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TimeTrx
August 27th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Basically I really wanted to be involved in a Dragon Ball related forum mafia. Since no one has stepped up after SirBlaze was banned. I am submitting a modified setup of his. Here it is:

Mafia
Mafia
Mafia

Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town
Town


Neutral
Neutral


Possible Town Roles: Sheriff, Detective, Lookout, Bus Driver, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Vigilante, Bodyguard, Investigator, Mason Leader, Mayor, Citizen

Possible Mafia Roles: Godfather, Consigliere, Mafioso, Framer, Consort, Blackmailer, Janitor

Possible Neutral Roles: Jester, Executioner, Amnesiac, Survivor, Serial Killer

1. No private messages or reputation messages, mafia night (and mason) chat is the only exception in which a group can talk together outside of the main topic. No cheating guys/gals.

2. No communication about the game outside of the game chat provided - light-hearted discussion about general gameplay elements on skype, for example, is acceptable, but any chat using hidden information or related to specific actions and strategies is a no-go. If you want to say 'Lol if I had a gun I would shoot -Player X-' then say that in day chat instead of cheating on skype like a coward. Again no cheating guys/gals.

3. No direct quoting of PMs or night chats. Basically, no copy and pasting.

4. Lynches must be in RED and in this format -Vote John... Lynches will always majority vote style.

5. Questions must be in GREEN... Questions can be asked in PM's. But

6. Death notes: Mafia and the neutral killers may leave a death note if they want to.

7.Last Wills and actions: All last wills and actions should be PM'd to TimeTrx account, labelled <insert name here's> last will or some thing like that.

8. Dragon Ball Z related pictures and videos are allowed as long as videos are not set to auto-play and the pictures are in spoilers. No other pictures or videos are allowed.

9. If you want to reveal your role (in day chat), you must use your corresponding Dragon Ball character's role. For example: In this game, Yamcha is a citizen instead of saying "I'm a citizen!", you would say: "I'm a Yamcha!"

Jailor jails
Night groups get together to talk
People put on vests
Escort / Consort Blocks Escort / Consort
Jailor executes target
Lookout moves to target / Detective follows target
Escort / Consort
Bus Driving
Framing
Investigations
Bodyguard moves to target
All Kills (-1)
Heals
Cleaning
Jester visit
Blackmailer visits
Mason visits
Amnesiac remembers his role


Invest Findings:
Citizen/Godfather/Mayor/Jester - This Person seems clean, but may have a hidden power.
Mafioso/Vigilante/Jailor - This Person has a lot of weapons.
Investigator/Consigliere/Lookout/Detective - This person has great snooping skills
Escort/Consort/Bus Driver - This person spends time with other people at night.
Sheriff/Executioner/Framer/Blackmailer - This person studys people.
Mason Leader - This person was seen talking to people.
Bodyguard/Survivor - This person seems to be an asset in a clinch to turn the tide.
Doctor/Serial Killer - This person has experience in medicine
Amnesiac/Janitor - This person can alter the dead



Vegeta (Godfather):

Abilities: You are the leader of your Mafia team. You are immune to investigations and cannot be seen by Lookouts (but you can be followed by a Detective). You are immune to attack at night.

Pertinent rulings: You may decide who to send to carry out your Mafia kill. If a faction member does not send me a night action you may decide who they use their abilities on. If the Mafia Leader is killed another player will be picked to lead the faction, at random.

Great Ape (Consigliere)

Abilities: You may investigate a player at night and discover clues about their role.

Pertinent rulings: The 'clues' come in the form of investigation pairings.

Turles (Framer):

Abilities: Each night you may visit someone and disrupt any investigation results on them.

Pertinent rulings: If your target is checked by a Sheriff, the Sheriff will receive the opposite result. If your target is observed by a Lookout, the Lookout will receive false information. If your target is being followed by a Detective, the Detective will receive false information.

Raditz (Consort):

Abilities: You may role-block someone at night, preventing them from taking a night action.

Pertinent rulings: Shares feedback messages with the Escort and any other role-blockers.

Paragus (Janitor):

Abilities: At night you may target a living player. If your target dies during the night then their last will and role will be cleaned, and (???) will appear in the graveyard next to their name. You will not be informed of their role, but you will have sole possession of their last will. Limited to two successful cleanings.

Pertinent rulings: Targeting a player during the night who does not end up dead counts as an unsuccessful cleaning and does not use up a charge.


Broly (Mafioso)

Abilities: You have no other abilities other than the ability to be sent out for the mafia kill.

Pertinent rulings: If forced to use your ability (by Witch manipulation, etc.) you will kill. If this is independent from the planned mafia kill you will still be forced to kill.


Nappa (Blackmailer):

Abilities: You may target someone at night and force them into silence, preventing them from speaking the next day.

Pertinent rulings: Blackmailed players will NOT be able to speak or vote.

King Kai (Jester):

You may choose to visit someone at night and 'annoy' them. You may leave a message with your target, by typing "-annoy" then your message

Pertinent rulings: If you are lynched, a person will die the next day

Bubbles (Executioner):

Abilities: You have no night-time abilities. You are immune at night. You will be provided with your targets name at the beginning of the game.

Pertinent rulings: Target is not always Town.

Dr. Brief (Amnesiac):

Abilities: At night you may 'remember' a role in the Graveyard. You will inherit the victory conditions and abilities of that role.

Pertinent rulings: Amnesiac can remember ANY role. It is announced publicly when an Amnesiac remembers a role (but the role itself is not announced).

Chi Chi (Survivor):

Abilities: You have four vests, which can each protect you from a single attack.

Pertinent rulings: If you choose to use a vest during the night, that vest is then used up whether it blocked an attack or not.

Bulma (Serial Killer):

Abilities: You may kill someone at night. You are immune at night.

Pertinent rulings: Kills roleblockers. A Jailor will still be able to jail a Serial Killer, but if the Jailor attempts to kill the Serial Killer the Serial Killer will kill the Jailor.


Piccolo (Sheriff):

Abilities: At night check to see if your target is suspicious or not. All evil neutrals and mafia roles will be suspicious. All benign or town roles will be Not-Suspicious

Yamcha (Citizen):

Abilities: you are pretty much useless... try and take a bullet I guess? And don't forget to vote!

Tien Shinhan (Detective):

Abilities: At night you may follow your target. If your target visited anyone that night, you will discover their target.

Pertinent rulings: You can pierce detection immunity

Goku (Mayor):

Abilities: You may PM the host to reveal yourself as the Mayor. Once you are revealed as the Mayor, your vote counts as five votes.

Pertinent rulings: Can be healed by a Doctor.

Krillin (Vigilante)

Abilities: At night you may shoot another player. You may not shoot anyone during the day. You have a limited capacity of three shots.

Pertinent rulings: You do not pierce night immunities.

Kami (Lookout):

Abilities: At night you may observe a player. You will receive a list of everyone who visited your target during the night.

Yajirobe (Bus Driver):

Abilities: At night you may choose two targets. Your targets will be swapped, redirecting all actions on each target to the other.

Pertinent rulings: Your targets will be notified that they have been bus driven. Bus Driver cannot target self first or second night.

Gohan (Doctor):

Abilities: At night you may heal one person. A heal will protect them from one attack (+1). A Doctor cannot target himself.

Pertinent rulings: Your target is not notified that he has been healed unless the heal successfully blocks an attack. You will only receive feedback from a successful heal.

Chiaotzu (Escort):

Abilities: At night you may choose to block a player, preventing them from taking a night action.

Pertinent rulings: Your target is informed that they have been blocked.


Master Roshi (Jailor):

Abilities: During the day you may select a target to jail. At night you may speak to your captive, anonymously. You may decide to execute the prisoner or release him. You have two executions.

Pertinent rulings: A prisoner is role-blocked and immune to most night actions. The jailed target MAY get sheriff checked, framed, blackmailed, or cleaned. A prisoner's execution cannot be prevented in any way and pierces night immunities. If a lynch has occurred during the day you can not jail that night.

Mr. Popo (Investigator):

Abilities: You may investigate a player at night and discover clues about their role.

Pertinent rulings: The 'clues' come in the form of investigation pairings


Launch (Bodyguard)

Abilities: At night you may choose to protect another player. If your target is attacked, you will prevent the attack and die in your target's place. You will also kill the attacker in a duel.

Pertinent rulings: Does pierce night immunity.

Oolong (Mason Leader):

You are limited to 3 recruits, can only be citizens. Masons do not take place of the Mason Leader. Will only be used in games that include citizens.

Serial Killer>Mafia>Town
Serial Killer - Must win alone
Mafia - Wins with Survivor, Executioner, and un-turned Amnesiac
Town - Wins with Survivor, Amnesiac, Executioner
Citizen (Town) - Wins ties with Mafia

Death Descriptions:

Will be Randomized, but you will get clues as to what killed them.

This will be my first one, hopefully it will be a good one.

This game will start on Day 1/No-Lynch. The days will be 24 hours long and the nights will be 24 hours long.

LeaD
August 27th, 2012, 06:21 PM
DBZ - awesome
Setup so far - not so much
I'd really like it to be more BOOOM and WOOSH and stuff. It could even be more specific theme wise, like, The Namek Saga. Or Android/Cell Saga. Even Buu Saga could find suitable roles. Heck even a Saiyan only could be good. (Mafia - Bardock, Vegeta, Nappa; Town - Goku, Gohan, Goten, Trunks(chibi), Pan, Vegetto, Gotenks, Gogeta ; Evil Neutral - Broly; Benign/Random neutral: Future Trunks/Saiyaman)
I'd really like the roles to be a bit more themefitting so certain sagas could benefit from adding DD or Actress, whereas i can see broly as a potential devourer too. Ghost, Armorsmith or Gunsmith could work aswell. (if we had oracle we could use uranai baba D: )
I'm extremely nitpicking when it comes to DB, but the current setup just seems so bland imho :(

Cryptonic
August 27th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Yea, what story is the RP following?

TimeTrx
August 27th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Yea, what story is the RP following?

The Saiyan Saga.

TimeTrx
August 27th, 2012, 06:51 PM
DBZ - awesome
Setup so far - not so much
I'd really like it to be more BOOOM and WOOSH and stuff. It could even be more specific theme wise, like, The Namek Saga. Or Android/Cell Saga. Even Buu Saga could find suitable roles. Heck even a Saiyan only could be good. (Mafia - Bardock, Vegeta, Nappa; Town - Goku, Gohan, Goten, Trunks(chibi), Pan, Vegetto, Gotenks, Gogeta ; Evil Neutral - Broly; Benign/Random neutral: Future Trunks/Saiyaman)
I'd really like the roles to be a bit more themefitting so certain sagas could benefit from adding DD or Actress, whereas i can see broly as a potential devourer too. Ghost, Armorsmith or Gunsmith could work aswell. (if we had oracle we could use uranai baba D: )
I'm extremely nitpicking when it comes to DB, but the current setup just seems so bland imho :(

Theme is going to be the Saiyan saga, I am currently pitching this as a S-FM as it is my first time. I already have the names picked out but I can't just keep it role specific it sounds cool but how will it work with both roles and names. For example: I can't have Goku as a character if we already know his role as mayor that would totally screw up the game. So, for right now the saiyan saga had the least characters of all the sagas and it fits with the overall theme of what I am trying to put in place.

BorkBot
August 28th, 2012, 07:38 AM
If you're going to give players unique RP names, beware that they can just claim the name. Counter claiming will be extremely difficult; you'll always know that only one can exist and the other has to be lying.

Also, FM generally doesn't use role categories like power/killing/core etc on the list, because it's yet another mechanic that makes counter claims difficult. It's mainly an SC2 Mafia thing to give the host control over what kind of roles will come out of a randomised setup, but in FM you as a host have full control and you can keep your true roles list hidden. You're free to use categories if you want, but if you do, please describe which roles belong to which category. Not everyone on these forums plays SC2 Mafia.

From your order of operations:

- Witch, Veteran, Coroner and Actress are listed, but aren't in the possible roles list (though there is a veteran rolecard)
- If there was a witch, witch can't be roleblocked and her target can't be bus driven, she can't be seen by a detective/lookout
- Bus driver can't be roleblocked. Bus driver can't switch escort/consort targets if they target an escort/consort, but if they target anyone else, he can

Is this intended?

Also, there's a mysterious Jailor at the end


Why is the blackmail announced publically?


Your investigation pairings list a lot of roles that aren't in your setup.


Please clean up so we know what's what :)

LeaD
August 28th, 2012, 07:54 AM
You could just make it
(Insert name here): Town Power
(Insert name here): Town Power
(Insert name here): Town Power
(Insert name here): Town Power
(Insert name here): Citizen
(Insert name here): Citizen
(Insert name here): Citizen
Town Power excludes citizens
Rules: claiming names is prohibited
OR make names anonymous by using anonymous accounts (Requires alot more work, probably not worth it in an SFM)

TimeTrx
August 28th, 2012, 04:04 PM
If you're going to give players unique RP names, beware that they can just claim the name. Counter claiming will be extremely difficult; you'll always know that only one can exist and the other has to be lying.


Can I setup anonymous account names with the characters I'm planning to use? I don't want for example: Goku to be mayor because hes Goku. Goku is just the name of one of the accounts.


Also, FM generally doesn't use role categories like power/killing/core etc on the list, because it's yet another mechanic that makes counter claims difficult. It's mainly an SC2 Mafia thing to give the host control over what kind of roles will come out of a randomised setup, but in FM you as a host have full control and you can keep your true roles list hidden. You're free to use categories if you want, but if you do, please describe which roles belong to which category. Not everyone on these forums plays SC2 Mafia.

Ok, i will change that.



From your order of operations:

- Witch, Veteran, Coroner and Actress are listed, but aren't in the possible roles list (though there is a veteran rolecard)
- If there was a witch, witch can't be roleblocked and her target can't be bus driven, she can't be seen by a detective/lookout
- Bus driver can't be roleblocked. Bus driver can't switch escort/consort targets if they target an escort/consort, but if they target anyone else, he can

Is this intended?

Fixing it. It was based off another setup and I thought I cleaned everything up.



Also, there's a mysterious Jailor at the end


Thankfully, hes not the Mysterious Stranger. I hear hes good at killing



Why is the blackmail announced publically?

Your investigation pairings list a lot of roles that aren't in your setup.

Fixing, again copy and paste issue.


Please clean up so we know what's what :)

K :)

TimeTrx
August 28th, 2012, 04:16 PM
Fixed.

BorkBot
August 28th, 2012, 04:29 PM
Sorry, no anonymous accounts for S-FM.

You could either associate players with RP names that they're not aware of, or you could give them RP names along with their role PM and put a rule in place that prohibits mentioning their RP name in day and jailor chat.

Still wondering if the blackmail target can vote freely (and answer questions in doing so).

PAINapple
August 28th, 2012, 04:32 PM
Looks fun dude!

BorkBot
August 28th, 2012, 04:33 PM
Wrong account? :p

PAINapple
August 28th, 2012, 04:35 PM
Wrong account? :p
Nah, Im not pulling a Dimwit.

Im going to be on this account waiting until[CENSORED].

TimeTrx
August 28th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Sorry, no anonymous accounts for S-FM.

You could either associate players with RP names that they're not aware of, or you could give them RP names along with their role PM and put a rule in place that prohibits mentioning their RP name in day and jailor chat.

Still wondering if the blackmail target can vote freely (and answer questions in doing so).

Anonymous account are where you set up alt account for players, correct? No blackmailer can't. Let me fix that.

BorkBot
August 28th, 2012, 07:50 PM
Yes, that's correct.

I'll approve this when FM14 is further along in progress. Need to keep the available signups limited for the time being.

You know how to set up the night chats and such, right?

TimeTrx
August 28th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Yes, that's correct.

I'll approve this when FM14 is further along in progress. Need to keep the available signups limited for the time being.

You know how to set up the night chats and such, right?

Yes, I am going to adjust the roles to reflect characters later on and add the no discussing who you are. No prob, as long as I get to host it, I'm fine with it. Hopefully people sign up for it.

Nights chats are set up by making an invisible thread located in an invisible sub-forum that only the group of interest can see and post in. Locking the night chat everything morning first thing. Same thing with Jailor and/or Masons.

BorkBot
August 29th, 2012, 07:31 AM
Ok. We usually use http://www.forumcow.com/ for the night chats in SFMs/MFMs. Fairly easy to use once you get the hang of it.

TimeTrx
August 30th, 2012, 05:43 PM
Ya I have used a phpbbs forum before. No sweat. Also a updated the rules a bit.

BorkBot
September 5th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Approved.

Blazer
September 5th, 2012, 05:37 PM
Approved.

you must bold it!

BorkBot
September 6th, 2012, 07:47 AM
APPROVED

Blazer
September 6th, 2012, 08:10 AM
APPROVED

Size 7 is overkill. Please refrain from excessive behavior.


Lololol jk. Tis nice :)

creedkingsx
September 6th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Size 7 is overkill. Please refrain from excessive behavior.


Lololol jk. Tis nice :)

underkill, imo.