Survival Quest #2

[Espozito]

I know there are already SQ2 and 3, but they were stolen, so this is an official one.


DON'T LEAVE THE THREAD, GAME HAS CHANGED A BIT!


So, 10-15 players gather together and solve puzzles.

1. Each player has 4 lives only
2. There are 24 hours to solve the puzzle. The one who won't send his solution on time will lose 1 life.
3. Solutions are sent to me in PM.
4. You have 1 guess only. If it's right, you pass the puzzle and go farther. If it's wrong, you still continue the game but you lose 1 life.
5. This time there will be no stupid RP puzzles, only using your mind.

After there are 10 players, they must vote in private for the Puzzle theme (one of the suggested) then the game begins.
If the game has already begun and there are still some extra spots, you can still join in Part 2, but then you start with 3 lives only.



Survivors:

1. Fatalis The Ninja
2. Damus_.Graves
3. Ash STILL SURVIVALIST
4. Roflcopter Simply Awesome
5. creedkingsx The Peacemaker
6. RLVG The Newcomer
7. Glip The First Champion
8. Gzz The Curious Mind
9. Jr4life24 The Eye
10. zingo1zang The Extremist

Extra-spots:

1. SuperJack The Doctah
2. 42shadow42
3.
4.
5.




Part 1. Lost (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=261645&viewfull=1#post261645) (Ending (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=263401&viewfull=1#post263401))

Part 2. Cursed Empire (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=265177&viewfull=1#post265177) (Ending (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=267349&viewfull=1#post267349))

Part 3. Under the Pressure (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=267349&viewfull=1#post267349) (Ending (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=279599&viewfull=1#post279599))

Part 4. Let's Play Archeology (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=279608&viewfull=1#post279608) (Ending)




Puzzle themes:

Alien Spaceship
Pyramid Maze
Jungle Planecrashing
Magical Forest

[Fatalis]

/NINJA POWERED SIGN

[Damus_Graves]

.sign

[Ash]

/signed I'M A SURVIVALIST
ASH THE SURVIVALIST
MASTER ASH
SURVIVOR OF THE APOCALYPSE
SURVIVOR OF 2012
SURVIVOR OF ZOMBIE OUTBREAKS
SURVIVOR OF MAFIA GAMES
SURVIVOR OF POLLUTION
SURVIVOR OF NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS

ok srsly, if someone doesn't send in their answer in time, you should make it so that they lose 1 life instead of being modkilled. also can people win together with other people? i thought the last puzzle was going to end until there was only 1 man standing

[Espozito]

/signed I'M A SURVIVALIST
ASH THE SURVIVALIST
MASTER ASH
SURVIVOR OF THE APOCALYPSE
SURVIVOR OF 2012
SURVIVOR OF ZOMBIE OUTBREAKS
SURVIVOR OF MAFIA GAMES
SURVIVOR OF POLLUTION
SURVIVOR OF NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS

ok srsly, if someone doesn't send in their answer in time, you should make it so that they lose 1 life instead of being modkilled. also can people win together with other people? i thought the last puzzle was going to end until there was only 1 man standing

ok, no modkill, 1 life loss.

[Roflcopter]

/le sign

[creedkingsx]

/sign

[RLVG]

/RLVG the Newcomer

[Glip]

/Glip, the Reigning Champion

[Gzz]

-Sign Gzz the Curios Mind

[Fatalis]

Glip is infected......... watch out guys I'm warning you

[Jr4life24]

/sign

[Ash]

Do we vote now?

[Damus_Graves]

Magical Forest\\
My vote

Why don't I gotta subtitle :(

[Ash]

\\
My vote

Why don't I gotta subtitle :(
because u didnt specify for one. u should ask espozito to come up with 1 for u.

Damus the Emo?
Damus the Nigger?
Damus the Big Black Rapist?
Damus the Ex-Adventurer who took an arrow to the Knee?

[Damus_Graves]

because u didnt specify for one. u should ask espozito to come up with 1 for u.

Damus the Emo?
Damus the Nigger?
Damus the Big Black Rapist?
Damus the Ex-Adventurer who took an arrow to the Knee?

U racist.

I'll let Esp choose :p

[RLVG]

Ash the Emo?
Ash the Nigger?
Ash the Big Black Rapist?
ash the Ex-Adventurer who took an arrow to the Knee?

Karma.

[Espozito]

One more Survivor. Once someone signs-up, even if I don't appear that time you can PM me your Theme choice.

[zingo1zang]

/sign

The Extremist

and i'd prefer this rainbow pony friendship is magic magical forest if you would.

[Espozito]

Alright! The game will start once all the Survivors send me their vote on the Survival Theme (look at the first post).
Send me your votes in PM.

[Glip]

Did this die before it even began?

[Damus_Graves]

It's too bad. I was looking forward to it.

[Glip]

It's too bad. I was looking forward to it.

Ikr. How else am I supposed to break 500 posts without blatantly post farming?

[RLVG]

This ain't dead, just preparing while analyzing our votes to create a story from that.

(Guess)

[Roflcopter]

Maybe not everyone has sent a vote :glare:

[RLVG]

Maybe not everyone has sent a vote :glare:

You got a gun.

You know what to do with those who has not sendt a vote.

[Ash]

i'm sure i sent mine in

[creedkingsx]

I didn't vote

[SuperJack]

/sign ?

[Espozito]

Sorry for being inactive, have been celebrating the New Year! Also my first halfterm has ended in college, with two B's and all A's (got scholarship, woohoo!!!)

So, there is a hard situation as private voting didn't bring us the survival theme clearly. There are 2 themes with equal numbers of votes. I'm sorry if somebody disagrees with my decision, but I think I should choose one of players' favourite themes.

Alien Spaceship - 2
Jungle Planecrashing - 2
Pyramid Maze - 1
Magical Forest - 1

Well, the choice is hard enough, I think, so I'll dice it...
So, the dice has shown Jungle Planecrashing!



Part 1. Lost


Darkness... There's nothing in front of you. You hardly can hear screams and plane buzzing around you...
You open your eyes. Leg hurts a bit, mud covers your body but you find strength to get up and walk. There are many dead bodies around you, but also there are survivors. You can't believe in wha's happening. Around an hour ago you were just a simple Race 204-B passenger, but now you have to fight for every breathe you make. So the other survivors do.
By the end of the day one of the survivors has already taken leadership. Some people brought some wood and made a campfire, others brought some leaves for the shelters, last ones were searching the crashed plane for food, medicals and other goods.
***
The next morning a group of 11 survivors decided to look for any signs of road or a village. They walked along the alley of tall tropic trees. Their leaves covered the sky so it was a bit hard to determine what time it was here. By the way survivors faced to different strange things: scratches on trees, big footsteps in the mud.
It was dark now. The survivors had to come back to the camp. But on their way one of the survivors - Fatalis - found some old tablet covered with strange symbols in the bush. "Hey, I think I know this language" - one of the survivors claimed. - "My name's Ash. I studied South American ancient languages for a couple of years and still have some skills in it. Let me see..."

Survivors:

1. Glip
2. Ash
3. Fatalis
4. Damus_Graves
5. Roflcopter
6. creedkingsx
7. RLVG
8. Gzz
9. Jr4life24
10. zingo1zang
11. SuperJack


You must translate the tablet using the given examples of the same language translated:

Tablet text:


Kouhs Orghullan

Examples:

Koghan Bukutus - Female Creature

Luhs Gatal - Far Away

Mes Altre Hul Lan Piere- I Have Got Ten Torchs

Orglat Mar'Jul - Forever Real

Tip: In this language same letters combination has equal translations

Rules:

You may ask questions about the puzzle in green
You have 1 guess only.
Send me your guess in private
You cannot discuss your answer with other players neither here nor in private
Once you send your answer, type Answered in the thread so that the thread will lock once every player sends his answer.
There are no time restrictions for this part as I'll be back either on 5th or on 12th of January (spending 2 weeks with my grate-grandpa, he seems pretty ill these days).


11

[Glip]

Woo, it's like we're the survivors on Lost! Hope we don't run into the Others.

Also Espozito, that voting "Answered" thing won't work unless there's an actual user on the site named "Answered". Also, you have to set the votes to lynch to 11.

[RLVG]

Can we use letter combinations in reverse?


Edit :

Is it possible some letters are the same regardless of translation?

[Ash]

I STUDIED THIS SHIT FOR 10000 YEARS IF I DONT SOLVE THIS CORRECTLY IM GONNA KILL MASELF

[Glip]

Just for the sake of doing it because he said to even though it won't work...

Answered

[RLVG]

ᏩᎱᏓ ᏓᏍ ᎤᏓᎳᏗ ᏣᏍᏆ ᎢᎡᎭ

What.

[Glip]

What.

Sorry, was in the wrong language. Fixed.

[Ash]

Sorry, was in the wrong language. Fixed.
WHAT

[Glip]

WHAT

What?

[RLVG]

WHAT

しちうせあぁんぐあげ

Oh wait. Wrong language. "Oh shit I use another language."
... Google : "Fried Oh Ousset operating jaws of death" :|



Ontopic, is it possible to discuss on certain letter combinations?

[creedkingsx]

I feel like I am missing something because I can't quite get it to make sense in the end. hmm
just by like 3 letters lol

[RLVG]

I feel like I am missing something because I can't quite get it to make sense in the end. hmm
just by like 3 letters lol

If it's the same letters, then we're equally as far.

I'm lacking hints, so I'm probably dumbed down the first puzzle.

[creedkingsx]

If it's the same letters, then we're equally as far.

first 3 of the second word lol

[RLVG]

first 3 of the second word lol

ORG?

It must be a website. The local pizzahut of the south africans.

[creedkingsx]

ORG?

It must be a website. The local pizzahut of the south africans.

Genius! now it all makes sense.
:P

[RLVG]

I think I have figured it out, but with lack of hints so I won't send in the answer right away...

I feel stupid, lol.

[RLVG]

Actually, I'm just going to send my failed answer.


Answered

[creedkingsx]

Yeah, imma just go for it.
answered

[Ash]

ORG?

It must be a website. The local pizzahut of the south africans.
Africans? We aren't in Africa, son.

[RLVG]

Africans? We aren't in Africa, son.

You've studied a language in 10000 years, I assumed you got the wrong country!

At least the south africans got poison. South americans only got raiders, temples and sacrifices.



How are you even 10000 years? Are you a sort of pikazombistein creature?

[Glip]

I have a feeling we've all arrived at the same "failed" answer.

[RLVG]

I have a feeling we've all arrived at the same "failed" answer.

We will see who fails this then.

[RLVG]

1. Glip - Answered
2. Ash
3. Fatalis
4. Damus_Graves
5. Roflcopter
6. creedkingsx - Answered
7. RLVG - Answered
8. Gzz
9. Jr4life24
10. zingo1zang
11. SuperJack

[Ash]

You've studied a language in 10000 years, I assumed you got the wrong country!

At least the south africans got poison. South americans only got raiders, temples and sacrifices.


How are you even 10000 years? Are you a sort of pikazombistein creature?
10000 years was an exaggeration, nogger. I have more knowledge than all of you, and the ORG is also throwing me off...

[RLVG]

10000 years was an exaggeration, nogger. I have more knowledge than all of you, and the ORG is also throwing me off...

How many stripes do a scandinavian bumblebee have?

[SuperJack]

Is the transtation a name?

[Ash]

How many stripes do a scandinavian bumblebee have?
show me a picture of one and i'll tell you. i tried to search it up in google images but i cant find one

[RLVG]

show me a picture of one and i'll tell you. i tried to search it up in google images but i cant find one

You're just gonna count'em'all.

[Ash]

You're just gonna count'em'all.
PICTURE!!! NAO!!!

[Ash]

You're just gonna count'em'all.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Grevy's_Zebra_1.jpg
IS NOT AMUSED

[RLVG]

IS NOT AMUSED

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nJSqhBZ-Aq4/S_ackk2I9PI/AAAAAAAAAH4/o2vTJnWQf-Q/s1600/Humle2.jpg


Anyway, we need more to solve this.

[creedkingsx]

I canned up with six different answers and went with the one that sounded most like a word

[Fatalis]

screw it the 3 letters is hard

[RLVG]

screw it the 3 letters is hard

Don't give up.

[Roflcopter]

Answered

Well I found that to be pretty easy, I dunno why y'all are having trouble with it.

[RLVG]

I dunno why y'all are having trouble with it.

It's the ancient pizzahut webaddress that keeps us away.


Here's the list of those who answered, so we know who have not answered.

1. Glip - Answered
2. Ash
3. Fatalis
4. Damus_Graves
5. Roflcopter - Answered
6. creedkingsx - Answered
7. RLVG - Answered
8. Gzz
9. Jr4life24
10. zingo1zang
11. SuperJack

[creedkingsx]

Answered

Well I found that to be pretty easy, I dunno why y'all are having trouble with it.

1 of 2 things.
Either you are ignorant of the fact that there are literally 6 possible answers
or I will laugh when you are the only on that gets it wrong. lol

[Glip]

1 of 2 things.
Either you are ignorant of the fact that there are literally 6 possible answers
or I will laugh when you are the only on that gets it wrong. lol

There's more than 6 possible answers, depending on the grammatical structure of the other language. I assumed that the translation was meant to be fully translated English words, not names, and that narrowed it down to 2 (excluding slang words. "cray" was a possible translation I disregarded") and then just chose the one I thought fit best. I could easily be wrong, but I didn't feel like pondering too long over this puzzle, so I just rushed it and guessed.

[Fatalis]

I can't even find 1 answer and you guys are all like "there's 6 possible answers"

[Damus_Graves]

Damus is confused

[Espozito]

Alright, the thing with votes doesn't work much so this rule is cancelled.
Now 4 people has already answered. If you need more time, I'll give you a day or two.

A little explanation: same GROUPS of letters have their own groups of letters despite of the meaning. But separate letters don't have these equals.

[Damus_Graves]

Esp I still don't get what you mean by same groups of letters vs single letters

[Espozito]

Well, for example, if Rago = Fore then it will always be equal, despite the position in any word:

DisRAGO = JeFORE

But that doesn't mean that R = F or A = O.

[Roflcopter]

There's only one possible answer... Wtf you guys talking about? 0.o

Pretty sure you mis-read the puzzle instructions.

[Damus_Graves]

I am so lost :|

[creedkingsx]

I am so lost :|

ROFL apparently sees an extra rule, out of the whole 1 line of rules, that allows us to accurately translate org in the weird language for us to understand in the second language.

[Damus_Graves]

ROFL apparently sees an extra rule, out of the whole 1 line of rules, that allows us to accurately translate org in the weird language for us to understand in the second language.

ORG has no translations that I can find. :(

Neither can I find one for O nor OR nor RG

[Espozito]

Added 1 more translation and more time for solving this puzzle.
If you think that there is something wrong you've done (in case you've already sent the answer), you have your last chance to change it.

[Roflcopter]

Dat wasn't really nessecary but ok, if you translated everything else then the website can only be one thing to make it an actual word.

[Glip]

Yay my guess was right

[Ash]

oh lol a new example.

[RLVG]

My answer stays. Guys, did you really need one more hint when the rest of us could do it?

[creedkingsx]

My answer stays. Guys, did you really need one more hint when the rest of us could do it?

It was gotten from a guess. Not translation by everyone. In other words, you did 77% of the puzzle and just guessed the rest.

[Glip]

Up until Espo posted the fourth translation example, there were still multiple possible translations.

[RLVG]

It was gotten from a guess. Not translation by everyone. In other words, you did 77% of the puzzle and just guessed the rest.

I guess that's a legit arguement.
However, it wasn't much of a guess and I'll explain when the puzzle are done.

[Ash]

My answer stays. Guys, did you really need one more hint when the rest of us could do it?
well, the answer still doesn't make sense to me. why would they put those words?
-vote Answered

[SuperJack]

Answered

:) That was nice, I enjoyed that, wish there was more to translate though

[Fatalis]

Answered
That was easy..

[Fatalis]

Answered
That was easy..

[Damus_Graves]

Answered I guess.

[creedkingsx]

much easier now that you can do more than 77% of it. :P

[Glip]

well, the answer still doesn't make sense to me. why would they put those words?
-vote Answered

I'm sure all will become clear as we get through the game.

[Roflcopter]

You could do 90% of it, then espo made it too easy.

Fourth translation not necessary, only ONE possible word it could translate to.

[Glip]

You could do 90% of it, then espo made it too easy.

Fourth translation not necessary, only ONE possible word it could translate to.

False. Given the known last two syllables of the second word, I can name you off the top of my head 4 different english words that would fit.

[Fatalis]

False. Given the known last two syllables of the second word, I can name you off the top of my head 4 different english words that would fit.

Oh come on I can't even name one >.>

[Roflcopter]

False. Given the known last two syllables of the second word, I can name you off the top of my head 4 different english words that would fit.

Then you did it wrong, only one english word was possible ;)

[creedkingsx]

You could do 90% of it, then espo made it too easy.

Fourth translation not necessary, only ONE possible word it could translate to.

false.
Learn math.
77% was not an arbitrary number.

[Glip]

Then you did it wrong, only one english word was possible ;)

Either you did it wrong, or you don't have a very good mastery of the English language.

Espo needs to hurry up and conclude this part so we can talk more openly about the answer and how we came to it.

[Damus_Graves]

I think I got it wrong :(

[RLVG]

1. Glip
2. Ash
3. Fatalis
4. Damus_Graves
5. Roflcopter
6. creedkingsx
7. RLVG
8. Gzz
9. Jr4life24
10. zingo1zang
11. SuperJack


Only three more.

[Jr4life24]

1. Glip
2. Ash
3. Fatalis
4. Damus_Graves
5. Roflcopter
6. creedkingsx
7. RLVG
8. Gzz
9. Jr4life24
10. zingo1zang
11. SuperJack


Only three more.

Wait, this started?

I feel stupid now

[RLVG]

Wait, this started?

I feel stupid now

Yes, it has.


http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=261645&viewfull=1#post261645

[Espozito]

Part Ending

"Hm... this seems quite simple and still... this doesn't make any sense!" - Glip claimed. "But this is the correct translation." - Ash assured. "And what? You think some old dirty jungle thing has some sense in it?" - Damus argued. "Well, I..." - Ash tried to find any words to answer but Fatais interrupted them: "Nevermind, guys. This is totally not the thing that helps us getting outta here. We must search for anything really useful." "Agreed" - Gzz nodded. The Survivors decided to get back to camp, but there was something they wouldn't have expected.
"Wha..." - Ash stood with opened mouth. "The hell?" - Damus stood too. The terrain where the camp was supposed to be, was completely empty. No campfire, no leaf-tents, no people, no even a goddamn crashed plane! "Where did everything go?" - zingo asked. - "Were we moving in right direction?" "Yes, creedkingsx was supposed to make a map while we were going." "My map is right, check the compass." - creed argued. "It's not the case about the navigation." - Glip said. - "It's about this place." "Oh, don't you start all that campfire horror stories" - RLVG claimed. - "We're just lost. And we need to track ourselves backwards and find the camp." Everyone agreed to go back...

Equal groups of letters had their letter group analogs according to the given examples.

Ko = Fe
Uhs = Ar
Org = For
Hul = Got
Lan = Ten

Result: Fear Forgotten


1. Glip - RIGHT - 5
2. RLVG - RIGHT - 5
3. Roflcopter - RIGHT - 5
4. Fatalis - RIGHT - 5
5. Ash - RIGHT - 5
6. creedkingsx - RIGHT - 5
7. Damus_Graves - RIGHT - 5
8. SuperJack - RIGHT - 5
9. Gingerape - WRONG - 4
10. Gzz - NO REPLY - 4
11. zingo1zang - NO REPLY - 4

[Roflcopter]

Told you! No other second word would work!

[RLVG]

Logic : There's only one nine lettered word with "gotten" in it. :p

... Omg, 5 HP

[Roflcopter]

Logic : There's only one nine lettered word with "gotten" in it. :p


EXACTLY.

[RLVG]

I love how everyone gave the answer subliminally without ever saying it.

It's basically "THAT" = "ANSWER".

[Ash]

glip got it right and said the second word couldve been something else

[Glip]

Logic : There's only one nine lettered word with "gotten" in it. :p

... Omg, 5 HP

We had no way of knowing that it was nine letters.

Uhs was translated as "ar", so you can't say that a grouping of three letters always translates to three letters in English.

Therefore, up until he posted the fourth translation, "begotten" and "ungotten" were still possible translations. And "misbegotten" was less likely but couldn't be entirely ruled out either.

[RLVG]

We had no way of knowing that it was nine letters.

Uhs was translated as "ar", so you can't say that a grouping of three letters always translates to three letters in English.

Therefore, up until he posted the fourth translation, "begotten" and "ungotten" were still possible translations. And "misbegotten" was less likely but couldn't be entirely ruled out either.

A little meta however is that it's the Very First Puzzle, it would be rather difficult if we had to deal with extending or shortening what letters we already got.

[creedkingsx]

A little meta however is that it's the Very First Puzzle, it would be rather difficult if we had to deal with extending or shortening what letters we already got.

A little meta would have suggested it would have been 100% doable the first time around.
Not 77%

[Glip]

A little meta however is that it's the Very First Puzzle, it would be rather difficult if we had to deal with extending or shortening what letters we already got.

As I said, we already had to deal with shortening what letters we already got with "uhs", three letters, being translated as "ar", two letters. As such, "org" could just have easily been translated as "be" or "un", until he posted the fourth translation.

And if you play enough FM you learn that "a little meta" is quite unreliable, although I will say that it was only because of meta that I felt safe in submitting my answer before determining a failsafe translation of "org".

[Roflcopter]

Fear begotten makes no sense, same with fear ungotten.

Fear forgotten is the only sensical answer, therefore there was never more than one answer.

[creedkingsx]

Fear begotten makes no sense, same with fear ungotten.

Fear forgotten is the only sensical answer, therefore there was never more than one answer.

Mes Altre Hul Lan Piere- I Have Got Ten Torchs

Orglat Mar'Jul - Forever Real

And either these make sense?

[Roflcopter]

Yes!

Forever real, it never is not-real.

And the other one is a simple sentance of someone stating how many torchs they have, but fear begotten makes no sense at all!

[creedkingsx]

Yes!

Forever real, it never is not-real.

And the other one is a simple sentance of someone stating how many torchs they have, but fear begotten makes no sense at all!

Why wouldn't someone say, "I've ten torches?"
And in what scenario wold you ever say, "Forever real."

[Damus_Graves]

Rofl sad.

Sad Rofl is bad at math and wordplay

[Glip]

Fear begotten makes no sense, same with fear ungotten.

Fear forgotten is the only sensical answer, therefore there was never more than one answer.

Fear forgotten and Fear begotten make the same amount of sense.

It could mean something like Fear has been forgotten, like the ancient civilization had nothing left to fear, and lived in peace and harmony or whatsit.

Or maybe it's saying to Fear the forgotten ones, like some even more ancient evil came and wiped them out, and is still here, waiting to prey on us.

The arrival of the forgotten ones would most definitely beget fear in the ancient civilization, which would be "Fear Begotten"

Or maybe the "forgotten ones" are some sort of demon spawn, in which case they'd be the "begotten" ones too. Fear the Begotten ones

Now, if the ancient civilization never actually had anything to fear, then it would be fear ungotten.

Fear Misbegotten = They were afraid of something they shouldn't have been afraid of.

Most likely methinks it's telling us to Fear the Forgotten Ones! There must be some ancient evil that lies waiting for us in this forest. We'd best be on our guard.

[Fatalis]

Fear forgotten and Fear begotten make the same amount of sense.

It could mean something like Fear has been forgotten, like the ancient civilization had nothing left to fear, and lived in peace and harmony or whatsit.

Or maybe it's saying to Fear the forgotten ones, like some even more ancient evil came and wiped them out, and is still here, waiting to prey on us.

The arrival of the forgotten ones would most definitely beget fear in the ancient civilization, which would be "Fear Begotten"

Or maybe the "forgotten ones" are some sort of demon spawn, in which case they'd be the "begotten" ones too. Fear the Begotten ones

Now, if the ancient civilization never actually had anything to fear, then it would be fear ungotten.

Fear Misbegotten = They were afraid of something they shouldn't have been afraid of.

Most likely methinks it's telling us to Fear the Forgotten Ones! There must be some ancient evil that lies waiting for us in this forest. We'd best be on our guard.

I taught it was forgotten fear lol

[RLVG]

There must be some ancient evil that lies waiting for us in this forest. We'd best be on our guard.

We're definately going to play some Chess with Mr. Fear Forgotten.

[Roflcopter]

I can't picture Esposito having us guess fear begotten, and misbegotten is too long.

Also it was 78.6%, not 77%!

[RLVG]

I can't picture Esposito having us guess fear begotten, and misbegotten is too long.

It's possible, but retarded for a first puzzle with multiple interprettions if Forgotten were not the case.




Also it was 78.6%, not 77%!

Whatsup with all the math wizzes in the forum? :p



My first interprettion of the puzzle were 66%, 33% for FEAR and GOTTEN with the last 33/34% with a guess to fill the blank FOR.



Edit : English skillz, it's "Interpretation".

[creedkingsx]

I can't picture Esposito having us guess fear begotten, and misbegotten is too long.

Also it was 78.6%, not 77%!

10/13 letters.

76.923076923076923076923076923077%

[Glip]

10/13 letters.

76.923076923076923076923076923077%

That would be assuming "org" represented three letters in English, which at the time we did not know.

A more accurate percentage would be 80%, there being 4 translatable segments out of 5 total.

[Roflcopter]

10/14 letters creed.

[RLVG]

Why are we even discussing of % of how much we've solved?

[Roflcopter]

Because we're passing the time waiting for part 2!

[RLVG]

Because we're passing the time waiting for part 2!

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to create our own puzzles as a warmup, at least until the next part comes up?

[Roflcopter]

Go ahead :p

How about this:

a^n + b^n = c^n

n has to be greater than 2, find any positive, non-zero numbers that would make mathmatically correct.

[Glip]

Go ahead :p

How about this:

a^n + b^n = c^n

n has to be greater than 2, find any positive, non-zero numbers that would make mathmatically correct.

Trick Question.

Fermat's Last Theorem:

a^n + b^n = c^n has no integer solutions for n > 2.

[creedkingsx]

10/14 letters creed.

Fear Forgotten
1234567890123

:|

Yeah, that's 14 letters, silly me with my inability to count.
:|

[Damus_Graves]

Fear Forgotten
1234567890123

:|

Yeah, that's 14 letters, silly me with my inability to count.
:|

:laugh:

[Roflcopter]

Kouhs Orghullan

12345 678901234

I see 14.

[Damus_Graves]

Kouhs Orghullan

12345 678901234

I see 14.

Bad logic is bad

[creedkingsx]

Kouhs Orghullan

12345 678901234

I see 14.

We were looking for the answer, not the question. :P

[RLVG]

Since you're obsessive with the "Fear Forgotten", here's a random puzzle to keep you busy until part 2 comes up.
(Mainly I want a different subject since it's stupid to discuss a 77% :p)


| X | 2 | X | 4 | X |

| 5 | 1 | X | 3 | 4 |

| X | X | X | X | X |

| 3 | 4 | X | 1 | 2 |

| X | 3 | X | 5 | X |

No explanation given, other then a hint: Pattern.

[Glip]

Since you're obsessive with the "Fear Forgotten", here's a random puzzle to keep you busy until part 2 comes up.
(Mainly I want a different subject since it's stupid to discuss a 77% :p)


| X | 2 | X | 4 | X |

| 5 | 1 | X | 3 | 4 |

| X | X | X | X | X |

| 3 | 4 | X | 1 | 2 |

| X | 3 | X | 5 | X |

No explanation given, other then a hint: Pattern.

I guess I'll put this one in a spoiler code so other people still get a chance to solve it on their own if they want. I'll also have to throw in a bit of BS extra stuff in here so the darn "new forum posts" thing doesn't go ahead and spoil it anyway. There should be some way to make it show that it doesn't display text that is inside spoiler tags.


| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 |

| 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |

| 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 |

| 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 | 2 |

| 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 1 |

[Espozito]

Part 2. Cursed Empire

Survivors were going through the jungles searching for their last footsteps to find their way back to camp. In the end they were very surprised as footsteps dissappeared just near the place where they found the tablet. "Maybe a rain erased it?" - Ash suggested. "Have you seen the rain? Or have you heard it? Nah, there are no signs of anyone or anything erasing it." - Damus_Graves said. "Damus is right" - Glip agreed. - "These jungles are not the same. Here were different trees in different positions". "Jesus, stop all those scary things about the jungles. Don't claim that you've remembered all the trees around!" - Gingerape argued. "Guys, we need to find a hideout" - Ash reminded. "And some food, I'm starving" - zingo said. "Alright, let's move then" - Glip commanded.
It started getting darker. Even through all the leaves it was now even darker than it was during the day.
In the end they decided to have a rest near some big tree. Damus broke some sticks and Ash used his lighter to make a campfire.
Fatalis made a torch and went to look around. "I found something!" - he suddenly signaled. Everyone came to him and Fatalis shown a big ancient wall covered with same symbols as at the tablet. "Well, at least now it will be easy to translate these signs" - Ash said and started inspecting the wall. "And that's all? What's the point of searching this old dirty wall?" - zingo claimed. "We need something to do anyway and I don't wanna sleep this night anyway" - Damus said and joined the inspection.


1. Glip - 5
2. Damus_Graves - 5
3. RLVG - 5
4. creedkingsx - 5
5. Ash - 5
6. SuperJack - 5
7. Fatalis - 5
8. Jr4life24 - 5
9. Gingerape - 4
10. Gzz - 4
11. zingo1zang - 4


The translated text is a story, maybe a legend about ancient Emperors of Nis Empire that ruled these lands.

"By the rise of the seventh Sun, Emperor Tsul was born. From the time he started ruling the Empire, he was surrounded by women's beauty and love. He had 365 wives to have one of them each day of the year. But it was Leap Year coming, when there were 366 days. And he wanted to have one more wife, but she must be the most beautiful from all of his wives. He ordered to find him a woman and he found her in a small fishing village. She didn't want to come with him and because of that Emperor took her with force and burnt the village. When the year was over and it was the last day coming, Tsul invited the new woman to his bedchamber. At first she agreed to some, but that night she tookand hided a silver fork after the dinner, looked deeply in Emperor's eyes and put this fork in his throat. After that a riot started in the Palace and the whole harem has been executed on fire.

The next decade Emperor Ynot-Tulg, one of the Tsul's lost sons started his ruling. He was a wise Emperor but very fat because he was having 5 dinners each day and a dinner party every Sunday. His councilors tried to stop him from eating that much, but he refused their help. After several years a stranger came to the Palace claiming that he was the greatest cook in the whole Empire and asked to serve Ynot's next dinner. When the dinner started and the Emperor tried the first course, it was so wonderful that he wanted more. The main course was even better and Emperor started asking more and more, he ate so much food that by the end of the day he wasn't able even to swallow any more piece of food. He suffocated and fell right on the table. The stranger has been executed and the Emperor's guards started looking for another Tsul's son.

Three years later they found him. Emperor De'Erg was a lost son of Tsul that was carried out by an old by kind woman from the town that was near the capital. De'Erg tired from living in poverty and he was very happy to know that he had to be the Emperor. He was so surprised by the riches he had got that he started spending hours in his treasure room, playing with golden armor and covered with diamonds wineglasses. Then his mother came to him. She asked him to give the town a few gold coins to solve the poverty there. After such request Emperor went completely mad. He ordered to throw the old woman out from the Palace and forbid her to enter the Capital of the Empire. After that day De'Erg became crazy. He started thinking that everybody comes to him only to ask for his riches to share. He hided all the treasures and killed everyone who knew about their location. In the end, he was so worrying about them that he put all of them in the Palace tomb and locked himself inside with all his gold, silver and diamonds. After a month the tomb has been opened and De'Erg's corpse was siting in the corner of the room, still holding his treasures.

Palace guards panicked. They had no other Emperor but they had to choose a new one. There were two generals in the army, they were brothers: Ht-Ols and Ht-Arw. Each of them wanted the throne even harder than the other and they started fighting for the crown. After the fight, in wich Ols cheated, Arw has been banished from the Empire forever and Ht-Ols became the Emperor. He was having great time in the Palace, during the whole day he was lying on his throne. He even made it mobile so that he could ride without leaving his chair, moved by his subjects. He became completely lazy, Osl didn't want to make any changes in his Empire, didn't want to solve social or political problems.

After all, Ht-Arw returned to the Empire with great army from North that helped him to conquer the Capital. When Arw entered the main room of the Palace, he found fat Ols lying in his chair. "Stand up and fight me like a real man!" - Arw ordered. But Ols answered that he didn't even want to. That was "too hard" for him. Arw became really mad about it and killed his brother without any regret and took his crown. He was so crazy about his brother being unable to fight him that he started tyrannizing the whole Empire, burning every village he didn't like.

15 years later, Arw's son Yv-Ne grown up and was ready to take the crown, but first his farther had to die. He decided to wait. Arw became very old but still he was able to rule the Empire. After all, Yv asked him why couldn't he become Emperor right now. "You are too young for this, my dear" - Emperor ansewered. "But I can become the Emperor. I want to become the Emperor! I want the crown! I want it!" - he screamed loudly and tried to take the crown by force. Arw was too old to fight eventhough Yv was just a child. Yv took a sword and killed his farther to take the crown. After becoming an Emperor, he ordered every town and village in the Empire to bring him the best food, best women and the most expensive treasures. And after travelling around the Empire, he always found anything he liked and he wanted to take it.

--------------"

The part about the Last Emperor is broken and unreadable. Now you must tell me the name of the Last Emperor, according to other Emperors' stories.
Tip: there are no " ' " or "-" marks in his name, his name is signle and is not divided.


Rules:

You may ask questions in green
You have 1 guess
You can't discuss your solution
You can inform the others if you have solved the puzzle
I give you from 24 to 48 hours, depending on how much of you solves it by the time. If there will be more than a half of players who solved the puzzle, I will end the part in 24 hours

[Gingerape]

Jesus, stop all those scary things about the jungles. Don't claim that you've remembered all the trees around!

[Espozito]

Jesus, stop all those scary things about the jungles. Don't claim that you've remembered all the trees around!

lol, you don't need to rp that, that is said in the RP part =)

[creedkingsx]

Answered

[RLVG]

Jesus, stop all those scary things about the jungles. Don't claim that you've remembered all the trees around!

We're probably drugged by something. Sometimes we're sane, sometimes we're insane.

I claim sane.

[Roflcopter]

Def. harder than last one, but still did it.

Great job on these puzzles espo, they are fun :)

[RLVG]

Answered

This one was surprisingly easy.
After taking the breakfast and reading it I've figured it out by the first read.

[Roflcopter]

This is only easy if you can think outside dah box.

[RLVG]

This is only easy if you can think outside dah box.

Herp derp, me and Creed did it in less then half a hour.

[creedkingsx]

rofl, how was this hard in any way, shape, or form?
Clever? yes. Hard? no.

[RLVG]

rofl, how was this hard in any way, shape, or form?
Clever? yes. Hard? no.

I will smash my head on the wall if even one fails this one.

[Roflcopter]

>.>

Trying to make it sound harder than it is to people who haven't done puzzle yet.

[Fatalis]

inb4 I can't answer it

[creedkingsx]

inb4 I can't answer it

I don't think this give anything away, but it does help to read, at least a little bit.

[RLVG]

Let's predict who are able to solve this in less then 30/15min.

I'm going to guess Glip & Damus.

[Fatalis]

I don't think this give anything away, but it does help to read, at least a little bit.

You don't say

[creedkingsx]

You don't say

It is doable without reading lol

It took me util reading the first sentence all the way through to realize what it was.

[Fatalis]

I mean, I noticed the super obvious thing about the teal names but aside from that nothing else

[Fatalis]

LOL NVM GOOGLE FTW

[Fatalis]

Whoops sorry

[creedkingsx]

Whoops sorry

My opinion, I suppose, but that would have been a huge give away, don;t you think? xD

[Fatalis]

My opinion, I suppose, but that would have been a huge give away, don;t you think? xD

Forgot about the no discussing answer part :D

[Espozito]

Well, my job is not to create those puzzles wich you wanna break your head about, but wich make it fun to solve. The best part is that I'm improvising))
So, gotta go making up a new puzzle. Have fun)

http://cs306906.userapi.com/v306906223/34e6/1pZAqzOk2Eg.jpg
This is partly why I was afk for so long))

[RLVG]

Awesome drawing Espo.

[Fatalis]

Awesome drawing! I can barely draw a smooth square and you drew this


also constructive feedback: it would be nice if you put a little more detail to the cape

[Espozito]

Awesome drawing! I can barely draw a smooth square and you drew this


also constructive feedback: it would be nice if you put a little more detail to the cape

I was really tired and wanted to end it as fast as possible, so the cape is a piece of sh... mud... yeah, ofc mud...
Also I've drawn 13 pages of Fantasy Comics but too bad it's in Russian.
I have many pics. Wanna see them while waiting for the part ending?))

[RLVG]

I have many pics. Wanna see them while waiting for the part ending?))

Of course I We want to see them.

[creedkingsx]

^.^

[Fatalis]

Of course I We want to see them.

This!

[Espozito]

8606
Here I tried to imagine what if Sherlock Holmes met with Batman.
(The poster is in Russian, it says "Complete Nonsense", but Russian "Nonsense" word ends with "OR" wich makes it possible to play with "OR" like "SH or Batman?"

8607
This pic brought me on the 3rd place on the Merlin Fan-Site.

8608
And this one too, but judges counted only one picture.

8609
Full idea was to draw 6 posters about different Merlin events and combine them. Posters were drawn, but I decided to leave them divided.

8610
2012 Happy New Year =3

8611
My first drawing. A troll.

8612
My third drawing. Barbarian fights Minotaur =)

8614
First attempt to make a comics page

8615
Drawing faces for Comics (they are active characters now)

8616
Assasin's Creed Shotor.Art version))

8617
Wizard Lightezahr (from the Comics too). Aw, I think his arms are too long

8618
Oppa Cartoon Style

8619
Spacemarine from nation Zerons

8620
Dwarf

8621
Ice Giant (awaken)

[Espozito]

Hm, is it me or the spoiler tag doesn't work?

[RLVG]

Hm, is it me or the spoiler tag doesn't work?

Spoiler doesn't work until it has a text that indicates what the spoiler is about.

[spoiler=TEXT]

[Espozito]

Spoiler doesn't work until it has a text that indicates what the spoiler is about.

[spoiler=TEXT]

Oh, thanks))

[RLVG]

You're quite good, do you use a normal pen or a custom made?

Maybe an idea is to draw the characters in the RPG Thread. :p

[Espozito]

You're quite good, do you use a normal pen or a custom made?

Maybe an idea is to draw the characters in the RPG Thread. :p

I use HB pencil but recently I've always made a pic of "Santa Claus vs Grandpa Frost" using pen.
Well, I think I'd be afk for a couple of months doing it)))

[RLVG]

Part 2 of this quest is on Page 7.

I'm just saying this since I suspect they didn't notice it started.

[creedkingsx]

Part 2 of this quest is on Page 7.

I'm just saying this since I suspect they didn't notice it started.

We aren't even done with page 4 though o.o


PArt 2 for everyone: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=263401&viewfull=1#post263401

[RLVG]

We aren't even done with page 4 though o.o


PArt 2 for everyone: http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=263401&viewfull=1#post263401

That's the ENDING of PART 1.

This is Part 2 lol.
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/15931-Survival-Quest-2?p=265177&viewfull=1#post265177

[creedkingsx]

wups
close enough
lol

[RLVG]

wups
close enough
lol

I don't know what's more facepalm worthy, if it's the GIANT GREEN TEXT SAYING "PART ENDING" or the fact that you already solved the puzzle of part 2.


Answered

[creedkingsx]

I don't know what's more facepalm worthy, if it's the GIANT GREEN TEXT SAYING "PART ENDING" or the fact that you already solved the puzzle of part 2.

I saw a yellow block of text and linked to it.

[Damus_Graves]

EZ

Answered

[Damus_Graves]

Let's predict who are able to solve this in less then 30/15min.

I'm going to guess Glip & Damus.

^.^

[RLVG]

I saw a yellow block of text and linked to it.

Ending = Green
Start = Yellow.



8)

[Damus_Graves]

Ending = Green
Start = Yellow.



8)

Did I miss a conversation.

[RLVG]

Did I miss a conversation.

TL;DR



Creed linked the Part 1 Ending instead of the Part 2 Start.
Then he said that he saw a yellow wall of text and linked it.

Fact is the ending is green wall of text and the start is a yellow wall of text.

[Damus_Graves]

TL;DR



Creed linked the Part 1 Ending instead of the Part 2 Start.
Then he said that he saw a yellow wall of text and linked it.

Fact is the ending is green wall of text and the start is a yellow wall of text.

My goodness Creed.

1st. You say your black. Then White then Mexican

Now you link improperly.

[Ash]

Well, my job is not to create those puzzles wich you wanna break your head about, but wich make it fun to solve. The best part is that I'm improvising))
So, gotta go making up a new puzzle. Have fun)

http://cs306906.userapi.com/v306906223/34e6/1pZAqzOk2Eg.jpg
This is partly why I was afk for so long))
tbh i think this is ur best drawing i've seen. thats pretty cool. ok im gonna try 2 solev this poolze now

[Ash]

shit i finally found out. it took me kinda long (like 25 minutes, cuz i read it before i posted my previous post) compared to u guys.

[Ash]

-Answered

[Glip]

Do we still have to do that vote answered thing?

Answered

[Espozito]

Do we still have to do that vote answered thing?

Answered

Actually, no. I said that you can say wether you have or haven't yet solved the puzzle))

[Espozito]

Attention. Links to all the parts and their endindgs have been added to the first post.

[RLVG]

I'm taking a good guess that at least half the game will receive a -1 for not submitting an answer, unless they did it in PM without discussing at all.

[Glip]

Part 3 plz. Or at least give us an ending for part 2 :P You said you'd end it in 48 hours two days ago.

The feline intellect yearns for stimulation.

[RLVG]

Part 3 plz. Or at least give us an ending for part 2 :P You said you'd end it in 48 hours two days ago.

The feline intellect yearns for stimulation.



Here's one to keep you busy. I'm also waiting for the ending lol.



8 X X X 7 X X X X
X 1 X 6 X 3 X X X
4 X 6 X X X X 5 X
1 3 X 5 6 2 X 9 8
X 2 X X X X 1 X 7
X X X 9 3 6 2 X 4
X X X 4 X 7 X 8 X
X X X X 5 X X X 3

[Glip]

Here's one to keep you busy. I'm also waiting for the ending lol.



8 X X X 7 X X X X
X 1 X 6 X 3 X X X
4 X 6 X X X X 5 X
1 3 X 5 6 2 X 9 8
X 2 X X X X 1 X 7
X X X 9 3 6 2 X 4
X X X 4 X 7 X 8 X
X X X X 5 X X X 3

Looks like that's supposed to be a Sudoku but you're missing one line. That's an 9x8 grid you have there instead of 9x9

[RLVG]

Looks like that's supposed to be a Sudoku but you're missing one line. That's an 9x8 grid you have there instead of 9x9

Lol, made it on the top of my head. Fixed it. At least you figured it's Sudoku.



8 X X X 7 X X X X
X 1 X 6 X 3 X X X
2 X 3 8 9 5 X X X

4 X 6 X X X X 5 X
1 3 X 5 6 2 X 9 8
X 2 X X X X 1 X 7

X X X 9 3 6 2 X 4
X X X 4 X 7 X 8 X
X X X X 5 X X X 3

[Espozito]

Part ending

"And what is that? Another stupid story?" - Ash asked. "No, wait. This story has to have one more legend about the last Emperor." - Glip said. - "But last part was destroyed." "I don't understand" - Gzz said - "How will this help us to survive? This is just a useless piece of stone in some old forgotten jungles!" "Stop." - Gingerape interrupted him. - "What about the tablet? It says "Fear Forgotten"." "Yes, some forgotten fear" - Fatalis said. - "So what?" "No-no-no. You don't get it." - Gingerape continued. - "What if we read it wrong? What if "Forgotten" is a noun? Maybe this is a warning, like "Fear The Forgotten one"." "Possible." - creedkingsx agreed. - "But who or what is the Forgotten one?" "Maybe the last Emperor. Without the legend about him everyone could forget even his name. Between, what was his name?" "Edirp." - Damus answered. "Resersed "Pride"." "So, you mean that Edirp is the guy from the tablet?" - Fatalis asked. - "Edirp The Forgotten?"
Suddenly trees far away from survivors started shaking. There was something huge hiding behind them and it started getting closer and closer really fast. "What... is that?" - Roflcopter asked. A square of dirt started getting down under survivors' feet. They fell down in some huge dark room, maybe a hall, and the platform of fake dirt got up again, closing the roof of the room. Survivors were now safe from whatever was moving to them. But they didn't know are they now.

The whole story is about Seven Deadly Sins. All the Emperors' stories have something to do with sins that made Emperors suffer from many bad things.
Even their names are reversed names of Sins:

Tsul - Lust (he had harem)
Ynot-Tulg - Gluttony (he ate a lot)
De-Erg - Greed (he couldn't live without his treasures)
Ht-Ols - Sloth (completely lazy guy)
Ht-Arw - Wrath (he was mad about his brother being so unhororably killed)
Yv-Ne - Envy (Arw's son was jealous to his crown)

But last Sin is missing. It is Pride. That means that Emperor's name will be reversed:

Edirp


1. Gingerape - RIGHT - 4
2. creedkingsx - RIGHT - 5
3. Roflcopter - RIGHT - 5
4. RLVG - RIGHT - 5
5. Fatalis - WRONG - 4
6. Glip - RIGHT - 5
7. Damus_Graves - RIGHT - 5
8. Ash - RIGHT - 5
9. SuperJack - NO REPLY - 4
10. Gzz - NO REPLY - 3
11. zingo1zang - NO REPLY - 3

[Ash]

Edirp? You mean ederp? He was a derp! btw that puzzle was pretty good, I couldnt find out at first why they had weird names until I saw the title "Cursed Empire" which gives a hint lol

[RLVG]

Edirp? You mean ederp? He was a derp! btw that puzzle was pretty good, I couldnt find out at first why they had weird names until I saw the title "Cursed Empire" which gives a hint lol

Edirp, son of Herpderp.


being so unhororly killed

Isn't it unhonorable?

[Fatalis]

LOL WUT I FORGOT TO REVERSE IT! I SENT PRIDE

[Ash]

LOL WUT I FORGOT TO REVERSE IT! I SENT PRIDE
lol u got trolled

[Roflcopter]

Is this on hiatus?

[Ash]

also the name "Nis Empire" shouldve given the answer answer. backwards it's Sin Empire

[Espozito]

also the name "Nis Empire" shouldve given the answer answer. backwards it's Sin Empire

I made this only after making all the names, just thought it's a funny hint)


Don't worry, guys, the Puzzle has already been created but I gtg to college (our literature teacher is a monster, really. SHE SPEAKS TO HER TV, DRINKS COFFEE AND REFUSES TAKING THE PILLS HER DOCTOR ORDERED HER!!!) and will make Part 2 ending RP and Part 3 in the evening (in 4-6 hours)

[RLVG]

(our literature teacher is a monster, really. SHE SPEAKS TO HER TV, DRINKS COFFEE AND REFUSES TAKING THE PILLS HER DOCTOR ORDERED HER!!!)

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/27550_109183765768008_204_n.jpg

Oh the humanity.
I wouldn't want such a teacher.

And it has been seven hours so I'm guessing you're almost back.

[Espozito]

Part 3. Under the Pressure

Survivors tried to get out of the room. Some tried to climb the walls, but they were too smooth. Others were looking for some kind of door. "Happy now?!" - Superjack cried at Fatalis. "Why? I didn't do anything! Or do you think a few words is able to activate some kind of ancient trap?" - Fatalis argued. "Shut up and listen!" - Glip ordered looking on the roof. Something from outside started knocking the platform. "We have not much time to make our way out of here. Any ideas?" "If this is some kind of trap, there must be some way out. Look for any buttons or levers." - Damus suggested. Everyone started searchings. "I think I found it!" - Gingerape claimed. - "But there are... many levers..."


1. Damus_Graves - 5
2. creedkingsx - 5
3. Glip - 5
4. Ash - 5
5. Roflcopter - 5
6. RLVG - 5
7. Gingerape - 4
8. Fatalis - 4
9. SuperJack - 4
10. Gzz - 3
11. zingo1zang - 3
12. 42shadow42 - 3 (NEW PLAYER)


There is a door in front of you that is the way out of the hall. It is divided in 5 parts (A-E) and has 5 levers on the wall nearby (1-5). Each lever has letetrs on it. The letters mean the parts of the wall wich are affected by the lever. Lever effect closes or openes the part depending on part's condition. For example: If part A is closed and part C is opened, then lever 1 with letters "A, C" will open A and close C, but doesn't have any effect on B, D or E.

Here are the levers:

1. A, D
2. B, E
3. B, C
4. A, C, E
5. B, C. D


You must push the levers and open all the parts (they are all closed at start).
You may use each lever more than once.
As the answer, send me the code containing the numbers of levers in order you pushed them.


Warning! The one who will make the longest code will die!


Rules:

You may ask questions in green
You have 24 hours to solve the puzzle
You can't discuss your solution
You may inform other players if you have solved the puzzle (NOT IN TAG, that thing doesn't work lol)

[Damus_Graves]

Are all the parts of the door closed or are any of them open?

[RLVG]

Are all the parts of the door closed or are any of them open?

Lol, I was about to ask this : What parts are already closed / open?

[RLVG]

Edit: Nevermind, I understood it now lol.

[Espozito]

Are all the parts of the door closed or are any of them open?

Full door is closed at start.

[Damus_Graves]

K. Lets get to work

[Glip]

The puzzle explanation says lever 1 moves A and C, but the lever list says 1 moves A and D. Which is correct?

[RLVG]

The puzzle explanation says lever 1 moves A and C, but the lever list says 1 moves A and D. Which is correct?

1. A, D
2. B, E
3. B, C
4. A, C, E

That's the list we were given. Did you spot a 5th lever? I'd asume it's only an example.

[Espozito]

The puzzle explanation says lever 1 moves A and C, but the lever list says 1 moves A and D. Which is correct?

The one in explanation is an example how levers work.

[RLVG]

The 4th lever fucks up everything. :push:

[RLVG]

Just to clarify what we are starting with :
Is it A B C D E where E.G "1 AD" makes it X B C X E?
Is it X X X X X where E.G "1 AD" makes it A X X D X?

[Damus_Graves]

Answered

[Damus_Graves]

Took me an hour.

[Glip]

Took me an hour.

You screwed up somewhere. The puzzle at it currently stands is not solvable. It's impossible to get B, C, and E all up at the same time.

[RLVG]

You screwed up somewhere. The puzzle at it currently stands is not solvable. It's impossible to get B, C, and E all up at the same time.

I've solved it multiple times. The issue is that I want to shorten it so I don't die lol.

[Glip]

I've solved it multiple times. The issue is that I want to shorten it so I don't die lol.

I'd love to see what any of your solutions are, as I am quite certain that the puzzle is not solvable.

[RLVG]

Argh, can't get it under 22 pulls.

[Espozito]

Just to clarify what we are starting with :
Is it A B C D E where E.G "1 AD" makes it X B C X E?
Is it X X X X X where E.G "1 AD" makes it A X X D X?

Exactly

[RLVG]

I noticed an error, I didn't solve it after all...
Fuck me, I thougth I actually solved it.:suspicious:



In fact, now that I see - it's actually impossible.

BE, BC, ACE to be specific.

You can get A and D to be alone, but not B, C or E.
I've literally tried every combination.



The ACE is broken as it keeps replacing the BE and BC counterpart in anything.
Example :
BC, ACE = ABE, BC = ACE
BE, ACE = ABC, BE = ACE
ABE, BE = A
ABC, BC = A

AD, BE = ABDE, ACE = BCD, BC = D
AD, BC = ABCE, ACE = BDE, BE = D
ACE, AD = CDE

CDE, BE = BCD
CDE, BC = BDE

BCD, ACE = ABDE
BDE, ACE = ABCD

AD/BE
AD/BC

BE, BC = CE
CE, ACE = A

A, AD = D
D, AD = A

A, BE = ABE
A, BC = ABC

ABE, AD = BDE
ABC, AD = BCD

ABE, BC = ACE
ABC, BE = ACE



Any combination also results in being the same, so there's limited amount of actual combinations.

AD, ACE = CDE, AD = ACE

BE, BC = CE
CE, BE = BC
CE, BC = BE


So here's the full example :


4 ACE
--- ACE
1 AD
--- CDE
2 BE
--- BCD
3 BC
--- D / AD = A
4 ACE
--- ACDE
1 AD
--- CE / ACE = A, BE = BC, BC = BE
^^^^
3 BC
--- D
1 AD
--- A
2 BE
--- ABE / BC = ACE
1 AD
--- BDE
4 ACE
--- ABCD / BE = ACDE, BC = AD...


Solution : Introduce lever 5.

If you'd like to, I can remove this. It's only there to demostrate that it's impossible and to show it's impossible so most wouldn't try to needlessly solve this.

[Damus_Graves]

RLVG.
I solved the puzzle.
It's do-able

[Gingerape]

RLVG.
I solved the puzzle.
It's do-able

no you didn't

[Espozito]

Alright, I checked it and it seems really unsolvable (strange, when I created it, I checked if it's solvable, maybe I made a mistake somewhere)
I've added 5th lever (see Part 3) and checked if it workd. It did. Damus, I'm sorry, your guess was wrong, but due to puzzle changings, you may redo it without life-loss.

[Damus_Graves]

Alright, I checked it and it seems really unsolvable (strange, when I created it, I checked if it's solvable, maybe I made a mistake somewhere)
I've added 5th lever (see Part 3) and checked if it workd. It did. Damus, I'm sorry, your guess was wrong, but due to puzzle changings, you may redo it without life-loss.


Damn.
Double checked my solution and I misplaced an O where a C should be

[Glip]

With the following set of levers:

1. A, D
2. B, E
3. B, C
4. A, C, E
5. B, C, D

The puzzle is still not solvable. Espo, in order for this to be solvable, we need a fifth lever that flips only one of B, C, or E. Or all three. (It can also flip anything else along with that, but it's necessary that only one of B, C, or E gets flipped.)

[Ash]

sht i didnt know there was a new puzzle. i dont think i could solve it now or in 12 hrs :|

[RLVG]

1. A, D
2. B, E
3. B, C
4. A, C, E
5. B, C. D


The 5th option doesn't do anything.

It's only a BC (3) with an additional D.
A,C,E as illustrated above, can't create any sepperate combinations with BC / BE.

D was never a problem.

First we need something that can make B, C or E remain alone out of all the 5.


I've added 5th lever (see Part 3) and checked if it workd. It did.

I'm going to say this : Either you did something wrong, or the puzzle are different then we're told.


A suggestion is to add a 6th letter F and combine it with B. (B & F)

[creedkingsx]

lemme take a crack at it.

[creedkingsx]

Nah, can't get it.

[RLVG]

This doesn't work out. Every combination leads to the same answers, there's no unique paths.

1. A, D
2. B, E
3. B, C
4. A, C, E
5. B, C. D






5 BCD
--- BCD
1 AD
--- ABC
3 BC
--- A
4 ACE
--- CE
1 AD
--- ACDE
5 BCD
--- ABDE
4 3 BC
--- ACDE
1 AD
--- CE
5 BCD
--- BDE
1 AD
--- ABE
2 BE
--- A
5 BCD
--- ABCD
2 BE
--- ACDE
5 BCD
--- ABE
1 AD
--- BDE
5 BCD
--- CE
3 ACE
--- A
3 BC
--- ABC
5 BCD
--- AD



1 AD
--- AD
4 ACE
--- CDE
5 BCD
--- BE
1 AD
--- ABDE
5 BCD
--- ACE




4 ACE
--- ACE
5 BCD
--- ADE
1 AD


2 BE
--- BE
3 BC
--- CE
3 ACE
--- A
2 BE
--- ABE
1 AD
--- BDE
5 BCD
--- CE

[Espozito]

This doesn't work out. Every combination leads to the same answers, there's no unique paths.

1. A, D
2. B, E
3. B, C
4. A, C, E
5. B, C. D






5 BCD
--- BCD
1 AD
--- ABC
3 BC
--- A
4 ACE
--- CE
1 AD
--- ACDE
5 BCD
--- ABDE
4 3 BC
--- ACDE
1 AD
--- CE
5 BCD
--- BDE
1 AD
--- ABE
2 BE
--- A
5 BCD
--- ABCD
2 BE
--- ACDE
5 BCD
--- ABE
1 AD
--- BDE
5 BCD
--- CE
3 ACE
--- A
3 BC
--- ABC
5 BCD
--- AD



1 AD
--- AD
4 ACE
--- CDE
5 BCD
--- BE
1 AD
--- ABDE
5 BCD
--- ACE




4 ACE
--- ACE
5 BCD
--- ADE
1 AD


2 BE
--- BE
3 BC
--- CE
3 ACE
--- A
2 BE
--- ABE
1 AD
--- BDE
5 BCD
--- CE

Alright, by tomorrow I'll try to fix it and make levers with possible solution.
I tried to make some of the changings, but all of them leaded to 3-moves solution, wich is way too easy.
If I can't make it, I think we'll skip Part 3.

[Glip]

Alright, by tomorrow I'll try to fix it and make levers with possible solution.
I tried to make some of the changings, but all of them leaded to 3-moves solution, wich is way too easy.
If I can't make it, I think we'll skip Part 3.

The problem with this type of puzzle is that it doesn't matter what order you flip the levers in. Thus flipping any lever twice, regardless of when in the order, does nothing. This means that the fastest solution (if one exists) will always be at most equal to the number of levers, flipping each one once.

[RLVG]

Alright, by tomorrow I'll try to fix it and make levers with possible solution.
I tried to make some of the changings, but all of them leaded to 3-moves solution, wich is way too easy.
If I can't make it, I think we'll skip Part 3.

If it's nearly impossible to get a lever puzzle without making it too easy with the current combinations, just edit the existing ones.

[Ash]

back. so no puzzle to solve yet, apparently?

[RLVG]

back. so no puzzle to solve yet, apparently?

Not one that's possible.

[RLVG]

It's been almost a week now.

[Glip]

It's been almost a week now.

You get used to it. These "Survival Quest" games tend to die for long periods of times inbetween parts.

[Damus_Graves]

*cricket cricket*

[Ash]

espo is still trying to solve the puzzle

[creedkingsx]

Time for that search party. :D

[Glip]

:|

[RLVG]

:|

[Fatalis]

Espo.. how could you

[Glip]

:(

[Espozito]

:(


Espo.. how could you


:|


:|

Alright! I can't fail you all on this one! I WILL create a solvable interesting puzzle!!!!!!! FOR THE LICH KING!!!! SURVIVAL QUEST!!!!

[Fatalis]

/le wait

[Damus_Graves]

im game

[Ash]

next puzzle might has to do something with the meteor8