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Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 07:09 AM
Rules : http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/16045-Imperium-Proposal

Sign ups ( you can still sign-up during the game ) :

Horizont Industries ( Gingerape)
New 'Merica ( Brendan )
#Far Eastern Trade Consortium ( Nick )
#Latin Pride ( MintBerryCrunch ).

8428 Map
Backgrounds :
Far Eastern Trade Consortium : Far Eastern Trade Consortium

A tripartite alliance of aristocratic states masquerading under the guise of plutocracy. Exports bullets, imports territories. Their slogan is "For trade and commerce".
Ok , now i say how this stuff works :
1 You write the orders of attack moves and the land claims in the thread in within 24 Hours ( if you will have a sure problem of moving , just say to me that you automatize that turn ) with this template :
Attacking phase:

{locationA}, {#} armies -> {locationB}

Production phase:

Production points:
{carryover} + {this turn} = {total production}

{locationA}, {production type}, {points used}
{locationB}, {production type}, {points used}
{locationC}, {production type}, {points used}
{locationD}, {production type}, {points used}
ecc.
Production points:
{total production} - {total used} = {production remaining}

2 I will process the moving and the claims
3 When i will placed the Role Play part in the thread , a new turn begins

Becuase i don' t have a background for the nations , we just start now , if you want to send it , just pm me eith the background of the nation

Admiral
January 2nd, 2013, 12:40 PM
Selling War Taxes, 100 gold per. PM me for details.

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 12:42 PM
Stop trying my patience and get off from here

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 11:06 PM
Anyway , here you must say your orders of move and attack , you have 5 armies for starting , you can claim the terrain zones in the same water zone ( otherwise you get fleets ) , and , if you want , evenvthe diplomatic action .

Have a nice play !

Jim
January 2nd, 2013, 11:09 PM
My name is "#LatinPride" get it right.

Nick
January 2nd, 2013, 11:11 PM
Btw, it's South Korea. Not North Korea.

How does attacking work?
How do we attack unoccupied areas?
How do we attack occupied areas?


#Far Eastern Trade Consortium

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 11:17 PM
1 After you send armies in an occupied territory who isn' t of one of your allies , then you are attacking it ( quite silly , but..) , after the move , i will roll the dices ( 1 per army attacking or defending ) and doing just the same thing as Risk ( confront of the higest dices , seeing the stealmates and so on )
2 The unoccučied areas are simply run over by your army(ies) : just place your army(ies) in the territory and it's yours .
3 Move your armies in an non-allied occupied area and let's roll

Brendan
January 2nd, 2013, 11:18 PM
I will sign a treaty with Nick and Mintberry to wipe Gingerape off of the map. I want to be called "New 'Merica".

Jim
January 2nd, 2013, 11:21 PM
I use my 5 armys to take the 5 regions east of me.

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 11:23 PM
At least one army must remain in a territory , please read the rules , so , you take a territory

Brendan
January 2nd, 2013, 11:24 PM
I will take Iceland

Jim
January 2nd, 2013, 11:28 PM
At least one army must remain in a territory , please read the rules , so , you take a territory

Fine take 4 territory eas of me with my 4 armies.

Brendan
January 2nd, 2013, 11:28 PM
North America is mine Mint. You can have South America and Africa.

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 11:32 PM
Mint , that means that you cna take over a territory with one army

Gingerape
January 2nd, 2013, 11:34 PM
I think we start with 5 armies and we have to put one army in each of those, only leaving us 1 army leftover to attack with? x.x

Brendan noo. I'll let you have russia

Nick
January 2nd, 2013, 11:35 PM
Turn 1

Army placement
Central China: 1
East Coast of China:1
South Korea: 1
Kyushu: 2

Army attacks:
Kyushu -> Shizuoka/Kanagawa/Tokyo/Chiba


How to produce?

Brendan
January 2nd, 2013, 11:36 PM
You have 4 territories and 5 armies. 1 army has to remain in each territory you control. So you can only capture one territory with the extra army.

Nick
January 2nd, 2013, 11:41 PM
I will sign a treaty with Nick and Mintberry to wipe Gingerape off of the map. I want to be called "New 'Merica".

Far Eastern Trade Consortium has turned down your offer.

Make trade, not war!

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 11:42 PM
Turn 1

Army placement
Central China: 1
East Coast of China:1
South Korea: 1
Kyushu: 2

Army attacks:
Tokyo


How to produce?

Ok , the production is did by Production point ( you have 5at the start ) , you produce armies at the end of move phase , with production point the basic fuction is create armies ( 1 army por point ) , but in the rules are explained even the advanced fuctions of the production points .
Each territory produce 1 pp , the crossroads insted produce 3 , the crossroads are the territories with the purple dot and are one of way of win

Nick
January 2nd, 2013, 11:44 PM
So do I have 7 instead? Or I start at 5?

Brendan
January 2nd, 2013, 11:45 PM
I think we start with 5 armies and we have to put one army in each of those, only leaving us 1 army leftover to attack with? x.x

Brendan noo. I'll let you have russia

I cannot get to Russia without going through you... ):

Brendan
January 2nd, 2013, 11:46 PM
I'm assuming we all start with 5.

Gzz
January 2nd, 2013, 11:46 PM
You start 5 as all players

Gingerape
January 2nd, 2013, 11:58 PM
I cannot get to Russia without going through you... ):

): i thought you were the grey italy guy.
just take america then >.<

Gingerape
January 2nd, 2013, 11:59 PM
Ooh!
I wanna be called Horizon Industries.

Nick
January 2nd, 2013, 11:59 PM
Turn 1

Army placement
Central China: 1
East Coast of China:1
South Korea: 1
Kyushu: 2

Army attacks:
Tokyo

Production
5 armies

Army placement
Central China: 1 + 2
East Coast of China:1 + 1
South Korea: 1 + 1
Kyushu: 1
Tokyo: 1 + 1

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 12:06 AM
IT seems that everyone has moved , now just sya your producing

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 12:07 AM
I didnt move T-T

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 12:08 AM
Britanne - 1
Eire - 1
Galles - 1
London - 2

and then i attack from london to the place south of that.

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 12:25 AM
I will produce armies. Can we choose where they go? Where are the purple dots? Are those the pathways across the oceans?

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 12:27 AM
1 Yes
2 They are the Crossroads , read the rules for more
3 No , they are confining the sea zones , you cna go to one spot to another if you pass across the same sea zone , otherwise your armies turns fleets

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 12:33 AM
I see no dots. :(

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 12:52 AM
Do i have to say i will produce armies to produce armies?
i will produce armies.

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 12:58 AM
Yes , and how many

Nick
January 3rd, 2013, 01:05 AM
Yes , and how many

You should just create a template for us to fill up. Faster that way.

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 01:09 AM
But how ? Execel Page ?

Nick
January 3rd, 2013, 01:17 AM
Eg.


Attacking phase:

{locationA}, {#} armies -> {locationB}

Production phase:

Production points:
{carryover} + {this turn} = {total production}

{locationA}, {production type}, {points used}
{locationB}, {production type}, {points used}
{locationC}, {production type}, {points used}
{locationD}, {production type}, {points used}

Production points:
{total production} - {total used} = {production remaining}

Someone need to record the moves to avoid confusion later...

Nick: You have only 1 army in that location.
Brendan: I have 10 armies!
Gingerape: I dunno...

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 01:23 AM
Well , i will record all , no problem .

Anyway , added the template for orders in the first post , when you are all ready we arrive to the next turn

Nick
January 3rd, 2013, 01:33 AM
#Far Eastern Trade Consortium

A tripartite alliance of aristocratic states masquerading under the guise of plutocracy. Exports bullets, imports territories. Their slogan is "For trade and commerce".

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 02:31 AM
Ok , last hours to posting your productions , moves and attacks

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 03:27 AM
i'll produce 5 armies too then. o.o

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 03:31 AM
Only Brendan remains to act , and.... Ginger , where you place your armies ?

Admiral
January 3rd, 2013, 05:44 AM
Is anybody selling space programs? I would like to be the first to reach the moon. I will trade one unit of both war taxes AND propaganda.

For my turn I will take the bahamas by force and fortify on Cuba.

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 06:04 AM
Ignore him , he is not part of the game

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 09:45 AM
Ok , the first turn as passed , i let me automatize for now the production turn of Gingerape and the turn of Brendan and Mintberry , over to speed up the things a bit , for explain the cities and the commercial hubs :
The cities ( brown dot ) costs 3 production points and give you 2 production point and a free army
The commercial hub ( grey triangle ) costs 5 and gives you 3 production points and can be captured .


ok , now the report :

THE ITALY OBSERVER

The Trade Consortium Take Over the Japan Governament :
TOKYO , JAPAN It's the dawn of a new era in Japan : the Far East Trade Consortium have in fact assaulted Tokyo and killed all head of state , now there is a puppet state , under the control of the
contol of the Funder Family of Consortium , but not every city as surrended : in fact , the Northen and Souther Japan have created an united front for defending themselves from the invader .

A New Secular War ?
PARIS , FRANCE The recent actions for taking the Borgougne from the legetimate govern of France by the Horizont Industries as succeded : after a long battle in Djion , the mercenaries have destroyed the capitol andplaced over his ruins his flag with his symbol , actually , the Paris govern is reconsidering the idea of letting the Bretagne territory under the Horizont Industries , but they are too much scared of a full-scale attack on Paris : in fat the industires of London have returned to work , meaning that now can give to his soldiers even more weapons

Mystery in Brazil
BRASILIA , BRAZIL The Brazil Govern is worried : the tribes of the deeper forest have organized together and started to raid the woodcutters , the strange thing is that the tribes have very modern weapon , something not so common in the Amazonic Jungle.... the Brazilian Head of State have started a legal cause with both the Consortium and the Horizont Industries , who both negates the partecipating in giving weapons to the natives .
Some element of Ecologist Party have been arrested after he tried to move on the united tribes to research even more men for the army , but , unluckly for the Brazil , some Ecologist joined the indios , who have now like 3200 soldiers ready for battle .
After a satellite sweep , the autorites saw a commercial hub in the middle of the forest : they don' t know if the weapons came from it , but they will keep an eye on it .

The New Merica claims Iceland
Rekyavijik , Iceland After days and days of fight in the streets , the Iceland Govern has fallen : all the ministers were killed yesterday with a shot in the head , and the Head of State was decapitated and his head showed in the streets . Our jornalist team has asked to a normal inhabitant of the capital city and he said “ New Merica is just a bunch of semi-primitve people with no respect for anyone : they even shoed the head of my beloved president , and... they pissed in it !” .
We don' t know if that voices are true , but we are sure that this won' t stop the expansion.

New Geopolitical situation : 8439

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 10:29 AM
T-T i wanted to attack to the south not to the east. and i wanted all my armies in my new territory

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 10:38 AM
Well , you weren' t clear aboaut where place it , so...

anyway , it's turn 2 , say your moves

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 11:13 AM
I claim Western, Central and Southern Spain and Morocco.

Nation name: "The Spanish Inquisition"

Colour: Red

Description:
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms.

Place 1 army in each province, 2 in Morocco.

Attacking phase:

Morocco, 1 army -> Northern Algeria

Production phase:

Production points:
0 + 5 = 5

Western Spain, Build City, -3 points
Morocco, Produce Army, -1 point
Morocco, Produce Army, -1 point

Production points:
5 - 5 = 0

(or do I get extra points to spend for a late entrance? :) )

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 11:18 AM
Is it possible to produce armies in a territory you will conquer the same turn? Or can you only place them in territories you already own?

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 11:26 AM
You can produce armies in a territory you have already conquered

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 12:08 PM
Then what Gingerape wanted to do wasn't possible anyway :p

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 12:11 PM
Who owns Italy? I want an alliance with them because the Pope lives somewhere around there.

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 12:14 PM
You can produce armies in a territory you have already conquered

This is in contradiction with your update of the map by placing 6 armies in the Belgium/Southern Netherlands region.

Gingerape didn't conquer it before this turn, so new armies couldn't be produced there yet?

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 12:19 PM
In sense that you can produce an army in a territory conquered i nthe same turn .

Still , Italy is just flavor thing , you will see later

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 12:26 PM
Ok then, I'll change my production to:

Production points:
0 + 5 = 5

Western Spain, Build City, -3 points
Morocco, Produce Army, -1 point
Northern Algeria, Produce Army, -1 point

Production points:
5 - 5 = 0

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 12:40 PM
Are we on turn two? ^-^
I wanna attack the four places around the territory I have 6 people in. I don't know the names v.v
And then i wanna attack once more east to get the purple dot thing.

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 12:45 PM
Are we on turn two? ^-^
I wanna attack the four places around the territory I have 6 people in. I don't know the names v.v
And then i wanna attack once more east to get the purple dot thing.

You can't attack 2 steps away in one turn..

At least, that'd be really stupid if it were possible lol. It'd be a double move action for one army.

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 12:49 PM
I want to take everything north of gingerape. ^.^

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 12:50 PM
I will build two cites because I only produced 2 armies last turn.

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 12:50 PM
In iceland

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 12:53 PM
ginger can we share your purple dots? :D

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 01:04 PM
No, there's 3 in America, take those. x.x

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 01:06 PM
You can't attack 2 steps away in one turn..

At least, that'd be really stupid if it were possible lol. It'd be a double move action for one army.

Ok well just the 4 places around me and put the extra guy in the east territory so i can get the purple dot next turn

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 01:22 PM
omg pls ginger!!

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 01:24 PM
So , you take Paris , West Germany , Borgugne and the Ardenne .

( ps Brendan , you can still declare war )

Jim
January 3rd, 2013, 01:24 PM
I keep building armies cus I will winner.

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 01:25 PM
So , it's 7 Armies produced , while Ginger has 14 production point ( and can take a tech for 10 production ) .

Nick has 11 prodction points , so Rockzo , and.. brendan has 5 production points

Ash
January 3rd, 2013, 01:27 PM
POPCORN POPCORN! SELLING POPCORN! POPCORN POPCORN! SELLING POPCORN IN ALL SIZES!
http://www.buttercuppopcorn.com/popcorn%20bucketsCOB.jpg

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 01:48 PM
omg pls ginger!!

if i let you have all my purple dots then i'll die. i was gonna let you but borkbot just randomly joined and took where i was going

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 01:56 PM
if i let you have all my purple dots then i'll die. i was gonna let you but borkbot just randomly joined and took where i was going

I want to share them not take them. I think we can do that. :o

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 01:57 PM
He can give you a territory or some points , but you can' t propely share the points

BorkBot
January 3rd, 2013, 03:11 PM
Just go capture land towards Florida, Brendan. There's nobody in North America at all.

I want to propose a peace pact to Gingerape. No obligations other than not attacking each other for the time being, so we have time to build up.

Whether we expand on that later can be decided later. Spain and Northern Africa are my current targets. I won't touch France.

Jim
January 3rd, 2013, 03:30 PM
I declare that South America is mine, that is all cus I have Latin Pride and Brendan can have the Central America and the islands.
(I get everything on the eaestern side of the panama canal)

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 09:03 PM
ok i take teh north merica then.

Gzz
January 3rd, 2013, 10:37 PM
It seems a paceful game... It won' t last long....

Nick
January 3rd, 2013, 10:50 PM
Attacking phase:
Central China, 1 army -> Mongolia
Central China, 1 army -> Manchuria
East Coast of China, 1 army -> South Peninsular Malaysia
South Korea, 1 army -> North Korea
Tokyo, 1 army -> Hokkaido

Production phase:

Production points = 0 (carryover) + 11 (base) + 7 (new territories gained) = 18

Production: 18 armies

South Peninsular Malaysia: 6 armies
Mongolia: 4 armies
East Coast of China: 4 armies
Manchuria: 4 armies

Brendan
January 3rd, 2013, 10:53 PM
omg i give up nick wins gg

Jim
January 3rd, 2013, 11:06 PM
I blame Gzz for not giving me the 4 starting spots I was refering to.
When is our next turn?

Gingerape
January 3rd, 2013, 11:41 PM
I have 2 armies in the territory next to the purple dot i want. why cant i attack with it ;-;

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 12:12 AM
At next turn you will have it .

Still , Mintberry , and how i can say what did you wanted ? I automatized your turn becausev you didn' t said wherev you wanted to move , your starting armies disposition...
Same goes for Brendan

Brendan
January 4th, 2013, 01:33 AM
i ally with ginger and mint. we are best friends. ginger take europe. mint get south america. I get north merica. We must stop the chinese.

Nick
January 4th, 2013, 02:15 AM
I will sign a treaty with Nick and Mintberry to wipe Gingerape off of the map. I want to be called "New 'Merica".


i ally with ginger and mint. we are best friends. ginger take europe. mint get south america. I get north merica. We must stop the chinese.

Quoted for Gingerape's and Mint's reference.

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 02:21 AM
ALL for place an embargo on Nick , uhu ?

Admiral
January 4th, 2013, 02:23 AM
I will ally myself with Mint. Provide my people safety and I will give you all the war taxes and propaganda you need to oppress the shit out of everyone else.

Also I shall save my 5 production points to research SPACE later.

Brendan
January 4th, 2013, 02:27 AM
Quoted for Gingerape's and Mint's reference.

you refused my alliance.

Gingerape
January 4th, 2013, 03:16 AM
14 Production Points.

3 Armies in Ireland
3 Armies in East(west?) Germany

14 - 6 = 8

Nick
January 4th, 2013, 04:51 AM
Attacking phase:
Central China, 1 army -> Mongolia
Central China, 1 army -> Manchuria
East Coast of China, 1 army -> South Peninsular Malaysia
South Korea, 1 army -> North Korea
Tokyo, 1 army -> Hokkaido

Production phase:

Production points = 0 (carryover) + 11 (base) + 7 (new territories gained) = 18

Production: 18 armies

South Peninsular Malaysia: 6 armies
Mongolia: 4 armies
East Coast of China: 4 armies
Manchuria: 4 armies

Turn 2

Seems like we get production points at the start of the turn?

If that is the case...

Production points: 11

South Peninsular Malaysia: 4 armies
Mongolia: 3 armies
East Coast of China: 2 armies
Manchuria: 2 armies

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 04:57 AM
Yes , you gain it at the start of the turn .

When the 24 hours will pass , you will have a surprise....

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 09:49 AM
Turn 2
New Geopolitical situation 8462
Well , it seem that now will start the first war of this game...

BorkBot
January 4th, 2013, 12:15 PM
Are the tiny white bits in the center-north and at the very bottom of Spain separate provinces or did you just not colour them?

And why is the first war starting now? I'm not sure what changed. Gingerape and Brendan were already adjacent to each other in the last turn.

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 12:44 PM
Are the tiny white bits in the center-north and at the very bottom of Spain separate provinces or did you just not colour them?

And why is the first war starting now? I'm not sure what changed. Gingerape and Brendan were already adjacent to each other in the last turn.

Yes , the Southern is Gibilteir , the other bits are other separated provinces .

still , i was saying that the first war IGHT start now

BorkBot
January 4th, 2013, 01:11 PM
Is the center-north bit easy to defend, like central Spain?

Do neutral/easy to defend territories require 2 armies to take them or just 1?

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 01:13 PM
Just 1

BorkBot
January 4th, 2013, 01:21 PM
The number of armies you have listed for me for western Spain seems to be incorrect. It should be 2, because:

cities production cost 3 points and give a free army +2 point production

I will use that army to take the center-north bit of Spain this turn though.

Brendan
January 4th, 2013, 01:44 PM
I have two cities right?

Gingerape
January 4th, 2013, 01:45 PM
I have two cities right?

And I have 0 fucks.

Brendan
January 4th, 2013, 01:51 PM
And I have 0 fucks.

wow ginger you tryin to start somethin?

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 01:55 PM
Nope , Brendan , you have 0 cities


( it was a lapsus , brendan )

Brendan
January 4th, 2013, 01:57 PM
Nope , Brendan , you have 0 armies


I will build two cites because I only produced 2 armies last turn.


In iceland
wut

Gingerape
January 4th, 2013, 01:57 PM
Nope , Brendan , you have 0 armies

I wanna take over the purple dot and the rest of england

BorkBot
January 4th, 2013, 09:23 PM
Are the Balearic Islands to the east of Spain a conquerable province? And if yes, what provinces do they connect to? What about Corsica, Sardinia and the canary islands west of Morocco?

Assuming we can start posting our actions...


Attacking phase:
Western Spain, 1 army -> Mid-Northern Spain
Northern Algeria, 1 army -> Northern Tunisia


Production phase:

Production points:
0 + 11 = 11

Southern&Eastern Spain, Produce 2 Armies, -2 points
Morocco, Produce 2 Armies, -2 points
Northern Tunisia, Produce 3 Armies, -3 points
Northern Algeria, Build City, -3 points

Production points:
11 - 10 = 1


Keeping 1 point in reserve depending on the islands question.

Nick
January 4th, 2013, 11:22 PM
South Peninsular Malaysia: 4 armies


Why do you give me Indochina?

It's should be the place with a purple dot. Should be connected to East Coast of China.

Jim
January 4th, 2013, 11:26 PM
Gzz I will build armies cus why stop now and take the 3 spots East and If any remain start taking North.

Gzz
January 4th, 2013, 11:49 PM
Are the Balearic Islands to the east of Spain a conquerable province? And if yes, what provinces do they connect to? What about Corsica, Sardinia and the canary islands west of Morocco?

Assuming we can start posting our actions...
.

Well, the thing is simple : the lesser island ( like the Baelearic ) are attached to a region , the bigger one are a region por se ( for the matter Malta is an exeception : he is a self-sustaining region )

Nick
January 4th, 2013, 11:56 PM
Why do you give me Indochina?

It's should be the place with a purple dot. Should be connected to East Coast of China.

Not Indochina/Vietnam/Laos. I want South Peninsular Malaysia/Malacca/Kuala Lumpur/Johor.

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 12:13 AM
Fixed

Nick
January 5th, 2013, 12:30 AM
Thanks.

I noticed that the regions I named are all wrong...

All regions base army = 1
South Peninsular Malaysia: +4 armies
Mongolia (Inner Mongolia): +3 armies
East Coast of China: +2 armies
Manchuria (Beijing): +2 armies


Production points = 18

Attacking phase:

Mongolia (Inner Mongolia) -> West of Gansu (lower left)
Mongolia (Inner Mongolia) -> Golvi-Altai/Khovd (upper left)
Mongolia (Inner Mongolia) -> Xi'an (bottom right)
East Coast of China -> Indochina (bottom)
East Coast of China -> Chongqing (top)
Manchuria (Beijing) -> Qiqihar (top right)
Manchuria (Beijing) -> Sukhbaatar (top left)
South Peninsular Malaysia -> South India
South Peninsular Malaysia -> North Borneo
South Peninsular Malaysia -> Central Sumatra
South Peninsular Malaysia -> Bangladesh/etc.

Production: 18 armies
West of Gansu (lower left): 2
Golvi-Altai/Khovd (upper left): 2
Xi'an (bottom right): 2
Chongqing (top): 2
Qiqihar (top right): 2
Sukhbaatar (top left): 2
South India: 4
North Borneo: 1
Bangladesh/etc.: 1

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 12:51 AM
Wow , that's a lot of armies : i'm certain that first or late the Europe might be ovveruned

Nick
January 5th, 2013, 12:55 AM
Wow , that's a lot of armies : i'm certain that first or late the Europe might be ovveruned

"Trade" is key. "Commerce" is most production point efficient.

For capitalism!

Can they stop the evil Asians?

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 07:08 AM
Brendan , do you want that i aoutomatixe your turn ?

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 09:46 AM
Well, the thing is simple : the lesser island ( like the Baelearic ) are attached to a region , the bigger one are a region por se ( for the matter Malta is an exeception : he is a self-sustaining region )

Are the canary islands part of another region? Is it possible to move from Sardinia directly into eastern Spain and Northern Tunisia?

The number of armies on Southern&Eastern Spain is wrong, it should be 3 (I produced 2 armies on top of the 1 already stationed there). And if I understood what you said correctly, I don't own the absolutely tiny bit in Southern Spain you are pointing at with that line yet.


Gzz I will build armies cus why stop now and take the 3 spots East and If any remain start taking North.
The map doesn't look like you have enough spare armies in your eastern regions to attack those places until the next turn.

Can your armies be moved freely between your own provinces, or only one region/one step at a time just like attacks? When does this happen? During the attack phase?

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 10:05 AM
The Canarias are part of the Sarahwi Region .
The Sardinia is a Bigger island , so you must take it before .
You Own Gibiltear , and doing so let you with 2 armies in Souther Spain , but if you want i simply cancel them ove and you will have 3 armies in Southern Spain

About the move phase : you can move freely in your territory dring the attack phase , this AFTER attacking .


Now , new turn , and a truly news :

TURN 3


The Italian Observer

Attack on Eire : 3000 deads and around 540 missing .
Yesterday the Minister of War of New America was fired and executed after his order of attack the Eire with the 3° Tank Regiment and the 10th , 430th and 600th Infantry Regiment : his blizkrieg coaused at first the loss of control over the Norther Erie by the Horizont Industires , but soon after the militiats responded , forcing the invasion to retreat at Dublin .
There are some tratacitves between the Horizont Industires and th New America Govern , but they seems near to break down , causing a full-scale war

The New Golden Horde :
Today the representants of Horizont Industries , New America and the Spanish Inquisition have met for decide what to do about the fast-growing Far Eastern Trade Consortium , who have managed to control the govern of China , South and North Korea , Japan and a lot of states of the Asiatic South-East and cliented the south of India , the Myammar and the Indonesia .
The Spansih Inquisition suggested to counter attack and destroy their erethic empire with all the forces ; the Horizont Industries said that they might be useful for an alliance , but they are not sure of this and the New Merica representive proposed to just fortifity the actual positions and hope for the best , but after the attack on the Eire , the Horizont industires accuses the New America of setting up an entual conquest by itself and the Inquisition rejected the option as “cowardly”
The Consortium said that their intentions is just trade , but because one of the motto of one family is “export bullets , import power” this comunicate isn' t trustable .



The End of Brazil :
It's done : the Brazil govern has fallen under the power of the raging indios , who stolen the weapons and attacked Brasilia with ferocity : the civilian losses are uncountable and most of the city was reduced to ruin . The Factories were burned to ground by the ecologist , and the indios took the heads of the deads and shrunk them .
The actual intention of the “Latin Pride” , as they call themselves , are unknown , but surely they are very xenophobic : in fact , they closed their borders and kicked out from the hotels the tourists .

the results are :
4 armies attacking from Iceland to Eire vs 4 Armies stationating there .
Dice rolls ( attacker ) : 6 , 1 , 1 , 5
Dice Rolls ( defender ) : 6 , 2 , 3 , 4

3 Armies Lost by Attacker , 1 lost from by defender .


New Geopolitical Situation : 8465

Nick
January 5th, 2013, 10:39 AM
Wrong location for

North Borneo: 1
Bangladesh/etc.: 1

but I'll just use what you have drawn.

Turn 3 actions:

Attack phase: refer to map

Production phase: 25 armies, placement refer to map

8468

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 10:48 AM
How did mintberry take those 2 territories without armies in his adjacent territories to attack them? He would have to move troops first, and you say this happens after attacking? Or can you immediately attack a region with troops that are stationed anywhere in your territories, no matter the distance?


You Own Gibiltear , and doing so let you with 2 armies in Souther Spain , but if you want i simply cancel them ove and you will have 3 armies in Southern Spain
I don't think that's fair because I didn't have any regions with 2 armies in it necessary to attack it in the last turn, so you'd be giving me a free production point. I will take it this turn.

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 10:50 AM
How is Nick taking territories that aren't even adjacent to his own, nor connected by any lines/sea routes? i.e. Southern India?

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 10:52 AM
He can do it , it's prefectly legal .

Well , as you wish , count a production point less .

Nick has moved by Water : Souther India is in the same Water Zone of the Borneo

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 11:10 AM
Does the Suez canal separate two regions or is that one large region?

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 11:13 AM
Same Region

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 11:16 AM
Same Region
Is that a purple dot on the Suez canal or is it just narrow water?

Does East Yemen give access to the Red Sea? Or only the Gulf of Aden?

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 11:17 AM
Only to the Gulf

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Yes Nick I'm going to try to deny you access to the mediterranean :p

Nick
January 5th, 2013, 11:36 AM
My 3 traders in Yemen will visit to Egypt next turn. I believe my trade goods will sway their mind.

I see that Gingerape was being attacked by Brendan the forked-tongue. Gingerape will need some purple dots soon to hold of Brendan. Spain is ripe for picking while its owner is busy elsewhere.

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 12:05 PM
My 3 traders in Yemen will visit to Egypt next turn. I believe my trade goods will sway their mind.

Impossible, because the host just told me that you don't have access to the Red Sea, so you need 2 more turns to get there. One to take western Yemen, then another to invade Egypt.

I'm taking Egypt now because I am already on the Mediterranean. I'll have just enough time to secure that area. I only need Mintberry and Gingerape to not backstab me.. and you know it :p

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 12:09 PM
Well , Mintberry can't do much por se now...

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Well , Mintberry can't do much por se now...

True, but next turn he could.

I'm still debating where exactly to send my armies and how to spend my production points this turn. It's a critical moment.

Brendan
January 5th, 2013, 04:28 PM
I'm withdrawing from the game. Mint can have my territories.

BorkBot
January 5th, 2013, 05:35 PM
Does Turkey have a purple dot? I see something in the northwest corner and I'm not sure what it is.

Gzz
January 5th, 2013, 11:04 PM
It's the Bosfor strect , and it is a crossroad

Nick
January 6th, 2013, 05:43 AM
Brendan died during the retreat from the failed attack of Ireland.

Gzz
January 6th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Well , i'm waiting the build decision and the total turn of Ginger

BorkBot
January 6th, 2013, 11:35 AM
Attacking phase:
South&East Spain, 1 army -> Gibraltar
South&East Spain, 1 army -> Catalonia
Northern Tunisia, 1 army -> Turkey
Northern Tunisia, 1 army -> Israel (purple dot)
Northern Tunisia, 1 army -> Suez Canal (Egypt & Western bit of Saudi Arabia)
Morocco, 1 army -> Western Algeria (the large, easily defended area)
Morocco, 1 army -> Western Sahara
Northern Algeria, 1 army -> Western Tunisia (connects to the southeast of North Algeria)

BorkBot
January 6th, 2013, 07:09 PM
Production phase:

Production points:
1 + 17 = 18

Central Spain, Build City, -3 points
Gibraltar, Build City, -3 points
Western Tunisia, Build City, -3 points
Western Algeria, Build City, -3 points
Suez Canal, Build City, -3 points
Turkey, Build City, -3 points

Production points:
18 - 18 = 0

Gzz
January 7th, 2013, 09:14 AM
Turn 3


The Italy Observer

The Countdown
Today the Spanish Inquisition as formely declared war to the Far East Trade Consortium , after seeing that he took over the Yemen , meaningthat in less than a week the Far Est Consortium will see the Mediterrean , and for the Spanish Inquisition , that will mean a try for taking over the Europe , thing that the Inquisition want to avoid at all costs . Actually , the Inquisition has equipped all his troops with their best equipement , for try to stop the Asiatic Horde .

The North New Papua Guinea Rises
After the revolution on Brazil by the indios , the last tribes of the New Papua Guinea has risen for his indipendency , the Latin Pride , however , negates that he gave the weapons to the locals , thougt this is quite discutible .
Still , the Consortium is worried about the intentions of the indigenous : they might attack one of the puppet states , and if that happens , it will be the end of the Oligarchy

New America Dissolves
It's done : the last ex-americans has surrended to the Horizont Industries , who counter-attacked with true ferocity , killing every men , woman and child ; now the Greenland is under the control of the Denemark again , but no one knows for how much....



New Geopolitical Situation : 8527

BorkBot
January 7th, 2013, 10:33 AM
Does the Suez canal separate two regions or is that one large region?


Same Region

And now it's separate regions, meaning I didn't get Egypt as you said I would if I attacked that region.

I didn't build cities in center-north Spain and Western Sahara. I did build cities in Western Tunisia and Central Spain and Gibraltar.

Troops in Southern & Eastern Spain are not displayed.

Nick didn't get half the regions he attacked, produced nothing and some of the regions near him changed shapes?

Mintberry Crunch did not have any spare armies in coastal territories, nor in any territories directly connected to them. According to the rules..


Movement: you have the ability to move as many armies / floats you want in an adjacent Territory, but at least one army must stay in a territory who you own

This should mean his taking a region in West Africa this turn is impossible, because he would need to build armies or move troops to the coast before he could attack overseas.

Even worse, Mintberry Crunch only had 2 territories with a reserve army in them to attack with, yet he somehow gained 8 territories. This is the second time this happens...

In a strategy game like this, it's key that the rules are clear and set in stone. Otherwise you can't make informed decisions and it all becomes rather random, which defeats the purpose.

I'm not sure if I want to keep playing like this.

Nick
January 7th, 2013, 09:12 PM
How did Mint even reach West Papua?

Jim
January 11th, 2013, 05:29 PM
I move 1 troop to the area south of The west Africa crossing spot.
1 troop to the area underneath my South American crossing to Africa
I will take the North east corner of South America
All resources go into troop manufacturing
All extra troops moved to west african country bordering the red guy for protection.