that Marshall + Crier isn't a very great combo

but honestly if it means enshitress not getting in I'm fine with it

[Slaol]

marshall isnt infinite lynches btw. I'll be balancing it pretty hard.

What is it? 2-3?

[Slaol]

Crier needs 'exclude from the game of Mafia' setting.

[Lazers]

Crier needs 'exclude from the game of Mafia' setting.

No, but I will agree that Town Random needs an option to exclude power roles

[Damus_Graves]

Crier needs 'exclude from the game of Mafia' setting.
Do you remember my idea about Agent?

[Slaol]

Do you remember my idea about Agent?

Which one?

[creedkingsx]

Oh god, why is Crier winning?

[BorkBot]

Oh god, why is Crier winning?

It looks like some people who voted Hunter/Snitch first unvoted and put their vote on Crier.

[Doresain]

Ohgod no Crier

[CmG]

Heh seems like crier gets trolled into the game GeGe! xD
Pls make sure to reveal after the end of the votings who voted for what. :P

[Voss]

i wish we could vote for as many as we want, but only once per. that form of voting is way more fair. you get a view of what most people like, rather than trying to manipulate 2 of your favorite roles into the game.

[Cryptonic]

what's that? 1 vote per 100 rep? sounds good to me.

[creedkingsx]

what's that? 1 vote per 100 rep? sounds good to me.

yeah, me2

[louiswill]

I would certainly against rep vote, someone periodically cut my rep for none sense.

Which means, the higher rep people can always overpower power newer or less rep people.

Joke or not, I dislike it and I do not support it.


i wish we could vote for as many as we want, but only once per. that form of voting is way more fair. you get a view of what most people like, rather than trying to manipulate 2 of your favorite roles into the game.

Same here,

Not saying crier doesn't deserve that many votes but rather other roles deserve more votes.

It is currently at winner take all plus one vote only system.

[Azuriae]

Wha... What is this. WHY IS EVERYTHING BLUE.
There is so much stuff to read! I'm like a kid in a candy store~
(But really; I would love to see the Enchantress in Sc2Mafia.)

Be right back, reading all those threads. Eeee~

[creedkingsx]

Wha... What is this. WHY IS EVERYTHING BLUE.
There is so much stuff to read! I'm like a kid in a candy store~
(But really; I would love to see the Enchantress in Sc2Mafia.)

Be right back, reading all those threads. Eeee~

Welcome to R&D. :P

[Jim]

Enchantress voters please join Marshall, Crier dum that is all.

[Slaol]

Enchantress voters please join Marshall, Crier dum that is all.

2 roles are getting in. We need everyone on the Marshall + Enchantress bandwagons.

[BorkBot]

Enchantress voters please join Marshall, Crier dum that is all.

Crier voters should join enchantress, then all problems are solved :p

[Jim]

2 roles are getting in. We need everyone on the Marshall + Enchantress bandwagons.

Your red, or mayble blue, delete Crier are redistibute the votes to cool roles plz, thanks.

[CmG]

But i c no cool roles at all :/

[Jim]

But i c no cool roles at all :/

Delete and create good ones? But Architect and Marshall are cool atleast.

[CmG]

And i tried.. OH MY GOD DID I TRY!

[Voss]

i bet that all the hunter people switched their vote to crier =(

[Damus_Graves]

/me voted for Architect

[louiswill]

If new roles requires at least 3 or 4 back uper to get in the list, so be it. Crier all the way...

[Jim]

i bet that all the hunter people switched their vote to crier =(

I was hunter but switched to Marshall, why does everyone keep saying crier?

[creedkingsx]

I was hunter but switched to Marshall, why does everyone keep saying crier?

Smartest question you've ever asked.
Seriously, why?

[Deantwo]

I was hunter but switched to Marshall, why does everyone keep saying crier?

cause they're CRYING out loud?

joke aside... can't we at least think of new name? Crier sound weird to me... maybe Rabioman? Broadcaster? i mean if we think of the cry-ability as a radio broadcast

[louiswill]

cause they're CRYING out loud?

joke aside... can't we at least think of new name? Crier sound weird to me... maybe Rabioman? Broadcaster? i mean if we think of the cry-ability as a radio broadcast

Night Radio Host

[Deantwo]

Night Radio Host

or just Radio Host... but yeah i like it... just sounds more anonymous then walking around town yelling out loud

[Mugy]

I'm switching my vote from architect to marshall if the vote count on crier doesn't lower...
I don't think crier will work, especially in SC2mafia.
Someone's gonna use it for trolling. You know it.

[Deantwo]

I'm switching my vote from architect to marshall if the vote count on crier doesn't lower...
I don't think crier will work, especially in SC2mafia.
Someone's gonna use it for trolling. You know it.

all roles can be used for trolling... if we say no to a role just cause some people will use it to troll... we can remove about half the roles in the game...

maybe i like the idea of the Crier cause i don't always get to follow the day chat to much... and having someone tell you the highlights of the day doing the lonely night would be nice ^^;

but out of all the roles in this poll... i still like the Crier best...

still think a Town role that can protect people from being lynched at day would be more interesting... a kind of Lawyer? it's been suggested a million times...

Crier would only be really ok if Jester got the same ability

[creedkingsx]

I'm switching my vote from architect to marshall if the vote count on crier doesn't lower...
I don't think crier will work, especially in SC2mafia.
Someone's gonna use it for trolling. You know it.

switch to architect. :P
Marshall is winning now, architect would be tied.

[Apache]

i don't think this kind of poll is a good idea, there will be 2 new roles but everyone has only one vote. that means that you only can influence what one of the roles will be. now everyone checks the current votes and then places his vote according to it to influence the poll. better would be 2 polls, the second starts after the first role is clear. or let everyone vote for 2 roles. in such a fair poll crier would probably not win

[Nick]

When is the poll ending. Wolfram alpha please.

I WANT TO MAKE THE CRIER VOTERS CRY!!!

[Cryptonic]

When is the poll ending. Wolfram alpha please.

I WANT TO MAKE THE CRIER VOTERS CRY!!!

change your settings so the website is in your timezone then look at the poll lol

[Nick]

This poll will close on 15-04-2013 at 08:50 PM

I'm blind...

[louiswill]

even though crier can be trolling, it is still less trolling than hunter.

Crier at least doesn't kill directly and suicide.

I think hunter is a legit role so that I think crier is too.

The problem is that, who can stop crier in the game? Time to let jester own his own radio station! some talk show stuff..

[Gerik]

come on, guys... Less crier, moar enchantress.

[creedkingsx]

even though crier can be trolling, it is still less trolling than hunter.

Crier at least doesn't kill directly and suicide.

I think hunter is a legit role so that I think crier is too.

The problem is that, who can stop crier in the game? Time to let jester own his own radio station! some talk show stuff..

nah
This is a poll for 2 new roles, not new roles and changes to other roles.
If you don't like the role, as you so clearly state by suggesting further changes need be made, then you shouldn't vote for it.

[Bergtau]

I think Town Crier is potentially just too powerful if he's speaking only to town at night. All he has to do to is say "If you're a town PM X 'this specific phrase' tomorrow" where X is his #/color/name.

On the other hand, if he's not talking to just town then I feel like it's a pretty bad role. All he's good for is revealing who is he as a town and I feel like the ability would lead to annoying abuse by players much more often than other abilities.

[Deantwo]

I think Town Crier is potentially just too powerful if he's speaking only to town at night. All he has to do to is say "If you're a town PM X 'this specific phrase' tomorrow" where X is his #/color/name.

On the other hand, if he's not talking to just town then I feel like it's a pretty bad role. All he's good for is revealing who is he as a town and I feel like the ability would lead to annoying abuse by players much more often than other abilities.






Crier
Can speak to the entire town Anonymously at night.
Lazers
Link (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/6603-Crier)


when it says "entire town" it's meant as "EVERYONE IN GAME" not just Townies... it's a common thing to confuse......

[Bergtau]

...

I was commenting on the two possibilities that this role could have. If it was deemed to be too weak with speaking to everybody then the next step would be limiting who he was speaking to.

[Deantwo]

I was commenting on the two possibilities that this role could have. If it was deemed to be too weak with speaking to everybody then the next step would be limiting who he was speaking to.

ah ^^;

but yeah... making it so only TOWNIES could hear him would be very very overpowered...

i still don't see the issues people complain about... maybe it'd because all the setups i see have PMs disabled

then that only leave trolling as a reason... and that reason alone is silly... if someone wanna troll they can do that with ANY role

[Lazers]

All dis butthurt

























although Crier is pretty incompatible with the other current winners

[creedkingsx]

I was commenting on the two possibilities that this role could have. If it was deemed to be too weak with speaking to everybody then the next step would be limiting who he was speaking to.

It wouldn't be deemed too weak.
I've literally no idea where you would have gotten the idea that we would ever allow a singular role to only talk to town roles and night.


3-way tie

[Elixir]

This isn't a fucking forum mafia.

You legit don't need to start making voting hammer strats.

[Yayap]

Role Name



Armorsmith
delayed doc, balances well with pubs


Crier
easily confirmed town role OP


Enchantress
strats unsure...
lure who, repel who? most actions would hurt town more than mafia


Marshall
OP if no cits


Architect
pub short nights, mafia/mason dual chats causes problems


Hunter/Snitch
power only active when dead - boring


Timestopper
immune to rbs? 1 time ability that hurts town more than mafia (prevents all investigation info)



Yayap reads list, sees only PRs listed, where is the most important role? Citizen?
I'd like to see millers added.. aka Cits that appear evil to investigations but thinks he is a cit.

Out of those roles listed, I'd have to go with armorsmith for balance/mechanics reasons... however, I would add the hunter/snitch ability to Spy and remove the reading of PMs power to make spy more balanced and it fits well with the rp.

[Doresain]

however, I would add the hunter/snitch ability to Spy and remove the reading of PMs power to make spy more balanced and it fits well with the rp.

You just blew my mind. This is the best thing.

[Auckmid]

Yayap reads list, sees only PRs listed, where is the most important role? Citizen?
I'd like to see millers added.. aka Cits that appear evil to investigations but thinks he is a cit.


<----------------- Can't tell if trolling

[CmG]

There was a thread over a week ago where everybody had the chance to discuss the roles for this poll. You are all too late i fear. Also i like the idea to combine the spy with those things. reading pm's ability is silly and should be taken out of the game.

[louiswill]

You just blew my mind. This is the best thing.

+ 1, but I know many people dislike spy already.


There was a thread over a week ago where everybody had the chance to discuss the roles for this poll. You are all too late i fear. Also i like the idea to combine the spy with those things. reading pm's ability is silly and should be taken out of the game.

yea all too damn late, I had finale that damn week the thread comes out.

All suggestion got automatic turned down.

---It is too late, lets cry!

[creedkingsx]

however, I would add the hunter/snitch ability to Spy and remove the reading of PMs power to make spy more balanced and it fits well with the rp.

I like this very much.

[Doresain]

I like this very much.

Do Marshall and that. Done.

[Apache]

there is an option to disable pm read ability, so that shouldnt be taken out of the game. however there should be an option to disable the mafia chat read ability. then you can add the snitch ability (not hunter though because of the RP) (with option)
this would actually be pretty nice
but then we should add spy to town power (with exclude option) because they are so rare at the moment

[Talon]

I agree that Jester should get the Crier ability, it's a lot more annoying than the 'a crazy person annoyed you'

[Apache]

now it's tie between crier, architect and marshall. of all roles in the poll i'd like most armorsmith (i can really turn a game around when mafia thinks they already won) and marshall. since armorsmith has too few votes it should be marshall and enchantress/architect, rather enchantress, cause architect will be like: "hey i am the architect, tell me your roles guys"

[creedkingsx]

"hey i am the architect, tell me your roles guys"

And because the architect can't kill them or anything like that, I am sure they will gladly give their role.

[Lazers]

"hey i am the architect, tell me your roles guys"

that's not how it'd work

and the architect doesn't know who's who

[louiswill]

Since I think the modification of spy gonna work, I guess I do not have to vote crier. hmm how about arm smith...it sounds so chaotic.

[Voss]

Since I think the modification of spy gonna work, I guess I do not have to vote crier. hmm how about arm smith...it sounds so chaotic.

Vote marshall! Armorsmith isnt going to win

[Deantwo]

wish we had a better way of voting... this poll doesn't work when we are looking for a top two...

[Jim]

wish we had a better way of voting... this poll doesn't work when we are looking for a top two...

Ya but I think the only 2 ways voting works is either we can vote 1 or we can vote all, would be cool if we could vote 2 though.

[louiswill]

simply start another poll of "voting against" ~ will solve the issue just good.

Because if the top two faction vote against each other, the rest roles instantly win.

[Voss]

simply start another poll of "voting against" ~ will solve the issue just good.

Because if the top two faction vote against each other, the rest roles instantly win.

the only roles that are going to be voted against are the ones not being voted.

[Glip]

All I can say is that the public would absolutely hate Crier and Architect, whose only abilities are to just talk more. Crier will be hated more than Coroner, and only trolled with by those who don't immediately rolequit.

The SC2 Mafia community, sadly, does not want to talk. That's why days and nights are almost always at the minimum times and every role is a power role. They want a role they can do something with.

I urge the people voting here to vote not based on what YOU think would be fun, but what you think the SC2 Mafia community as a whole would want and enjoy playing.

[ypmagic]

crier. seems. op.

[Jim]

All I can say is that the public would absolutely hate Crier and Architect, whose only abilities are to just talk more. Crier will be hated more than Coroner, and only trolled with by those who don't immediately rolequit.

The SC2 Mafia community, sadly, does not want to talk. That's why days and nights are almost always at the minimum times and every role is a power role. They want a role they can do something with.

I urge the people voting here to vote not based on what YOU think would be fun, but what you think the SC2 Mafia community as a whole would want and enjoy playing.

Just think a 7 crier game.

[Deantwo]

All I can say is that the public would absolutely hate Crier and Architect, whose only abilities are to just talk more. Crier will be hated more than Coroner, and only trolled with by those who don't immediately rolequit.

The SC2 Mafia community, sadly, does not want to talk. That's why days and nights are almost always at the minimum times and every role is a power role. They want a role they can do something with.

I urge the people voting here to vote not based on what YOU think would be fun, but what you think the SC2 Mafia community as a whole would want and enjoy playing.

that is very very true... but the roles in the poll are horrible...

i mean... i don't see any of them being popular with the SC2Mafia community...

only role i think the SC2Mafia community would like is the Enchantress... cause you have lots of nice buttons to push...

[Apache]

only some hours left, i think we should start a runoff poll between architect, crier and marshall, because the other roles wont win anyway. that means all of those who voted an other role should change their vote to one of these 3. otherwise the vote of those people will be ignored and is worth nothing

[BorkBot]

that is very very true... but the roles in the poll are horrible...

i mean... i don't see any of them being popular with the SC2Mafia community...

only role i think the SC2Mafia community would like is the Enchantress... cause you have lots of nice buttons to push...

This is one of the main reasons why I was voting for it. It would also make a great addition for setups with confirmed witch and enchantress, notifications being on.

Even though I like Architect second best, my vote has since moved to Marshall just because I'd hate to see crier win. At least if it's second the devs can get away with saying "whelp, it works badly if we add both marshall and crier, so let's pick architect/enchantress as second role instead"

[Deantwo]

This is one of the main reasons why I was voting for it. It would also make a great addition for setups with confirmed witch and enchantress, notifications being on.

Even though I like Architect second best, my vote has since moved to Marshall just because I'd hate to see crier win. At least if it's second the devs can get away with saying "whelp, it works badly if we add both marshall and crier, so let's pick architect/enchantress as second role instead"

i'd much rather see some new roles... over half of the roles in this poll are bad...

namely Hunter/Snitch and Timestopper are useless... Armorsmith i just find weird... and lets face it... Glip is right... the SC2Mafia community would like is the Enchantress best cause it has the shiny buttons...

still think a Lawyer role that manipulate voting counts sound the most fun...

the SC2Mafia community want roles with shiny buttons that have to click at night...

[Lazers]

i'd much rather see some new roles... over half of the roles in this poll are bad...

namely Hunter/Snitch and Timestopper are useless... Armorsmith i just find weird... and lets face it... Glip is right... the SC2Mafia community would like is the Enchantress best cause it has the shiny buttons...

still think a Lawyer role that manipulate voting counts sound the most fun...

the SC2Mafia community want roles with shiny buttons that have to click at night...

Most people I know revile Bus Driver even though it has like a million buttons

Also are you guys seriously bashing Crier for what dipshit pubes will do with it

ha ha


PS enchantress is gay

[Slaol]

Why do I even care which role comes in first? lolwut.

[Deantwo]

Most people I know revile Bus Driver even though it has like a million buttons

Also are you guys seriously bashing Crier for what dipshit pubes will do with it

ha ha


PS enchantress is gay

my vote is still on Crier... but yes everyone think Crier will be bad cause of trolls...

[Slaol]

Crier and Marshall.